[Q] MIUIv4 losing appeal?... Expectations for MIUIv5 [ALREADY] - General Questions and Answers

Now currently on my XperiaS im using AOKP based on JB... and its EPIC.
Thing is i recently stopped using MIUI and i had been using that since late 2010 when it was based on android 2.3 and it bought a whole new lease of life to my beloved Motorola Milestone.
Now MIUIv4 has been a whole new ballgame, with many many bugs being left unresolved despite complaints, laggy, unresponsive interface that left my dualcore device feeling obsolete (even when using an overclock kernel @ 1.8ghz)
But already i am seeing comments here and there from admins themselves about MIUIv5 is in the process of being made, hence the neglect MIUIv4 has been going through recently... to me though it just sounds like an excuse.
Does anybody have any news on MIUIv5 so early in the game? (Most likely not, but it was worth a shot)
I was curious what peoples expecations are for the new ROM and what the devs should do differently if you are to continue using it and not go elsewhere like i did.

cdotj89 said:
Now currently on my XperiaS im using AOKP based on JB... and its EPIC.
Thing is i recently stopped using MIUI and i had been using that since late 2010 when it was based on android 2.3 and it bought a whole new lease of life to my beloved Motorola Milestone.
Now MIUIv4 has been a whole new ballgame, with my many bugs being left unresolved despite complaints, laggy, unresponsive interface that left my dualcore device feeling obsolete (even when using an overclock kernel @ 1.8ghz)
But already i am seeing comments here and there from admins themselves about MIUIv5 is in the process of being made, hence the neglect MIUIv4 has been going through recently... to me thought it just sounds like an excuse.
Does anybody have any news on MIUIv5 so early in the game? (Most likely not, but it was worth a shot)
I was curious what peoples expecations are for the new ROM and what the devs should do differently if you are to continue using it and not go elsewhere like i did.
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Maybe i'm not the best person to comment on this, but i own an Xperia Pro, a neglected device which has been steadily but not speedily gaining a very small library (or bookshelf) of custom roms. From the top of my head, two or three of these are based on Miui v4, and these are all dodgy and with bugs aplenty. Even then, i have stuck with Miui so far, simply because i prefer the experience to stock Sony.
I know that if miui v5 comes out before my phones (rapidly approaching) end of life and by some miracle gets ported to my phone, or if (infinitely more likely) i get a new phone and it's available on that, if there are dramatic changes to the ui i won't choose it over miui v4, because to me it's the easiest to use and most well made android ROM available (especially compared to cyanogenmod and aokp).
The above is all opinionated nonsense, feel free to ignore if it somehow offends/angers you

I agree that MIUI 4 has been largely underwhelming. I loved MIUI on my original Droid because of how snappy and responsive it made the phone. It seems that with every release, a handful of minor annoying bugs end up unresolved, and now I'm at the point where I don't even consider flashing it on any of my devices. I hope version 5 rectifies this, but I'm not going to even consider flashing it until I see proof that it's back on the right track. I realize that the devs can only do so much, and I do appreciate what they have been able to do with it thus far, but it really needs to get back to its roots of being the quickest alternative available.

FullXion said:
Maybe i'm not the best person to comment on this, but i own an Xperia Pro, a neglected device which has been steadily but not speedily gaining a very small library (or bookshelf) of custom roms. From the top of my head, two or three of these are based on Miui v4, and these are all dodgy and with bugs aplenty. Even then, i have stuck with Miui so far, simply because i prefer the experience to stock Sony.
I know that if miui v5 comes out before my phones (rapidly approaching) end of life and by some miracle gets ported to my phone, or if (infinitely more likely) i get a new phone and it's available on that, if there are dramatic changes to the ui i won't choose it over miui v4, because to me it's the easiest to use and most well made android ROM available (especially compared to cyanogenmod and aokp).
The above is all opinionated nonsense, feel free to ignore if it somehow offends/angers you
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nah of course thats your opinion... thats what i wanted, not just a fanboy argument that made no sense.
it is very frustrating to me that MIUI is very easy to use (iphone easy) in fact my mother if thinking of moving to android and if thats the case id have to install MIUI because android stock isn't the most user friendly.
What your MIUI thats buggy... is that based on android 2.3?... If so thats strange because thats the version id expect to be almost perfected on all GB devices by now.
I promise you though... (personal opinion not trolling on MIUI lol) ...if your next device is on MIUI based on ICS and not JB... leave it stock or put it in a stock based ROM for a snappier experince.

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I agree that MIUI 4 has been largely underwhelming. I loved MIUI on my original Droid because of how snappy and responsive it made the phone. It seems that with every release, a handful of minor annoying bugs end up unresolved, and now I'm at the point where I don't even consider flashing it on any of my devices. I hope version 5 rectifies this, but I'm not going to even consider flashing it until I see proof that it's back on the right track. I realize that the devs can only do so much, and I do appreciate what they have been able to do with it thus far, but it really needs to get back to its roots of being the quickest alternative available.
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I think you hit the nail on the head right there "get back to its roots" MIUI was about simplicity, beauty and speed... thats what made it what it was in the custom ROM world.
But for some reason when the ICS ROM came out it all changed... i mean recently people mentioned memory usage and unresponsive UI (which is true because i experienced it) ...rather than answering users queries just to acknowledge the issues, they add chinese apps that auto reinstall when remove (this issue may be resolved with some devices after complaints but not with the XperiaS) they add Dolby Surround EQ :/
Heres a list i compiled of what i personally think needs addressing...
http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...fecting-over-major-features-every-week.18750/
Sort it out MIUI!

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Not sure what all the talk is about CM v.X ROM is all about

Hey all,
I have been using this site for all my research on what ROM to run, what Kernel works best, bla bla bla....its the best site by far on the net for the Android platform.
I recently (January 14th) switched over from an Iphone to the Evo 4g and I truly believe that the Droid platform is far superior, especially with the help and dedication to the developers of kernels and roms!
My question is that I keep reading all the "you have to try" and "the BEST rom is" statements about the CM roms. So, I loaded cm v6.1.2 today and maybe its just me, but I am not understanding what all the "gotta have it" is about on this ROM.
4g did not work, i did not have swype, little lines appears on the screen frequently.
I have tried soo many roms/kernels combos, it would make your head spin. I keep going back to Warm 2.2 with netarchy kernel 4.3.1.
Am I missing something?
Thanks!
Well, many people have other phones and CM works much better on them than it does on the Evo. ROM selection is part personal choice, and part maturity of the ROM. Needless to say that if you are flashing, then hopefully you are reading the change-logs and comments to see what the issues are prior to flashing said ROM. Failure to do so may cause you to be confused about what people are excited about when you dislike an individual ROM.
My question is that I keep reading all the "you have to try" and "the BEST rom is" statements about the CM roms. So, I loaded cm v6.1.2 today and maybe its just me, but I am not understanding what all the "gotta have it" is about on this ROM.
4g did not work, i did not have swype, little lines appears on the screen frequently.
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Hi, TPADriod. Welcome to the wonderful world of Android. I am not an expert myself, but I've been using CM on my Droid (1) for a while and I can give you some opinions about CM from my personal perspective.
First of all, you are right that 4G on Evo is not currently workable on CM. However, I heard that the latest nightly builds already have 4G working, and it's very likely that CM7 will ship with 4G enabled. If you are not interested in experimental build and 4G is a must for you, my advice is to wait until it's ready.
Secondly, Swype is a commercial product. CM cannot and will not violate a company's legal right and distribute someone's work. Swype is currently having an open-beta and you can try getting it yourself by going to their website and sign up for the beta. I've been using it ever since I switched to CM. HOWEVER, when the beta is over, you may need to pay for a license to continue using it. If this is a problem to you, you may want to try reverting to the original EVO (you did back up, right?) Then use Titanium Backup to create a back up of the installer and the Swype app -- I am not sure if it would work, though.
Now, at this point you may wonder why we should go through all these troubles to install a third-party ROM. If you are happy with your un-modified EVO 4G, enjoy using the Sense UI, and have no problem dealing with HTC's update schedule, you have no reason to install CM, or any other third-party ROM on any Android devices.
What CM brings to us, is an experience that's very close to what Google envisions. Some people don't like it -- this is especially true to people who like transition effect,
or richer design elements. The stock UI of Android, before Honeycomb arrives, is as plain as possible. But many people like its cleaniness and no non-sense approach.
In addition, once you install CM, the bloatwares installed by your carriers are gone. Now, some people may not agree that they are bloatwares. But some do. On the other hand, CM put back some stuffs that the carriers may intentional take out, or disallow, ex, wifi-tethering, OpenVPN, etc.
On top of that, CM may enable your phone to be over-clocked. My Droid can be over-clocked up to almost 100% higher than stock, while cutting down battery consumption, and remaining stable.
Last but not least, you get a much better update schedule than you will get from the manufacturer and the carrier. Being over 1 year old, there's little chance my Droid 1 will see the light of official 2.3 update. With CM 7, I've been running 2.3 for about a month. Even though it's a nightly build, I can feel how much faster it is than the stock Droid running Froyo. When CM 7 is finalized, I have no doubt that it will be the best experience I can get from my Droid.
My advice to you is, if you enjoy your EVO as is. May be you should just stay away from CM. However, down the road, the desire from HTC and Spring to keep your EVO update will probably fade. At that time, if you still want to hold on to your EVO, may be you should check out CM again, and it may give your EVO an entirely new life.

Is the Sensation dead on the development?

I am sure some a gearing up on the ICS roms but over all there just doesnt seem to be a whole lot out there for the phone as far as roms go. I completely respect the work that has been done and am certainly grateful! However...my G2 seemed like it had a new rom out everyday with so many options to choose from. Maybe it just felt that way because it was my first Android phone but honestly I still visit those forums and see new roms coming out. For the Sensation they all seem the same with very minimal tweaks to the device. Are we still waiting on something or is this phone left in the dust with all the new phones(amaze, SGSS2, etc. etc. )? Just wanted a most likely more informed opinion then my own
What more can this phone do it will match any newer phone out. There is only so much u can do on a phone and most roms are at a stable state so there is nothing left to add. We still see a couple roms updated a week which isn't baf.its just slowed because there is nothing else to add all the roms have everything already
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I guess it's just me then. I just don't feel like I've found THE rom. Everyone seems to have something missing or just off a little. I just know with my G2 I was able to find a couple that I was more then content with. (I know STFU and go back to your G2 then) I love the Sensation...just looking for that happy medium that I haven't quite found yet I guess.
I think you have to look better. There is still much development going on, many ROMs out there. In the last days there have not been many updates, as there were no new leaks from HTC or from anywhere. But the kernel devs are still developing like hell.
For me my ROM is very stable, I don't miss anything what could be done on ROM-base. So why updates, updates and updates? Never change a winning team
After testing a lot of ROMs, most of them are already quite stable... Don't think there's much to work on. It's a good thing no?
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I am sure some a gearing up on the ICS roms but over all there just doesnt seem to be a whole lot out there for the phone as far as roms go. I completely respect the work that has been done and am certainly grateful! However...my G2 seemed like it had a new rom out everyday with so many options to choose from. Maybe it just felt that way because it was my first Android phone but honestly I still visit those forums and see new roms coming out. For the Sensation they all seem the same with very minimal tweaks to the device. Are we still waiting on something or is this phone left in the dust with all the new phones(amaze, SGSS2, etc. etc. )? Just wanted a most likely more informed opinion then my own
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I guess you haven't heard about ics source being out and a rom. being developed right now for it?
I'd say it's pretty far from being dead... There are some pretty good ROM options out there... InsertCoin, Android Revolution HD...which really make the device shine on a whole new level... And something brand new comes along every week or 2...
I guess if you're looking to download a new ROM every day, you might consider it dead...but then again, who'd want to switch ROMs every day? I, for once, am content with the current plateau...it lets me actually USE my phone...rather than keeping it plugged in and flashing/reflashing all the time...
Anyway, stay tuned...
Well, developement isn't dead, but it's booooring as hell compared to what Desire was/is. That's the problem with having current high end phone, there isn't much stuff to port.
It just look boring because most of the roms are the same as in sense 3.5 wich cant be fully theme yet. Almost every rom is stock sense 3.5, thats why i`m still on sense 3.0 because it can be fully customize. Nobody is trying to make their roms look different like on the desire forum and other forums. There can be many sense 3.5 roms but if they all look different than it will look like a lot of developement is going on but because they look the same makes it look like nothing is going on.
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I guess it's just me then. I just don't feel like I've found THE rom. Everyone seems to have something missing or just off a little. I just know with my G2 I was able to find a couple that I was more then content with. (I know STFU and go back to your G2 then) I love the Sensation...just looking for that happy medium that I haven't quite found yet I guess.
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There is a rooted stock ROM, there are about 4 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 based ROMs with full Sense UI, there are two direct CM7 ports, there are at least 2 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 with some or all Sense UI components stripped.
I really don't know what you're expecting. We have basically everything you could hope for at this point.
If you don't mind going without Sense, I highly recommend HyperSensation, as I've seen between 14-25hrs of battery life on a single charge depending on usage (14hrs being with constant, heavy usage and long phone calls over 3G).
While ROM development has certainly slowed down, the kernel devs are still releasing betas every couple of days, which in my opinion is more exciting because the kernel side has a more direct effect on speed and battery life.
I'd say just find a stable build and run with it while we wait for ICS stuffs to be released.
By the way, have you checked out the MiUI build that MiUI.us is putting out there? It is by far my favorite rom to use (yes you can theme it to NOT look like an iPhone lol) and it's fast with excellent battery life. The only thing that keeps me from making it my daily is the need for a good camera with full HD recording, which Scott and TD are actively working on. I have two young kids under 2 years old, so I kind of need that stuff haha.
For what it's worth, my daily now is ARHD 3.6.7 with Faux's 0.2.5.5. Excellent stability, speed and battery life so far has been awesome.
Since ICS source is out I doubt any Devs would continue work on Gingerbread based ROMs. The reason Desire has more development is all the Sense 2.5+ ROMs are ports and so require fixing and more development. Since Senny is a stock Sense 3 phone there is nothing that can be added that aint already been done.
Once ICS development gets going we will see more ICS stock ROMS.
ICS will be better on Sensation. +trolface+
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There is a rooted stock ROM, there are about 4 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 based ROMs with full Sense UI, there are two direct CM7 ports, there are at least 2 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 with some or all Sense UI components stripped.
I really don't know what you're expecting. We have basically everything you could hope for at this point.
If you don't mind going without Sense, I highly recommend HyperSensation, as I've seen between 14-25hrs of battery life on a single charge depending on usage (14hrs being with constant, heavy usage and long phone calls over 3G).
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While I agree this phone isn't completely dead, you should look at some other phones out there. The vibrant for example or desire have had and still have more and more diversified roms. Most of our sensation roms are just sense over and over again. Anyway just my 2 cents.
sent from my Sensation 4G
All the kernel & themes Development keeps my Sensation busy! Until a new cool rom comes along....
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While I agree this phone isn't completely dead, you should look at some other phones out there. The vibrant for example or desire have had and still have more and more diversified roms. Most of our sensation roms are just sense over and over again. Anyway just my 2 cents.
sent from my Sensation 4G
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Seems to be related to Sense being more popular on Sensation than other phones, in this case the users here lack interest in CM & AOSP & MIUI. There is some interest but that doesn't make up the majority of the users of Sensation; I find it quite odd since normally MIUI & Vanilla would have more users than the stock UIs(based on my past phone experiences). If people cared more for CM/MIUI/AOSP, then development may be much better, a new MIUI ROM would be made every week by TheDerekJay when I had MT4G, and I miss this kind of updating on my Sensation. Not to say devs here don't update, can't really say the rate of updates is equal IMO.
Ive enjoyed all the development that goes on for sensation. Was this thread posted before actually looking at the dev section??? 2 pages of roms are at least updated every 2 weeks
i have htc Sensation and the development
there r many roms running sense 3.0 / 3.5 but all of them resemble each
and the development for ICS it's slow in Sensation
there r many devices run ICS with working touch screen and every day have update .. last ICS update for ICS before 5 days and i think the rom not a flashable file
I bought the Sensation to replace my Desire, and it's true that I am a bit disappointed after the number of ROM available for Desire ... but Sensation's ROM are very good, I miss a really stable AOSP ROM and it could be perfect!
ROMs have gotten to the point where they are pretty much stable, what more can you ask for?
I think you'll start seeing things as HTC releases more for our devs to customize the ish out of.

CyanogenMod, rant and review

Here are some of my thoughts on CyanogenMod, and their development advances. Please, discus...
http://goo.gl/ndfAi
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Here are some of my thoughts on CyanogenMod, and their development advances. Please, discus...
http://goo.gl/ndfAi
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Don't see a whole lot of rant in that post, but anyway. I feel that your view on whether to go CM or MIUI is spot on. I understand that people have a preference, but when I have seen and tried devices with both I end up with largely the same experience. Taste is all it comes down to!
i am very thankful for Cyanogen Mod. Never tried MIUI
can send mms with cyanogenmod?
I liked CM7, very fast and lots of memory
the only thing was I couldn't synchronize my contacts with FB profiles pics like in HTC sense
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I liked CM7, very fast and lots of memory
the only thing was I couldn't synchronize my contacts with FB profiles pics like in HTC sense
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That is because Google removed the ability unless you installed the FB app
Herold,
I need you to work on your writing a bit more before you submit a piece to be critiqued. Proper apostrophe placement is not only a pet peeve of mine, but a clear indication of someone who refused to pay a very small amount of attention in English class.
Sincerely,
The ****
I'm glad that there are so many developers interested in porting CM to various devices. It's the only thing that makes using a non-Google phone/tablet usable for me. I can't wait for stable CM9.
I love CM, the ability for themes is awesome. I currently use the ICS theme and it doesn't even look close to stock Gingerbread. And it is the most stable ROM that I've experienced, too.
Nice post, I never tried AOSP or MIUI and just recently got into using CM roms. Gave me more information on the new roms I've been seeing. I would agree you don't rant too much nor go into too much detail as the pros or cons of each variation of the mods.
I had CM7 with my Desire Z,
now with Sensation, I'm currently tryin InsertCoin 4.0.X
Can't really deside, both have their ways
I am hoping that they port over CM7 or CM9 to the sensation xl. Im currently running the bindroid rom which is good but really holding out for cyanogenMod.
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I am hoping that they port over CM7 or CM9 to the sensation xl. Im currently running the bindroid rom which is good but really holding out for cyanogenMod.
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I hope so too. I'm planning to buy the Sensation XL. But won't do unless i make sure there will be CM7 or 9 Port
i tried CM and MIUI and i prefer MIUI absolutely!
In my opinion, I think that CyanogenMod will surpass stock Android when it comes to features and stability, eventually.
It probably already has... when you consider that its on yaffs2 and not ext4
Stability?
I have been using CM7 ever since I got tired of rooted stock. The first version I installed was 7.0.0, which lasted about 4 months until it started wigging out. I flashed 7.0.3, and that was great until three weeks later it started exhibiting the same problems as the previous version. I reflashed the same version and had a little more success, lasting without error until 7.1.0 Stable was released. Since October, I've had to reflash at LEAST 5 times, due to instability. Now don't get me wrong, when CM7 works it REALLY works well. When it doesn't...my phone is worthless until I reflash. I would LOVE to know why everything starts force closing after x amount of time, as I'm really getting tired of setting things up the way I want them each and every time. *steps down from soap box*
i loved CM7 on my N1
Good too read a review about something which isn't commercially developed.

Stable ICS/JB ROMs?

Hey.
I've been on jb roms since they came out for desire s and have been using ics before that. However... ics roms have been in beta stage since ever and have not really advanced in terms of having stable or even working main functions. Well this is because of the fact that our devs did not have kernel sources. There have been words that kernel source release would solve all our major issues like front cam and others. But kernel source has been released and I'm seeing a decline in our forum's traffic and in development. I know i's partly due to many original members leaving. But I also hear that devs are facing difficulty in making the kernel. So I want to ask, will we ever have fully stable ics or jb roms or is this not a possibility?
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Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM, AKOP and JB source build threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!
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Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM and AKOP threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!
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I fully understand the devs' hard work and their dedications. That's not what this thread is asking. It seems to many devs that they are still having a hard time adjusting ics and jb to our device even upon kernel source release. Despite the prior speculation that things would be much easier with kernel source. So I was bringing the problem forth to see if it is possible for us to have stable ics or jb roms. No need to be all defensive. Just want an objective discussion
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custom roms are rearly FULLY stable. there is always a little bug here and there. but since the release of the official ICS and the latest kernel source ICS roms are getting mature at last. and if you're still not satisfied, wait a month more. or flash the official ICS and have a really stable rom now.
JB is another story. there is no native kernel source for it and i doubt there will ever be.
I totally see where you are both coming from. The kernel source was released over a fortnight ago.
I agree with Ben, in respect we should appreciate what the current devs have given us etc etc,
But I also agree with skim, I am quite surprised that with the kernel source released, AOSP still hasn't got a functional kernel based on our Saga build. (Andromadus is using a kernel port)
I was hoping for at least ICS AOSP to be working by now, but I guess that is not the case
The forums have certainly gone a lot quieter now, and I suspect by the end of the year, even more of us will leave
But back to the original point, I wish that things could pick up like they were this time last year, but sadly that will never happen.
I have no intentions of insulting any devs, I truly appreciate the work they have provided us, and I haven't contributed anything particularly useful, so I am in no position to do so, but this is just how I feel.
When I look through forums like the S2, I envy the development... even after a year, ROMs are still on full scale, with so many choices to choose from...
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Unfortunately Oly I don't think that you can compare the DS to the SGS2. We unfortunately were never a main stream device (like the SGS2), we sadly missed the boat, with the Sensation coming out shortly after our release, I reckon that the focus went from DHD to Sensation and the limelight never really shone on us long enough to get a main stream following.
The Samsung onslaught appears to unbeatable currently sadly even the One series hasn't really made a dent.
We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
P.S.
For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Well, that was philosophical!
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Skanob said:
We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
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For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Haha I don't know about you man... but I'm a student and learning to move on to a new device is not as easy as it sounds. I'm stuck with a contract until next April. So ill be sticking around here till then xD
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I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...
SteveO_ said:
I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...
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htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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At the moment i'm using stock rom (sense) too, cause my prefered custom rom has still a problem with battery drain...
As soon this is fixed, i'll go to ICS DS again...
But at all, the ICS stock rom is working very nice...
Fallout v4.4.0 is pretty stable to me, been using since a while now.
Tonight i'll try Fallout 5.0, let's see how it is... :highfive:
MIUI 2.8.x or 2.9.x
I recently flashed MIUI 2.8.17 and its been a joyful ride! It is very very stable. I had to reboot only once so far and that is an intermittent bug. BT/WiFi/Tethering/Camera etc. etc. everything works! (hard to find that in an ICS ROM)! Its my daily ROM now.. :good:
Fallout 5.0
I got myself S-off and rooted 2 days ago.
The first custom rom Ive tried is Fallout 5.0. Only one day into my test and it's very stable and fast compared to stock gingerbread.
I'm very pleased with it so far :good:
anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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My Gingerbread stock rom experience made me root my phone. I kept getting the white screen with the green HTC logo and no matter what I did it always came back. I have now tried out about 5 or 6 custom roms and this issue no longer appears. Of course there are other issues, some of which are serious. But there are ROMs which are in general more than good enough for day to day usage. I currently use ICE-DSv5 but for example Fallout v4.4 is stable (v5 is not stable for me but it is for a lot of people).
If you are interested you can look at my other thread here called "My First Rooted Phone" for an overview of my experiences so far.
Blindbean and Codename are great JB roms, not fully stable, but good to work with.
Yes. I flash every recent roms so I know how they are. I started this thread to get an idea of if it is possible to have a stable rom. The devs have been struggling with major bugs since early this year and we're still stuck with the same bugs we had prior to the release of the kernel sources. I do know it is a difficult process. But wanted an answer from a dev. Is it possible for us to have working front cam, proper video playback, etc. ? This isn't complaining btw just wanted an answer other than "be patient. Be thankful. It's good enough"
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if you want stable flash rooted stock. it has everything you mentioned. combine it with tweaked kernel and you have even more...

[Q] Current State of Rom's & Going Forward

I wrote out a whole post but realized it was mostly rambling so I figured I would condense it, although its still pretty rambling:
It seems like our phone (Maxx HD) just missed the developer bandwagon and that roms aren't really going anywhere and never actually will. Everything seems like a quick port and I have had very little success with most of them. The only stable one I have found has been Nexesque, although its basically stock with a few tweaks and add-ons.
I have been running XenonHD for the past 2ish weeks, 3 maybe with horrible battery life and a heat problem. I was running with all of the regular performance tweeks, a very dark blue (almost black) solid background, low brightness and a black theme so I have no idea what could have caused it. I would run out of full battery by 12 or 1 half of the time with an incredibly hot phone, and the other half of the time I could make it to 6 or 7 but no later. I have reflashed and am almost positive I followed the steps correctly.
I'm not asking what the best rom is, but I'm asking if there is a rom that people are actually happy with out there (preferably 4.2) or if there are any real hopes for a tangible one to come out in the near future. It seems like we're kind of screwed as the user when compared to other phones development, and while I have nothing to offer outside of small donations I would just like to know if my predictions are accurate. Is everybody waiting for something that will never come out?
VCavs said:
I wrote out a whole post but realized it was mostly rambling so I figured I would condense it, although its still pretty rambling:
It seems like our phone (Maxx HD) just missed the developer bandwagon and that roms aren't really going anywhere and never actually will. Everything seems like a quick port and I have had very little success with most of them. The only stable one I have found has been Nexesque, although its basically stock with a few tweaks and add-ons.
I have been running XenonHD for the past 2ish weeks, 3 maybe with horrible battery life and a heat problem. I was running with all of the regular performance tweeks, a very dark blue (almost black) solid background, low brightness and a black theme so I have no idea what could have caused it. I would run out of full battery by 12 or 1 half of the time with an incredibly hot phone, and the other half of the time I could make it to 6 or 7 but no later. I have reflashed and am almost positive I followed the steps correctly.
I'm not asking what the best rom is, but I'm asking if there is a rom that people are actually happy with out there (preferably 4.2) or if there are any real hopes for a tangible one to come out in the near future. It seems like we're kind of screwed as the user when compared to other phones development, and while I have nothing to offer outside of small donations I would just like to know if my predictions are accurate. Is everybody waiting for something that will never come out?
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To be honest I think you need to step back and put everything in prospective.hash dh etc are working on a from scratch kernel that will fix the nagging problems the 4.2.2 roms have had. This kernel is a work in progress, but I think it will be finished to a point acceptable to most people soonish. That being said, besides the annoying gps flash from stock issue and no camcorder I'm not sure there are any major bugs with the 4.2.2 roms. There have been a lot of ports because there are a lot of good roms out there for other devices that people wanted to bring over. We were "screwed" when we bought the phone as this phone had a locked bootloader(with no apparent unlock) and there were never a ton of devs to begin on moto due to the same bootloader issue. That being said, I think a lot of devs have rallied around the hd since the unlock and things will only get better after hash gets the kernel up to speed. I agree nexesque is awesome (it's what I'm running right now in fact) but there are already a lot of choices on each of the 4 most popular forums.
Tl/dr patience lol
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I really like this device atm I am using stock Rogers Fw . I have tried many of the 4.2 I prefer to hang back and let it get better the phone itself is a nice piece
My2c
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I imagine that we will probably also get get an android update at some point (though very unclear what and when). Maybe this will renew developer interest in the device?
I the meantime I hope the kernel development will play out well.
Personally, even if I love personalization and community development, I actually think the stock rom (xt925 Vodafone) is quite good. Good battery life and better ui than much of the competition.
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