Just got the n4 today. My Nokia wireless charger works fine.
You can buy it at Att or Verizon or Tmobile I'm guessing.
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ajftl said:
Just got the n4 today. My Nokia wireless charger works fine.
You can buy it at Att or Verizon or Tmobile I'm guessing.
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One thing to be aware of, I tried a Nokia DT-900 at my local Verizon store. Had the same exact experience outlined here.
Yea just a little bit. No big deal
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Yea just a little bit. No big deal
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Just a little bit of what? Disconnect/reconnect shenanigans?
if nokia's newest charging stand works (which it should) i'll probably get that one Here
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if nokia's newest charging stand works (which it should) i'll probably get that one Here
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Exactly what I'm thinking. Haven't found anywhere online with them in stock though. Amazon, T-Mobile, and AT&T all list it as backordered or something similar. My corporate discount gets 25% off at Verizon, but they only have the flat one right now, sadly.
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Yea just a little bit. No big deal
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so it doesnt work? Disconnecting randomly isnt doing what its supposed to do. I dont consider it working unless it works like normal.
I bought the JBL PowerUp speaker, also made for the lumia... Same issue with disconnecting. (( I'm so frustrated.
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im wondering if maybe using a high power (2-3 amp) USB adapter would make a difference.. like the ipad charger
amperage too low?
I'm hardly an engineer, but the specs say the DT-900 is only 300ma. Maybe that's causing the problem with the N4.
I tired both the Nokia puck and the JBL speakers in a Verizon store. Both had the infamous charging/not charging problem.
It's a no-go for either I'm afraid. I can assume the same for the Fatboy pillow too...
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Why is the thread titled "Nokia wireless charging works." If it doesn't? :screwy:
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The charger works perfectly fine, you just have to make sure that the nexus 4 isn't sliding off because of the glass back. That'd what was causing it to connect/disconnect for me. Works great after I just put a piece of microfiber cloth on it before laying the phone down.
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Droidz said:
The charger works perfectly fine, you just have to make sure that the nexus 4 isn't sliding off because of the glass back. That'd what was causing it to connect/disconnect for me. Works great after I just put a piece of microfiber cloth on it before laying the phone down.
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PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
I tired it in the store including holding it still and steady in every position imaginable and I still got the charging on and off cycling of doom.
So seriously, please post photos or a video.
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yes, i would love if you can prove that it works.... i can pick up a nokia charger on the cheap..
I wonder if it makes a difference that he is using the dock as opposed to the pad? Thoughts
I've seen it mentioned that the reliability of the charging depends on whether NFC is turned on or off. Think it was mentioned by someone on Engadget. Not sure how that would affect the Qi charging, but worth a shot I suppose.
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I've seen it mentioned that the reliability of the charging depends on whether NFC is turned on or off. Think it was mentioned by someone on Engadget. Not sure how that would affect the Qi charging, but worth a shot I suppose.
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Hmm... I'll try this when I get home. Odd.. But I'll still try it.
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I said: PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! (Or video, lol)
Can anyone post some visual proof before people run out to get this thing, spend their cash and find out they got trolled...
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Love how " Droidz" disappeared when asked to take a pic/video as proof since everyone else had experienced the disconnect/connect issue... So I call bull until he provides proof. Don't waste you time or cash until he does.
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Guys, it very may work for Droidz, if you read The Verge's report you will notice that the charging issue seems to not affect ALL Nexus 4's, read below is an excerpt from The Verge's article
""The Nexus 4 and the Nokia DT-900 are supposed to properly work together," says Menno Treffers, chairman of the Wireless Power Consortium. Indeed, not everyone is having trouble pairing the Nexus 4 to the DT-900: Engadget reported success, for instance. But a single bad experience instills doubt in a standard that needs as much traction as it can get early on in the game."
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Hey, I thought my 1x was hot...but guess wat, at least it doesnt go up in flames~~. My **** is safe from being burned to ashes~
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79312161&utm_source
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Update. seems like it was from an external source that burned the phone. original user said it was his friend who thought microwaving a wet phone would be a good idea
I realy wish people would not speak about the S in this forum anymore.
This is HTC One X forum, let it burn.
HELLO
Laurentius26 said:
I realy wish people would not speak about the S in this forum anymore.
This is HTC One X forum, let it burn.
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hello
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hello
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wonderful first post
Wow..that is..disaster..
what is the cause of it?
I have to reconsider to buy this phone..
Freddy1X said:
Wow..that is..disaster..
what is the cause of it?
I have to reconsider to buy this phone..
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Heat from sun
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Heat from sun
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There is nothing to indicate the sun was involved. If I had to guess I'd say the dock he used in conjunction with his DC power outlet malfunctioned and overloaded the phone with current. Of course it doesn't say the dock was connected to power either but that scenario is much more likely taking into account the type of damage.
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Apparently nothing related with the sun, it simply exploded
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There is nothing to indicate the sun was involved. If I had to guess I'd say the dock he used in conjunction with his DC power outlet malfunctioned and overloaded the phone with current. Of course it doesn't say the dock was connected to power either but that scenario is much more likely taking into account the type of damage.
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TJBunch1228 said:
There is nothing to indicate the sun was involved. If I had to guess I'd say the dock he used in conjunction with his DC power outlet malfunctioned and overloaded the phone with current. Of course it doesn't say the dock was connected to power either but that scenario is much more likely taking into account the type of damage.
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wat dc power, it was in thr car, the car was parked..so i dont think it was charging. who knows, all we know is that samsungs flagship exploded while its main compettitors didnt
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found one as well
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i wonder what kind of dock was being used.
No dock apparently, read the article
I'm super curious as to how this could've happened. Perhaps Ford Focus cars and SGS3s have a tendency to repel each other?
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I'm super curious as to how this could've happened. Perhaps Ford Focus cars and SGS3s have a tendency to repel each other?
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nice one, gues the exynos is one hot b***h
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Kevin Ma said:
wat dc power, it was in thr car, the car was parked..so i dont think it was charging. who knows, all we know is that samsungs flagship exploded while its main compettitors didnt
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DC power from the car. The article doesn't specify whether it was plugged in or even if it was parked (or did I overlook something?), just saying it could have been a rogue car charger. Hell it may have just been what you think and the SIII gets way to hot, but there are too many variables left unanswered to make a definitive assessment.
Edit: I see where he says it wasn't charging now. Who knows man. Weird place for it to overheat though.
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so if possibile just overheat or what? =/ nono too much new and tecnlogy in this! someone intentional with like..cigarette lighter, some rich people do these things for fun, im happy for them XD
This is what happens when the Human Torch uses the phone to work :laugh::laugh:
hi, iam newbie. nice to meet u all
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hi, iam newbie. nice to meet u all
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You are way off topic.
BTW, back on topic, I think he was charging the phone?
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I found this one on amazon and I'm tempted by the price, has anyone bought this? Would it work with our phones? Or the touchstone?
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This has been discussed.
Do not order a touchstone charger, it won't work.
The LG one does. Mines on its way.
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The lg one is pretty cheap compared to other ones . was a bit skeptical. Can you confirm if it works when you get it? Either Here or through pm please a video would be nice.
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The lg one is pretty cheap compared to other ones . was a bit skeptical. Can you confirm if it works when you get it? Either Here or through pm please a video would be nice.
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There are numerous posts on XDA with people using them.
I would, however there's a thread that discusses the beeping from this unit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003137
People have confirmed it working there.
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I would, however there's a thread that discusses the beeping from this unit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003137
People have confirmed it working there.
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The same one pictured above in amazon?
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Wrong thread, but: How much energy will I loose, if I charge the phone wirelessly? Thx.
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Wrong thread, but: How much energy will I loose, if I charge the phone wirelessly? Thx.
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Don't know what you mean but its the same as charging through usb
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horr1blek1tten said:
The same one pictured above in amazon?
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I believe so.
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Wrong thread, but: How much energy will I loose, if I charge the phone wirelessly? Thx.
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I think these chargers can be UP TO 70% efficient.
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Wrong thread, but: How much energy will I loose, if I charge the phone wirelessly? Thx.
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I understand the Nexus 4 uses this chip, and the datasheet is here.
So, the receiver is about 90% efficient when charging. I am not sure, but as this is a charge controller too I think that quoted efficiency from page 12 is for the DC provided to the battery. This is quite good as obviously a non-wireless charge controller phone would have some losses when charging a battery.
I presume that by AC they mean from the wireless antenna rather than mains, so you would have to include the waste in the plug/transmitter too.
Edit: It looks like most of the losses are in the transmission, as the efficiency there is much lower. In that datasheet it suggests more like 72-74% maximum, which is about right if the manufacturers quote 70%.
Check this one out guys. Looks quite nice and seems to have a rubbery surface to prevent the phone from slipping.
http://www.philips.co.uk/c/cell-phone-accessories/dlp7210b_10/prd/
They sell it on amazon.de but don't seem to ship to Denmark
Found it on ebay for £37 here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Philips-D...degeräte_Dockingstationen&hash=item27cce3049d
Just bought it from the above seller. Will post about it when I receive it and let everyone know what it is like
jimmygoska said:
This has been discussed.
Do not order a touchstone charger, it won't work.
The LG one does. Mines on its way.
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Link?
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Link?
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Look through the wireless charging orb thread it's stated throughout
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Hey, I have received an Energizer mat and can confirm that it does indeed work with no hiccups. Only problem is that the glass back makes the phone very slippery on the matte-like finish on the Mat. Until I figure out a way to make it stay it's pretty much a nuisance and not usable.
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Hey, I have received an Energizer mat and can confirm that it does indeed work with no hiccups. Only problem is that the glass back makes the phone very slippery on the matte-like finish on the Mat. Until I figure out a way to make it stay it's pretty much a nuisance and not usable.
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Just find an invisible shield on clearance (designed for some old junker phone) and stick it on the surface of the charger.
No slip.
Ronislike said:
Hey, I have received an Energizer mat and can confirm that it does indeed work with no hiccups. Only problem is that the glass back makes the phone very slippery on the matte-like finish on the Mat. Until I figure out a way to make it stay it's pretty much a nuisance and not usable.
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Did you pull off the clear film on the charging mat? That made mine sticky and it holds perfect.
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I bought the Panasonic tm101 in white so it was easier to see the phone in the dark and I don't have to position it.
The LG one works, but you'll have to open it up and destroy the speaker.
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The LG one works, but you'll have to open it up and destroy the speaker.
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Other then the sound does it work perfect?
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Ronislike said:
Hey, I have received an Energizer mat and can confirm that it does indeed work with no hiccups. Only problem is that the glass back makes the phone very slippery on the matte-like finish on the Mat. Until I figure out a way to make it stay it's pretty much a nuisance and not usable.
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I picked up the Energizer Qi mat also and can confirm it works great. What I did to keep the phone from sliding is went and purchased one of those cheap grippy dashboard mats for cars and stuck it into the charger. No more slippy slippy.
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I ordered the Infuse 4g dock from ATT for $5 shipped because it was supposedly a perfect fit for the Samsung Galaxy S3. However I sold my S3 for the Nexus.
To my pleasant surprise, the dock fits perfectly with the N4, maybe even a little snug when trying to take it back out.
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Hope y'all can find some for cheap!
Nice find.
$13.74 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Desktop-Infuse-charges-Galaxy/dp/B004WOBN3I
Haha... this will be my 3rd phone that I've used that dock for. Wonder if my $0.01 Infuse Desktop Dock will work as well.
Best investment ever.
Edit: Does sound out through USB work?
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Haha.... Wonder if my $0.01 Infuse Desktop Dock will work as well.
Edit: Does sound out through USB work?
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YES using it now
Anyone know of it will work with a think case?
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nah, I don't see it being able to with with any case
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$13.74 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Desktop-Infuse-charges-Galaxy/dp/B004WOBN3I
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this desktop dock is different from what is being talked about in the thread right?
because one of the reviews of the dock mentions how the S3 does not fit snug in the dock, can any one verify?
ksumanth said:
this desktop dock is different from what is being talked about in the thread right?
because one of the reviews of the dock mentions how the S3 does not fit snug in the dock, can any one verify?
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I'm talking about this car dock.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Vehicle-Navigation-Galaxy-Infuse/dp/B0098Q65B0/
I have no idea if the other one would work, but my guess is no
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I'm talking about this car dock.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Vehicle-Navigation-Galaxy-Infuse/dp/B0098Q65B0/
I have no idea if the other one would work, but my guess is no
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you can try something like this if you want to keep the case on.
http://imgur.com/a/W7B8v
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Zurginator said:
Haha... this will be my 3rd phone that I've used that dock for. Wonder if my $0.01 Infuse Desktop Dock will work as well.
Best investment ever.
Edit: Does sound out through USB work?
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how would the audio out from usb work if there is no accessory setting to set audio output?
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how would the audio out from usb work if there is no accessory setting to set audio output?
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Didn't know there wasn't one. This will be my first stock phone (whenever Google gets around to shipping....).
Is it charging? The Nexus 4 also fits the SGS2 car dock...like a glove. BUT its not charging it unfortunately. Strange.
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Does the infuse car dock charge the N4?
Looking at those pictures, do the mount points scratch the phone at all? Are the corners of the dock rubbery? Looks like a good option till some magnetic/wireless charging mounts come out (if ever!).
Where did u get that for 5$
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$13.74 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Desktop-Infuse-charges-Galaxy/dp/B004WOBN3I
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This dock does work as well, I had this for my Infuse. It isn't a tight fit, but the gap on each side of the phone is probably the thickness of a sheet of paper.
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Is it charging? The Nexus 4 also fits the SGS2 car dock...like a glove. BUT its not charging it unfortunately. Strange.
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Does it? Dam I just gave my dock away to :/
It's hard to believe it fits since all the dimensions are bigger on the nexus, maybe its because of the corners being more rounded on the nexus.
it was available for awhile from the att store before sd blew it up
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it was available for awhile from the att store before sd blew it up
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I ordered one and it was initially backordered and eventually canceled. Was hoping it would work with the N4, now it does, and I don't get one. :crying:
where for $5
I don't see it for $5? The links that are shared on here for $13 is for the desktop dock and not the car one. Car dock looks like it is $26-27 on amazon?
Does any one make one for the Nexus 4 yet?
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Does any one make one for the Nexus 4 yet?
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If anyone had seen one it probably would've been posted here.
From what I've seen most people are buying a case and/or extended battery.
I'm personally getting the Anker SlimAstro 3200mAh battery. Enough for >1 charge but not very bulky.
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I thought the battery was non removable
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http://www.amazon.com/SlimTalk-Exte...TF8&colid=3JV3M6BBIVSNO&coliid=I3SU5TRGE8UZYR
Your best bet. The battery is non removable. So, you can't uglify your phone by getting an extended battery+ case.
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I thought the battery was non removable
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It is removable. It's just not easily removable like a Galaxy nexus.
I imagine if demand is there, some companies could produce replacement rear doors for this phone that could house a larger battery. Would be sweet.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
Not the easiest most feasible thing to do.
i have scoured the internet to no avail on this... they still make them for iphone 3gs lol i had one and it was awesome i want one for this beast as well
Power bank makes cases for everything I bet we will see one
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Someone need to make a case that holds a removable extended battery and an SD card much like the http://www.iexpander.com/ for the iPhone 5.
There is a different type of battery case that hopefully will be made for Nexus 4's. It's technically an external battery that doubles as a case. I think that's what most of the people on this thread (including me) is looking for.
PowerSkin Pop'n
ladygagadisco said:
There is a different type of battery case that hopefully will be made for Nexus 4's. It's technically an external battery that doubles as a case. I think that's what most of the people on this thread (including me) is looking for.
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Something like this? http://www.power-skin.com/battery-cases/popn/popn-charger.php
It's not quite a case, but similar and allegedly compatible with the Nexus 4. I have one on the way and will be testing it out soon. It appears that it will block the camera and/or flash though, so that is a downside to this sort of a solution.
My impressions and some photos are available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38161831&postcount=20
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Does any one make one for the Nexus 4 yet?
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something like this? Unfortunately there is nothing like this available for the Nexus 4 yet.
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exactly the type of thing i want for my nexus 4
...
I made a BIG portable (10000mAH) battery. when I go on a trip I will take it with my nexus 4
I doubt it nexus phones have a short shelf life, compared to galaxies I'm making my own battery case with a 3d printer
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Short shelf life? The Nexus S got Jelly Bean, that's better than any other phone of its generation, and better than some of the next one (*cough*HTC*cough*).
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I doubt it nexus phones have a short shelf life, compared to galaxies I'm making my own battery case with a 3d printer
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ironically they made the battery case for the nexus s and galaxy nexus but not the most successful nexus...maybe the previous ones didnt sell well so they are hesitant.
I'm betting we will get one soon
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Maybe we should start contacting all the battery case makers show them we are interested
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Something like this? http://www.power-skin.com/battery-cases/popn/popn-charger.php
It's not quite a case, but similar and allegedly compatible with the Nexus 4. I have one on the way and will be testing it out soon. It appears that it will block the camera and/or flash though, so that is a downside to this sort of a solution.
My impressions and some photos are available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38161831&postcount=20
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Wow, thanks for the heads up on this. Expensive, but a nice solution.
So, my brother got one of these for a gift and after hearing the little thing I couldn't not post a review. This thing has some MASSIVE sound for its size, crisp highs and lows with surprising base. It even has a separate bottom facing woofer, which is rare for this kind of speaker. Build quality is really quite good, and its nice and heavy. Very little interference and doesn't distort until you really crank it up. So, I know this isn't strictly related to the N4, but to any of you who want a small speaker, grab one of these.
Here's the amazon link http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008PJ93YC/ref=aw_cr_item_title
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So, my brother got one of these for a gift and after hearing the little thing I couldn't not post a review. This thing has some MASSIVE sound for its size, crisp highs and lows with surprising base. It even has a separate bottom facing woofer, which is rare for this kind of speaker. Build quality is really quite good, and its nice and heavy. Very little interference and doesn't distort until you really crank it up. So, I know this isn't strictly related to the N4, but to any of you who want a small speaker, grab one of these.
Here's the amazon link http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008PJ93YC/ref=aw_cr_item_titleView attachment 1623047
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I just bought this http://tinyurl.com/bjzjx88 and I'm a Lil disappointed I think I may give this lil guy a try
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DowntownJeffBrown said:
I just bought this http://tinyurl.com/bjzjx88 and I'm a Lil disappointed I think I may give this lil guy a try
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Let me know how u like it when u get one, also take in mind it was 70$ originally
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I bought a similar one from CVS for $10, 1/2 off $20. Its an iHome wireless speaker and came with a nice carrying bag. Sound is decent and sounds more fuller but my n4 has the same volume. Same one here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008BGY0E2/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1357522414&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
Do you know how they would compare?
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jt.61 said:
I bought a similar one from CVS for $10, 1/2 off $20. Its an iHome wireless speaker and came with a nice carrying bag. Sound is decent and sounds more fuller but my n4 has the same volume. Same one here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008BGY0E2/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1357522414&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
Do you know how they would compare?
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Not sure since I've never heard it, but based on the price I'd say that it would generally not sound as good. However, I live to be proven wrong on these kinds of things haha.
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cyanogendroid said:
Not sure since I've never heard it, but based on the price I'd say that it would generally not sound as good. However, I live to be proven wrong on these kinds of things haha.
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Maybe I'll buy it to compare and keep the better one.
I found this on phandroid and it looks awesome
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/14/android-robot-speaker-palbot-review/
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I got hdmx jam wireless Bluetooth speaker from amazon for about 35$ its really great. Its louder and has clever packaging
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