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Hey Forum Members I just wanted to share an interesting event that happened to me last weekend...
I own a Trinity and it really does serve me well, but with all the hype and talk about the iPhone I wanted to give this device a try. I have read many things about its user interface and just how well it does the things it can do. So while going to Buffalo to do some shopping I picked up an iPhone.
I came home with my iPhone all excited and called up my buddy to come over to unlock and jailbreak it for me. I live in Canada and is using the Rogers network so iPhone must be unlocked to work. My buddy is an Apple/iPhone junkie who knows everything about it, plus I did not want to brick the device so I'd rather not do it myself. He came over at 9:00pm and it was done at 1:00am the next morning. The TTC (Public Transit) stopped running already on a Sunday night so I must drive my friends home and they live FAR!
A little background about myself (makes me sound like a loser but is relevant to the story):
In Toronto, Canada we have something that is called graduated licensing, I got my G2 license 5 years ago, but did not drive or had the chance to practice because I didn't have a car. When I got my car 3 years after I got my G2 I never drove because I was rusty and I preferred to get driven around instead.
It came to 1 month before my G2 expired which would mean that I would need to start from the beginning if I wanted my full license (my G). So I drove like crazy for the last month and did my highway test and surprisingly passed. So now I have my full license but my driving and sense of direction is really sh!t!!!
Back to the story:
So now I must drive my friends home and I didn't want to tell them the story above because I sound like such a loser. My wife is pregnant and she was sleeping so I can't wake her up. So I just grind my teeth and said I will drive them straight home.
Now with working iPhone on one hand and my Trinity on the other, I activated the GPS on my Trinity and had to pretend I am a good driver for the next 1 hour ride. At this point I was scared going on the highway by myself and not having a clue where the hell I was going (My friends don't drive and they had no idea how to get home from my place either). So i relied on the Trinity's GPS and just went for it. I managed to drive my friends home safely and I used the Trinity to reroute to go home. By the way, it was raining and very windy Sunday night. On my way home I thought to myself, wow what an ordeal and how ironic. My friend came over to get my iPhone to work so I can probably give up my Trinity, but in the end it was my Trinity that saved me!!! When I got home and this was about 2:30am I thought why did I even go through all this??? I sold my iPhone the next day!
My conclusion is that the iPhone is an amazing device and it does what it can do in an AMAZING way. The user interface is unmatched and the look and feel of the device is top notch. The web browsing is like no other mobile device I have ever used. But when you look beyond the esthetics, it really couldn't do much for me. I had to learn the hard way!!!
This story is just my peronal opinion on the iPhone due to experience and I just want to say I am NOT bashing the iPhone, but after this I will NEVER give up my Trinity/WM device for it.
Thanks for reading!
This makes me a think i maybe doing a mistake selling my XDA Atom for Iphone , i think i should keep both...
when you look at what the Iphone can do and then look at what our HTC phones can do it doesnt make sence for anyone on this forum to give up there HTC phone for an iphone. Heck it doesnt even make sence to purchase one.
Everything is subjective, but I have happily transitioned to using an iPhone over my collection of HTC devices. The key for me is the tweaking ability now avail on the iPhone. With the program ibrikr, you can add/download/delete files, ringtones and install 3rd party software.
While it is not true GPS, I use an application called Navizon on the iPhone and it is amazing how well it works. I do still bring my Trinity on some trips, but really there is nothing I "need" the HTC for. Don't get me wrong, I still love my Touch and Trinity, but am a daily iPhone user for the near future.
This is post that I wrote when I had some time to kill.... It is my in depth comparison of the Touch / Trinity vs. iPhone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1621952#post1621952
After looking at the presentation of IPhone 3G v3.0 and already have read the articles about the WM v6.5 and v7.0, a huge disappointment came over me.
You see I am a top shouter in my environment for the HTC phones which are all equipped with the WM OS's.
The greatest impression on me where some articles about guys(who seemed in my eyes a real priority on this, i am dutch so not quickly impressed by anything), who wrote all similar story's about the WM v6.5/7.0. Stating Microsoft is not at all doing anything to compete with the Google and APPLE OS's. There are just very few improvements and absolutely not at all impressive enough as the IPhone OS.
Reading some article they are looking for a lead developer for the new core for WM v7.0 are not honored and contradicting, like saying oke guys i know the current OS is ****ty so we need to start over, can anyone help us?
That is not the sort of message I as WM lover like to hear.
It seems that Apple is just about the only one who is really listening to the users and they are working their ass off getting all requested functionality integrated. APPLE have done more on the OS in 1 year then Microsoft did on all development of the WM versions.
I am working at an IT company where the IPhone is making a serious entry and I am working at support and people asking me for information getting the IPhone working with the company applications. and guess what, it is sooooooo much easier getting it setup then every other WM-device i have seen. And they seem to shrink in number at the company.
Now I am really in love with the HTC-devices, but i am slowly getting confused by the latest IPHONE OS.
I expect that Microsoft will loose this battle due to their arrogance and dragging all major mobile company's down with it. So expect another crisis in a year or 3 because now the smart phones are booming but people will come to their senses and they switch to IPhone after their subscriber to the providers has ended.
So please bring me to my senses and say I am totally wrong!!
yes and no
the problem is migrators. people whove had there nokias and stuff then want a better device. theyll run to iphone dueto the flashy marketing and support
bu winmo is more like an old pair of sneakers. sure theyre ugly aan dirty
but they do the job they were built to do. in my opinion as long as they do there job making it work i can do my job making it look pretty. coz id rather get ther in my old confy sneakers to get there than getting blisters from a new pair
i dont think any die hard winmo fan will move not really because at the end of the day we always go back to those old trainers
ive got a headache now
stop making me use my brain
i went from iphone to iphone 3g to windows mobile
i prefer my diamond to be honest even thou iphone can do alot more in ways the diamond does more in other ways
hands down id rather go with diamond or pro
@jayjay8585
Thanks for your response.
I hope you are familiar with ice skating?
They where skating years and years on the normal skates and the fastest times stayed longer and longer on the list.
Then someone decided to change the skate(klikskate, the iron comes half lose when lifting the skate) so significantly everybody said out loud that will not work, so they tried it a bit but went back to their old skates(sneakers).
Until someone who always was just under the top 10 decided, oke I reeeeeeealy going to try this and trained for 2 years on it.
So the next major tournament this person broke all long standing records.
Now everybody is using the new ice skates and up until now, records keep broken almost every new major tournament.
Shortly: I half agree with the sneaker story but it will not hold on the long term.
Microsoft just messed up to big, so if Bill wants to see another billion or 2 added on the Forbes list he has to get serious on this.
Windows Mobile 7 is not even beta yet so how can you be making comparisons with that OS? And while apple has added features to bring it on par with modern smartphones I personally am too used to the freedom of using a device of my own choosing with whatever carrier I choose and not being tied to using apple software and hardware products.
Here is what I have to say about the iPhone. The iPhone............
iPhone = Flashy Fashiontoy laden with DRM Crap no one here wants. Period.
Yup!
jadephyre said:
iPhone = Flashy Fashiontoy laden with DRM Crap no one here wants. Period.
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Quoted for the Mo-Fo'm truth!
How about the g1? It listens to its users the users and devs nake this phone better everydaay. I have had my for just over a week and don't know how I livd without it. I love how it works It can do all the iphone can and more. My main thing is it needs flash player other than that. also anyone seen or have any ideas on the new plam?
I personally wouldn't touch the G1 even if my life depended on it... Someone has to remove all the frickin' Google Crap from the OS (mandatory googlemail acc, anyone ?) before I'd be willing to shell out a few hundred bucks for one of these.
I'm not willing to let Google put a leash up my ass...
To the above guy. Besides making a mail account that's ur only leash. That beats being to to steve and bill in my opion. U can change the browser and well just about every u can get a lot of apps on line. U don't have to use the market that came on the phone everything is open.
the G1 I tested required a Googlemail Account.
Granted, I already have one and only Spam gets redirected there, but I don't want Google to know who i have as Contacts on my Sim and my Appointments no one has to read either.
Google on G1 = No Phone for me
Well whre are getting that they do that? And if they do why dosent everyone else? I figuer all cell phone data is almost public anyways
just wanted to add my 2 pence worth.
I've only had 2 WM devices so far, the XDA Exec and now the Touch Dual.
As much as I've enjoyed playing with these, I'm starting to really like the look of the iPhone. Everyone I speak to that has one say they love it because it does what is says on the lid. It works.
I'm fed up with having to reset my phone when it crashes on an incoming call, or re-syncing it to my BT car Hands free set...............
I've had to work hard and rely on the good devs here (thanks folks)to be able to get to a point where my phone is just about stable.
The iPhone is starting to look like a possability when my contract is up in six months
WM 6.5 will make it better as well as ROM Cookers. I have the Iphone 3G - in the box. Yes its flashy and its more fluid I like the control I have over my Touch HD. I like being able to flash it and try it out. I like the fact that I can change the BATTERY out on it. I like the ability to sync with Outlook, I like the fact that there are many many apps for the WM 6.1 and 6.5(when it becomes available).
And I like my screen resolution and Garmin XT NAV
Oh yeah.. Did I mention that I hate ITUNES and DRM?
jadephyre said:
the G1 I tested required a Googlemail Account.
Granted, I already have one and only Spam gets redirected there, but I don't want Google to know who i have as Contacts on my Sim and my Appointments no one has to read either.
Google on G1 = No Phone for me
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you do realize that you can turn off syncing, which means that you wont send any data to the google acct. so none of your contacts/appointments will leave your phone, and gmail wont sync. if you root your G1 you dont even have to use a google acct.
This is an article from BRIGHTHAND:
Cut, Copy, and Paste
Confirming the earlier rumors, iPhone 3.0 will -- finally -- allow iPhone users to cut-and-paste and copy-and-paste. Naturally, the process for selecting text will take advantage of this device's multi-touch screen. This feature will be available in Apple's own software and third-party apps.
And it extends to more than just text. Users will be able to copy images and paste them into an email.
MMS, A2DP, Etc.
iPhone 3.0 will also mark the arrival of other features long available in the iPhone's competitors, including MMS messaging, Stereo Bluetooth, device search, and voice memos.
In addition, landscape support is being added to more of the bundled applications.
Apple is also going to release a new SDK (software developer kit) for handling streaming audio and video, including HDTV streaming.
Still No Multitasking
Apple had some good news and bad news for users. The bad news is that it's still not allowing multitasking because running third-party applications in the background is more than the device can handle. Scott Forstall, Apple SVP iPhone Software, who handled much of today's presentation, said that an IM application running in the background reduced the iPhone's standby battery time by 80%.
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I don't think the iPhone is able to beat anybody yet, as you can see, the above upgrade or fix to the coming iPhone 3 are qualities that should have been there since it's first release. They are still playing catch-up to Windows Mobile.
The only thing I like about the iPhone is the speed. Other than that, nothing else. With more powerful processor coming out, this will definitely be a brighter future for WM.
mavrik64 said:
I'm fed up with having to reset my phone when it crashes on an incoming call, or re-syncing it to my BT car Hands free set...............
I've had to work hard and rely on the good devs here (thanks folks)to be able to get to a point where my phone is just about stable.
The iPhone is starting to look like a possability when my contract is up in six months
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Sorry to see you are having trouble, but for me, my setup is very stable. No crashes nor freezes, so I am happy with Windows Mobile. BT works flawlessly too. I believe stability is related to what applications you have installed. I have about 350 applications and games installed, you just need to try them one by one and see which one causes the problem. This is the proceedure I do each time I upgrade my device. By the way, I have an HTC Advantage X7510. I just use my HTC Universal as the test subject nowadays.
I'd like to thank those brave enough to say that the iPhone does in fact pose a huge problem to WM, and those brave enough to say that they're willing to move away. Another thing I'd like to say is that being tied to a carrier/network that you don't like is not actually an argument against the iPhone, rather the circumstances surrounding it. Let's keep this thread based around an SIM-unlocked iPhone for a change. Also, let's just look at the OS, and not the extras HTC/Samsung/SE has overlayed on top.
Now, let's face it, WM is losing appeal- fast. WM is dynamic and flexible- almost like an open-source OS, but the UI is outdated and still bears an uncanny resemblance to it's oldest predecessor almost 10 whole years ago. Also, it can get laggy, and crashes even on stock ROMs, so there's another bunch of disadvantages.
Not much left. Let's hope WM7 saves MS.
I agree 100% with cktlcmd.
Thanks for putting it exactly how I would,
so I don't have to think.
This is what I'm feeling so far.......... (my two cents)
I love my wimo (6700, 8525, tilt and now touch Pro) and at first I use to tell people that only way that iPhone is making a killing is because how they advertised the phone.
People with iPhones use to be like your phone looks and feels like a brick. I will tell them how the wimo can do all types of things, so they started coming back to me and showing how once they jail break the phone they can do about all most the same thing. I would laugh and say well you still can't get mms, teathering, or cut/paste......3.0 is coming out for the iPhone, now I feel like hiding from the ones I laughed at.
If Microsoft is reading......please help us out, because the reason I love the phones is because they can do wonders but now I'm starting to feel like an old school guy with and old phone not willing to give up.............We (I hope I can speak for all the wimo people) spend at alot of time and money on these phone and just want a little something back, beside a new phone......think about the inside the phone and help us out so we can stay and be the top dogs again.
In your opinion (keep it short please) what is the difference between win mobile and android and pros and cons please?
Thanks
George
Android pros:
Open source
Huge market proliferation (ensuring compatability and development)
Huge app market
Stable faster linux kernel
Winmobile pro:
More compatable with windows
Wifi router (until froyo)
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I have 2 Windows phones and 2 Android phones and I can't think of a single thing the Windows phones do better than the Android phones.
Well, when I got my phone at T mobile today (I was tired of att and verizon, long story..) I asked for an android phone and I get home and see it's a windows phone...?
Mind you, I'm not surprised considering they didn't even know what GSM is when I asked if t mobile was gsm.
I LIKE the fact that it acts as a hot spot so what is FROYO?
I also thing I'l like droid better so here's the question, do they make the HD2 for android and is it available for t mobile?
Also, the navigation on the windows hd2 I have seems totally retarded...
Yes, the droid (I had the 8183) was much better.
Does it mean I liked the 8183? Nope and whoever the idiot is that wrote the software that only lets you use a FRACTION of the big a$$ screen to display info, phone numbers, names and such should be shot, SLOWLY!
You guys have NO idea how many countless hours I've spent in frustration, trying to find a way to SEE things on the screen with my $hitty eyesight and all because some moron is too stupid to figure out that MAYBE they should start with making the BASICS work on the phone.
You know, kinda like the iPhone. It was great, EXCEPT at being a friggin' PHONE! Let's see, iPHONE, what part of phone didn't you understand?
Sadly enough, ALL these idiots make more money at what they do than I do
Thanks
George
guiri_too said:
In your opinion (keep it short please) what is the difference between win mobile and android and pros and cons please?
Thanks
George
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xda-developers > Android Development and Hacking > Android Apps and Games
FAIL.
rpimps said:
I have 2 Windows phones and 2 Android phones and I can't think of a single thing the Windows phones do better than the Android phones.
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Well, I loved MyPhone on Windows Mobile. And I just have my Android for 3 days, but I haven't found something as good and for free yet.
Next to that, I can't think of anything I missed yet. Even eBuddy managed to easily fulfill my needs of MSN/WLM. Even with offline messaging.
There are two things i don't like about android:
First, there isn't only one good videoplayer(ffmpeg is a must have!) EDIT: Rockplayer is a nice start, but the fps is ~100% lower than the ones i get with coreplayer
And i havent found something like Audiobooster.
Try both and take the OS which you prefer
Android Cons:
None
Windows Mobile Cons (based on my experience with 6.1 Buisness):
Too hard to install games and apps
Not enough games and apps
Not user friendly
Too slow response
Android pros:
huge application
Google serious to maintain the android development
Android Cons:
No Wifi proxy support
hard to copy paste beetwen app
Winmobile cons:
too late microsoft your windows mobile is dying. your development team is slow
Old win 6.5 kernel..
windows phone 7 is too late to release...your market app is not working...
all developer moving to another platform
No multitasking support for windows 7...thats shame
Search for rockbase player for videos. Funambol or mybackup pro for closest to myphone off the top of my head.
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there's a lot of things to look at but the best way to choose is this.
if you are running an app and it has issues or require a bit of memory, window will lock up and then you have to reset the phone.
with android you'll get a force close notification which you just ok it and keep using it with out having to reset.
Android FTW
Android:
Fast
User friendly
great multitasking
many apps and great games
works better on slow phones
user driven market
WM:
horrible performance, only WM phone with good performance is the hd2
bad multitasking, but happily arkswitch makes it easier
almost no 3d games, marketplace is not worth a ****
OK, As a windows Fanboy turned android here is the main thing Windows does better than android: Multimedia!!
Android is still new to the game and in my opinion hasn't really got a good video and music player. There are some ones that can pass but compared to Windows and iphone they are not that great. On the flip side I plan on developing my own music player which counts for the openness of android. WinMo is arguably just as open BUT with them going a different direction with WM7 I had to jump ship. As for Androids advantages......everything else is just as good if not better than windows (except how they manage the SD card)
Well, the few minutes I've spent with the windows platform already makes me hate it. Whoever did the software for the HD2 is totally retarded. I couldn't even get myself out of whatever app happened to come on last night and I was about ready to throw this big piece of $hit out the window.
I now know what Froyo is and if I'm not mistaken, it'll have a wifi proxy which I guess it to be is that it acts like a hot spot which should put a damper on some of the greedy phone companies (IF it is released on their phones) like ATT who charges you another 30 bucks extra for connecting to your laptop.
That to me is bull**** and greed and IS costing them customers.
Verizon is better with that but I hate their support AND I think their coverage in my area is worse. The support is TOTALLY useless and I left them once because of it and I will AGAIN leave them I think and yes, mainly because of it.
I'll try the t mobile service out for a week or so and if the coverage is good, I'll return this locked piece of $hit and get me one of the unlocked phones from NEgri Electronics. If anyone hasn't heard of them yet (which kinda would surprise me) here they are...
I mean, seriously, in order NOT to pay the full price at t mobile, I have to sign up for two years AND the phone is locked which means I can't use proggies like this one which I NEED! http://www.androlib.com/android.application.org-pbxes-fontsize-BiEA.aspx
For a buck fitty (not fifty, fitty, like fitty cents) I can get this proggy which could fix my problem but I can't do it on a locked phone. Well, they can ki$$ my ass then with all the restrictions. I'll get this one for example http://negrielectronics.com/touch-smartphone-unlocked-tmobile-2747.html , get me a monthly account instead and I can put anything I want on it. Now how the hell can I go wrong with that, AND, they're easier to sell should you want to get rid of them.
Put some of this stuff on it and some silicone case on it and you can sell it years later looking brand new which is what I did with my iPhone.
I'm going to wait for a week or so and decide if I like tmobile and if I do, I'll tell verizon where they can stick their phone.
Would you believe I had to make THREE attempts to get them to port my att number over and meanwhile, I'm paying ATT for the account. I even called and talked to VERIZON people to make sure it got done right and in BOTH cases, they screwed it up. I finally got it done the right IN The store, a WEEK after!
After all this crap AND a busted phone that was only two weeks old, I tried to get a free charging cable from one of the store manager, NOT a charger or the ac adapter thingie, just the stinkin' cable and he wouldn't even give me that. Now that is tacky and petty. Oh, the reason I wanted another cable was so I could keep one in the car cause that piece of $hit pre wouldn't hold a charge over 5-6 hours and let's not talk about TALKING time. This was a LITTLE talking and lots of stand by.
What a damn joke.
I like the pre platform and concept in general and I have several PDA's that are PALM but the PRE phone, they kinda dropped the ball on a little.
No on screen keyboard (now how hard is that to figure out), the actual keyboard should have been horizontal for size and the damn thing is a gas guzzler, AND, I don't see an option to keep the damn notifications from coming up and crowding your screen when you turn it on. Also, it's slow as $hit from when you click that you want the keypad till it finally opens up.
NO Predictive dialing and you can't get the beautiful HUGE clock to stay on top that I know of. Again, how hard is that to figure out? Does this take so long to program into the software? I mean, they almost went belly up. You'd think they had the TIME and STAFF to do things right. Sheesh!
Anyway, enough bitc*in'
George
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Again, how hard is that to figure out? Does this take so long to program into the software? I mean, they almost went belly up. You'd think they had the TIME and STAFF to do things right. Sheesh!
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That's not how business works. Any phone advertised on TV (like the Pre) is designed for general consumers (people who don't care about the things you're talking about). It would be a terrible business decision to spend more time and money incorporating things that 99% of their target market don't care about or don't even know they're missing. If you're posting on XDA you're probably a lot more tech savvy than the average consumer, thus phones marketed towards the average consumer won't have 100% of the features you request. I always like to buy phones that are rarer and not advertised, mainly because I like having stuff that other people don't have, but also because they usually end up being a cut above the rest of the phones on the market.
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If I were you guiri_too, and can afford it, I'd order the Nexus One unlocked and as soon as it arrives, root the thing, put Froyo on it (if I could find it) and take that winblows phone back to T-Mobile. I can't believe they gave you that after asking for an Android phone. That has to be one of the dumbest salesmen ever! Or if you want to stay with T-Mobile and happen to like Sense (Espresso Sense), pick up the the MyTouch Slide. It has a keyboard, MS Exchange support and is pretty snappy to boot (speaking of boot, it only takes about a minute from hitting the power button to making a call). If you need a more business-like phone, I would suggest the Sprint Evo 4G. It's the same size as the HD2, 4.3", but it's Android. The UI looks like the HD2 as well (Sense), but it's a lot quicker and more stable. A friend of mine picked this up after having the Sprint Hero, which he got after the TouchPro (winmo) and couldn't be happier.
As far as the original question, I can only give you an anecdote; when I got my G1, my wife had a Wing which she hated. After a few months of watching me play with my phone all the time, and her Wing being replaced twice, she bought hers and was instantly hooked. We have been android fans ever since. So the advantages of Android for me are awesome stability, openness and apps, of which you don't have to use the market for (unless you get an ATT android).
Let me try to address the replies in one window.
First as for being tech savvy, yeah, I guess I am and I've been around long enough to be picky, HOWEVER, my BASIC needs are a phone I can HEAR and SEE. How come Nextel have speakers that you can hear clear across the next state and this thing I got, the HD2 I can barely hear with the fans in the car running despite them telling me it was really loud...?
Sure, I want a lot of stuff but if you read through all my info, you'll see that some of the things i don't really care about like social networking, streaming video, mp3 player and much more. LARGE FONT! How the hell hard is that to figure out? I mean, for those here who program and considering it's even in very simple programs. IS IT THAT hard to have an option of making the font bigger?
To Heybob. Bob, the problem is that I can't try and see these phones live so to speak. ALL the phones at tmobile are dummies or at least the ones I'm interested in.
Second, to be quite honest and when I think about it, I am not sure if she did mention this one was windows but I DID tell her I prefered android. In any case, NOT knowing what GSM is or if tmobile was GSM is not something I can let slide, ESPECIALLY considering she was the manager...
Now, so far, my tmobile coverage has seemed good. Yes, the phone as in the UI is still totally retarded so the windows OS has got to go. More than likely when I return this, if I still like tmobile then, I'll get a phone from Negri that's unlocked and if I'm not mistaken, he HAS Froyo phones in stock. Hold, gonna call and check..yep, he's got Nexus One with Froyo ready to ship.
Tell'em George with the long wish list sent ya if you buy one. Not that I think I'll get any referrals but hey, it never hurts when it comes time to bug them about finding me the right phone.
Anyway, back to the phones. I do NOT like this windows UI so that one is out. I like that I have found a site with something like 80,000+ apps all in one place and although I'm not stingy, when you're TRYING apps and don't know if you'll like them or not, it helps if they're cheap or free. I got something on hte Pre I didn't like but hell ,I wasn't about to ask for a $1.50 refund.
Many of the windows apps were $15 or around there. I'm not paying it if I can't get a refund if I don't like the software and I AM picky with software too.
By the way, is there someone here that has a rooted android phone that wouldn't mind putting this font proggy on there (hell, I'll be happy to pay for it at only 2 bucks or something) and show me the different font size options? http://www.androlib.com/android.application.org-pbxes-fontsize-BiEA.aspx
I WAS going to do that but as you know, I didn't get a droid phone
I showed this dude on the androlib forum this proggy. He gets it, his wife likes it (he got it for her) and now he's too busy to show me some screen captures. Thanks a lot
George
I've owned 4 different winmo phones and I can say that android leaves those respond FOOLS in the dust.
Android is more compatible with exchange server than windows mobile solution or blackberry.
Work gets done faster and I smile a lot more now.
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Well, I just took a few pictures of the HD2 to show people what I'm facing to illustrate it a little better.
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Hello everyone,
I just lost my HTC Desire to my sister, since her Nokia 6630 lost its live just about a day ago.
She just grab my Desire and leaving my SIM-card behind. (Stupid is, she knows my all of my password and pin numbers on that phone...I guess she was spying on me for quite some time)...well...she did play the games inside my Desire...a LOT!!
I am really stupid!
Well...She talks more than I do on the phone...so...I guess I have to accept that..I am busy writing my master work at this moment...and I don't wanna have a fight with her ...not at his point of time...(I assume she knew that too).
The problem is, I don't have enough money to get a good smartphone which can match my "previous" Desire. Legend, Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab, etc. are way too expensive for me right now,
and HTC Wildfire can not meet my expectation.
Well...I can still make phone calls with my ..stupid Nokia 1800...It is juts...something big is obviously missing on that pile of plastic..
Now, I am thinking of getting an Archos 70 8GB Internet tablet, which will be there soon enough.
It will cost about the same price as Wildfire, but with more capabilities (at least according to the spesification).
So..I think...perhaps, I can use that along with my (stupid) Nokia 1800 Phone.
but, the thing is...I have never used anything from Archos before.
Can anyone post your experience using Archos previous Android tablets?
Is the company any good by the customer service?
Anything?
Pleaseeeeeee......
Hmmm...still no replies for days in this forum and several others, which I have posted...
Even my closest friends don't even have a single experience on Archos...
Perhaps I should rethink about getting a tablet PC from Archos.
Check out archosfans.com if you want to talk to people who are familiar with the brand. I had portable archos mp3/media players back before ipods became the standard, but I haven't used their products in quite a few years. The newest android tablets are interesting, especially since they're considerably less expensive than ipads and gtabs, but until I get a chance to hold one I'll refrain from any judgments.
Considering that the newer tablets coming out by Archos are Android, I would love to see xda development for them and eventually a section for Android tablets.
TS
Get a orange san francisco, 512mb ram, 800x480 oled screen, 2.1 pre loaded and a custom 2.2 rom available, also its unlockable for less than £5.
Archos's new Android tablet line is coming out as we speak. I just received word that mine was shipped today, so it should be here tomorrow ... I pre-ordered a 101 tablet.
I hope that xda development will come on this as it takes off (apparently there were too many pre-orders made that many sites shut down the possibility)
I am a first-time buyer of their products, so i can't comment on their customer service level .. and actually not on their product quality either.
but I'll be happy to report back once I get my hands on it tomorrow
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
aaa said:
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
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Dont forget to share your experience
Hmm...experience...LeeDroid you mean?
My impression until now :
Somehow faster than stock ROM, apps are installable to SDCard (most important), Desire proc become OC-able (not doing it), stable, slight improvement in battery live, still has Sense (third important), DSP manager become available (second important), performance gain for 3D games (fourth important) .
I like also the Desire HD rom (RCMixHD), but too bad that the camera is not working and I went back to LeeDroid.
I wanna try several other roms but I will play with LeeDroid for the time being first.
I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
xManMythLegend said:
I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
havnet played with it yet :/
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actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
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The archos doesn't support ad-hoc wifi networks, so just make sure if your device creates an "ad-hoc" network, then it can't connect
However bluetooth tether works (I still have a g1 and I'm bluetooth tethering to my A70)
I have an HTC EVO also and I got an Archos 10.1. I had a previous Archos MP3/Video player from way back. Can you tell me since my phone is not rooted is there anyway I can tether. Goling to Vegas in a couple weeks and room doesn't have wifi. They have free internet but no wifi. I need to tether with Archos off EVO and Vegas has 4G which I don't have yet. Thanks,
digibucc said:
well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
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I was told PDA Net didn't do Android to Android but I heard there is some free wireless tether for non rooted phones but I don't know if it will work Archos to EVO. I replied to a post above and didn't finish reading where someone kind of asked the same thing. Sorry!
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Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
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Hi
It has been a long time since my last post on here and proberly not a good one but to the pount
Sky have done it again any one seen the sky advert in uk for sky + app on ipad yet again they have skiped android and put there latist toys on apple products and we will have to wait 6 mounths or more for there contract with apple allows limited android release.
This apple con has long been a thorn in my side when some one said look what my iphone can do and i went back to watching my tv show on my xdaii or listning to my music i bet most of the old members on this site had those good old days.
Any way my point is i dont care if you use it but i was hoping for a call to arms so to speak like what happened with sky go and it started getting 1 star reviews can any one who has sky+ give it one star and say come on sky give me the toys
Thank you for your time keep up the good work