I am sure some a gearing up on the ICS roms but over all there just doesnt seem to be a whole lot out there for the phone as far as roms go. I completely respect the work that has been done and am certainly grateful! However...my G2 seemed like it had a new rom out everyday with so many options to choose from. Maybe it just felt that way because it was my first Android phone but honestly I still visit those forums and see new roms coming out. For the Sensation they all seem the same with very minimal tweaks to the device. Are we still waiting on something or is this phone left in the dust with all the new phones(amaze, SGSS2, etc. etc. )? Just wanted a most likely more informed opinion then my own
What more can this phone do it will match any newer phone out. There is only so much u can do on a phone and most roms are at a stable state so there is nothing left to add. We still see a couple roms updated a week which isn't baf.its just slowed because there is nothing else to add all the roms have everything already
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I guess it's just me then. I just don't feel like I've found THE rom. Everyone seems to have something missing or just off a little. I just know with my G2 I was able to find a couple that I was more then content with. (I know STFU and go back to your G2 then) I love the Sensation...just looking for that happy medium that I haven't quite found yet I guess.
I think you have to look better. There is still much development going on, many ROMs out there. In the last days there have not been many updates, as there were no new leaks from HTC or from anywhere. But the kernel devs are still developing like hell.
For me my ROM is very stable, I don't miss anything what could be done on ROM-base. So why updates, updates and updates? Never change a winning team
After testing a lot of ROMs, most of them are already quite stable... Don't think there's much to work on. It's a good thing no?
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I am sure some a gearing up on the ICS roms but over all there just doesnt seem to be a whole lot out there for the phone as far as roms go. I completely respect the work that has been done and am certainly grateful! However...my G2 seemed like it had a new rom out everyday with so many options to choose from. Maybe it just felt that way because it was my first Android phone but honestly I still visit those forums and see new roms coming out. For the Sensation they all seem the same with very minimal tweaks to the device. Are we still waiting on something or is this phone left in the dust with all the new phones(amaze, SGSS2, etc. etc. )? Just wanted a most likely more informed opinion then my own
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I guess you haven't heard about ics source being out and a rom. being developed right now for it?
I'd say it's pretty far from being dead... There are some pretty good ROM options out there... InsertCoin, Android Revolution HD...which really make the device shine on a whole new level... And something brand new comes along every week or 2...
I guess if you're looking to download a new ROM every day, you might consider it dead...but then again, who'd want to switch ROMs every day? I, for once, am content with the current plateau...it lets me actually USE my phone...rather than keeping it plugged in and flashing/reflashing all the time...
Anyway, stay tuned...
Well, developement isn't dead, but it's booooring as hell compared to what Desire was/is. That's the problem with having current high end phone, there isn't much stuff to port.
It just look boring because most of the roms are the same as in sense 3.5 wich cant be fully theme yet. Almost every rom is stock sense 3.5, thats why i`m still on sense 3.0 because it can be fully customize. Nobody is trying to make their roms look different like on the desire forum and other forums. There can be many sense 3.5 roms but if they all look different than it will look like a lot of developement is going on but because they look the same makes it look like nothing is going on.
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I guess it's just me then. I just don't feel like I've found THE rom. Everyone seems to have something missing or just off a little. I just know with my G2 I was able to find a couple that I was more then content with. (I know STFU and go back to your G2 then) I love the Sensation...just looking for that happy medium that I haven't quite found yet I guess.
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There is a rooted stock ROM, there are about 4 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 based ROMs with full Sense UI, there are two direct CM7 ports, there are at least 2 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 with some or all Sense UI components stripped.
I really don't know what you're expecting. We have basically everything you could hope for at this point.
If you don't mind going without Sense, I highly recommend HyperSensation, as I've seen between 14-25hrs of battery life on a single charge depending on usage (14hrs being with constant, heavy usage and long phone calls over 3G).
While ROM development has certainly slowed down, the kernel devs are still releasing betas every couple of days, which in my opinion is more exciting because the kernel side has a more direct effect on speed and battery life.
I'd say just find a stable build and run with it while we wait for ICS stuffs to be released.
By the way, have you checked out the MiUI build that MiUI.us is putting out there? It is by far my favorite rom to use (yes you can theme it to NOT look like an iPhone lol) and it's fast with excellent battery life. The only thing that keeps me from making it my daily is the need for a good camera with full HD recording, which Scott and TD are actively working on. I have two young kids under 2 years old, so I kind of need that stuff haha.
For what it's worth, my daily now is ARHD 3.6.7 with Faux's 0.2.5.5. Excellent stability, speed and battery life so far has been awesome.
Since ICS source is out I doubt any Devs would continue work on Gingerbread based ROMs. The reason Desire has more development is all the Sense 2.5+ ROMs are ports and so require fixing and more development. Since Senny is a stock Sense 3 phone there is nothing that can be added that aint already been done.
Once ICS development gets going we will see more ICS stock ROMS.
ICS will be better on Sensation. +trolface+
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There is a rooted stock ROM, there are about 4 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 based ROMs with full Sense UI, there are two direct CM7 ports, there are at least 2 Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.7 with some or all Sense UI components stripped.
I really don't know what you're expecting. We have basically everything you could hope for at this point.
If you don't mind going without Sense, I highly recommend HyperSensation, as I've seen between 14-25hrs of battery life on a single charge depending on usage (14hrs being with constant, heavy usage and long phone calls over 3G).
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While I agree this phone isn't completely dead, you should look at some other phones out there. The vibrant for example or desire have had and still have more and more diversified roms. Most of our sensation roms are just sense over and over again. Anyway just my 2 cents.
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All the kernel & themes Development keeps my Sensation busy! Until a new cool rom comes along....
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While I agree this phone isn't completely dead, you should look at some other phones out there. The vibrant for example or desire have had and still have more and more diversified roms. Most of our sensation roms are just sense over and over again. Anyway just my 2 cents.
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Seems to be related to Sense being more popular on Sensation than other phones, in this case the users here lack interest in CM & AOSP & MIUI. There is some interest but that doesn't make up the majority of the users of Sensation; I find it quite odd since normally MIUI & Vanilla would have more users than the stock UIs(based on my past phone experiences). If people cared more for CM/MIUI/AOSP, then development may be much better, a new MIUI ROM would be made every week by TheDerekJay when I had MT4G, and I miss this kind of updating on my Sensation. Not to say devs here don't update, can't really say the rate of updates is equal IMO.
Ive enjoyed all the development that goes on for sensation. Was this thread posted before actually looking at the dev section??? 2 pages of roms are at least updated every 2 weeks
i have htc Sensation and the development
there r many roms running sense 3.0 / 3.5 but all of them resemble each
and the development for ICS it's slow in Sensation
there r many devices run ICS with working touch screen and every day have update .. last ICS update for ICS before 5 days and i think the rom not a flashable file
I bought the Sensation to replace my Desire, and it's true that I am a bit disappointed after the number of ROM available for Desire ... but Sensation's ROM are very good, I miss a really stable AOSP ROM and it could be perfect!
ROMs have gotten to the point where they are pretty much stable, what more can you ask for?
I think you'll start seeing things as HTC releases more for our devs to customize the ish out of.
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I was thinking about selling my Vibrant and buying a G2x, but the dev section seems to be pretty dead. Any reason why wasnt this CMs personal phone at one time?
I think part of it is LG's quick memory regarding it. Quick as in quick to forget it, and Nvidia won't release driver source so devs are forced to reuse the 2.3.3 release in order to get 100% functionality.
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I was thinking about selling my Vibrant and buying a G2x, but the dev section seems to be pretty dead. Any reason why wasnt this CMs personal phone at one time?
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Some devs don't post updates on xda. Some of them give updatea via twitter or other sites. But it's not dead.
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Does anyone know if they will ever release new drivers? So basically until they do which is most likely never this phone has been as updated as possible? I noticed CM7 is still updating which means 2.3.6 so is there much chance of ICS? Finally who are some good people to follow on twitter for good roms? Thanks a ton guys!
due to overall problems
I believe there were many more developers that planned on developing for the g2x and bought the device to do so as i did.
But with so may problems at the start i just didnt want to even attempt to rom for this device and be blamed when the phone self destructed. after much tampering it is running pretty well but i just dont trust the phone and im sure there are some others that didnt work on the G2X for the same reason. There are some very good options out there and talented people that are working on the G2x. so dont be afraid due to low quanity because there is some high quality work done.
Not sure it will grow much since its been obvious that tmobile and lg's fix for the phone is to shutup until it goes away. But the roms have the phone running pretty well and you wont be disapointed, But i would wait until oct 12th and get the hercules(even without the samsung chip) will be a killer phone or the HTC coming out the same day with similar specs.
This phone works fabulously with CyanogenMod, EXCEPT that bluetooth audio (to a wireless headset or whatever) doesn't work.
Other than that, EVEYRYTHING works. Love this phone.
Well that's disappointing to hear that I probably will never see ICS running on this device. It's a very capable device and the fact that LG refuses to update makes me want to put them in the same category as Viewsonic (unfortunately I also bought the g-tablet).
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Well that's disappointing to hear that I probably will never see ICS running on this device. It's a very capable device and the fact that LG refuses to update makes me want to put them in the same category as Viewsonic (unfortunately I also bought the g-tablet).
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will be the best hope to get icecream running. if they do so than other rommers will also follow suite. but cm leads the way on drivers and such for most roms. so if they dont do it ussually noone does. But i wouldnt expect to see anything from LG, they have not shown anything in the way of skill or care to put out updates for their devices.
Because there ate stable ROMs out there and you can only do so much. Other lively dev sections ate deceiving - 20 variations of the stock ROM with different wallpapers and start up screens does not mean a lot of development for the phone.
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I've been running cm7 for about a month now and I'm really happy with it. Every other rom I try have issues and I always come back to cm7. It makes the g2x a very good phone IMO
There are plenty of devs to follow just some took some time off to dev for other devices ... I follow fitsnugly because he does some great compiling with his roms ... Morfic has some awesome kernals and faux123 has his aosp rom and awesome kernals... doniqq has his eaglesblood roms ... whitehawkx has weapon rom... so there's plenty ... I'm a crackflasher so I'm always running something different .... I felt the same way ..Was thinking of jumping ship to a different phone but I just live this phone... Just look around the forum.. there's always somthing ...
One of the basic things I had to decide on was whether I wanted the LG camera app with an OTA based rom or all the fancy-ness of a CM7 based rom. Now I'm at the point where I just group OTA or CM7 and go from there.
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One of the basic things I had to decide on was whether I wanted the LG camera app with an OTA based rom or all the fancy-ness of a CM7 based rom. Now I'm at the point where I just group OTA or CM7 and go from there.
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I know what you mean... I use my camera often... Work and personal use and at one point was running cm7 and was comparing the different can apps from the market ... My wife thought I was going nuts , I was sitting in my living room taking pics for like an hour and a half and comparing pics... There are some pretty good free camera apps that I've used with cm7.. vignette is pretty good...
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I know what you mean... I use my camera often... Work and personal use and at one point was running cm7 and was comparing the different can apps from the market ... My wife thought I was going nuts , I was sitting in my living room taking pics for like an hour and a half and comparing pics... There are some pretty good free camera apps that I've used with cm7.. vignette is pretty good...
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Yup. Work and personal for me too. I tried a few market apps but I just couldn't find something that I was happy with. It was kind of a deal breaker for me considering I really wanted to stick to CM7 for the ridiculous theme/customization options out there.
Swift Star is out, another new ROM. Several out there to try. I prefer those based on 2.3.3 OTA
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Swift Star is out, another new ROM. Several out there to try. I prefer those based on 2.3.3 OTA
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I was running this rom up until 5 minutes ago... I just reflashed fitsnuglys 9/27 kang... Dont get me wrong the 2.3.3 roms are great... There's just something about the cm7 and the kangs that I like... There's always something new added to them and for me they seem to make my phone run better ... Sure there's no LG camera but there's plenty of camera market apps..
Yeah, I see updates for ROMs pretty often, every 5-10days, that's a good release period, and if you want to use a ROM that is constantly being developed just run CM7, a lot of people say it's not good with battery but if you flash one of morfics kernels you will have great battery life. Some people run into issues with it but if you wipe everything you should be fine. Faux's AOSP Rom+Kernel run great together also.
While development might have slowed down a bit for this phone, there's still plenty of excellent devs and roms to choose from. I have always preferred faux's aosp rom/kernel combo for my daily stable/very reliable/great performing/battery life.
Now if you want to see no development look no further then the mytouch4g slide thread. That's just sad cuz even the og mt4g has tons of devs working on it and its still a great phone.
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I don't know, There just doesn't seem much hype or effort going into the AOSP roms or the customization for them. I feel like it's a lost cause. I see sense being updated rather often and I dont see the hype over sense. This is legit T-Mobiles best phone. I just don't understand why there's lack of development for AOSP roms. Yes we have Cyanogenmod and we had Xboarder and Htcclay for a short term, which I feel hurt the sensation community. I just don't see much coming out. Which makes me want to move on (maybe trade up for a nexus s)
I'm not saying anyones work here wasnt good, I give you mucho props for developing and taking your time on this, it's more than i could say for myself that doesn't know anything about development.
Comment, Negative or Positive. I dont care. I'd like to hear what anyone or everyone thinks.
I like debates.
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I don't know, There just doesn't seem much hype or effort going into the AOSP roms or the customization for them. I feel like it's a lost cause. I see sense being updated rather often and I dont see the hype over sense. This is legit T-Mobiles best phone. I just don't understand why there's lack of development for AOSP roms. Yes we have Cyanogenmod and we had Xboarder and Htcclay for a short term, which I feel hurt the sensation community. I just don't see much coming out. Which makes me want to move on (maybe trade up for a nexus s)
I'm not saying anyones work here wasnt good, I give you mucho props for developing and taking your time on this, it's more than i could say for myself that doesn't know anything about development.
Comment, Negative or Positive. I dont care. I'd like to hear what anyone or everyone thinks.
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I agree completely, and I have shared this same opinion multiple times already in this section. I am not used to AOSP/CM being so unpopular with the users, I don't even understand how CM's views are surpassed by a Sense ROM. Every other phone I had it would be the opposite, but here you guys prefer Sense only and give it more support, causing the Devs to pay more attention to it instead. I noticed when I 1st came here that Faux was developing, but he had no AOSP ROM for this phone, I said hmmm at first cause I was curious about the situation. I was hoping for a AOSP from Faux as I had on my MT4G, now I know other devs have AOSP, but the support for it isn't as intensive as in other phone sections IMO.
I have to agree, coming from an evo where it seems I had many many options of roms. this phone looks wise is everything I've wanted(the reason I obviously bought it). but I would take a nexus s if given the opportunity to be honest. I don't know what it is maybe due to the amaze being out? or the Sgs2? but I guess were third in the list fir t mobile devices now so not that popular anymore?
just my 2 cents.
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I guess there's a lack of AOSP ROMs because the source hasn't been released yet.
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I guess there's a lack of AOSP ROMs because the source hasn't been released yet.
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I think people mean Gingerbread ASOP ROMs which we have had the source for a year now.
same here... not impressed with any AOSP Roms... camera very bad... many FC issues and miui with battery drain issues...
Same here...i am really done...once the galaxy nexus come out i will get it and be done with it. I would have sworn this phone would have cm7 by now. I should have gotten the nexus s last year if not because it didn't have sd...but this time around i will just stick with the nexus. REALLY done with all these so called wannabe nexus.
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Yeah, it's quite disappointing. I was quite shocked tbh, coming from the Desire (which has ****loads of roms). Guess I should have done a bit more research before buying my Sensation XE, but then again I love it anyway, despite the number of AOSP roms
Maybe the Sensation just isn't appealing to the majority of devs out there? Or perhaps it's just a matter of time before the devs from older models move on to better phones (hopefully Sensation)...
Fortunately though the devs we do have are awesome, and I for one am quite fulfilled with my current cm7 rom
Mad?
Are you kidding me? They are the BEST! They dont drain your battery.
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in hopes that I would finally get a phone that gets updates. Granted, this phone does get updates - to Sense. But I am slightly disappointed after seeing so much movement on these GSM devices in the past. Now it seems like there's a lot of focus in the CDMA area. Go figure.
I'd much rather have a GSM/HSPA phone, and I do wish we had a fully functioning CM7 so we can have better ROMs - especially for what was supposed to be HTC's flagship phone.
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You sir haven't tried coredroid. Don't go bashing all Roms.
jjdoctor said:
same here... not impressed with any AOSP Roms... camera very bad... many FC issues and miui with battery drain issues...
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The only thing that is stopping me use AOSP roms are the terrible camera app they have. P.s CoreDroid really is disgusting to look at, I had it on my sensation for less than 5 mins before I downloaded a different rom. Overuse of colour and awful fonts really is not sleek, just tacky.
Yep. Thats right. AOSP roms are way better. the only thing people are wanting from the sense rom is the camera app i bet you.
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Yep. Thats right. AOSP roms are way better. the only thing people are wanting from the sense rom is the camera app i bet you.
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The camera and the beats audio. Aosp roms are nice to have but I just can't deal with all these bugs that are still there.hopefully the guys porting ics will bring a better name to aosp on the sensation
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Not really. I use this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321556
with the Faux kernel. It's AOSP with Cyanogenmod Settings included, so it's basically CM. At this point in time, AOSP roms for the Sensation are about perfect, so there isn't much development needed. Now we're all just hoping for AOSP Android 4.0.
Also, I agree about the camera, it's the only thing I like about Sense. The AOSP camera sucks hard.
I'm definitely not disappointed. For me, CM7 is faster, simpler, more elegant and more useful than Sense in every way.
The camera is the ONLY thing that is better on Sense, but the CM7 camera has improved greatly and is without a doubt good enough.
Btw, I've been using CM7 as my daily driver since it was released on this phone (while occasionally trying out every single Sense rom available) and have had zero issues with it since like alpha 6.. so what bugs are you all talking about??
There is also nothing on any Sense rom that can even compare to the amount of options you're able to customize with Cyanogenmod Settings. The status bar tweaks and notification bar widget tweaks alone are simply amazing.
i love sense... i buyed a sensation instead of a sgs2 because of sense why should i change this?
Thing is, If I wanted a stock android look I would have bought a nasty plastic samsung. AOSP may be fast, but twithout exception, they are pig ugle and dull. Sense makes a difference. HTC and sense is a winning combo, mainly because of sense
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Thing is, If I wanted a stock android look I would have bought a nasty plastic samsung. AOSP may be fast, but twithout exception, they are pig ugle and dull. Sense makes a difference. HTC and sense is a winning combo, mainly because of sense
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Not saying you're wrong or I disagree, but most people are saying that Sense is what's holding HTC back. I understand both points, but I do agree that Sense is in need of an overhaul - and while Sense may be nicer than Gingerbread, Ice Cream's UI looks great.
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..AOSP may be fast, but twithout exception, they are pig ugle and dull..
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I don't think this is all that ugly..
Hey,
Im Knivez and im new to XDA but i have been around lurking and reading forums around XDA i just decided to start posting because of the variety of custom ROMS there are to choose from now a days. I have a Mytouch 4G and i love it!
Im having some trouble, with all the different custom ROMS there are (MIUI, Sense, CM7, etc...) I cant seem to decide which one i want to use. I personally so far am a fan of MIUI because of all the customization options i have on it. But i also like sense because of the look.
Which ROM is your top choice, which one do you think is the most complete and well polished one with least bugs?
Knivez said:
Hey,
Im Knivez and im new to XDA but i have been around lurking and reading forums around XDA i just decided to start posting because of the variety of custom ROMS there are to choose from now a days. I have a Mytouch 4G and i love it!
Im having some trouble, with all the different custom ROMS there are (MIUI, Sense, CM7, etc...) I cant seem to decide which one i want to use. I personally so far am a fan of MIUI because of all the customization options i have on it. But i also like sense because of the look.
Which ROM is your top choice, which one do you think is the most complete and well polished one with least bugs?
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First of all, welcome to XDA! Second, I am personally a fan of CM, mainly because it's one of the few ROMs that are supported for my phone, but also because of the large base of users and small amount of bugs. (at least for me)
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First of all, welcome to XDA! Second, I am personally a fan of CM, mainly because it's one of the few ROMs that are supported for my phone, but also because of the large base of users and small amount of bugs. (at least for me)
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Thank you, I used to love CM but for some reason it killed my phones battery life. I used it for some time until i got bored of it and the fact the Updates stopped coming. i Started searching for new ROMS. Im very excited for CM9 though. looking forward to it
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Thank you, I used to love CM but for some reason it killed my phones battery life. I used it for some time until i got bored of it and the fact the Updates stopped coming. i Started searching for new ROMS. Im very excited for CM9 though. looking forward to it
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Yeah, unfortunately I'm growing bored of it as well. Hopefully, CM9 will be out soon
Well guys, welcome to XDA Forums. I have been here for a little while and actually tried as many roms as I could. MIUI Roms are not my stuff for personal motives, but I have tested the WP7 themed rom and it was ok. CM7 has great performance and battery drain was more than acceptable, however I am kinda hooked with Sense and then tried Android Revolution, WCX Illuminati and some others Sense based. In the end, I have decided for RCMIX3D Runny V4.0. It works smoothly, has many tweaks and although battery drain is not that good it doesn't have any of the AT&T bloatware and allows to switch some OC / UV scritps among other things.
See ya...
CM7 is so far my Favorite
I have a HTC Aria and have used Liberated Aria (Nice Clean Stock 2.2 Rom) and CM7 and I just love how much you can customize on it!
I've also installed CM7 on one of my Friends Samsung Captivate and he loves it.
Looking forward to CM9 though I'm sure I'm going to need a newer phone to really enjoy it
Does Sense count as a ROM? I tought it was just a UI.
Anyway, I like CM, because of the themes support and the lots of tweaks it have.
OxygenMod on N1 is the current one i am using
I would say CM is my favorite ROM, but sometimes I like using Redemption whenever I'm in the mood to use SenseUI.
I'm a CM fan right now.
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Does Sense count as a ROM? I tought it was just a UI.
Anyway, I like CM, because of the themes support and the lots of tweaks it have.
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You are right Sense it's just a UI but there are two kind of roms, Sense based and AOSP such as CM.
CM mod the best favorite
Im wondering something, is what makes CM so popular the extra settings that they add? because if its the home that can easily be downloaded onto any other ROM and customized (ADW Launcher, Launcher Pro, etc...)
I love both types but I'm leaning a little more towards AOSP (CM)
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I'm a CM fan right now.
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+1 I Love this mod
CM7 rules my phone.
Sense is my favorite
I held for 2 months, Speed Blur and I found myself very well ...
Board to try to get an idea ..
lg optimus 3 better 3d than htc evo 3d?
Can somebody tell me thats right?
Checkrom
I want to start of by saying I mean no disrespect to all the devs/cooks here. I appreciate and love all of their hard work.
Now, after flashing countless amounts of roms/kernels and always having some type of problems like GPS, small mms, random force closes, etc. I went back to complelty stock and wow... My phone is smoother than I ever remembered. My data speeds seem a little faster and GPS locks on faster than ever. Battery life is a LITTLE worse than custom roms but I figure I spend less trying with the screen on trying to get stuff to work so it evens out.
Well I just thought I would share my experience. If you are like me ALWAYS trying to find the perfect Rom/kernel combo that just works, then try stock one more time. It just might surprise you
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Been reading alot about the whole process of rooting and flashing over the last few days, and I must say I join your conclusion somehow. Instead of seaching for minor improvement that sometimes set you back in other fields, why not just use the Stock options that the producer can stand by.
Even so I can totally understand the willingness to try and make a product better, and understanding it in the best possible way. That beeing said, I hope they still continue the great work with making custom roms to further push the limits of our device.
Hansge.
If you're happy with the factory ROM, then a custom one isn't necessarily better. One of the things I like about Android though is the freedom to use my phone the way I want to, and that includes custom ROMs if one better suits my requirements. It's all about choice.
most people simply want to remove the BLOAT that comes with stock roms so basically once you receive the opportunity to root you simply freeze the BLOAT with titanium backup and keep the stock rom. I personally like AOSP and most phones don't come with AOSP out of the box unless it's a Nexus so I always end up flashing a custom rom. But I can say that I was running CM7 on my Sensation and became sick of the browser freezes and I went back to stock for a few days and LOVED it eventhough I hate HTC Sense LOL it was just nice to have a phone in which EVERYTHING worked as
it was intended
I personally think a custom kernel has more influence on daily use then custom rom. The differnce between zram and no zram where huge for me on gingerbread.
Custom isn't for everyone
The stock ROMs are usually the best option for most users. Pretty much the same as any custom vs. stock situation. My co-worker is using a ROM that blocks all data usage except from the browser. He loves it. His battery lasts two days without effort and he doesn't miss a thing. Personally, I'd go nuts if that was the stock ROM, but it is good for him.
Have to agree that it's really about choice.
If the missing features are ones you never use then you haven't really lost anything.
I had my Sensation running on a custom ROM within hours of buying it and I've never looked back (though that may be to my disadvantage since I have no point of comparison).
xdacbibbs said:
The stock ROMs are usually the best option for most users. Pretty much the same as any custom vs. stock situation. My co-worker is using a ROM that blocks all data usage except from the browser. He loves it. His battery lasts two days without effort and he doesn't miss a thing. Personally, I'd go nuts if that was the stock ROM, but it is good for him.
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You could create a situation like that by rooting and setting up DroidWall.
I too agree with RestInPieces209.
Really love what the cookers here on xda are doing though!
Tried several custom roms and there always were a couple functions that weren't working properly. Now, since one week back on stock and S-on, most stable and complete rom there is. Eagerly waiting for ICS
if it wasnt for these roms... i would get to damn bored of my phone really quickly... would spend a lot of money buying a new phone as soon as im bored with it..
I can bare the small errors i get, fc etc.. as soon as its up to date, new improvements both visually and functionality. i mean, i got beats on my sensation (non XE) it looks good to have, but also better sound. I got original 1.5Ghz dual core instead of downclocked (by HTC) 1.2GHz... i still got approx 30-40hrs of battery. and thats good!
i can only praise custom roms! thanks devs!
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HTC arent dumbasses themselfs - they know how to make a great phone. they make phones they think as many as possible would like - with all their criteria; stability, good battery, performance etc. By trying to fullfill everyones wishes, somethings are being sacrificed ( such as 1.5GHz for better battery).
Thats why custom roms exists, so you can adapt the phone to your needs...
I would agree with the OP so far in terms of my Sensation, but my previous phone (ZTE Blade) was MASSIVELY improved with custom ROMs.
Some people are obsessed with perpetually messing about with their toys, regardless of the benefits/hassles. Almost always men.
Also, I guess that as phones (fancy ones such as the Sensation) get fancier and faster, so the law of diminishing returns applies regarding tweaks.
It boils down to preference really. Installing roms from other phones or customized ones so you can enjoy the full experience of your phone is just a choice. Like I the stock rom on the Sensation but then they came out with the Sensation XE with beats audio and I love to listen quality music. So then that rom was perfect for me.. My .02 cents.
championadam said:
I would agree with the OP so far in terms of my Sensation, but my previous phone (ZTE Blade) was MASSIVELY improved with custom ROMs.
Some people are obsessed with perpetually messing about with their toys, regardless of the benefits/hassles. Almost always men.
Also, I guess that as phones (fancy ones such as the Sensation) get fancier and faster, so the law of diminishing returns applies regarding tweaks.
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I agree. My old phones like the og droid, Eris, D2 global, etc were all improved with roms. But htc did a really good job on the sensation. After flashing the stock Rom and installing 2 ota updates that they have released it is smooth as butter. Even texting this message on my phone seems faster and more accurate than I ever remember.
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Not to mention the legendary HD2... From boring windows 6.5 to android to windows 7.5 mango... That's when I got hooked
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It honestly boils down to pure preference. Specifically for the Sensation, most people like custom ROMS because they hate HTC Sense. So they are willing to deal with FC's and less stable ROMS just so they can never see Sense again
Since I cannot stand the sense ui yes, custom romd are better. I have no issues with cyanogen mod. I suppose I could always use stock rooted and a custom launcher though.
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Custom ROMS are basically for people that want something different on their phone. Stock ROMS are reliable, stable, and provide default phone usage. On the other hand, stock ROMS (depending on what the developer has done to it) can change the way things looks, are, feel, and work. Some also have the capability to make your battery life last longer than the stock ROM. Custom ROMS are better or suck compared to stock ROMS in their own ways. It's just up to you, to decide which ROM fits your needs and expectations. Developers have this thing called a changelog that lists EVERYTHING that they have tweaked, changed, or improved since they created the ROM. It's best to look at and read it, to see if you like what they did to it/changed, or what it makes your phone capable to do. To me, it's all about what you REALLY want on your phone and all about researching the custom ROMS.
Hope I helped even a little. PEACE!
I am starting to understand why...but there are so many options...
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First of all you have to try all roms and then go for the best one and the one who fits better to you... I can't say how to do it... Everyone is different
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all rom's on xda are cool!¨
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
Well here are some preferences of mine...Perhaps you can narrow down three or four first choices.
Well I would not know the difference between sense based and not right now, so probably should aim to get close to it and slowly experiment outwards...
I want completely stable, the xe is fast enough so don't need faster (for now) but I do want themes capability. I like a very personalized interface. And ideally would rather make my own, but doubt I could without software for that like I had on my K77i.
I don't particularly care about popular, but I suppose popular does indicate stability and or other major benefits. I would not risk a new ROM I think.
I use mine, for everything, much more than calls and texts, and would use it to read a lot. So in that sense I do need low power consumption. Movies mostly at night with lowest brightness, but some times videos during the day too, such as exercise programs...
I hope not to catch a romming bug, I have had the phone only a few days and it's still not got all I want organized into it...It takes a lot of effort to set thing up right, at least for me, so I don't want to do that every couple of weeks...Mind you when I have the apps I want and calendar set up and what not I suppose that won't be so hard.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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if you're going for the ics aosp feel then you should try both hypernonsense and virtuous inquisition and then decide which one you want to keep
as someone already stated - you should ask yourself what do you really need and it should be easy then...
for instance i need a stable room,ics looks,everything working and as few system apps as possible(only those which are required for a rom to function properly),no live wallpapers,no unnecesary ringtones and simillar so i chose hypernonsense
cocoman93 said:
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
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HyperNonSense is everything Virtuous Inquisition is, but without all of the glitches and with significantly increased speed and fluidity.
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I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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So the actual CM9 builds aren't doing it for ya are they?
When choosing a ROM I typically look at the bug list first to see if there are any show stoppers then its on to the comments posted to see what the general consensus of the ROM is.
Really though, I do a lot of sampling to get a feel for what ROMs I like best and narrow it down to just a few then flash between them depending on mood really and whether or not I feel like running AOSP or Sense based.
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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This guide is one of the best ones I've seen (it is specific for arhd but steps are basically the same for all roms with ics base):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
It.is scary at first bit once you do it once it becomes a lot easier. Just take your time the first time, double check you've got the correct files, and then take a deep breath. LOTS of people have done it and I'm sure you'll be just fine.
-- Zeustopher
from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA
Apparently that is a very god guide, flashed with success, though I am having troubles with it, not aside from the fact that Titanium has been giving me issue hanging lots on certain installs, and now certain games crash upon loading past the main screen. and other games I now have touch issues, randomly it seems as it seems to freeze control for a few seconds.
ANd I am right in understanding now that my firmware is upto date I ca flash any ICS based rom?
I think it was the firmware issue that I missed in the hypernonsense rom thread, and that is why it banjaxed things to bits...
I am still looking at other roms bbig time like, I want go launcher as my base and I think the ICS base takes up far far too much space, I am getting lag with ARHD and not even all of my things are back in place.
The other issue I have is now I need to clean up my phone, 16gb card and I have barely 2gb left for all the different back ups...I only have 4gb or so in my documents folder which is where I keep nearly everything from pictures, music, videos and ebooks etc...
I think it will be easy enough to clean up some things, But for those apps that persistently bother me, Is there a good clean up tool, for destroying apps, plus data???Preferably a super user app with batch automation???
Zeustopher said:
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
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Thank you for the detailed info. I appreciate it. Helped me understand things a little bit better, since I am new to all this.:good:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
wjdijkstra said:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
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Wow you are spot on!
I thought of recommending you cm10.1 kang or something.. But the good camera won't be a pass in this (hands down sense 3.6 camera is the best).. So your choice is perfect except you'll miss the latest version of android (jellybean)
Btw you should use sultans sense kernel as hyper non sense is still sense based but 99% sense stuff removed
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