Hi
I have a problem with my new S5.
For my S3 i created a USB OTG+Charge cable. For this cable type a 68k resistor is soldered between the sense and GND pins of the USB port.
this cable is not recognized by the S5. When I keep the resistor open the charger is recognized.
When I short the resistor the USB harddisk is recognized.
I tried a resistor E6 decade to test variuos values. When I use 100k the cable is recognized as "power sharing cable".
Is anybody here using a USB OTG + Charge cable?
Where is the cable detection definied? Can I change it?
Best regards,
any progress ?
For my new S5 I have ordered one CY U2-166 cable.
Sellers listings talking about compatibility up to S4, and read even one user feedback that this worked for him.
When my cable arrives (eBay) I will test it, and if it works with S5, then I will post actual measurements regarding cable construction.
Kiriakos-GR said:
For my new S5 I have ordered one CY U2-166 cable.
Sellers listings talking about compatibility up to S4, and read even one user feedback that this worked for him.
When my cable arrives (eBay) I will test it, and if it works with S5, then I will post actual measurements regarding cable construction.
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excellent, Thank you
Thulfiqar92 said:
excellent, Thank you
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You are welcome, but be aware that this cable comes with dual micro USB, plus one Female USB A for regular connectivity and powering external HDD.
Female USB A this is output.
Input power comes from your charger cable ( Mini USB connector).
Here are my experiences with OTG CY U2-166 cable.
1) My Galaxy S5 this is fully capable to deliver enough electrical power for USB stick, or even my external USB 2.0 HDD (WD 160GB)
2) External USB HDD this causing a minimum of 220mA of consumption up to 430mA at extreme activity.
3) When female micro USB this is also powered by external source (charging block), this become right away the main DC power source for the external HDD.
4) If incoming DC power from female micro USB this no more active? Then Galaxy S5 takes over right away by delivering power by it self.
In summary this additional female micro USB, this works in parallel with DC output of the phone.
Personally I am very happy from those results from a cable worth less than 2$.
But what caused me mixed feelings this is Android it self, this does not recognize several partitions over a single hard disk, even if them are formatted at 32GB/Fat 32.
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I bought a couple of cheap generic USB cables, one a retractable micro USB job and the other a standard USB that splits to both a mini and micro USB at the other end.
Both cables charge my phone just fine, but the phone doesn't register either cable as a data connection and no notification comes up.
Is the micro USB cable that comes with the phone industry standard, and if so does this mean that my generic cables are likely to be just off spec enough in some way that the phone doesn't register them?
Strange thing is that the mini USB end of the split cable seem to work on other things like cameras and other phones. I'm confuzzled.
when plugging in cable did you activate usb mount in the notification bar
i bought a mini to micro converter as I still have quite a few devices that need mini and thought I could save on convenience by just carrying round the adapter and plugging into existing computer cables and chargers I have around the house, car and work - Same thing with that power only, no data.
Got it from ebay some of the listings on there state "power only", still dont understand why, it cant be much more expensive to wire all 4 pins. As micro is becoming the standard.....
Harry454 said:
when plugging in cable did you activate usb mount in the notification bar
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That's the problem, I plug the cable into the N1, but don't get a notification, no tone, nothing to suggest that the phone sees the cable as a data cable at all.
I'm guessing that if the phone doesn't think it is a data cable there is no way to persuade it otherwise.
There's essentially 2 types of cables: Charge-only or Sync & Charge. This is true for the adapters as well.
It seems you folks mistakenly bought the Charge-only cable/adapter.
After some research, I found this cable (it's blackberry branded, but works 100% with my N1 for Sync and Charge):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UC9NOQ/ref=oss_product
It's cheap ($3 shipped), it's made by a trusted brand (Blackberry) and the actual cable is rather thickly insulated so it's durable too.
Read the user reviews, especially the guy with the high helpful votes count, for more details about charge-only and sync-n-charge cables.
Just tried both cables on a Nokia E623, and they both worked fine first time, charging and data.
Now it' looking like there is something slightly odd (or perfectly on spec) about the female Micro USB plug on the N1. Perhaps they are just made to only accept male plugs that exactly meet standard specs, and if a plug is out slightly in say it's contact positions or sizes the N1 won't detect it.
Anyone got any ideas?
If I am to get a Galaxy S Phone - or any new phone for that matter - they require Micro USB. I have a bunch of Mini USB accessories. But for some reason, I am having trouble finding Micro USB products. Where can I find some good ones?
Questions include:
Mainly, where should I look to find a good micro USB to USB, for my car?
I occasionally plug my Touch Pro into my TV with my soon to be useless Mini USB to AV Out. What do I do now? I have seen some Headphone To AV Out, do they work?
Micro USB to HDMI? Is that supported across most phones?
What kind of charger does the phone (or most phones) come with? Is it one of those AC Adapters, with the USB plug plugging into the AC Adapter? But the USB Cord is like, one foot? Will I need a regular cable too?
Questions, questions!! So many!!
Hello, we all know that there are USB OTG Cables with extra power plug (Y cable) but those are supposed to power external device like HDD, DVD, or anything what consumes more power than our android device can handle.
But my question is: is there any USB OTG cable with additional power plug but for simultaneous tablet / phone charging while USB stick is used?
I want to watch something long (i.e. TV Show series) from USB stick via OTG cable but I cannot simultaneously charge my tablet, so if it take too long my tablet will be out of power before I stop watching.
blackfire74 said:
Hello, we all know that there are USB OTG Cables with extra power plug (Y cable) but those are supposed to power external device like HDD, DVD, or anything what consumes more power than our android device can handle.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617692
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617692
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That means I have to add a resistor only to usb connector or just need a different kernel, or both?
On the native firmware say that this support function is disabled. Personally, I use this CivZ-FLEX-ЛУЧ-REV3.6.2 + SphereXtreme, where works flawlessly with OTG + charging resistor 64.9 K.
I call BS!!!!
I have a stock firmware, and have been using all kinds of USB cables. Found the best are made from Sony/Ericson and Blackberry. Once you have a quality cable your charging issues will go away.
Right now I am using a 7 foot cable that is from a Sony. No charging issues and works perfectly.
Lately I found another MHL cable 2hich is called HDMI to Micro HDMI, and that micro HDMI plug looks exactly like micro USB. Will such cable work with Note 8 properly without additional power?
The version of MHL our device supports requires a power source external to the tablet. That means the adapter itself needs to provide the power (battery or power adapter) or can pull enough off the HDMI cable, which is usually not enough juice to run the connection.
MicroHDMI and MicroUSB are also not physically compatible (won't fit the same port and different pin outs) even if they look so much a like. MHL typically uses MicroUSB at one end and full sized HDMI at the other.
Roma-ES said:
On the native firmware say that this support function is disabled. Personally, I use this CivZ-FLEX-ЛУЧ-REV3.6.2 + SphereXtreme, where works flawlessly with OTG + charging resistor 64.9 K.
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This is correct u need to put a 63-65 k resistor between ground and Id pin(pin 4 &5) on USB connector. Doesn't work on civatos 4.4.2 as of now. USB host works fine with regular USB host cable but no charging when u use a y cable. I use civatos 4.2.2 kernel also. Works on yyks note 2 4.3 port also..
I have test multiple times. I use a USB dac in car and need charging and USB host.
what resistor should i use on my sghi257m samsung galaxy s4 mini otg usb cable?
on my dads galaxy s5 Active it shows message that says: Do you wanna enable power sharing
is that OTG? on my S4mini nothing pops up
I know this thread is really old but i want to use a USB DAC so need at cable with a resistor as mentioned above but What ROM should I use now?? also is there anywhere I can buy a cable with resistor in it or do i have to do it myself?
looking to go completely wireless with a hard drive for the note pro for movies, music, ebooks, etc. i bought a toshiba 500gb porta-harddrive (UNpowered) and a usb2 otg cable... but its not quite working because the drive doesn't pull enough power to run (it just sits there ticking). when i plug the drive into a powered usb hub and the hub into the otg, it works fine; but then i'm still tethered by the hub power cord.
anyone have a completely wireless setup that works and care to share what equipment they're using? i'm thinking a usb3 otg cable might do the trick, but haven't been able to find one locally, and want to be certain before dealing with the shipping hassle.
thanks,
-lq
The additional conductors added in the wider micro USB 3.0 cable are for data, not power. What you could do is get a USB battery...
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liquidquick said:
looking to go completely wireless with a hard drive for the note pro for movies, music, ebooks, etc. i bought a toshiba 500gb porta-harddrive (UNpowered) and a usb2 otg cable... but its not quite working because the drive doesn't pull enough power to run (it just sits there ticking). when i plug the drive into a powered usb hub and the hub into the otg, it works fine; but then i'm still tethered by the hub power cord.
anyone have a completely wireless setup that works and care to share what equipment they're using? i'm thinking a usb3 otg cable might do the trick, but haven't been able to find one locally, and want to be certain before dealing with the shipping hassle.
thanks,
-lq
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Take a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714838
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707375
I bought 4 port USB 3.0 Hub with external power 5V 3A.
Moodyboy
I have a Seagate GoFlex 1Tb hdd. I formated it exfat and it works fine with a mocro-USB 2.0 otg cable or with a new micro-USB 3.0 org cable. The NotePro has no problem powering it with either cable.
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I have a Seagate GoFlex 1Tb hdd. I formated it exfat and it works fine with a mocro-USB 2.0 otg cable or with a new micro-USB 3.0 org cable. The NotePro has no problem powering it with either cable.
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thanks for the response. two things:
1) can you look at the fcc sticker on the hard drive and tell me what the power draw is? it should say something like 5V+- XXX mA. i'm curious about how many amps it pulls. i think the problem with mine is that it lists 1000mA, which exceeds both usb2 (500mA) and usb3 (900mA) specs.
2) is your tablet rooted? not sure it matters, but i'm reading mixed opinions on the matter in the fora, and it might be a factor.
i've also formatted exfat and that didn't seem to fix it, and it works fine attached to a powered hub, so it looks like its a power issue.
thanks,
-lq
muzzy996 said:
The additional conductors added in the wider micro USB 3.0 cable are for data, not power. What you could do is get a USB battery...
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yes, but usb3 allows for more power to be drawn then usb2 according to the specs. turns out not enough for the hard drive either way unfortunately so the battery might be the way to go. would need a 'y' cable though since there is no power input for the hard drive.
now i'm thinking of just getting one of those hard drive/battery/wi-fi hotspot combos that seagate or corsair makes.
thanks
-lq
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I bought 4 port USB 3.0 Hub with external power 5V 3A.
Moodyboy
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thanks for the links. by 'external power' i'm assuming you mean wired? not exactly what i'm looking for, though i have a wired hub that works... i'm just trying to find a completely wireless solution for when i go camping, etc.
-lq
liquidquick said:
thanks for the response. two things:
1) can you look at the fcc sticker on the hard drive and tell me what the power draw is? it should say something like 5V+- XXX mA. i'm curious about how many amps it pulls. i think the problem with mine is that it lists 1000mA, which exceeds both usb2 (500mA) and usb3 (900mA) specs.
2) is your tablet rooted? not sure it matters, but i'm reading mixed opinions on the matter in the fora, and it might be a factor.
i've also formatted exfat and that didn't seem to fix it, and it works fine attached to a powered hub, so it looks like its a power issue.
thanks,
-lq
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1. Power draw is not listed on my HDD. The part number is 9ZF2N5-501 1 TB if that helps. The only connector is theUSB 3 connector, no seperate power input.
2. No, my NotePro is not Rooted.
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liquidquick said:
thanks for the links. by 'external power' i'm assuming you mean wired? not exactly what i'm looking for, though i have a wired hub that works... i'm just trying to find a completely wireless solution for when i go camping, etc.
-lq
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I'm interested keep me posted
My two setups
Seagate wireless plus 1Tb
As long as the battery of the hdd has enough power to maintain its wifi service this is the absolutely no wires solution. Easy to operate but slow in terms of data transfer. Fast enough to watch Hd-video though.
Hebron connector
EasyACC powerpack 10000mA
Toshiba STOR.E basic 500gb ext. USB hdd
In this setup there are cables.
Powerpack to connectorä
Hdd to connector
Connector to Note
Advantage of this setup is that I can read sd Card, connect USB stick, mouse,
And it's still just a little more than a handful of equipment. The Weight is not worth talking about
RaSand said:
My two setups
Seagate wireless plus 1Tb
As long as the battery of the hdd has enough power to maintain its wifi service this is the absolutely no wires solution. Easy to operate but slow in terms of data transfer. Fast enough to watch Hd-video though.
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thats exactly what i was planning on using it for. i've never been able to stream anything via wifi to the tablet (netflix is okay, i mean from my local drives), though, as it always buffers and stutters making video playback unwatchable. probably just my home network, but for almost 200$, i'm a little gunshy about this option.
Hebron connector
EasyACC powerpack 10000mA
Toshiba STOR.E basic 500gb ext. USB hdd
In this setup there are cables.
Powerpack to connectorä
Hdd to connector
Connector to Note
Advantage of this setup is that I can read sd Card, connect USB stick, mouse,
And it's still just a little more than a handful of equipment. The Weight is not worth talking about
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will try this. cables connecting the devices i don't mind... i just don't want to be tied to a wall outlet. especially if there are no walls available. :cyclops: i went with the 16000 easyacc for $50, and the 9pin usb otg y cable for $9; so that setup is much cheaper then the wifi/harddrive/battery device.
final outcome
thanks to everyone who responded with suggestions.
so i ended up getting a power pack, and an otg y-cable to hook up to the hard drive. i actually bought two otg cables, one usb3 9pin and a usb2 5pin. the usb2 had a micro female connector for the power, while the usb3 had a standard male connector.
the usb3 otg didn't work. plugged the power pack in, plugged the harddrive in, plugged it into the tablet.... nothing.
the usb2 otg did work, luckily the power pack had a male-female adapter. tablet recognized the hard drive was present, but said it was blank, and es file explorer popped up a warning that otg only supported fat32 (hard drive was originally exfat). so after reformatting to fat32, everything seems to work well enough.
i don't know why the usb3 cable doesn't work, it may just be a dud but i have nothing else to test it with. all in all, an annoying and frustrating experience getting this to work. i don't see why anyone actually thinks these sorts of tablets are going to become laptop replacements when basic functionality requires so much teeth pulling.
so it goes,
-lq
Hi guys
What are you using to power your Tab S and have a hard drive etc connected
at the same time?
Looking for the smallest possible option to limit bulkiness
Thanks!!
what about this cable.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EJP5X...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0RE8386SWCWM00V7XPZJ
John.
Yeah looks good....what cables are you guys using for charging and host at the same time?
I heard its not recommended to use an external hard drive without supplying power to the Tab S
Yeah, your right about using an external power supply when using an portable hdd with your tablet as it uses too much power by the hdd, the cable i linked above has an microusb socket for you to plug your tablet usb power adaptor into.
John.
The Y-OTG cables supply power to the OTG device (e.g. SD card USB reader) but not concurrently to the Tab S. Basically all they do is reduce power drain on the TabS. The previous comment to try to use a powered USB hub or a self powered USB device is good advise.
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I have to resist the urge to go cheap on power adapters, after i had an car and an mains adapter start smoking in a week and nearly blew-up my HTC M7, I have been looking at the Belkin USB Adapter 2.4amp it comes with an 25.000 damage warranty, they cost between 15-20£ in the UK.
John.
markmessier8888 said:
Hi guys
What are you using to power your Tab S and have a hard drive etc connected
at the same time?
Looking for the smallest possible option to limit bulkiness
Thanks!!
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Lava silmucharge is the only adapter that works for the tab pro and s series tablets normal usb charge cables wont work http://www.amazon.com/SimulCharge-1-port-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00MOQFUQM trust me i tried them all. They also have a 3 usb port but its kind of big..
b3ltazar said:
Lava silmucharge is the only adapter that works for the tab pro and s series tablets normal usb charge cables wont work http://www.amazon.com/SimulCharge-1-port-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00MOQFUQM trust me i tried them all. They also have a 3 usb port but its kind of big..
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Have you tried the ones on aliexpress.com??
They say its otg and charges at the same time
Samsung tablets no longer supports this function that I know of. They used to have a dock mode that would do usb host charge and hdmi out ending with note 8. I tried all types of resistors and cables so far the lava adapter is the only one that worked. It's a solid 1amp charge with usb function. I wasted more money making and buying cables that said worked but never did. If u want ou cheap buy a usb host cable put a 1ohm to 10k potentiometer in between ground and Id pin turn it slow til u see usb host triggered on the tablet but again it could be a waste of money and not work. I had a tab pro trigger usb host and charge that way but was very unstable current. Any questions let me know.
Hi.
In the user manual it says that the touchscreen my act-up while it is used while the tablet is charging if the power supply is unstable.
A quick Google show this is an common issue for a lot of brands of tablet/phones
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Hi.
In the user manual it says that the touchscreen my act-up while it is used while the tablet is charging if the power supply is unstable.
A quick Google show this is an common issue for a lot of brands of tablet/phones
John.
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Never had a issue I bought the lava 3 port silmulcharge sts 3u it has 3 usb host ports I use one for usb dac 1 for ireless mouse/keyboard 1 for flashdrive. It was made for kiosks to always be plugged in and charging according to the guy at lava I talked to. You have to have a dba to get it direct and the shipping is alot from Canada to us so buy from amazon.