External DAC - Nexus 4 Accessories

Hey guys.
Been using my Nexus 4 for the past day and almost everything about it is great.
My only complaint so far? Volume out through the headphone jack is rather weak compared to my old S3 with modified sound files.
I'm thinking about using an external DAC to circumnavigate this issue. Anyone have any experience with DACs working with Android?
Thanks

bscotth said:
Hey guys.
Been using my Nexus 4 for the past day and almost everything about it is great.
My only complaint so far? Volume out through the headphone jack is rather weak compared to my old S3 with modified sound files.
I'm thinking about using an external DAC to circumnavigate this issue. Anyone have any experience with DACs working with Android?
Thanks
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If volume is your issue, why not just an amp? It would be easier (theoretically) to find a great, compact headphone amp than a DAC+amp in the same housing.
However, RSA(a highly reputable brand in audiophile circles) has a portable DAC+amp here: http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/intruder . I don't know for sure if it works with Android, but:
A. I don't see why not with USB Host
B. Couldn't hurt to ask.

abe in space said:
If volume is your issue, why not just an amp? It would be easier (theoretically) to find a great, compact headphone amp than a DAC+amp in the same housing.
However, RSA(a highly reputable brand in audiophile circles) has a portable DAC+amp here: http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/intruder . I don't know for sure if it works with Android, but:
A. I don't see why not with USB Host
B. Couldn't hurt to ask.
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I'm interested in getting something that I could use on more than just my phone so I figured I might as well get a DAC.

It did not work on 4.1 from what I heard and I have not heard about Google fixing it for 4.2 either. Jelly Bean does support USB audio but the support is very limited.
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You should write and ask the guys at HRT (High Resolution Technologies) about their USB DAC. They had one that worked for the iphone connection so chances are that it should work. I'm getting one if it does, so please post your answer.

http://www.fiio.com.cn/product/index.aspx?ID=42&MenuID=020302
The best IMO.

You might check hydrogen audio forum and head-fi. I did a quick search.
list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note II:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums...2&pid=812664&mode=threaded&start=#entry812664
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634048/google-nexus-4
http://www.head-fi.org/t/582179/samsung-galaxy-nexus/240#post_8874917

Well guys, it seems a USB DAC will be impossible for the time being. There appears to be no USB OTG support while rocking the stock setup. The best I can do is use a headphone amp so far. The only downside I foresee is that I hear double amp'ing isn't too great of an idea.

If I remember correctly, the Nexus 7 supports DAC's when rooted and with some work-arounds. So I don't think it's impossible for it to work with the N4.

An amp works if all you want is volume and a little cleaner sound.
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I just tried using a slimport adapter connected to an audio receiver through HDMI. Through the audio jack I normally get lots of fuzz but it seems that using slimport the internal amp and DAC are bypassed. Thus the audio quality is much better and I cannot hear any fuzz. Can everyone else with an adapter try it out and share your results?
Since the use of normal USB DACs with the N4 is not very practical, Im thinking this would be a great way to connect a DAC.
We just need someone to produce a DAC for slimport devices. (It doesn't even require rooting!)

I've been pretty happy using a relatively cheap Fiio E5 headphone amp, but I've been considering upgrading to an E17 DAC. Would be great to know if/how well DAC's work on the N4 (or any other Android phone, for that matter)

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[Q] Working headphone adapters

i have the akg k370 whcih dont work with my SGS, since the order of the pins is differend (mic and ground are switched).
since i love that headset im looking for a working adaptor
i couldnt find any in the internet
so far i managed to solder my own from an old adapter which didnt use its microphone pin.
but since it looks...lets say...selfcrafted im looking for one that works that u dont have to cut open and change the pins your self (or add a wire as i did)
if u know of any working ones which use all 4 pins and switch ground and mic pls tell me where i can buy em...
Similar issue here. I have Dr. Dre Beats and from what I've found from reading through is that I need to switch the ground/mic wires? I can do this if necessary and can even get a nice job done of it, but wouldn't this break my headset for other phones/players?
Point being a nice adapter would be sweet.
I bought this one, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290460258359&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Still waiting it gets here.
Surely if the ground connection was different then no standard plugs/phones would work or does the phone dynamically change the ouputs on pins depending on what's plugged in (since it has to support tv out as well)?
hanhav said:
I bought this one, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290460258359&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Still waiting it gets here.
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got the same ones, they work fine.
those adaptors and the nokia ones work, but they make the cable too long besides considering that the headsets mentioned already has a mic and you add another adaptor mith a mic, its simpler to just have an adaptor that switches the mic and ground terminals around
so what i did is i made this
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i took my nokia ad-57 adaptor, cut the wire, cannibalized a female 3.5mm 4pole from some generic adaptor, soldered the wire so that ground from the 3.5male is soldered to the second ring from tip. thus, simply, the female of the adaptor is wired like an iphone compatible, and the male is wired galaxy s compatible.
if you cant be bothered to diy, you can get this http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
but at 18$ plus shipping, i just think it is too expensive, lol
Another adapter.It's the same as yours but is way too expensive too http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
The good thing is that it's premade. No soldering and cutting
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Another adapter.It's the same as yours but is way too expensive too http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
The good thing is that it's premade. No soldering and cutting
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Does the mic and button work fine?
gave up on the idea about making a lead when the price is under a fiver
bought the £4.75 set purely on looks but also waiting on a SE MW600
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/JuicyBits-Online/_i.html?_nkw=i9000+headset&submit=Search&_sid=1003938103
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Another adapter.It's the same as yours but is way too expensive too http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
The good thing is that it's premade. No soldering and cutting
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damn, that's expensive. but I guess it'll be worth it to make my "expensive" headphones work, lol.
i found one on DX, comes with MIC so you can asnwer the phone and listen without taking out the headphones
waiting for it to arrive and test to see if it's compatible with SGS
I had to stick black tape around my mic button on the headphones I used to use on my iPhone, I kept the same headphones cause they were amazing sound and pricey and didn't want to chuck them away, Didn't realize it would be a problem lol, I want one of these adapters from a Uk store
Ordered an adapter from KVConnection, works like a charm! I think it's worth the price, considering I didn't have the time/tools/parts to make this by myself.
JTH81 said:
Ordered an adapter from KVConnection, works like a charm! I think it's worth the price, considering I didn't have the time/tools/parts to make this by myself.
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You can say that the adapter is good, perfect,excellent,nice,ok,etc but not worth at all 17$ for wires is pure stealing
I got a blackberry headset from my local street market. The earphones that came with it sound horrible, and the mic is a bit soft. There is no need to change anything however and the button works.
I'm planning on using it with the aux in of my car radio. With computer speakers it seemed to work (no echo). And it works well with a headphone.
JTH81 said:
Ordered an adapter from KVConnection, works like a charm! I think it's worth the price, considering I didn't have the time/tools/parts to make this by myself.
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Which headphones are you now using? Do they support media playback (next, previous, or volume) controls
I really want to know before I pay for the ripoff adapter from the kvs. Site. Thanks!
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Hmm... is it just me? My UE10Pro works fine with the SGS
er1cha said:
Which headphones are you now using? Do they support media playback (next, previous, or volume) controls
I really want to know before I pay for the ripoff adapter from the kvs. Site. Thanks!
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^^ what he said

earphone

hey guys, does the soundmagic mp21 mic works with samsung galaxy s? if not, any earphone with mic for recommendation?
thanks.
I hear that the klipsch s2m works for the sgs, but can't confirm it. You can always consider a transformer with mic, that you can use normal 3.5 plug instead of pin
Codeaction said:
I hear that the klipsch s2m works for the sgs, but can't confirm it. You can always consider a transformer with mic, that you can use normal 3.5 plug instead of pin
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I have Klipsch S2m and it works with my Vibrant so it must work with i9000.
Ow, great. Can you tell your experiens with them. What kind of sound works best for them and build quility?
Honestly, I am a wannabe audiophile. I am just starting to get into the world of audiophile. An audiophile friend of mine suggested it to me cuz it was on sale.
I would say the sound is pretty good. It is a direct sound and definitely not soft or anything. As far as calls go, I have good experience with these so I am pretty happy.
I don't have any problems with these so far so I think they are good.
good to hear cause I am also browsing around looking for a replacement ear/mic headset.
I do really hope this works for our SGS because this model Klipsch S2m is also listed in the apple store as iphone compatible. and to my knowledge iphone heatsets do not work with SGS.
so I'm a little confused ...
It is advertised as iPhone compatible but it does work with my vibrant... idk what is happening...
Actually, my friend said my phone would work before I bought it so...
Nokia AD-54 / HS-45 adaptor’s inline mic works on my international i9000GT, and many others have reported it working on other variants of Galaxy S.
IMO this is the best option right now because it lets you connect your own headphone .
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P.S : None of the call/media buttons work though..
Does anyone know of any good headset adapters that actually work?
I would use the Samsung stock headset but they HAD to be in-ear, I can't use in-ear because my ears block up easily.
I want something simple like the post above but I want one that has a functional media key.
Also, how do you guys SKIP SONGS?! D:
sturmeh said:
Does anyone know of any good headset adapters that actually work?
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Nokia one does . I am using it right now. But the buttons don't work (no media or call control)
sturmeh said:
Does anyone know of any good headset adapters that actually work?
I would use the Samsung stock headset but they HAD to be in-ear, I can't use in-ear because my ears block up easily.
I want something simple like the post above but I want one that has a functional media key.
Also, how do you guys SKIP SONGS?! D:
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Making things worse
Samsung's earphone sucks, even my $30 philips earphone do better than it
Zetalai said:
Making things worse
Samsung's earphone sucks, even my $30 philips earphone do better than it
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you can use any phones with nokia adaptors, but not iphone compatible phones.
the mic/ground terminals are not the same
i have a triplefi10vi and i had to make an adaptor to switch the ground and mic around for the inline mic to work
works fine and sound is definitely awesome
For those who are interested the Sennheiser MM50 for Nokia v2 work perfectly fine! Exactly like the MM50 for iPhones that I had before then.
I would post a link to what they look like but unfortunately I'm not allowed to!
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For those who are interested the Sennheiser MM50 for Nokia v2 work perfectly fine! Exactly like the MM50 for iPhones that I had before then.
I would post a link to what they look like but unfortunately I'm not allowed to!
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so the mic and all those buttons work as they used to?
Zetalai said:
so the mic and all those buttons work as they used to?
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They will work as intended. Pick up/drop a call, pause/play music and mic works as well, a mic really!
Only issue I have come across is with Froyo JP1/JP3/JPC, where if you keep pulling and plugging the earphones in, the buttons will not work as intended, but after you reset the phone it works as normal.
JPK seems to be working fine and Eclair on the other hand works perfectly fine!
Also there is only one button on this earphone.
Hi..
has anyone tested a Denon AH-C560R IEM? does the mic & remote function?
http://www.headphone.com/headphones/denon-ah-c560r.php
I'm planning to buy one since we cannot use normal earphones while calling.
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[Q] Is there a Wired Remote for DHD beside the lame one it comes with?

Apart from the very ordinary wired remote that comes with the DHD, does anyone know if there's another HTC or a third party wired remote that will work with the DHD?
I'm after something with music controls (back and forward, play / pause and of course volume control). Additionally being able to plug your own headphones in is a MUST.
The RC E100 (below) would be PERFECT, but it's not for the DHD (apparently?). Anyone successfully modded this for the DHD?
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+1 here. I dont know but by somehow the stock earphones come with the DHD are ********IT! Even worse than some non-branded 2nd earphones out there
I am really interested in a product like this. The oem earphone from the box is a joke.
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Yes, some more voices!
Surely there are more people who use their DHD to play music and surely they have their own headphones that are far superior in quality to the OEMs that come with the DHD.
I actually use two different pairs of headphones each day. A nice Sennheiser inner-ear ear bud pair, and an over the head "cup" pair by Audia-Technica. I use the ear buds when I'm out and on the go; walking, on the train, etc. I use the over the head pair when I'm sitting at the desk. So obviously the need for using your own 'phones is there.
If it's a matter of compatibility, surely the RC E100 can be used with our DHDs, right? I double checked and it can be used on the HTC Magic, which I had prior to the DHD! It uses a standard mini USB A connection. Different to the USB socket of the DHD, but I bet it can be modded.
yes please that would be great is someone can share his experience on any remote controls , been lookinf for some since aquite a while now
This might help: http://www.misco.co.uk/applications...-google-_-dig_cam-_-150731&CAWELAID=304715334
If I can find one cheap enough I'm willing to give it a go, Only 1 on ebay though and its £15.....
I read somewhere that one would need drivers too, as the RC E100 isn't made for the DHD.
Edit: But hey, if you can try it out for everyone that'd be mighty awesome of you.
Edit: Here's the official product page for the RC E100. Note that the DHD is not listed as supported. http://www.htc.com/hk-en/product/accessory/headset_rc-e100.html
Could just be a case of getting the pinout info for the dhd and matching it with a converter to the Hero? Ill have a further look and report back....
Anyone know where we get the software?
I just found this thread under the HTC Leo category: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594932
Also, over at HTCpedia, they have a page on the RC E100, and there's a link at the bottom to an adaptor that may work for it? See here: http://htcpedia.com/htc-rc-e100-remote-stereo-headset/reviews/accessories.html And here's the adaptor: http://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=231
Edit: The driver / sfotware can be obtained here: http://www.expansys.com.au/f.aspx?i=150187
I tried soldering a stereo mini-jack on to the supplied headset after cutting off the headphones. Should've worked, but my soldering skills are somewhat useless.
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This is what I use.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Headphone-Earphone-Mic-HTC-HD2-Pure-Snap-HD-Smart-/270783737034?pt=UK_Mobile_Home_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET&hash=item3f0bf7ecca
the included earphone is very good, much to my surprice and for £3.34 I think it is a bargain. you press once to pause and play, press twice to fast forward three times to backforward.
I am using CM7 rom and with Poweramp player. I've not check if it works with sense.
justj said:
This is what I use.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Headphone-Earphone-Mic-HTC-HD2-Pure-Snap-HD-Smart-/270783737034?pt=UK_Mobile_Home_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET&hash=item3f0bf7ecca
the included earphone is very good, much to my surprice and for £3.34 I think it is a bargain. you press once to pause and play, press twice to fast forward three times to backforward.
I am using CM7 rom and with Poweramp player. I've not check if it works with sense.
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Sorry if this is a really stupid question, just it doesn't say on the eBay page that it works for the DHD... So does it work with the DHD?
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Sorry if this is a really stupid question, just it doesn't say on the eBay page that it works for the DHD... So does it work with the DHD?
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As I said, I am using it on my DHD with CM7 nightly ROM and it work with PowerAMP. I don't use Sense Rom and its build-in player so I can't say if it will work for certain. I can't see why not but it is for you to find out.
The only down side I can think of is that there is no valume control on this remote.
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I just found this thread under the HTC Leo category: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594932
Also, over at HTCpedia, they have a page on the RC E100, and there's a link at the bottom to an adaptor that may work for it? See here: http://htcpedia.com/htc-rc-e100-remote-stereo-headset/reviews/accessories.html And here's the adaptor: http://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=231
Edit: The driver / sfotware can be obtained here: http://www.expansys.com.au/f.aspx?i=150187
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Did anyone tried this solution yet ?
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Did anyone tried this solution yet ?
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The HTC YCA300 is another ExtUSB breakout adaptor the same as the RCE100. Only it doesn't have controls.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=171922
The first issue that would need to be overcome is that the adapters are ExtUSB whereas the DHD is MicroUSB.
Even if an adapter could be used to convert Female MiniUSB/ExtUSB to Male MicroUSB then the chances are that it wouldn't work straight off and would require that driver - but again there's no guarantee that it would work with the DHD...
http://www.jabra.com/sites/mobile/na-us/products/pages/jabrabt3030.aspx
that's what i use. basically it's a remote for my phone. If i've got my earphones plugged into the DHD while the bluetooth thing is connected, the sound still goes through the audio jack of the dhd, so it really only acts as a remote for me.
peter9991 said:
http://www.jabra.com/sites/mobile/na-us/products/pages/jabrabt3030.aspx
that's what i use. basically it's a remote for my phone. If i've got my earphones plugged into the DHD while the bluetooth thing is connected, the sound still goes through the audio jack of the dhd, so it really only acts as a remote for me.
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Shame it's not a wired remote, as using Bluetooth is another battery drain the DHD certainly doesn't need.
would this work as an adapter ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-USB-...ssories_RL&hash=item483d2e8ed9#ht_2777wt_1089
No, because that usb port is incompatible with desire hd.
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No, because that usb port is incompatible with desire hd.
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ok thanks , can you point us out to a good quality and compatible remote controller ??

Bluetooth audio to 2 devices

I heard that we'll be able to stream audio 2 pairs of Bluetooth headphones at once.
I've assume this will also be true for Bluetooth speakers such as the ones we're getting free in the UK?
But does that free Samsung Level Box Slim speaker pair with multiple devices? Obviously not for streaming from 2 phones at once if you get what I'm saying?
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nope. The S8/S8+ are the only phones on the market with Bluetooth version 5.0, which enables the ability to stream audio to 2 separate devices. Most devices that pair to phones, can only be paired to 1 phone at a time, which is unfortunate. Really wish I could have 2 phones paired with my bluetooth headset for work and personal phones =-=.
Mkbhd just did a video on bluetooth 5 on the s8, its removed now, but its not like he controlled the audio to each speaker separately he was just playing the same tune to both at the same time. Not sure what the purpose of that is or if its that impressive.
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Mkbhd just did a video on bluetooth 5 on the s8, its removed now, but its not like he controlled the audio to each speaker separately he was just playing the same tune to both at the same time. Not sure what the purpose of that is or if its that impressive.
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I could see this being nice for having kids use the phone instead of a Y headphone plug, but use bluetooth headsets for the same songs, or video, etc.
I'm sure there are other instances, but for me personally it's kind of a worthless feature.
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nope. The S8/S8+ are the only phones on the market with Bluetooth version 5.0, which enables the ability to stream audio to 2 separate devices. Most devices that pair to phones, can only be paired to 1 phone at a time, which is unfortunate. Really wish I could have 2 phones paired with my bluetooth headset for work and personal phones =-=.
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I wasnt thinking about having 2 devices connected at the same time more how many devices those speakers can be paired to without having to go through the whole pairing process again? For example my car can have up to 6 phones paired with it making it simple to swap which one it is using. If that makes sense?
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I could see this being nice for having kids use the phone instead of a Y headphone plug, but use bluetooth headsets for the same songs, or video, etc.
I'm sure there are other instances, but for me personally it's kind of a worthless feature.
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I will end up with 2 of these speakers in my house so being able to use both playing the same music in the garden sounds quite appealing!
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I wasnt thinking about having 2 devices connected at the same time more how many devices those speakers can be paired to without having to go through the whole pairing process again? For example my car can have up to 6 phones paired with it making it simple to swap which one it is using. If that makes sense?
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yea I know what you mean. Thats a feature that I would imagine they would be highlighting as the main reason to buy the device. I dont see anything stating whether it has it or not, so chances are no. Like I said I am waiting for a bluetooth headset that can pair with my work phone and my personal phone at the same time.
This will be nice when I'm traveling with my girlfriend or with friends that have Bluetooth headphones. Sure you can use a headphone splitter but kind of restricts movement
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This will be nice when I'm traveling with my girlfriend or with friends that have Bluetooth headphones. Sure you can use a headphone splitter but kind of restricts movement
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Using this with headphones makes a bit more sense rather than speakers, but even 2 connections is still a bit of a limitation but still better than nothing i guess.
Anyone know if the 2 streams have a way to balance latency between each device?
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Headphones and Adapters Sound Issues.

Hi, for anyone who has weak and low sound with headphones on our beloved Mi A2.
I have tried most of the cheap and expensive headphones that the majority of people can buy.
And the best one out there for the value of great sound and money is the one i have mentioned below. I bought for 15$ in Iraq.
This headphones just KILLS it .
Huwawei Classic Earphones USB-C Edition
Model : CM33
Ps. Not a commercial or anything, just an average users review.
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@Ahmedstarr93 Are you on the latest Android Pie stable ROM?
have you tried the active noise cancellation from huawei?
I was on oneplus 3 previously and was using audiotechnica earphones which used to work great for my personal use. With MI A2 the problem is the USB c to headphone adapter. The sound quality gets degraded a lot due to it. I'm still looking for alternative USB c earphones. The one you mention I can't find them in India e-commerce site.
Does any fellow India direct me towards good USB c earphones which one can buy in India?
anshmiester78900 said:
I was on oneplus 3 previously and was using audiotechnica earphones which used to work great for my personal use. With MI A2 the problem is the USB c to headphone adapter. The sound quality gets degraded a lot due to it. I'm still looking for alternative USB c earphones. The one you mention I can't find them in India e-commerce site.
Does any fellow India direct me towards good USB c earphones which one can buy in India?
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Just buy Google pixel dongle. Or you can by hidizs sonata dac from AliExpres (better than pixel dongle). No USB C headphone is better than your audio Technica one at this moment.
U may try type c pixel ear buds! Available through Flipkart!
r_kalar_2 said:
Just buy Google pixel dongle. Or you can by hidizs sonata dac from AliExpres (better than pixel dongle). No USB C headphone is better than your audio Technica one at this moment.
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I agree that any good jack headphone is better than most bluetooth ones. And also better than many c-type headphones.
I think that if you already own good headphones, is better (and cheaper) to buy a DAC dongle. I'm sure that hidizs sonate is great. I haven't tested it.
I can recommend Venture Odyssey DAC. Is very cheap and it sounds really great with our A2. Its signal to noise ratio is worse than hidizs's (113 vs 98 dB), but it is way cheaper.
The thing is that the combination of A2 DAC plus the passive USB-C dongle provided with the A2 sounds awful. Things are way better with another DACs.
Best regards

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