[Q] Desire S will not boot after Over the air update from T-Mobile / HTC - HTC Desire S

Hi
My phone received an update last week.
The phone is not rooted. It is exactly as when bought.
Unfortunately, it now hangs at the T-Mobile splash screen and will not boot. Recovery takes me to a black screen with a phone and a red triangle.
Nothing else goes past the splash screen.
I was hoping to just flash a new ROM as I have done on other phones but it is S-ON and USB debugging is not enabled.
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 0.98.0002
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
Mar 30 2011, 17:29:31
Since I cannot start the phone I am at a bit of a loss as to what I can do.
I have searched forums including this one but cannot find an answer for such a problem when USB debugging is off, the phone cannot boot and it's S-ON - although i can get into bootloader no trouble.
Please can someone give me an idea if this phone is a gonner? or might you be able to suggest a solution?
Thank you
Don

Don't you have warranty? Since the device is untouched let the service centre take care, why bothering yourself.
The other way is to press Vol Up + Power while in the red triangle recovery screen and wipe cache
Sent from my HTC Desire S

thanks for the reply.
it's a works phone and they haven't shown an interest in fixing it but have just replaced it with a new one x.
that's great but rather than throw it away i'd like to try and fix it.
i have tried the volume up and power button from the red triangle screen and it gives me the option to boot from sd card which is a start!
what can i put on the sd card to get me going? do i need a rom image of the original rom? can i download something and if so what should i go looking for?
sorry if this is a bit noob but i tinker but am no expert!
thanks for any further assistance.
D

donster22 said:
thanks for the reply.
it's a works phone and they haven't shown an interest in fixing it but have just replaced it with a new one x.
that's great but rather than throw it away i'd like to try and fix it.
i have tried the volume up and power button from the red triangle screen and it gives me the option to boot from sd card which is a start!
what can i put on the sd card to get me going? do i need a rom image of the original rom? can i download something and if so what should i go looking for?
sorry if this is a bit noob but i tinker but am no expert!
thanks for any further assistance.
D
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There is nothing to install from the sdcard.
Don't you have a "wipe cache" option there?

yes, i can wipe the cache but it makes no difference.
should i just give up hope or is there anything else i can do?
seems a shame.
since the phone can get to the different option screens i was hoping there might be a cure!
:crying:

There are ways to fix it, but it may be hard if you do not know the basics. Take a look in your SDcard for a file named OTA_blabla.zip
If there is such copy it to a safe place (as a backup) the install it via the option in recovery.
If no then you can make a Goldcard and flash an European 1.47.401.2 RUU while in "fastboot USB" mode
Sent from my HTC Desire S

Unfortunately, it gets better..... the SD card has been reformatted and put into new phone!
I'm quite good at following instructions / using my common sense if anyone has some pointers.
Even keen to read up if someone can point me in the right direction?
[Edit] sorry... Had not seem the goldcard bit in my e-mail. Will look into that.
Thanks
Don

Thanks for your help so far.
I think I'm getting somewhere but..
Gold card, done and in the phone.
RUU runs but after 30% i get, "Customer ID error".
I could not find the exact ROM you mentioned (European 1.47.401.2 RUU) so used:
RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed
Is that where I've gone wrong?
the RUU asks me if i want to update 1.47.110.3 to Image Version 1.47.401.4?
do i need to find 1.47.110.3 somewhere then?
thanks
don

This is the problem with branded phones. Not all RUUs are available. That's why you have to make the GoldCard trick.
The RUU you have used is the proper one. My mistake at the last digit. But the error you are getting indicates that the GoldCard is not working.
Anyway today I remembered that the user Scanob posted another mirror in the "Saga Shipped ROMs" with some RUUs that are not available on the File Factory.
I have searched for it, checked and I found this: RUU_Saga_TMO_UK_1.47.110.3_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3 805.06.02.03_M_release_ 204398_signed.exe
I have opened the site but the file was not longer available there. So I have made some searching, found it on another Chinese site (direct link - you have to hit the blue button to download and the click the option to the right to download it via your browser).
So I guess this is your solution. Forget about the GoldCard, download the RUU and run it in "Fastboot USB" mode. You device should be fine after that.
Good luck!

Thanks. Will try tonight.

It's worked! Thank you very very much!

[plz plz plz plz need this ROM in emergency

solo25 said:
[plz plz plz plz need this ROM in emergency
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WTF???

RUU_Saga_TMO_UK_1.47.110.3_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3 805.06.02.03_M_release_ 204398_signed.exe

solo25 said:
RUU_Saga_TMO_UK_1.47.110.3_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3 805.06.02.03_M_release_ 204398_signed.exe
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As this is not a helpdesk for noobs, I am going to suggest that you might wish to consider being a little more interactive with the forum if you ever return for more assistance. At the moment you sound like an 8 year old spoilt brat.
Using Google to search for the first part of the RUU name only "RUU_Saga_TMO_UK_1.47.110.3" gave a couple of hits which ultimately lead to the same place;-
http://dl.vmall.com/c0cn79ht6s or http://dl.dbank.com/c0cn79ht6s
and took me less than 30 seconds to do

how i can instal it in my htc plz?
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i have founed a zipzd file not a setup how i can instal it in my htc plz?

solo25 said:
how i can instal it in my htc plz?
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i have founed a zipzd file not a setup how i can instal it in my htc plz?
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You really need to start searching and reading.

plz plz need help

solo25 said:
plz plz need help
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Stop being so damn lazy and use your eyes and brain :banghead:

i realy need a help ?
i use a goldcard or bootloader?

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PLEASE Help - I think i bricked my phone. [SOLVED]

Hi,
My phone was working fine till i tried to revert to old radio and spl to use the superD rom. Ive used many roms and all works fine. When i did the revert my recovery stopped working, so i tried going back to the higher radio and spl and still my recovery doesnt work, i press home and end call and insteasd of going to recovery it just sits there with the htc magic logo for 5 mins then reboots and loops. I have no OS on the phone now so I cant boot into O/S or recovery so I thought id try to install an RUU that I know lets me change the SPL and radio. I thought the only way would be in fastboot so I went into fastboot and loaded the RUU in windows and get the errors "the ROM update utility cannot update your android phone" and
"please get the correct ROM update utility & try again". Now my fastboot has a little picture of a processor(I think) with a red cross through it and now I cant even change the SPL or radio as I keep getting the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)" this is so frustrating and I really need my phone . I am not smart enough to fix this so if someone could PLEASE help i would be greatly appreciative, thanks.
In fasboot I have the little processor photo with a red cross and the following info.
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.008(SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.08.29
Nov 3 2009, 15:56:29
***Update***
Now I can only get into fastboot, even when I just turn the phone on. Please view this link of the photo of my phone to see what I mean, thanks.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2n1ylwk.jpg
I dont think you bricked it as long as you can enter fastboot..
Actually I dont know what you should do.. hopefully someone can help you.
Good luck
Screwing around with different radio versions almost guarantees a bricking if you don't know what you're doing.
I got your fastboot info, but what exact phone is it?
MicroMina said:
I dont think you bricked it as long as you can enter fastboot..
Actually I dont know what you should do.. hopefully someone can help you.
Good luck
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Hi MicroMina,
Thanks for the reply. I hope someone can help me too im really stuck here. I have attached a photo in my first post, not sure its even fastboot anymore I can access
kbeezie said:
Screwing around with different radio versions almost guarantees a bricking if you don't know what you're doing.
I got your fastboot info, but what exact phone is it?
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Hi kbeezie,
Its a HTC Magic 32A. I got it on a plan from Three(hutchinson) Australia.
My phone was working fine up until I used the radio and SPL for this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239
I was trying to downgrade(revert) when the problem happend. Updating/reverting had the same outcome which is where I am at now, thanks
ddmmh said:
Hi kbeezie,
Its a HTC Magic 32A. I got it on a plan from Three(hutchinson) Australia.
My phone was working fine up until I used the radio and SPL for this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239
I was trying to downgrade(revert) when the problem happend. Updating/reverting had the same outcome which is where I am at now, thanks
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Well you can probably try to revert the phone back to it's original RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=659403
There's a Hutchinson, Au one on the list.
kbeezie said:
Well you can probably try to revert the phone back to it's original RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=659403
There's a Hutchinson, Au one on the list.
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Hi kbeezie,
Thanks for the reply but I already tried to do that but i keep getting the errors "the ROM update utility cannot update your android phone" and
"please get the correct ROM update utility & try again". . Long story short up until 3 days ago I was using the Aus hutching RUU from that post. It was unhackable up until 2 days ago when there was a solution for the spl.0009-0010. I applied the method to revert to a non perfected SPL( i believe its called) i had root/recovery.. i even played around with a few roms but ultimatley i wanted to use the superD rom so I had to revert back to an old radio and SPL and thats when all this nightmare began, any other suggestions?? or any other info I can provide for you? Thanks.
ddmmh said:
Hi kbeezie,
Thanks for the reply but I already tried to do that but i keep getting the errors "the ROM update utility cannot update your android phone" and
"please get the correct ROM update utility & try again". . Long story short up until 3 days ago I was using the Aus hutching RUU from that post. It was unhackable up until 2 days ago when there was a solution for the spl.0009-0010. I applied the method to revert to a non perfected SPL( i believe its called) i had root/recovery.. i even played around with a few roms but ultimatley i wanted to use the superD rom so I had to revert back to an old radio and SPL and thats when all this nightmare began, any other suggestions?? or any other info I can provide for you? Thanks.
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If you had it working... why did you bother to flash the radio?
kbeezie said:
If you had it working... why did you bother to flash the radio?
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Because to run the superD rom you need to have old radio and spl. As soon as I went to revert i started having the problems of not getting into recovery and the phone hanging on the htc magic and rebooting in a loop. At that point in time the fastboot didnt have a lock on it(see picture in first post) When i tried to use the RUU is when I REALLY started having big problems and the fastboot had that little lock image and now the only thing the phone does is go into fastboot no matter if i power on or hold home and power or volume and power... hope this sheds a bit more light on the situation thanks
ddmmh said:
Because to run the superD rom you need to have old radio and spl. As soon as I went to revert i started having the problems of not getting into recovery and the phone hanging on the htc magic and rebooting in a loop. At that point in time the fastboot didnt have a lock on it(see picture in first post) When i tried to use the RUU is when I REALLY started having big problems and the fastboot had that little lock image and now the only thing the phone does is go into fastboot no matter if i power on or hold home and power or volume and power... hope this sheds a bit more light on the situation thanks
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I never had to deal with the RUU screen, and googling isn't revealing any new info. There's a good chance you effectively bricked the phone. The only other thing I can think of in regards to RUU images, is if perhaps the phone wasn't originally intended for Australia (as such would be a different RUU image).
kbeezie said:
I never had to deal with the RUU screen, and googling isn't revealing any new info. There's a good chance you effectively bricked the phone. The only other thing I can think of in regards to RUU images, is if perhaps the phone wasn't originally intended for Australia (as such would be a different RUU image).
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Hmm i see, does the SPL or radio determine this? Because like i said earlier I was using the latest RUU for hutchinson AUS which installed fine so I believe thats not the issue, the only problem was the perfected SPL which was finally cracked a few days ago. I never thought id actually brick my phone. Do you think theres nothing I can do? I tried googling a locked fastboot with no results either, is this the first problem of its kind that you know of?
While in fastboot; can you see the device from adb devices?
The safest thing to do would be to go back to the provider's code... just make sure it is the one for your model.
Carlos1970 said:
While in fastboot; can you see the device from adb devices?
The safest thing to do would be to go back to the provider's code... just make sure it is the one for your model.
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Hi Carlos,
No I cannot see any devices when i CMD adb devices
When you say go back to the providers code do you mean the RUU? If so then ive tried this without success(last one not original). If not can you explain what you mean? thanks
...and you have the SDK and USB drivers installed; correct? I run WinXP and the ADB driver was not automatically installed; had to be installed manually.
"fastboot devices" should work; does that one show anything?
Wow, amazing. Don't try to help when you yourself are not completely sure about what you are saying.
ADB will NEVER recognize your phone in fastboot mode - hence FASTBOOT commands were created!
do "fastboot devices" while in fastboot , not "adb devices"
eyegor said:
Wow, amazing. Don't try to help when you yourself are not completely sure about what you are saying.
ADB will NEVER recognize your phone in fastboot mode - hence FASTBOOT commands were created!
do "fastboot devices" while in fastboot , not "adb devices"
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The problem of course is those who don't know what they're talking bout wouldn't know that?
And yet they talk. (not directed at Carlos, he did in fact tell the OP to try fastboot devices as well, only later)
OK so I mispoke... The point I was trying to make was that the USB drivers had to be properly installed to get any output out of ADB.
Either through adb devices or fastboot devices it would be good to know if there is any comm over the usb port. If so; the best thing to do might be to reflash the provider's code.
So back to the issue. I found this thread from earlier in the year; I didn't go through all the messages but it is your same problem.
"My HTC Magic Stuck in RUU Screen after failed ROM upgrade"
Search for thread 625604
Hope it helps.
Carlos1970 said:
OK so I mispoke... The point I was trying to make was that the USB drivers had to be properly installed to get any output out of ADB.
Either through adb devices or fastboot devices it would be good to know if there is any comm over the usb port. If so; the best thing to do might be to reflash the provider's code.
So back to the issue. I found this thread from earlier in the year; I didn't go through all the messages but it is your same problem.
"My HTC Magic Stuck in RUU Screen after failed ROM upgrade"
Search for thread 625604
Hope it helps.
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Hi Carlos and everyone thanks for your input.
I read through that post and all related posts but there wasnt really much of a solution.
I CAN access fastboot devices so i tried to flash a recovery via fastboot it starts to write then I get an error "FAILED (remote: 12 signature verify fail).
I think because I have S-ON? So i was thinking if there was a way to turn S-OFF would I be able to flash a custom recovery via fastboot??? Cheers
BUMP ^ ^
$20 into paypal account for anyone can give me a solution to fix this 100%.

Check if Desire S is S-OFF (noob)

So i got my Desire S this week nd i LOVE it. It's my first android phone, so i wud like 2 root it. How can i check if it's S-On or S-OFF ?? I live in India if that makes any difference. Also, is rooting tougher than jailbreaking? Cuz i've jailbroken about 10 of my frndz iPods (and my own iPod 4) nd it's quite easy. Thanks
shrome99 said:
So i got my Desire S this week nd i LOVE it. It's my first android phone, so i wud like 2 root it. How can i check if it's S-On or S-OFF ?? I live in India if that makes any difference. Also, is rooting tougher than jailbreaking? Cuz i've jailbroken about 10 of my frndz iPods (and my own iPod 4) nd it's quite easy. Thanks
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You basically perform most of the steps to perform a factory reset, but not the last...
1. Power Off Phone.
2. Remove the battery, wait for a few seconds, then reinsert the battery.
3. Press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER
button.
4. Wait for the screen with the three Android images to appear, and then release
the VOLUME DOWN button.
Now the top line of the screen should....say something like....
SAGA PVT SHIP and either S-ON or S-OFF
To get out of this screen:
1. hit the Power button
2. then the VOLUME DOWN to select REBOOT
3. then hit the POWER button
Once you have a S-OFF phone then getting root should be easy.
thnx bro. Sadly, my phone is S-On Is there any way to root S-On Or change it to S-Off?? Also, wats XTC Clip?
shrome99 said:
thnx bro. Sadly, my phone is S-On Is there any way to root S-On Or change it to S-Off?? Also, wats XTC Clip?
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read the forum
root + s-on = NO
simply try google for xtc clip...(its a hardware device that changes HTC phones from S-On to S-OFF)
shrome99 said:
thnx bro. Sadly, my phone is S-On Is there any way to root S-On Or change it to S-Off?? Also, wats XTC Clip?
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maybe you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
.. not sure.. still readin up on tryin to root a friends htc desire s wiv s-on .. lemme know if this worked for u (i can only try wen i get the phone in my hand)
!
... or instead of flooding you could read PINNED NEWBIE GUIDE topic in this forum!!!
no offence
schizovivek said:
maybe you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
.. not sure.. still readin up on tryin to root a friends htc desire s wiv s-on .. lemme know if this worked for u (i can only try wen i get the phone in my hand)
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Bumping an old topic, then linking someone to a rooting guide on the my touch 4g forum? ... -_-"
Please consult with these threads.
[GUIDE] How to S-OFF your 1.47.x ROM with Revolutionary (without downgrading)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194488
[GUIDE] Update 28/06/11: HTC Desire S Guide (V1.03) For Newcomers to Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097538
[GUIDE] A Complete Tutorial for the Beginners and Others
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
[INDEX][19 OCT 11] ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/RADIOS/TWEAKS/GUIDES/etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
Well dunno what you mean with the bumping statement, but I figd the procedure would be same across HTC devices.. Anyways.. At least my response got a helpful response from you
schizovivek said:
Well dunno what you mean with the bumping statement, but I figd the procedure would be same across HTC devices.. Anyways.. At least my response got a helpful response from you
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I can see you intention was good, but unfortunately the rooting process varies slightly between devices, this comes down to the bootloader, android version, and HTC build version, each have different parts which can be exploited in order to create a loop hole in order to abuse.
The problem is, all it takes is one person to not read your post completely, follow that guide, then when something goes wrong they're coming back and posting "HULP FONE NO BOOT WUT DO NOW?!111" on the dev board.
zeekiz said:
I can see you intention was good, but unfortunately the rooting process varies slightly between devices, this comes down to the bootloader, android version, and HTC build version, each have different parts which can be exploited in order to create a loop hole in order to abuse.
The problem is, all it takes is one person to not read your post completely, follow that guide, then when something goes wrong they're coming back and posting "HULP FONE NO BOOT WUT DO NOW?!111" on the dev board.
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Hahahaha.. Got your point.. I've seen such responses when I was reading posts related to s2 rooting.. Luckily for me rooting was a breeze.. I will try your suggestions once my friend gets the desire s.. So tell me.. Your ds was s-off or s-on? If on was there any particular thread that was the most helpful
Edit: ok... read the how to s-off guide.. man its painful
When I got my HTC Desire S I was lucky to have the Telstra pre-installed ROM, S-ON, no root etc. The bootloader was the first one .. (can't think of the version sorry), which at least made the process a breeze.
But literally I took the phone out of the box (brand new haha), turned it on, rooted it, installed recovery, and installed a custom ROM.
I did complete the process using a Live USB Ubuntu, I highly recommend doing it this way, as you won't experience any issues with drives etc. It does take away a lot of the hassle you see in a lot of the threads with phones not being recognised, and what-not.
zeekiz said:
When I got my HTC Desire S I was lucky to have the Telstra pre-installed ROM, S-ON, no root etc. The bootloader was the first one .. (can't think of the version sorry), which at least made the process a breeze.
But literally I took the phone out of the box (brand new haha), turned it on, rooted it, installed recovery, and installed a custom ROM.
I did complete the process using a Live USB Ubuntu, I highly recommend doing it this way, as you won't experience any issues with drives etc. It does take away a lot of the hassle you see in a lot of the threads with phones not being recognised, and what-not.
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oh ok.. will give it a go.. cant believe am puttin so much efforts to rooting sum1 elses phone especially wen they dont want it ... would it be fine if i PM'd u in a week or two's time in case i face any issues? or ill just post here if u have subscribed to this post
schizovivek said:
oh ok.. will give it a go.. cant believe am puttin so much efforts to rooting sum1 elses phone especially wen they dont want it ... would it be fine if i PM'd u in a week or two's time in case i face any issues? or ill just post here if u have subscribed to this post
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Sure, not a problem. If your able to find out the Bootloader version, ROM version etc. it would help a lot as we can at least advise you as to what you need to do in order to complete a hassle free process ;-).
Bootloader - hold volume down button, then press power on (when the phone is switched off (make sure fast boot is disabled))
ROM version - Settings > About Phone > Software Information
zeekiz said:
Sure, not a problem. If your able to find out the Bootloader version, ROM version etc. it would help a lot as we can at least advise you as to what you need to do in order to complete a hassle free process ;-).
Bootloader - hold volume down button, then press power on (when the phone is switched off (make sure fast boot is disabled))
ROM version - Settings > About Phone > Software Information
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will do .. thnks for the prompt replies
never pull the battery out!!
I s-offed and rooted last week via revolutionary
Its said loads on here but you gotta read the threads, and the old hands get annoyed if you ask questions that have been asked loadsa times before!
Using ADB ive found its way easier to copy a cmd.exe into your android-win-tools folder so you dont need to keep navigating to that folder in cmd, assuming youre using windows

[Q] Couple of problems with the Desire S

Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
sukrit7 said:
Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
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Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
Thanks a lot for answering and helping me with my problem.
enigmaamit said:
Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
I've understood this but does it also mean that unless i'm on the Orange network, I won't get the update?
Also, great guess on where I got the phone from
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I understand. There are two files that i think are relevant.
1. HTC-ANDROID-GOLD_CARD. I haven't put this in as far as I remember. Size-0 bytes.
2. PG88DIAG.nbh. I'm presuming this is the file you were talking about? There is a slight difference in name,though.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
This is what is weird,Amit. If I pull the battery when the phone is at the device info and clear s58 data screen, it always hard resets. All software/contacts,basically anything on the phone memory disappears. Why does this happen?
If you think this behavior is normal then i'll remove the file in the memory card and try again.
Thanks a ton!
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
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Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
sukrit7 said:
Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
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Why don't we start by removing the PG88DIAG file from the sd card (back it up on PC), and also the GOLD CARD file, which obviously was used by the nefarious Gaffar guys to s-off your phone...,
This will hopefully give you access to bootloader and fastboot so you can root and flash a custom recovery. Once you've done that, you can flash whatever ROM you like.
I'd recommend Endymion if you want the best possible sense 3.5 experience...
Let me know if removing those two files allows you to remain in bootloader and access recovery...
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
sukrit7 said:
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
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Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
enigmaamit said:
Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
This didn't work. I left it on two times for more than 15 minutes.
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
I can do this without root too,right?
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
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android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
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android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
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Yup, everything seems to be fine. Go ahead and root your phone... flash 4EXT Recoery via 4EXT Recovery Updater app, and then after taking a backup, and doing a full wipe, flash whatever ROM you want to...
Read the instructions and guides carefully in the general and Development section prior to this, and remember...DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY WHILE THE PHONE IS STILL ON! It's better to try other methods to reboot it, or even let it discharge over time and switch off by itself, rather that attempt to pull battery. Othert than this, i think you're ok to flash a new ROM, and enter the amazing world of custom ROMs...
Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
sukrit7 said:
Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
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Congrats!
If you want a Sense 3 ROM, go for Hyperion
For Sense 3.5 (My personal favourite) go for Endymion
For crazy theming options, you can try MIUI from MIUI.us
If you like plain stock look.... Cyanogenmod.
I would however still recommend Endymion (Though i like v2.2 better than v3)
P.S. Just a friendly question... Gaffar me kitne ka pada ye phone? I bought my phone new...but my wife wants one now and i don't want to put in the money for a new phone from a mobile store...
i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
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i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
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You can get the v3.1 without the addon initially. See how it works for you... Then you can flash the addon package if you feel like Modding the ROM. I'm still on v2.2 because I didn't feel the need to upgrade.
Please do get me the number of your guy in gaffar as I'm planning to get a galaxy note as well as a desire s...
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
Hey. Looked everywhere for the number but I just can't find it. Awfully sorry,man.
I don't know if you've ever been to Gaffar before but just incase you haven't,do ensure that you buy from a proper shop and not people with cabinets full of phones. These guys will offer you cheaper prices but will also disappear in a couple of days.
There are only 5-6 big shops which sell import phones,most of them are decent and will offer you a week or two worth of hardware guarantee. Enough for you to atleast test the phone out.
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[Resolved] [Q] HTC Desire Stuck in Fastboot - Noob!

I know its been asked plenty of times before, but everything I found either didn't work or I didn't understand...
So before I start, I'll apologize ahead of time for any annoyance or stupid questions, cause I'm gonna need some explanations.
I'm on an HTC Desire (U.S. Cellular) rooted and S-Off. Earlier today it was working fine. I went to restore a ROM backup through ROM Manager that I had and everything was going ok. ClockworkMod Recovery started to install the backup, but after a couple seconds it looked like it froze. I waited a while and I proceeded to do a battery pull (I've actually had to do this many other times when installing roms, and I never had problems). Right as I took the battery out I saw the Desire's screen, and it was just starting to continue the installation as I pulled the battery.
No problem, I thought. But when I went to reboot my phone, it took me directly into Fastboot. So I pulled the battery again, and the same thing happened. I cleared my storage with no luck. And after searching countless threads (like I said before), I either don't entirely understand what people are suggesting or their suggestions aren't working.
That's when I decided to join XDA to get a personalized answer. Can anyone help me with this in a (very) explained/easy to understand way?
I don't know if it will help, but here's what the HBOOT menu says at the top:
-Revolutionary-
BRAVOC DVT2 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.06.1002
MICROP-051e
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-2.15.00.11.16
Thanks in advance!
You need to find a .zip of the current ROM you're running and install it from ClockWorkMod recovery (if you can access it and have it installed). Seeing as you can still access Fastboot, all hope is not lost just yet
As much as everyone likes making backups, they really introduce a lot more problems and quirks than they're worth A clean flash each time, while more work, produces better, cleaner results. A lot of the issues people see relating to flashing and bugs have more to do with restoring their app/system backups than the actual ROM itself!
Failing that, you'll need a stock US Cellular RUU (ROM Update Utility) from HTC to return the unit - including recovery, bootloader and radio (you'll lose S-OFF too) - completely to stock. Extreme, but often when you find yourself stuck outside the OS it's better to go back and start from scratch
If there's anything else you need let me know!
Good luck!
juzz86 said:
You need to find a .zip of the current ROM you're running and install it from ClockWorkMod recovery (if you can access it and have it installed). Seeing as you can still access Fastboot, all hope is not lost just yet
As much as everyone likes making backups, they really introduce a lot more problems and quirks than they're worth A clean flash each time, while more work, produces better, cleaner results. A lot of the issues people see relating to flashing and bugs have more to do with restoring their app/system backups than the actual ROM itself!
Failing that, you'll need a stock US Cellular RUU (ROM Update Utility) from HTC to return the unit - including recovery, bootloader and radio (you'll lose S-OFF too) - completely to stock. Extreme, but often when you find yourself stuck outside the OS it's better to go back and start from scratch
If there's anything else you need let me know!
Good luck!
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As far as the first method, I just drop it into my SD card on my computer correct? Under computer is D: Recovery (I'm on Windows). Would I drop it in there or in the Recovery folder within it?
Also, when I'm in CWM Recovery and I select any of the options, the ROM Manager icon pops up (its normally just a watermark). This has been a common problem for me, I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong.
I'll work on the USCC RUU as well, at this point I really don't mind if I lose everything as long as I get it working again!
Thanks for the help!
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As far as the first method, I just drop it into my SD card on my computer correct? Under computer is D: Recovery (I'm on Windows). Would I drop it in there or in the Recovery folder within it?
Also, when I'm in CWM Recovery and I select any of the options, the ROM Manager icon pops up (its normally just a watermark). This has been a common problem for me, I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong.
I'll work on the USCC RUU as well, at this point I really don't mind if I lose everything as long as I get it working again!
Thanks for the help!
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Yep, grab the .zip and put the SD card in a reader. Once it shows, just paste it onto the card (root directory, not in any folders). Then boot into CWM and 'flash zip from SD', 'choose zip file' and flash away.
I wouldn't stress about the icon popping up, as long as the recovery is doing what you're telling it to
My most recommended option is the RUU. It'll sort out all your quirks, it just takes a little while to get everything back the way you like it. The benefits are there, though
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This thread will help you a lot. There's USCC RUUs in there!
juzz86 said:
Yep, grab the .zip and put the SD card in a reader. Once it shows, just paste it onto the card (root directory, not in any folders). Then boot into CWM and 'flash zip from SD', 'choose zip file' and flash away.
I wouldn't stress about the icon popping up, as long as the recovery is doing what you're telling it to
My most recommended option is the RUU. It'll sort out all your quirks, it just takes a little while to get everything back the way you like it. The benefits are there, though
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This thread will help you a lot. There's USCC RUUs in there!
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Ok, I'm downloading the stock 2.2 RUU now (hopefully that's the right one?). As far as CWM Recovery, the icon pops up and that's all that's on the screen, until I press the power button again and it brings me back to the menu. None of the actions work at all.
Anyway, I'm hoping this RUU works. There aren't any other pre-requisites that I need for this, are there? I just download it, run it, and bam?
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Ok, I'm downloading the stock 2.2 RUU now (hopefully that's the right one?). As far as CWM Recovery, the icon pops up and that's all that's on the screen, until I press the power button again and it brings me back to the menu. None of the actions work at all.
Anyway, I'm hoping this RUU works. There aren't any other pre-requisites that I need for this, are there? I just download it, run it, and bam?
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Sounds like your recovery's corrupt or something, too.
Nah just stick the phone in fastboot, connect, install drivers (if necessary) and run the RUU. It should fix everything else for you
juzz86 said:
Sounds like your recovery's corrupt or something, too.
Nah just stick the phone in fastboot, connect, install drivers (if necessary) and run the RUU. It should fix everything else for you
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Yes!! Everything went well, I thought I was doomed! Haha thanks for your help
AndrewPR52 said:
Yes!! Everything went well, I thought I was doomed! Haha thanks for your help
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Anytime mate. Thanks for posting in the correct section and being specific in your opening post, it helps a lot. Make sure you mark your thread as 'resolved' so others can learn from you
Take care, hope to see you around the forums more!

Rooted HTC Desire S bricked after stock ROM update.

I rooted my HTC Desire S after downgrading it's HBOOT from 2.00 to 1.47 something. I was not satisfied by using customised ROMs with lots of bugs so I flashed stock ROM HTC Saga Asia India and then updated it by mistake or you can say foolishly. Now my phone is not booting and it is stopped on logo screen. I tried to use recovery but it just wiped data and and reboots when I select Install Zip from sd card.
Any fix for this? I have to go to HTC care center or it can be sorted out at home? Thanks in advance.
hi,
i thing you have been flashed wrong RUU, or your procedure is wrong,
have you know your phone's cid
post here your phone's cid, anyone suggest you which ruu file you have to flash.
If you could explain properly and in proper readable font, what steps exactly did you perform to reach this phone state - people would help. As it is, my eyes hurt from looking at your post, I only see huge letters and can't read anything out of them.
it's same case with me..
and now i need some help too
padrik said:
it's same case with me..
and now i need some help too
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I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...[GUIDE] How to be a New User (and not a noob)
I know you've been told to stop tagging your problems on the bottom of others, if I've noticed your posts then I'm sure a mod has.

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