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Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Have you tried a factory reset? Mine was running very smoothly on the OTA. I also wiped my phone before and after the update.
Honestly I don't find it that much buttery. In some app it even seems slower. But I'm running custom ROM with some restored apps.
Maybe with a total fresh start it will work better...
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Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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I had the same problem with the OTA. JellyBelly runs smooth though.
Seems a lot better than ICS 4.0.4 stock. Google now is slow to load but otherwise everything is sweet.
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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The search (response between pressing the search softkey and the search box came up, I need to press it again to show the keyboard) is a lot slower now thanks to Google Now, other stuffs are same for me.
nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Are you running OTA or some custom ROM? I tried a few different JB ROM's + kernels and wasn't very impressed. It was a very stuttery experience with lots of slowing downs. I guess i had too much junk laying around after so many flashes.
So i wiped everything, went back to stock image and got the OTA JB that way and rooted it. It's been running very smoothly ever since I wouldn't say it's a HUGE improvement over ICS..but maybe like 20% smoother. It's definitely not slower than ICS (i was running both stock ICS 4.04 and CM9 RC1 before. The only places i noticed the lack of buttery smoothness is when opening Google Now and the Camera app. The camera itself is fast and all, but the start up time is longer than i remember on ICS.
From my experience, it's actually "smoother" but not really faster than ICS.
Just went back to CM9 RC2 and I must say that it's much faster than any JB ROMs out there but just doesn't have buttery smooth animation.
I quite like JB. I don't use custom roms (I prefer stock with matr1x), and JB is nicer that ICS. Previously, recent apps was useless to me. It took forever to load. now it loads in an instant. also, I don't get ~10 seconds of lag after I install/uninstall an app, faster to boot, faster to finish loading apps after booting and the ui is much nicer. Ofc, it does stutter from time to time, but it's negligible, as far as I'm concerned. Project Butter is really doing stuff right.
Ofc, it's not as smooth and fast as on the gnex, but that's to be expected. The hw is not as good. But it does a pretty good job. I really wish google would upgrade the kernel and make it use all the ram available...don't see why they don't use it all...
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The search (response between pressing the search softkey and the search box came up, I need to press it again to show the keyboard) is a lot slower now thanks to Google Now, other stuffs are same for me.
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Instead of pressing the search soft key just press the Google logo on the Google bar... that will bring up search faster
mine seems good
I understand your feelings, but JB on nexus s is better than ICS, maybe not faster but definitely smoother. JB does give a nicer feel to the whole phone experience.
If you're on custom rom, try the stock one Afresh. I flashed stock Ics then got JB ota. I have also used Stevens JB and oodies. But after a fresh install, the stock one seems the best. However, I'm waiting for CM10 as CM9 is definitely better than stock ICS. I'm expecting the same from CM10.
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I am asking myself the same question as the op. When I got my nexus s about a year ago it replaced a horribly slow nokia n86. The new UI felt fast. With time I got used to the speed of the UI and was generally quite happy with the performance.
Then came ICS and I began to wonder. Sometimes apps took a few secons to open a certain menu, sometimes the same menu was opened in half a second. Now with JB i get the impression that these inconsistent lags are appearing even more often. A typical usecase for me:
Listening to music via BT headset -> press power -> unlock screen -> select (standard) music app -> search for a specific song.
Sometimes this works as expected with <0.5s between steps, sometimes unlocking or opening the music app takes >3 seconds.
I should note that my system is completely stock and was never unlocked or rooted. I did the OTA to ICS and now to JB as intended by google. I never whiped any cache nor did I ever reinstall. When I have the time I may try that just to see if it makes any difference. For the moment though, I am left with the impression that 512mb ram and a single core CPU are not enough for a 2012 OS.
I'm finding a big improvement over ICS. I can't say I've found anything that doesn't work at least as good as ICS and a lot of stuff works better for me. The smoothness has really improved my 'user experience'.
That being said the app developers need to play catch up and get their stuff optimized for JB.
Can't wait to try the amazing custom JB ROMs that are going to be rolling out soon as well.
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Same here, I notice quite a few stutters, and I believe more than I had on ICS.
Maybe I'll try to flash stock Google ICS, and then do the official Google OTA update. The current ROM I'm using is this one, but maybe that is really not 100% the same as the Google OTA version?
Also, I'm truly disappointed at the fact that I can't use my voice on Google Now without having the whole cell phone in English. If I don't have the menus in English, all it does is Google searches... Basically seems like anyone that doesn't speak English natively is alienated.
Hopefully chainfire updates chainfire 3d opengl driver to work with jb .
Made ICS significantly smooth should do same with JB
Currently using CM10 and it works perfectly. I have not seen any lag whatsoever so i am pretty happy with it. I used the stock OTA but it was a major battery drain. That's really all I have seen that is negative.
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Can try to disable Force GPU rendering in Developer options to solve shutters.
On my i9023 JB, the graphic is slower but my battery life has improve than on ICS. Dont know it is because of JB or I reset the batt setting b4 upgrade to JB.
I really like TouchWiz on GS3 but since we have no idea when VZ is going to approve the JB version of it (hopefully soon, but who knows), I like to know which current Rom you guys think is the best.
Of course this is very subjective, but everything is on the table.
I'm looking for answers along the lines of:
I prefer rom-X
Pros: its fast, unbloated and stable
Cons: 3G/4G handoff is hit or miss, camera app is poor.
Something along those lines would be great.
Thanks in advance
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I really like TouchWiz on GS3 but since we have no idea when VZ is going to approve the JB version of it (hopefully soon, but who knows), I like to know which current Rom you guys think is the best.
Of course this is very subjective, but everything is on the table.
I'm looking for answers along the lines of:
I prefer rom-X
Pros: its fast, unbloated and stable
Cons: 3G/4G handoff is hit or miss, camera app is poor.
Something along those lines would be great.
Thanks in advance
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Flash each and try it yourself. JB ROMs seem to have random issues that some people experience. Nandroid your current setup and give a few a shot. It's the best way to find out what works for you, and not for others.
Personally I like clean rom the best.
Everything works on the 2.5 version. Extremely stable, great battery life.
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Flash each and try it yourself. JB ROMs seem to have random issues that some people experience. Nandroid your current setup and give a few a shot. It's the best way to find out what works for you, and not for others.
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Of course I'm already doing that, I'm looking at JellyWiz now. However it can take days to put a rom through its paces
I just wanted to get some opinions from others. For example I might only talk on my phone once or twice a month(I mostly use sms). I wouldn't want to leave town, decide to make a phone call and find out that the 9 button on the dialer doesn't work. Conversely, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want to use voice search (S-voice, Siri, whatever). If that happens to be broken in a specific rom I couldn't care less.
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Of course I'm already doing that, I'm looking at JellyWiz now. However it can take days to put a rom through its paces
I just wanted to get some opinions from others. For example I might only talk on my phone once or twice a month(I mostly use sms). I wouldn't want to leave town, decide to make a phone call and find out that the 9 button on the dialer doesn't work. Conversely, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would want to use voice search (S-voice, Siri, whatever). If that happens to be broken in a specific rom I couldn't care less.
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I agree with you. However, not everyone is experiencing the same issues as everyone else. You've got to see what debilitating issues your phone has
Jellywiz is definitely top notch. Has all the amenities that I wanted in a jb touchwiz rom. Coming from a galaxy nexus, its as close to perfection as I could get. But like its been said, try them out for yourself
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Jellywiz is the best in my opinion. It's super fast and stable, I'd use it on a daily basis but I'm not a fan of TouchWiz.
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Personally I like clean rom the best.
Everything works on the 2.5 version. Extremely stable, great battery life.
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Cleanrom is an ICS touchwiz rom. It should be very stable.
Jellybean is being built without source, Jellywiz has been running great. Minor flaws but they vary from person to person, phone to phone. The best way is to backup and give them a try!! Your the only one that can decide what's stable enough for you.
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Personally I like clean rom the best.
Everything works on the 2.5 version. Extremely stable, great battery life.
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To bad that aint a jelly bean rom. Scott hasnt developed a jelly bean rom yet. Clean Rom 2.5 is ICS
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
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Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
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Can you site an example on how we can do that? I've tried all of the currently available 4.2 ROMs and they just feel clunky compared to 4.1.2. Even the recent apps list appear faster and with less stutter in 4.1.2.
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Once we are done with solving all the bugs, we can work on patches to remove lags.
Probably because 4.2 is just a port.
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Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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You are really unaware of what NS can handle.
My 2 years old LG Optimus One P500; an MDPI ARMv6 arch device which comes with froyo and can only be updated to GB runs on smooth JB.
NS is way far more capable than that and in the coming future we will prove that too. :victory:
apatal said:
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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I was happy with JellyShot 0.8 for couple days then with Vanilla 4.1.2 which I used since release, used the same kernel. I tried couple 4.2 for the NS, but everyone felt clunky until JellyShot, I also loved the quick toggles and MMS features.
But I feel you, since 4.1.1 Google images behaved very well and smoother then AOSP compiled stuff.
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Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now.
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Same here. I tried greenblue's AOSP 4.2.1 and like the "new features", but I always return back to the stock 4.1.2 ROM. It feels more robust somehow, even with the same kernel.
I´m running on Rasbeanjelly 4.2.1 since it comes out and i´m very satisified with it. I expected nothing more of the Nexus S but i love to hear that there will possibly be improvements in future.
For the last couple of days I've been flashing my device with various roms. 4.2.1. mostly. Everytime I flashed a new rom which was supposed to be smooth fast and super nice it turned out it was slow, sluggish, choppy and not working as a smartphone should. Crt animation is ****ty among every 4.2. Rom i tried. It's delayed, slow and not in the right pace. Lockscreen does not work properly. Scrolling through the lockscreen is laggy. Quick settings are sometimes laggy. I just hate to say it but I think 4.2.1. is really not meant for the nexus s. I just returned to vanilla rom with minimum modifications (flohimself rom) and I love what I see. Everything is fast, fluent and working properly
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Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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I think we can :victory:
I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
thanks to all dev for 4.2.1 rom !!!
You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
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apatal said:
Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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Unfortunately using actual AOSP ROMs will always be better, so everything based on 4.2 will always be less than 4.1.2. I am using the great 4.2.1 ROMs here and enjoying them but they are less than using actual AOSP ROMs.
A reality we have to accept since our beloved NS has been dropped by Google...
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You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
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I think that's why we're on a nexus device, to get the pure Google experience. The only thing the nexus s needs that's not stock it's backlight notifications, and the gnex solved it with the notification led. Let's just admit that this is an old phone, and the nexus 4 is probably where we should head towards. Probably won't find anything for such a great deal for a while. It'll last us as few years for sure.
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apatal said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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It wasn't intended as a dig. There are several people though that report 4.2 running fine. This would tend to indicate that there would be something specific to what a user does that would cause the phone to run in a way that made it unbearable. Typically that will be related to some specific application(s) causing an issue due to not being updated. Most problems I saw with 4.2 were very similar to what I saw when we got ics before many apps ever updated and some never did and I'd imagine there are still people using apps that haven't been updated since gb. Definitely 4.2 is nowhere near perfect on our phones though and is running very much like a port and they clearly lagged some stuff up.
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As the title says, what's the best rom for the MT4GS? I've been playing around with a lot of roms, but don't seem to really like them. The fact that most roms are all over the place instead of a list also makes it hard to know how many roms there are for the phone.
Anyways, in your opinion, what's the best rom for this phone and why?
Go look in Weekends posts - he's got a huge list of ROMs,sorted by developer, with download links. Also other posts with lots of other useful stuff. As for my preference, I've been running CM9.1 r8 for a couple of months now and it's been fast, reliable with good battery life. Just trying Kornyone's Dec 22 CM10 over the Christmas break. Going well so far!
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As the title says, what's the best rom for the MT4GS? I've been playing around with a lot of roms, but don't seem to really like them. The fact that most roms are all over the place instead of a list also makes it hard to know how many roms there are for the phone.
Anyways, in your opinion, what's the best rom for this phone and why?
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That is a very subjective thing. What is best for one person may not have features or stability in areas that another person requires. For me, to have everything on the phone work as it is supposed to work, with no weirdness or arcane voodoo incantations necessary to perform a task, requires a stock-based ROM. To date, no ROM other than a stock-based ROM can get everything on the phone to work as it was designed. Some come very close, but there are always little quibbles (the main one being the camera functions). I run Miktouch 0.7, which is based on the last HTC ROM, 1.63.531.2.
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That is a very subjective thing. What is best for one person may not have features or stability in areas that another person requires. For me, to have everything on the phone work as it is supposed to work, with no weirdness or arcane voodoo incantations necessary to perform a task, requires a stock-based ROM. To date, no ROM other than a stock-based ROM can get everything on the phone to work as it was designed. Some come very close, but there are always little quibbles (the main one being the camera functions). I run Miktouch 0.7, which is based on the last HTC ROM, 1.63.531.2.
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Hence the thread title starts with the word "OPINION."
Anyway, I'm definitely a cm10 fan now. Its very stable given the condition this phone was left to us by HTC and its more than I ever hoped for. AOKP JB is also quite solid, but for some reason the notification toggles are just so blah as compared to CM toggles (even in the ICS builds of both ROMs) that I can't get myself to use that rom actively. I thought since AOKP has more tweaks I'd like it but I found that it is unnecessary for me personally.
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The new alpha 3 CM10 is definitely the best AOSP rom I've encountered so far for quite some time now. Very few things left that are broken, and I wouldn't consider any of them to be deal breakers. Battery life is very good too, and my God JB is smooth. I didn't think the difference would be so drastic between ICS and JB, but it is. You'll notice it through any transitions and apps opening and closing. It's not as zippy as ICS though. I'd say about 80-90% as fast.
Now that someone figured out the solution to the FC'ing Gallery, I'm now running the Bliss ICS 3.32 ROM from sun_dream. It is a Sense 3.6 ICS ROM that is very smooth, fast, and has excellent battery life as well as killer audio (using Beats and XLoud). From my experience, battery usage is nearly as good as the Miktouch ROM and way better than the CM ROMs. When I was originally using this, the gallery would constantly FC. I just couldn't deal with that. But that has been solved so now giving it another go.
I am not familiar with the 4g slide ROMS. My wife has an unrooted one that I would like to root. it has quirky issues that I would hope to get rid of and most of all gain better battery life. I noticed that there are camera issues. I don't totally understand what the 1080 video issue is but would like a functioning camera and video camera. Basically I am looking to be pointed at the more functional roms out there that will give her better than stock battery life. I have found virtuous being very good in the past and wonder if inquisition is a good bet. Any input would be great. thank you
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I am not familiar with the 4g slide ROMS. My wife has an unrooted one that I would like to root. it has quirky issues that I would hope to get rid of and most of all gain better battery life. I noticed that there are camera issues. I don't totally understand what the 1080 video issue is but would like a functioning camera and video camera. Basically I am looking to be pointed at the more functional roms out there that will give her better than stock battery life. I have found virtuous being very good in the past and wonder if inquisition is a good bet. Any input would be great. thank you
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If battery life is your primary goal, and fully-functional next, then Miktouch 0.7 is what you seek. Alternately, the Bliss 3.32 ICS ROM would work, as well, though it does not do 1080P video recording. 720P works, though. The only ROMs doing 1080P video recording are stock-based like Miktouch. I'm really enjoying this Bliss ROM since it is ICS with Sense 3.6. Very smooth.
MikMik ROMs were always the most stable, in my opinion.
For ICS, Virtuous was nice enough and I heard that Bliss was just a better Virtuous, but JB ROMs, in particular, JellyBAM has been even better than any ICS ROM I've run on this device...
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If battery life is your primary goal, and fully-functional next, then Miktouch 0.7 is what you seek. Alternately, the Bliss 3.32 ICS ROM would work, as well, though it does not do 1080P video recording. 720P works, though. The only ROMs doing 1080P video recording are stock-based like Miktouch. I'm really enjoying this Bliss ROM since it is ICS with Sense 3.6. Very smooth.
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MikMik ROMs were always the most stable, in my opinion.
For ICS, Virtuous was nice enough and I heard that Bliss was just a better Virtuous, but JB ROMs, in particular, JellyBAM has been even better than any ICS ROM I've run on this device...
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Thanks Fuzi, I figured that from your other posts. And thank you rory for your insight on Bliss.
I rooted and s-off her phone last night and flashed JellyBAM. Wire trick was fun, never had to do that before. I will see how this does with apex launcher and maybe try two of the others you guys suggested, over the weekend. Thanks again for the insight.
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MikMik ROMs were always the most stable, in my opinion.
For ICS, Virtuous was nice enough and I heard that Bliss was just a better Virtuous, but JB ROMs, in particular, JellyBAM has been even better than any ICS ROM I've run on this device...
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I love the look and smoothness of the JB ROMs, but the keyboard issues and other little quirks keep me from running them full-time.
Fuzi0719 said:
I love the look and smoothness of the JB ROMs, but the keyboard issues and other little quirks keep me from running them full-time.
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Have you tried JellyBAM? I was having issues with the keyboard in PACman v17 and v18.
But so far (about 18 hours now) I'm very happy with the latest JB rom.
Fuzi0719 said:
I love the look and smoothness of the JB ROMs, but the keyboard issues and other little quirks keep me from running them full-time.
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What quirks?
rorytmeadows said:
What quirks?
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You ask that seriously? Are you really trying to say there are no issues with the JB ROMs?
Fuzi0719 said:
You ask that seriously? Are you really trying to say there are no issues with the JB ROMs?
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It's possible. I just might not have come across them yet. The only problems I've experienced are the virtual keyboard popping up when I click again in a text box (easily solved with the back buttons) and the FCing when attempting to add funny effects to video in Camera JB+. I've heard a bit about the keyboard CAPS and ALT lights, but those are pointless anyway. Everything else I've done has been smooth as butter. What else is there?
Edit: I guess the 1080 camera could be one too, but I'm over that and coming from months on ICS.
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rorytmeadows said:
It's possible. I just might not have come across them yet. The only problems I've experienced are the virtual keyboard popping up when I click again in a text box (easily solved with the back buttons) and the FCing when attempting to add funny effects to video in Camera JB+. I've heard a bit about the keyboard CAPS and ALT lights, but those are pointless anyway. Everything else I've done has been smooth as butter. What else is there?
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Oh, things like virtual keyboards not working except in native apps, qwerty keyboard keys not working, LEDs not working, wifi not stable, camera FC'ing, camera button not working, battery life is terrible... Nothing major, really. LOL :laugh:
Fuzi0719 said:
Oh, things like virtual keyboards not working except in native apps, qwerty keyboard keys not working, LEDs not working, wifi not stable, camera FC'ing, camera button not working, battery life is terrible... Nothing major, really. LOL :laugh:
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Oh I didn't notice the first one, mine has been great. My www and com buttons don't work, but never used those so I didn't really notice (these weren't working on ICS). My notification light works, wifi fine, camera fine (except issue I mentioned above), battery life is unnoticeable. I assume you reflashed, right?
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rorytmeadows said:
Oh I didn't notice the first one, mine has been great. My www and com buttons don't work, but never used those so I didn't really notice (these weren't working on ICS). My notification light works, wifi fine, camera fine (except issue I mentioned above), battery life is unnoticeable. I assume you reflashed, right?
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I read the postings in the DEV section.
Fuzi0719 said:
I read the postings in the DEV section.
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I can't believe I'm saying this since Strapped was saying this very same thing to me, but you never know those particulars until you try it on your own device. The only sure bets are the Not Working pieces mentioned in OP. I love this ROM so much better than the Virtuous ICS ROM, but if you're sticking point is the camera, then of course MikTouch is the ROM of choice.
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Fuzi0719 said:
Oh, things like virtual keyboards not working except in native apps, qwerty keyboard keys not working, LEDs not working, wifi not stable, camera FC'ing, camera button not working, battery life is terrible... Nothing major, really. LOL :laugh:
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"Oh, things like virtual keyboards not working except in native apps" what does this mean?
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
Wipe dalvik, wipe cache then flash Gapps. That's fixed it in several instances.
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Whoareyou said:
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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strapped365 said:
Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
greowulf said:
Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
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PACman and JellyBAM have the same base and kernel so you will have the same issues connecting to work email.
I've seen other users post this about the camera flash crashing things, but I was never able to recreate it. So I just summed it up to an improper wipe/flash. No one has offered any kind of logs either to go along with said crashes, but that's not saying it will help because again we can't recreate these issues during testing.
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sheybklyn said:
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
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MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Inaccurate exaggeration is nobody's friend. It's a nice ROM, sure, but saying it has less issues than stock? You just lost any further credibility.
Happens to be my opinion based on my own personal experience however. And will remain so.
I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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But when I read reviews of a ROM, maybe I'm wanting to try it but trying to determine what things other people are encountering. Someone who says, "This ROM is perfect! Everything works!" but then I find out that, no, everything doesn't work and even they later admit that "some things aren't working but I can overlook that", well, that totally invalidates the entire thread. How am I to trust anything that person writes about anything else? Yes, we have subjective opinions about ROMs, but it does nobody any favor to exaggerate the abilities of a ROM. If you tell me a ROM is perfect and "better than stock", then I have some extra high expectations.
I understand completely. But there is more to a declaration of perfection than the statement itself. It would depend on who makes it and their knowledge of different ROMs but to me it just means it's damn close. I usually find out the details when I run it myself. That's when I'm reminded that nothing is perfect. Even the original developers don't distribute perfection and there is a HUGE well paid team of them.
I can appreciate anyone's expectations of a shared original ROM or a port to be one of perfection but that usually means the person with those expectations just doesn't realize all that's involved. People have to remember that this is more a personally fulfilling "hobby" than their vocation.
My biggest frustration is people wanting something that works 100%. Compared to what? Stock? Half the time the "Stock" ROMs have their own issues. That's why we root and ROM, to improve the experience over Stock.
What features do you want? What's your opinion of 100%? Sense? AOSP?
Hell, even the title of the thread isn't 100% accurate. There isn't an official ICS ROM, so there can't be a debloated version. And the word "Best" implies that there are at least 2 ICS Roms that work 100%....
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(Crap, I obviously need more sleep over the weekends....)
Weekends are too short ya know.
Fuzi0719 said:
MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms. there is a workaround for tethering involving barnacle and open garden. so that leaves 1080p recording
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms.
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News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
WangChung81 said:
News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
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Did you flash the wifi calling patch and push gan optimizer.apk to system apps?
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