Hi:
i bought a solar powered 4 port hub + otg cable..
using chainfires stickmount , this setup works perfect but
i search high and low :: why hasnt the hacker gurus replaced the F usb end
w/ a male micro end to eliminate one cable?
if i was smart, i wouldda ordered an extra otg cable and tried it..
the hub and cable took almost a month to get here so i cant just hackup the only cable i have
thanx
because otg cables are not designed to work only with the TP, but several devices, and since some of them send power thru otg, there is no need of powered hub.
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HPTP does require power to a hub , which i have.
i dont have any questions why.
my question is how.
i dont know what youre trying to say really.
I've been thinking of making just such a cable myself, if I'm right the TP end would need to have pins 4 and 5 shorted while the other end would be wired normally. I have a ZTE MF60 mobile wifi hotspot which also has a micro sd card slot and can be used as external storage but only wired, not wireless.
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I've been thinking of making just such a cable myself, if I'm right the TP end would need to have pins 4 and 5 shorted while the other end would be wired normally. I have a ZTE MF60 mobile wifi hotspot which also has a micro sd card slot and can be used as external storage but only wired, not wireless.
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going from a very vague memory, when they hack up cables it seems like ppl short out pins 4&5 on the other end (non touchpad) end .. i could not be anywhere atall sure about this tho... like the otg cable right out of the box,, does the female usb end have pins 4 and 5 shorted together?
so hptp side is non modified micro male end;
other end is modified mini male end..
i would be verry interested if this ever gets done..to shrink up cable clutter hugely .
thanx
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I've heard that the External USB Adapter from ASUS is a notoriously difficult beast to locate. It's marketed to plug into a bare tablet and provide a Host USB connector. But, would it also work in the charging port of the keyboard dock giving a second Host USB port? (Yes, I know a hub would do this. But If one wants this device to connect USB storage to a bare tablet, would it also do double duty and work with the dock?)
It certainly sounds possible. Mostly because I think the internals of the keyboard dock are a hub already basically.
One usb going to the card reader, one going to the usb port, one to the keyboard function, and another as a passthrough to the proprietary data port.
So by using the usb adapter you are just converting the otherwise unused data port into another usb port.
since there both 40 pin connecters i imagine that would work
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since there both 40 pin connecters i imagine that would work
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That is also my assumption, but we all know what assuming does. All depends if all the signals are passed through, and if there are any lag or transmission line issues.
Has anyone tried this to verify if it does or does not work?
Ok...so I have ordered 3 different adapters for my samsung galaxy note 10.1, ive tried it when it was rooted and on stock, nothing works, basically i get the usb adapter, plug it in, and the ps3 controller works for like 2 hours...then doesn't work on any of the adapters, it stops reading the ps3 controller and says its a high power device and that's it, , it think it stopped after the controller conected to the ps3 again? can someone please tell me what to do? ! im just fed up!
I use a USB OTG cable and find it only works with devices that don't require power from the USB to work. Maybe a ps3 controller needs an external power supply.
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I use a USB OTG cable and find it only works with devices that don't require power from the USB to work. Maybe a ps3 controller needs an external power supply.
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maybe, but it's so frustrating because i saw youtube tutorials and tutorials on here about what to do even with xbox controllers, im just having no luck with it at all, doesn't even allow me to do it wirelessly, but usb memory sticks work fine just the controllers...
I'm not sure if this would work but since you have got 3 cables experimenting with one wouldn't be a great loss...
Usb cables have 4 connections. 2 are data 1 is +5v and one ground -
If you cut about half way into one of your USB OTG cables and found the +5v and ground - cables and cut them so your tablet can't see a load then with another USB cable (male plug side only) connected the +5v and Ground - only to the female side of your USB OTG only so it could power the ps3 controller.
Then you would plug the extra USB plug into another USB socket like a PC or laptop or similar to power the ps3 controller.
Just an idea.
Edit: Or just find the red cable in one of your USB OTG cables and cut it. You will have to charge the usb controller another way though.
Your PS3 controller is attempting to charge its battery from the USB port/OTG connector. The port can only supply amperage for so long before protection circuitry kicks in and keeps itself from melting down. Atleast that's the way I would do it if I were an electrical engineer
Yes even data cards do not work
I find I can use memory sticks OK but anything that draws a lot of current gets the (in)famous "high power USB device" notification...
It's a pain in the bum as I would like my $600 Note to use the 1Tb NTFS drive my $400 A501 uses with no problem whatsoever...
Today there are whole host of usb powered devices some are good and some are cheap may be the concept Samsung had was to make sure some device does not pull power more then the tablet can provide and in turn does not overcook some of the components so that have built in a failsafe may be because the single port does multiple functions this has been provisioned
Yeah but when I used a powered HDD it fried not only my Note10.1 but also the portable HDD too... Not happy...
I think it killed the battery to be honest as it got REALLY hot and the battery dropped from almost fully charged to depleted in about 15 minutes... Also killed the digitiser but the pen still worked. Turned off and left overnight and tab was completely dead next morning....
Very expensive paper weight...:crying:
So I had to go out and get another one, this time 32gb 3g instead of 16gb (eating rice and tuna for the next month or 2)...
Won't be connecting another drive any time soon...
thanks
looking to go completely wireless with a hard drive for the note pro for movies, music, ebooks, etc. i bought a toshiba 500gb porta-harddrive (UNpowered) and a usb2 otg cable... but its not quite working because the drive doesn't pull enough power to run (it just sits there ticking). when i plug the drive into a powered usb hub and the hub into the otg, it works fine; but then i'm still tethered by the hub power cord.
anyone have a completely wireless setup that works and care to share what equipment they're using? i'm thinking a usb3 otg cable might do the trick, but haven't been able to find one locally, and want to be certain before dealing with the shipping hassle.
thanks,
-lq
The additional conductors added in the wider micro USB 3.0 cable are for data, not power. What you could do is get a USB battery...
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liquidquick said:
looking to go completely wireless with a hard drive for the note pro for movies, music, ebooks, etc. i bought a toshiba 500gb porta-harddrive (UNpowered) and a usb2 otg cable... but its not quite working because the drive doesn't pull enough power to run (it just sits there ticking). when i plug the drive into a powered usb hub and the hub into the otg, it works fine; but then i'm still tethered by the hub power cord.
anyone have a completely wireless setup that works and care to share what equipment they're using? i'm thinking a usb3 otg cable might do the trick, but haven't been able to find one locally, and want to be certain before dealing with the shipping hassle.
thanks,
-lq
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Take a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714838
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707375
I bought 4 port USB 3.0 Hub with external power 5V 3A.
Moodyboy
I have a Seagate GoFlex 1Tb hdd. I formated it exfat and it works fine with a mocro-USB 2.0 otg cable or with a new micro-USB 3.0 org cable. The NotePro has no problem powering it with either cable.
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I have a Seagate GoFlex 1Tb hdd. I formated it exfat and it works fine with a mocro-USB 2.0 otg cable or with a new micro-USB 3.0 org cable. The NotePro has no problem powering it with either cable.
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thanks for the response. two things:
1) can you look at the fcc sticker on the hard drive and tell me what the power draw is? it should say something like 5V+- XXX mA. i'm curious about how many amps it pulls. i think the problem with mine is that it lists 1000mA, which exceeds both usb2 (500mA) and usb3 (900mA) specs.
2) is your tablet rooted? not sure it matters, but i'm reading mixed opinions on the matter in the fora, and it might be a factor.
i've also formatted exfat and that didn't seem to fix it, and it works fine attached to a powered hub, so it looks like its a power issue.
thanks,
-lq
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The additional conductors added in the wider micro USB 3.0 cable are for data, not power. What you could do is get a USB battery...
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yes, but usb3 allows for more power to be drawn then usb2 according to the specs. turns out not enough for the hard drive either way unfortunately so the battery might be the way to go. would need a 'y' cable though since there is no power input for the hard drive.
now i'm thinking of just getting one of those hard drive/battery/wi-fi hotspot combos that seagate or corsair makes.
thanks
-lq
moodyboy said:
I bought 4 port USB 3.0 Hub with external power 5V 3A.
Moodyboy
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thanks for the links. by 'external power' i'm assuming you mean wired? not exactly what i'm looking for, though i have a wired hub that works... i'm just trying to find a completely wireless solution for when i go camping, etc.
-lq
liquidquick said:
thanks for the response. two things:
1) can you look at the fcc sticker on the hard drive and tell me what the power draw is? it should say something like 5V+- XXX mA. i'm curious about how many amps it pulls. i think the problem with mine is that it lists 1000mA, which exceeds both usb2 (500mA) and usb3 (900mA) specs.
2) is your tablet rooted? not sure it matters, but i'm reading mixed opinions on the matter in the fora, and it might be a factor.
i've also formatted exfat and that didn't seem to fix it, and it works fine attached to a powered hub, so it looks like its a power issue.
thanks,
-lq
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1. Power draw is not listed on my HDD. The part number is 9ZF2N5-501 1 TB if that helps. The only connector is theUSB 3 connector, no seperate power input.
2. No, my NotePro is not Rooted.
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thanks for the links. by 'external power' i'm assuming you mean wired? not exactly what i'm looking for, though i have a wired hub that works... i'm just trying to find a completely wireless solution for when i go camping, etc.
-lq
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I'm interested keep me posted
My two setups
Seagate wireless plus 1Tb
As long as the battery of the hdd has enough power to maintain its wifi service this is the absolutely no wires solution. Easy to operate but slow in terms of data transfer. Fast enough to watch Hd-video though.
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EasyACC powerpack 10000mA
Toshiba STOR.E basic 500gb ext. USB hdd
In this setup there are cables.
Powerpack to connectorä
Hdd to connector
Connector to Note
Advantage of this setup is that I can read sd Card, connect USB stick, mouse,
And it's still just a little more than a handful of equipment. The Weight is not worth talking about
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My two setups
Seagate wireless plus 1Tb
As long as the battery of the hdd has enough power to maintain its wifi service this is the absolutely no wires solution. Easy to operate but slow in terms of data transfer. Fast enough to watch Hd-video though.
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thats exactly what i was planning on using it for. i've never been able to stream anything via wifi to the tablet (netflix is okay, i mean from my local drives), though, as it always buffers and stutters making video playback unwatchable. probably just my home network, but for almost 200$, i'm a little gunshy about this option.
Hebron connector
EasyACC powerpack 10000mA
Toshiba STOR.E basic 500gb ext. USB hdd
In this setup there are cables.
Powerpack to connectorä
Hdd to connector
Connector to Note
Advantage of this setup is that I can read sd Card, connect USB stick, mouse,
And it's still just a little more than a handful of equipment. The Weight is not worth talking about
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will try this. cables connecting the devices i don't mind... i just don't want to be tied to a wall outlet. especially if there are no walls available. :cyclops: i went with the 16000 easyacc for $50, and the 9pin usb otg y cable for $9; so that setup is much cheaper then the wifi/harddrive/battery device.
final outcome
thanks to everyone who responded with suggestions.
so i ended up getting a power pack, and an otg y-cable to hook up to the hard drive. i actually bought two otg cables, one usb3 9pin and a usb2 5pin. the usb2 had a micro female connector for the power, while the usb3 had a standard male connector.
the usb3 otg didn't work. plugged the power pack in, plugged the harddrive in, plugged it into the tablet.... nothing.
the usb2 otg did work, luckily the power pack had a male-female adapter. tablet recognized the hard drive was present, but said it was blank, and es file explorer popped up a warning that otg only supported fat32 (hard drive was originally exfat). so after reformatting to fat32, everything seems to work well enough.
i don't know why the usb3 cable doesn't work, it may just be a dud but i have nothing else to test it with. all in all, an annoying and frustrating experience getting this to work. i don't see why anyone actually thinks these sorts of tablets are going to become laptop replacements when basic functionality requires so much teeth pulling.
so it goes,
-lq
I picked up a SanDisk Dual USB drive, and although it works well, I was disappointed to see it's a bit too big to work with the bumper case I use. I briefly considered modifying the case, but think my best option is getting a short USB extension cable... Though I thought that would be a simple and cheap solution. After a little looking around though, I'm not sure I know what micro usb extension I need - MHL, OTG, Power? As best as I can tell, I need what they're marketing as a micro to micro OTG extension - but if someone can confirm, I'd appreciate it. My concern comes from comments on some saying they don't work for charging or syncing (search for "YCS Basics 6 inch USB Micro male to female OTG extension cable" on amazon), but it sounds like the mhl cable is just for HDMI.
Help?
Just get a small USB OTG cable. I use one sometimes with my Corsair OTG drive and it works great. Not all of my cases will let me lug the micro USB in easily hence why I have a small OTG cable. I can post pictures if you would like.
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I picked up a SanDisk Dual USB drive, and although it works well, I was disappointed to see it's a bit too big to work with the bumper case I use. I briefly considered modifying the case, but think my best option is getting a short USB extension cable... Though I thought that would be a simple and cheap solution. After a little looking around though, I'm not sure I know what micro usb extension I need - MHL, OTG, Power? As best as I can tell, I need what they're marketing as a micro to micro OTG extension - but if someone can confirm, I'd appreciate it. My concern comes from comments on some saying they don't work for charging or syncing (search for "YCS Basics 6 inch USB Micro male to female OTG extension cable" on amazon), but it sounds like the mhl cable is just for HDMI.
Help?
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Can you return it for the new USB 3.0 model? Supposedly they made the uUSB connector longer to work with more cases.
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Can you return it for the new USB 3.0 model? Supposedly they made the uUSB connector longer to work with more cases.
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Really? That would have been great... but no. Or maybe... but probably not worth it to me at this point. I got a standard OTA cable and have just been living with it that way. And I haven't looked, but I'd have to think they're charging a premium for the 3.0 enhancement. I bought mine during one of those Christmas sales, so I got it real cheap at the time. Thanks though.
Hi
I have a problem with my new S5.
For my S3 i created a USB OTG+Charge cable. For this cable type a 68k resistor is soldered between the sense and GND pins of the USB port.
this cable is not recognized by the S5. When I keep the resistor open the charger is recognized.
When I short the resistor the USB harddisk is recognized.
I tried a resistor E6 decade to test variuos values. When I use 100k the cable is recognized as "power sharing cable".
Is anybody here using a USB OTG + Charge cable?
Where is the cable detection definied? Can I change it?
Best regards,
any progress ?
For my new S5 I have ordered one CY U2-166 cable.
Sellers listings talking about compatibility up to S4, and read even one user feedback that this worked for him.
When my cable arrives (eBay) I will test it, and if it works with S5, then I will post actual measurements regarding cable construction.
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For my new S5 I have ordered one CY U2-166 cable.
Sellers listings talking about compatibility up to S4, and read even one user feedback that this worked for him.
When my cable arrives (eBay) I will test it, and if it works with S5, then I will post actual measurements regarding cable construction.
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excellent, Thank you
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excellent, Thank you
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You are welcome, but be aware that this cable comes with dual micro USB, plus one Female USB A for regular connectivity and powering external HDD.
Female USB A this is output.
Input power comes from your charger cable ( Mini USB connector).
Here are my experiences with OTG CY U2-166 cable.
1) My Galaxy S5 this is fully capable to deliver enough electrical power for USB stick, or even my external USB 2.0 HDD (WD 160GB)
2) External USB HDD this causing a minimum of 220mA of consumption up to 430mA at extreme activity.
3) When female micro USB this is also powered by external source (charging block), this become right away the main DC power source for the external HDD.
4) If incoming DC power from female micro USB this no more active? Then Galaxy S5 takes over right away by delivering power by it self.
In summary this additional female micro USB, this works in parallel with DC output of the phone.
Personally I am very happy from those results from a cable worth less than 2$.
But what caused me mixed feelings this is Android it self, this does not recognize several partitions over a single hard disk, even if them are formatted at 32GB/Fat 32.