Was android 4.0 (ICS) a big mistake? - Android General

Just wondering why android 4.0 (ICS) had these notable bugs as a major release? like VPN connection issues, text corruption (jumbles up and looks like hieroglyphics) and maybe more (add any you know and I'll update this post)
I mean what did they do on Google before releasing a milestone android version?
P.s: I remember one of the most significant features announced at the press event on October 2011 in Hong Kong was 'unlock by face recognition'. But where is it now? I couldn't find it on any ICS AOSP ROM or Jelly Bean ROM installed on my phone. Was it only for galaxy nexus was shown at the Honh Kong event?

I have that feature on my EVO 3d
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ghandil said:
P.s: I remember one of the most significant features announced at the press event on October 2011 in Hong Kong was 'unlock by face recognition'. But where is it now? I couldn't find it on any ICS AOSP ROM or Jelly Bean ROM installed on my phone. Was it only for galaxy nexus was shown at the Honh Kong event?
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It could be faked by a photo and also it didn't work well for older devices where the front camera had a low resolution, hence most rom's removed it.

crazyfool_1 said:
It could be faked by a photo and also it didn't work well for older devices where the front camera had a low resolution, hence most rom's removed it.
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Does Google keep it on Jelly Bean yet? Or Google removed it on later ICS updates too itself?

All my devices which have been 5 have all been on Ice Cream Sandwich and I had no problems whatsoever by far the best version of Android before jelly bean I have facial recognition on all of them if it was removed it was because the custom ROM that you were on remove it it's a standard feature and Ice Cream Sandwich.
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@jchavez1993, @pezlomd
Thanks for sharing, Buddies

Jelly bean actually enhanced the face recognition feature. You have to blink to unlock the phone. Obviously you can't do that with a picture of your face.
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I suppose Face unlock has still to evolve a lot, i mean there could be numerous scenarios / lightning conditions etc. But like NIMBAH mentioned blink to unlock is a good addition

Never had problems in lighting
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ghandil said:
Just wondering why android 4.0 (ICS) had these notable bugs as a major release? like VPN connection issues, text corruption (jumbles up and looks like hieroglyphics) and maybe more (add any you know and I'll update this post)
I mean what did they do on Google before releasing a milestone android version?
P.s: I remember one of the most significant features announced at the press event on October 2011 in Hong Kong was 'unlock by face recognition'. But where is it now? I couldn't find it on any ICS AOSP ROM or Jelly Bean ROM installed on my phone. Was it only for galaxy nexus was shown at the Honh Kong event?
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Depends on what your phone is. Face recognition requries front camera mate.
Anyway, I believe the 4.x series is a massive success. It solves the defragmental issue, improves UI in terms of look and feels and smoothness significantly, while maintains Android's strength of openess and growth.
The VPN thing is minor, and it is ignorant to consider this as a Android's fiasco. Meanwhile, text corruption is caused by your phone's kernel, hence you can't blame it on Google. I sense that you use some legacy phone like Galaxy Y and have bad impression on ICS.

In my opinion Android 4.0 was the best move Google has made yet. Jellybean is nice and all, but ICS made the big changes. Fully HWA ui, deeper account integration with most services and just beautiful to work with. Android has never been this tweakable before. As far as bugs are concerned, I've never encountered any of the problems the OP names.

ICS is beautiful for me.
I'd compare it to Windows 7 whereas Gingerbread was like Vista to me.
Anyways, the launch of ICS really shows the true versatility and strength of Android. It's smoother, easier to use, and more minimalistic than any other version of Android out there. As for the facial recognition feature, it works perfectly fine on CM10 for me. I've used it on CM9 as well.
VPN is definitely an issue, but seeing as I don't use it, it didn't matter to me.
ICS isn't always perfectly functioning on older devices though. So i'd assume that you're running an older device with legacy hardware that just doesn't function properly with ICS (probably an issue porting code and software to the device). I remember trying ICS on my Dad's G2x and it was a nightmare! So I can understand where you're coming from.

hadobac said:
Depends on what your phone is. Face recognition requries front camera mate.
Anyway, I believe the 4.x series is a massive success. It solves the defragmental issue, improves UI in terms of look and feels and smoothness significantly, while maintains Android's strength of openess and growth.
The VPN thing is minor, and it is ignorant to consider this as a Android's fiasco. Meanwhile, text corruption is caused by your phone's kernel, hence you can't blame it on Google. I sense that you use some legacy phone like Galaxy Y and have bad impression on ICS.
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Thanks,
About text corruption I tried different ICS ROMs such AOSPX, IceColdSandwich ... And Of course my phone is Desire HD. What about that?
khoikn said:
ICS is beautiful for me.
I'd compare it to Windows 7 whereas Gingerbread was like Vista to me.
Anyways, the launch of ICS really shows the true versatility and strength of Android. It's smoother, easier to use, and more minimalistic than any other version of Android out there. As for the facial recognition feature, it works perfectly fine on CM10 for me. I've used it on CM9 as well.
VPN is definitely an issue, but seeing as I don't use it, it didn't matter to me.
ICS isn't always perfectly functioning on older devices though. So i'd assume that you're running an older device with legacy hardware that just doesn't function properly with ICS (probably an issue porting code and software to the device). I remember trying ICS on my Dad's G2x and it was a nightmare! So I can understand where you're coming from.
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Dammit why can't I just remember those days I was on gingerbread (2.3) and its functionality to compare with ICS as a big Change? Should I flash a 2.3 version again and stay 1week or more on it? Is it the only remained way to realize smoothness improvements?

ghandil said:
Thanks,
About text corruption I tried different ICS ROMs such AOSPX, IceColdSandwich ... And Of course my phone is Desire HD. What about that?
Dammit why can't I just remember those days I was on gingerbread (2.3) and its functionality to compare with ICS as a big Change? Should I flash a 2.3 version again and stay 1week or more on it? Is it the only remained way to realize smoothness improvements?
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Your main issue was that fact you were using a ported version of the OS with hacked up drivers and files. There will always be issues when you use these types of OS distros. I also used the same device as you but recently switched and let me tell you the desire HD doesn't do it justice. The devs do great work but there is only so much they can do without the proper files.
Batcom2

That's true zelendel, but as far as I know text corruption was as AOSP issue that was present in stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus too. Haven't seen it since JellyBean so I think it has been fixed in AOSP. Also, development for the DHD has come a long way since you left especially since the release of 3.0.xx kernel by Virtuous Team. The forum has really come back to life. The codefireX 4.2.1 ROM and its 3.0.xx KangBang kernel are pretty awesome, and the phone has never performed better.
Source -
http://code.google.com/p/aospx/issues/detail?id=23
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25393

Ics was great but too laggy on me! GB was much smoother than ics. So I switched to JB with cm10. Best from google yet! ( my opinion!)

zelendel said:
Your main issue was that fact you were using a ported version of the OS with hacked up drivers and files. There will always be issues when you use these types of OS distros. I also used the same device as you but recently switched and let me tell you the desire HD doesn't do it justice. The devs do great work but there is only so much they can do without the proper files.
Batcom2
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Oh I actually forgot about hacked Drivers and their impact on ported ROMs' functionality. Thanks
sashank said:
That's true zelendel, but as far as I know text corruption was as AOSP issue that was present in stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus too. Haven't seen it since JellyBean so I think it has been fixed in AOSP. Also, development for the DHD has come a long way since you left especially since the release of 3.0.xx kernel by Virtuous Team. The forum has really come back to life. The codefireX 4.2.1 ROM and its 3.0.xx KangBang kernel are pretty awesome, and the phone has never performed better.
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http://code.google.com/p/aospx/issues/detail?id=23
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25393
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It was interesting about text corruption.
I'm not an expert in Kernels so didn't get your point actually.
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Why are ICS roms so popular

Hey everyone,
This isn't a technical question is an opinion question. Why are ICS roms so popular when there are so many things like native video recording and hardware acceleration are missing (do to drivers). I see that development is moving quickly with ICS yet Gingerbread has slowed way down. CM7 is still going strong but roms based on stock releases are, practically, dead. I just wanted to see what the opinions are in terms of switching over to ICS as opposed to using a fully functional rom.
ICS is what everyone wants, and wishes for. CM7 is about as good as its going to get (besides ironing out the kinks like BT and little things) stock is at its finest pretty much. Cm9 ICS is exciting and very nice looking. AOKP's customization possibilities are awesome give the phone a whole new look that make friends jealous (specifically iPhone friends lol).
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I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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lovenokia said:
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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in what way, lol?
buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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I second this...latest and greatest but at the cost functionality...then they complain about things not working properly *sigh*
I'm using CM 7 and don't have any issues...I do flash kernels and am using faux's b5...pretty awesome...can't wait to try harshs CM 7 kernel
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Another GB CM7 user here. ICS is the latest & shiny toy, so everyone focuses on that. Almost all apps work on GB, and uses less resources. Plus since ICS & CM9 are more recent, there's more bugs to fix so the perceived "development" going on.
I do use ICS keyboard app & the ICS Roboto font, but don't like the low-contrast blue on black ICS color scheme.
buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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+1
Exactly my thoughts!
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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It has the support, but is it available for our phone? And what's the point without gpu drivers.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
Whyzor said:
Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
[email protected]
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Thanks for the interview link, it's great to have a brief inside "peek" of the person behind the scenes.
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Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
ics
google put a lot of work into making ics a lot more polished, obviously they can't make the design appeal to everybody so the only way you can really tell if you will like it better than gb is to try it, I recommend the hellfire sandwich rom, it is by far the most stable and complete rom, and we are looking at linaro in the next build which means that it is 100% faster than stock android
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urfate said:
Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
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hellfire sandwich pg 502, hfs already supports new bb
I use stock rooted with the new baseband and its extremely stable
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i too updated the baseband and love the new stock 2.3.4, but i also like running the latest cm7, everything just works (well except for BT right now LOL)
better battery life and video are the reasons i stay on GB, but i do love ICS and flash it all the time when someone releases a new version (Genesis and Eaglesblood are the ones i use)
in ICS i really like the chrome browser and task manager when you hold home. the rest is about the same but i get a little better battery with EB build2 and i just changed to HFS so hopefully it keeps the better battery.
there is also hardware support just not in the menu menu, flash and openGL are supported.

JB on 10.1” Tablets dosen‘t work like butter

After experiecing JB on my TF101,I felt sad that the Project Butter seems NOT to be working.I can't see anything runing at totally 60fps.Why the same system,the same CPU and the same resolution but the contrary experience?
we do not have the tegra 2 jb source. Also project butter is partially in the kernel which has not been fully ported yet afaik
also all the roms are on their first versions. they will be updated soon
You do realize these are very early test ROMs, right?
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But so many phone with early test ROM,even 2.6.36 kernel,work smoothly as iOS or WP……
I'm running the CM10 preview on my TF101 and It is a lot smoother then the Jellybean rom on my Nexus S 4g and this is just the beginning of Jellybean, I can't wait to see how much better it gets. - Just my opinion.
it is definitely improved experience to me.. better than ICS... I can't wait to see the performance, when ROM is finalized and stabilized.. currently pretty much usable.. compared to early versions of ICS few months ago
which rom are you using?
based on how the tweaks can improve performance, i just say wait till it gets stable version.
JB on the tf101 is everything I expected and more, certainly delayed my upgrade for a couple of months
Pointless topic every ROM is in alpha state and you're already complaining ? I've just tried cm10 for 2 days and its smooth even tough its just an alpha. So don't troll here.
This guy also posted 2 times in the cm10 thread about how slow the build is. He is just trollin I've reported the guy.
The only problem I can see that flash isn't allowed to get installed anymore
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The only problem I can see that flash isn't allowed to get installed anymore
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And how's that supposed to be a problem? <g>
Sarcasm aside, I agree about the OP being a troll or a totally clueless user: usually, getting a new version of AOSP up&running on a consumer device which isn't on the "golden list" takes a very, very long time - this time it took mere days to get JB running on the TF101 with minor nuisances (most of them caused by the infamous NVIDIA blobs and the byzantine way they interact with the kernel and the hardware).

[Q] MIUIv4 losing appeal?... Expectations for MIUIv5 [ALREADY]

Now currently on my XperiaS im using AOKP based on JB... and its EPIC.
Thing is i recently stopped using MIUI and i had been using that since late 2010 when it was based on android 2.3 and it bought a whole new lease of life to my beloved Motorola Milestone.
Now MIUIv4 has been a whole new ballgame, with many many bugs being left unresolved despite complaints, laggy, unresponsive interface that left my dualcore device feeling obsolete (even when using an overclock kernel @ 1.8ghz)
But already i am seeing comments here and there from admins themselves about MIUIv5 is in the process of being made, hence the neglect MIUIv4 has been going through recently... to me though it just sounds like an excuse.
Does anybody have any news on MIUIv5 so early in the game? (Most likely not, but it was worth a shot)
I was curious what peoples expecations are for the new ROM and what the devs should do differently if you are to continue using it and not go elsewhere like i did.
cdotj89 said:
Now currently on my XperiaS im using AOKP based on JB... and its EPIC.
Thing is i recently stopped using MIUI and i had been using that since late 2010 when it was based on android 2.3 and it bought a whole new lease of life to my beloved Motorola Milestone.
Now MIUIv4 has been a whole new ballgame, with my many bugs being left unresolved despite complaints, laggy, unresponsive interface that left my dualcore device feeling obsolete (even when using an overclock kernel @ 1.8ghz)
But already i am seeing comments here and there from admins themselves about MIUIv5 is in the process of being made, hence the neglect MIUIv4 has been going through recently... to me thought it just sounds like an excuse.
Does anybody have any news on MIUIv5 so early in the game? (Most likely not, but it was worth a shot)
I was curious what peoples expecations are for the new ROM and what the devs should do differently if you are to continue using it and not go elsewhere like i did.
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Maybe i'm not the best person to comment on this, but i own an Xperia Pro, a neglected device which has been steadily but not speedily gaining a very small library (or bookshelf) of custom roms. From the top of my head, two or three of these are based on Miui v4, and these are all dodgy and with bugs aplenty. Even then, i have stuck with Miui so far, simply because i prefer the experience to stock Sony.
I know that if miui v5 comes out before my phones (rapidly approaching) end of life and by some miracle gets ported to my phone, or if (infinitely more likely) i get a new phone and it's available on that, if there are dramatic changes to the ui i won't choose it over miui v4, because to me it's the easiest to use and most well made android ROM available (especially compared to cyanogenmod and aokp).
The above is all opinionated nonsense, feel free to ignore if it somehow offends/angers you
I agree that MIUI 4 has been largely underwhelming. I loved MIUI on my original Droid because of how snappy and responsive it made the phone. It seems that with every release, a handful of minor annoying bugs end up unresolved, and now I'm at the point where I don't even consider flashing it on any of my devices. I hope version 5 rectifies this, but I'm not going to even consider flashing it until I see proof that it's back on the right track. I realize that the devs can only do so much, and I do appreciate what they have been able to do with it thus far, but it really needs to get back to its roots of being the quickest alternative available.
FullXion said:
Maybe i'm not the best person to comment on this, but i own an Xperia Pro, a neglected device which has been steadily but not speedily gaining a very small library (or bookshelf) of custom roms. From the top of my head, two or three of these are based on Miui v4, and these are all dodgy and with bugs aplenty. Even then, i have stuck with Miui so far, simply because i prefer the experience to stock Sony.
I know that if miui v5 comes out before my phones (rapidly approaching) end of life and by some miracle gets ported to my phone, or if (infinitely more likely) i get a new phone and it's available on that, if there are dramatic changes to the ui i won't choose it over miui v4, because to me it's the easiest to use and most well made android ROM available (especially compared to cyanogenmod and aokp).
The above is all opinionated nonsense, feel free to ignore if it somehow offends/angers you
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nah of course thats your opinion... thats what i wanted, not just a fanboy argument that made no sense.
it is very frustrating to me that MIUI is very easy to use (iphone easy) in fact my mother if thinking of moving to android and if thats the case id have to install MIUI because android stock isn't the most user friendly.
What your MIUI thats buggy... is that based on android 2.3?... If so thats strange because thats the version id expect to be almost perfected on all GB devices by now.
I promise you though... (personal opinion not trolling on MIUI lol) ...if your next device is on MIUI based on ICS and not JB... leave it stock or put it in a stock based ROM for a snappier experince.
Card83 said:
I agree that MIUI 4 has been largely underwhelming. I loved MIUI on my original Droid because of how snappy and responsive it made the phone. It seems that with every release, a handful of minor annoying bugs end up unresolved, and now I'm at the point where I don't even consider flashing it on any of my devices. I hope version 5 rectifies this, but I'm not going to even consider flashing it until I see proof that it's back on the right track. I realize that the devs can only do so much, and I do appreciate what they have been able to do with it thus far, but it really needs to get back to its roots of being the quickest alternative available.
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I think you hit the nail on the head right there "get back to its roots" MIUI was about simplicity, beauty and speed... thats what made it what it was in the custom ROM world.
But for some reason when the ICS ROM came out it all changed... i mean recently people mentioned memory usage and unresponsive UI (which is true because i experienced it) ...rather than answering users queries just to acknowledge the issues, they add chinese apps that auto reinstall when remove (this issue may be resolved with some devices after complaints but not with the XperiaS) they add Dolby Surround EQ :/
Heres a list i compiled of what i personally think needs addressing...
http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...fecting-over-major-features-every-week.18750/
Sort it out MIUI!

[Q] Are you satisfied with your Android 4.2 experience?

Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
DJBhardwaj said:
Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
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Can you site an example on how we can do that? I've tried all of the currently available 4.2 ROMs and they just feel clunky compared to 4.1.2. Even the recent apps list appear faster and with less stutter in 4.1.2.
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Once we are done with solving all the bugs, we can work on patches to remove lags.
Probably because 4.2 is just a port.
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apatal said:
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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You are really unaware of what NS can handle.
My 2 years old LG Optimus One P500; an MDPI ARMv6 arch device which comes with froyo and can only be updated to GB runs on smooth JB.
NS is way far more capable than that and in the coming future we will prove that too. :victory:
apatal said:
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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I was happy with JellyShot 0.8 for couple days then with Vanilla 4.1.2 which I used since release, used the same kernel. I tried couple 4.2 for the NS, but everyone felt clunky until JellyShot, I also loved the quick toggles and MMS features.
But I feel you, since 4.1.1 Google images behaved very well and smoother then AOSP compiled stuff.
apatal said:
Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now.
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Same here. I tried greenblue's AOSP 4.2.1 and like the "new features", but I always return back to the stock 4.1.2 ROM. It feels more robust somehow, even with the same kernel.
I´m running on Rasbeanjelly 4.2.1 since it comes out and i´m very satisified with it. I expected nothing more of the Nexus S but i love to hear that there will possibly be improvements in future.
For the last couple of days I've been flashing my device with various roms. 4.2.1. mostly. Everytime I flashed a new rom which was supposed to be smooth fast and super nice it turned out it was slow, sluggish, choppy and not working as a smartphone should. Crt animation is ****ty among every 4.2. Rom i tried. It's delayed, slow and not in the right pace. Lockscreen does not work properly. Scrolling through the lockscreen is laggy. Quick settings are sometimes laggy. I just hate to say it but I think 4.2.1. is really not meant for the nexus s. I just returned to vanilla rom with minimum modifications (flohimself rom) and I love what I see. Everything is fast, fluent and working properly
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Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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I think we can :victory:
I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
thanks to all dev for 4.2.1 rom !!!
You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
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apatal said:
Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
Sent using the xda mobile app
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Unfortunately using actual AOSP ROMs will always be better, so everything based on 4.2 will always be less than 4.1.2. I am using the great 4.2.1 ROMs here and enjoying them but they are less than using actual AOSP ROMs.
A reality we have to accept since our beloved NS has been dropped by Google...
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You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
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I think that's why we're on a nexus device, to get the pure Google experience. The only thing the nexus s needs that's not stock it's backlight notifications, and the gnex solved it with the notification led. Let's just admit that this is an old phone, and the nexus 4 is probably where we should head towards. Probably won't find anything for such a great deal for a while. It'll last us as few years for sure.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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It wasn't intended as a dig. There are several people though that report 4.2 running fine. This would tend to indicate that there would be something specific to what a user does that would cause the phone to run in a way that made it unbearable. Typically that will be related to some specific application(s) causing an issue due to not being updated. Most problems I saw with 4.2 were very similar to what I saw when we got ics before many apps ever updated and some never did and I'd imagine there are still people using apps that haven't been updated since gb. Definitely 4.2 is nowhere near perfect on our phones though and is running very much like a port and they clearly lagged some stuff up.
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(GB 2.6) ( ICS 4.0.4) (JB 4.1.2) Which is better and why?

Just wanted to get your opinions.....
What Android version do you like on the Galaxy Blaze and why? (Battery life, speed, functionality stability ???)
I am ruining 4.1.2 CM 10 and everything seems pretty smooth. The SD CARD for me is a little bit of a pain but nothing I cant handle. Wondering how stock ICS rooted compares!
I can't speak for how CM10 is, but I can say that it's nice having no errors, reboots, crashes, or quirks of any kind on rooted stock. After stumbling across a thread describing how to get google now on ICS, the only reason I personally have to be envious of CM10 is the superior lock screen.
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I can't speak for how CM10 is, but I can say that it's nice having no errors, reboots, crashes, or quirks of any kind on rooted stock. After stumbling across a thread describing how to get google now on ICS, the only reason I personally have to be envious of CM10 is the superior lock screen.
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That and BLN...
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That and BLN...
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Hah!
Thanks for the comments...I am trying out the stock ICS on there now.
Interested in your feedback on how Google Now works with ics.
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Interested in your feedback on how Google Now works with ics.
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It works fairly well I think, the thing I like about it the most is when I have a calendar event with an address, it will automatically display travel information to get there at the appropriate time. The card shows up before I have to leave. Since google maps even supports public transit, this works with public transit as well, which I like. This saves me so much time it's not even funny!

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