[Resolved] [Q] HTC Desire Stuck in Fastboot - Noob! - General Questions and Answers

I know its been asked plenty of times before, but everything I found either didn't work or I didn't understand...
So before I start, I'll apologize ahead of time for any annoyance or stupid questions, cause I'm gonna need some explanations.
I'm on an HTC Desire (U.S. Cellular) rooted and S-Off. Earlier today it was working fine. I went to restore a ROM backup through ROM Manager that I had and everything was going ok. ClockworkMod Recovery started to install the backup, but after a couple seconds it looked like it froze. I waited a while and I proceeded to do a battery pull (I've actually had to do this many other times when installing roms, and I never had problems). Right as I took the battery out I saw the Desire's screen, and it was just starting to continue the installation as I pulled the battery.
No problem, I thought. But when I went to reboot my phone, it took me directly into Fastboot. So I pulled the battery again, and the same thing happened. I cleared my storage with no luck. And after searching countless threads (like I said before), I either don't entirely understand what people are suggesting or their suggestions aren't working.
That's when I decided to join XDA to get a personalized answer. Can anyone help me with this in a (very) explained/easy to understand way?
I don't know if it will help, but here's what the HBOOT menu says at the top:
-Revolutionary-
BRAVOC DVT2 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.06.1002
MICROP-051e
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-2.15.00.11.16
Thanks in advance!

You need to find a .zip of the current ROM you're running and install it from ClockWorkMod recovery (if you can access it and have it installed). Seeing as you can still access Fastboot, all hope is not lost just yet
As much as everyone likes making backups, they really introduce a lot more problems and quirks than they're worth A clean flash each time, while more work, produces better, cleaner results. A lot of the issues people see relating to flashing and bugs have more to do with restoring their app/system backups than the actual ROM itself!
Failing that, you'll need a stock US Cellular RUU (ROM Update Utility) from HTC to return the unit - including recovery, bootloader and radio (you'll lose S-OFF too) - completely to stock. Extreme, but often when you find yourself stuck outside the OS it's better to go back and start from scratch
If there's anything else you need let me know!
Good luck!

juzz86 said:
You need to find a .zip of the current ROM you're running and install it from ClockWorkMod recovery (if you can access it and have it installed). Seeing as you can still access Fastboot, all hope is not lost just yet
As much as everyone likes making backups, they really introduce a lot more problems and quirks than they're worth A clean flash each time, while more work, produces better, cleaner results. A lot of the issues people see relating to flashing and bugs have more to do with restoring their app/system backups than the actual ROM itself!
Failing that, you'll need a stock US Cellular RUU (ROM Update Utility) from HTC to return the unit - including recovery, bootloader and radio (you'll lose S-OFF too) - completely to stock. Extreme, but often when you find yourself stuck outside the OS it's better to go back and start from scratch
If there's anything else you need let me know!
Good luck!
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As far as the first method, I just drop it into my SD card on my computer correct? Under computer is D: Recovery (I'm on Windows). Would I drop it in there or in the Recovery folder within it?
Also, when I'm in CWM Recovery and I select any of the options, the ROM Manager icon pops up (its normally just a watermark). This has been a common problem for me, I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong.
I'll work on the USCC RUU as well, at this point I really don't mind if I lose everything as long as I get it working again!
Thanks for the help!

AndrewPR52 said:
As far as the first method, I just drop it into my SD card on my computer correct? Under computer is D: Recovery (I'm on Windows). Would I drop it in there or in the Recovery folder within it?
Also, when I'm in CWM Recovery and I select any of the options, the ROM Manager icon pops up (its normally just a watermark). This has been a common problem for me, I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong.
I'll work on the USCC RUU as well, at this point I really don't mind if I lose everything as long as I get it working again!
Thanks for the help!
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Yep, grab the .zip and put the SD card in a reader. Once it shows, just paste it onto the card (root directory, not in any folders). Then boot into CWM and 'flash zip from SD', 'choose zip file' and flash away.
I wouldn't stress about the icon popping up, as long as the recovery is doing what you're telling it to
My most recommended option is the RUU. It'll sort out all your quirks, it just takes a little while to get everything back the way you like it. The benefits are there, though
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This thread will help you a lot. There's USCC RUUs in there!

juzz86 said:
Yep, grab the .zip and put the SD card in a reader. Once it shows, just paste it onto the card (root directory, not in any folders). Then boot into CWM and 'flash zip from SD', 'choose zip file' and flash away.
I wouldn't stress about the icon popping up, as long as the recovery is doing what you're telling it to
My most recommended option is the RUU. It'll sort out all your quirks, it just takes a little while to get everything back the way you like it. The benefits are there, though
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This thread will help you a lot. There's USCC RUUs in there!
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Ok, I'm downloading the stock 2.2 RUU now (hopefully that's the right one?). As far as CWM Recovery, the icon pops up and that's all that's on the screen, until I press the power button again and it brings me back to the menu. None of the actions work at all.
Anyway, I'm hoping this RUU works. There aren't any other pre-requisites that I need for this, are there? I just download it, run it, and bam?

AndrewPR52 said:
Ok, I'm downloading the stock 2.2 RUU now (hopefully that's the right one?). As far as CWM Recovery, the icon pops up and that's all that's on the screen, until I press the power button again and it brings me back to the menu. None of the actions work at all.
Anyway, I'm hoping this RUU works. There aren't any other pre-requisites that I need for this, are there? I just download it, run it, and bam?
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Sounds like your recovery's corrupt or something, too.
Nah just stick the phone in fastboot, connect, install drivers (if necessary) and run the RUU. It should fix everything else for you

juzz86 said:
Sounds like your recovery's corrupt or something, too.
Nah just stick the phone in fastboot, connect, install drivers (if necessary) and run the RUU. It should fix everything else for you
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Yes!! Everything went well, I thought I was doomed! Haha thanks for your help

AndrewPR52 said:
Yes!! Everything went well, I thought I was doomed! Haha thanks for your help
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Anytime mate. Thanks for posting in the correct section and being specific in your opening post, it helps a lot. Make sure you mark your thread as 'resolved' so others can learn from you
Take care, hope to see you around the forums more!

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How I learned to love the bomb..oops, I mean how I finally got CWM working :D

Okay, here goes the story-
1.Got an Inspire
2.Did the Hack Kit and then installed the Rooted Stock ROM (Discontinued), everything went okay but when trying to reboot into CWM, I got the HTC Screen for a few seconds then blackness, I later determined it was working I just couldn't see it for whatever reason.
3.Okay, I thought I'd try Bubby's One Click and see if that would fix it, it went great too, but CWM still no workie, getting frustated now.
4.I thought I'd try flashing a non-AT&T ROM, since so many have been having issue running one and getting the working, but black screened CWM, I chose CoreDroid's.
5.I put CoreDroid's ZIP on my SD Card, went into ROM Manager and installed it, making sure clear memory and backup current ROM were checked.
6.It rebooted into CWM, which of course I couldn't see, then about 10 minutes later it rebooted, and the beautiful CoreDroid Animation came up, and a few minutes after that I had CoreDroid up and running.
7.Well, I thought, CWM should work fine now, EHHHHH Sorry Johnny (which sounded weird, since my name is Mike ), wrong answer, I rebooted into CWM and there it was again, total blackness.
8.Okay, I noticed in CoreDroid that to be able to flash new Radio's, you had to have Eng S-OFF, so I ran the One Click Eng S-Off Tool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403 , making sure to check the box saying I already have S-Off.
9.It ran, and said it was successful, and I now had Eng S-Off, so I rebooted into Hboot to check, and at the top sure enough, it said Eng S-Off, I then hit PowerDown, which it did, but then....well, go to 10
10.It rebooted into...yep, CWM! Clear and beautiful, it looked wonderful! So booted back up, went into ROM Manager and told it to boot into CWM, it did so and it came up again, no problems! I did it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke, nope, all was well now in CWM Land!
So, how's that for a saga? Ahh, now I can kick back, it's Miller Time, or Dr.Pepper Time in my world, I don't drink
Use this at YOUR OWN RISK! I take no responsibility for bricked or ruined phones, I just posted this in hopes it might help out people having CWM issues. DO NOT send me hate mail because this didn't work for you
Good job bro!! I don't personally have the problem, but I've been following tons who have. Well done!
i did step 8 throu 10 and it works great thanks a mill!
No prob, I'm glad I could help you guys out!
congrads!!! i'm gonna try it out, i really wanna try some of these awesome roms available
Thanks Epic, let me know how it goes for you! I can't figure out what it did, other than maybe some files were corrupted or missing, and doing the Eng S-Off pushed and refreshed whatever was corruped or missing, either way I am glad to have it working again
Very nice discovery, I will in cooperate this into the next version of my program. Thanks a ton.
bubby323 said:
Very nice discovery, I will in cooperate this into the next version of my program. Thanks a ton.
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No Prob Bubby, I'm glad I could help and give something back! I am in full support of you by the way, I think it's pretty slimy how they ganged up on you like that, when all you did was try and make things easier for the community. If I can help out in any way, let me know!
californiarailroader said:
No Prob Bubby, I'm glad I could help and give something back! I am in full support of you by the way, I think it's pretty slimy how they ganged up on you like that, when all you did was try and make things easier for the community. If I can help out in any way, let me know!
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Will do.
I believe (if I'm not mistaken) that ENG S-OFF is the Engineering bootloader... it's not the best way to S-Off, because it puts the Engineer's Test HBOOT onto your phone, which causes some problems for other things. Also, to get back to complete stock, you'll now need to flash a stock HBOOT as well, if I remember correctly.
For that very reason, I would *NOT* incorporate this into your one-click, bubby... it worked for me perfectly the way it is, WITHOUT an Engineering HBOOT. I'd leave this as a possible solution for the ones that actually have the problem.
ClearD said:
I believe (if I'm not mistaken) that ENG S-OFF is the Engineering bootloader... it's not the best way to S-Off, because it puts the Engineer's Test HBOOT onto your phone, which causes some problems for other things. Also, to get back to complete stock, you'll now need to flash a stock HBOOT as well, if I remember correctly.
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I haven't had any issues yet, so hopefully I'm good I wouldn't have even ran it except for the fact that to flash other radios, you need to have it on there. I don't mind doing whatever I have to do to go back to Stock, which I don't plan on doing unless I have to send it in for warranty or insurance.
That said, I just posted it so that it might be of help to others, so I guess try it if you are having problems with CWM showing up properly, otherwise leave it alone
californiarailroader said:
I haven't had any issues yet, so hopefully I'm good I wouldn't have even ran it except for the fact that to flash other radios, you need to have it on there. I don't mind doing whatever I have to do to go back to Stock, which I don't plan on doing unless I have to send it in for warranty or insurance.
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No doubt. I hope I never have to, either... I just remember that with an engineer hboot on the desire, it was a LOT harder to get it back to stock, and had several other issues, and that's why they did away with it in favor of non-ENG HBOOT options. I like how it opens up the phone, though. This is indeed a great find that it works with ours!
EDIT: Ahh, I found it. It's in the G2 Wiki here.
"INSTALLING ENGINEERING HBOOT (DZ/G2/DHD) - OPTIONAL and UNNECESSARY!
Assuming you've backed up your phone with Clockwork's nandroid, you can install the engineering HBOOT (bootloader), which among other things allows you to use fastboot flash (or flashing-over-usb from your computer). This is unnecessary for most users but provides additional functionality for developers.
This is totally optional and dangerous - if the write to the phone partition fails the phone will be bricked. At the moment there is no cure for a phone that has been bricked by a failed hboot install."
That very last line is why Bubby should NOT include this in his one click... you think problems are bad now, wait till someone bricks a device and we can't unbrick it! D:
ClearD said:
No doubt. I hope I never have to, either... I just remember that with an engineer hboot on the desire, it was a LOT harder to get it back to stock, and had several other issues, and that's why they did away with it in favor of non-ENG HBOOT options. I like how it opens up the phone, though. This is indeed a great find that it works with ours!
EDIT: Ahh, I found it. It's in the G2 Wiki here.
"INSTALLING ENGINEERING HBOOT (DZ/G2/DHD) - OPTIONAL and UNNECESSARY!
Assuming you've backed up your phone with Clockwork's nandroid, you can install the engineering HBOOT (bootloader), which among other things allows you to use fastboot flash (or flashing-over-usb from your computer). This is unnecessary for most users but provides additional functionality for developers.
This is totally optional and dangerous - if the write to the phone partition fails the phone will be bricked. At the moment there is no cure for a phone that has been bricked by a failed hboot install."
That very last line is why Bubby should NOT include this in his one click... you think problems are bad now, wait till someone bricks a device and we can't unbrick it! D:
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Thanks for posting that. I was just going by what they said to do in the CoreDroid thread, and it worked for me, thankfully
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FAQ:
Again, it's recommended that you flash radio 26.04.02.17_M2 (Orange ES 1.75.75.2 / HTC WWE 1.72.405.3) or radio_26.06.03.24_M2 (TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1) or Radio 26.05.05.27_M3 - (Orange UK 1.84.61.2)
How do I flash a new radio?
In order to flash other radios you need to have ENG S-OFF. Once your device has that read this thread to learn how to flash a radio.img
How to get ENG S-OFF:
Download the attached "easy S-OFF.zip" at the botton of this FAQ.
Extract to a folder of your choice.
Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled. Connect charge only!)
Open my "Desire HD easy s-off.exe", click "S-OFF it"! Allow possible SuperUser request on your phone.
There could be force closes after the process, just reboot and everything will be fine.
Done. (in bootloader it should now show ENG S-OFF)"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207
No doubt, still a great find. It's definitely a temp cwm fix, so use as necessary, just be careful and DO NOT unplug your phone while it's flashing!
ClearD said:
No doubt, still a great find. It's definitely a temp cwm fix, so use as necessary, just be careful and DO NOT unplug your phone while it's flashing!
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For me, it was a permanent CWM fix
Use this at YOUR OWN RISK! I take no responsibility for bricked or ruined phones, I just posted this in hopes it might help out people having CWM issues.
I just put that in my first post, hopefully it will do it's job
I could get into cwm, no black-screen for me though. Still couldnt do radios. Used this and bam new radio....Thanks for the info.
Lol Cali, remind me to "thank" you tomorrow I've been trying all night, but I'm at the 24 hr limit for "thanks". I appreciate the post update, and this really is a great find. I can't stress that enough lol. In the right hands, an engineering HBOOT is great.
btdt13 said:
I could get into cwm, no black-screen for me though. Still couldnt do radios. Used this and bam new radio....Thanks for the info.
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You are very welcome!
ClearD said:
Lol Cali, remind me to "thank" you tomorrow I've been trying all night, but I'm at the 24 hr limit for "thanks". I appreciate the post update, and this really is a great find. I can't stress that enough lol. In the right hands, an engineering HBOOT is great.
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No problemo, as the Terminator would say

[Q] problem after ace hack kit accessing networks

I am having some bizarre problems after running the ace hack kit to root my Inspire HD. Basically after running step 3 3 S-OFF, SuperCID and More
I cant get access to internet, ie browser, google network etc.
Phone works, sound is ok.
I tried to restore to stock and redo. but I've gone through this loop a few times. and now I'm stuck in no-mans land. cant get completely back to stock and cant get to a full root.
problem originated the first time through when I did not uninstall the HTC sync - I didnt realize it was running as I only installed for the driver.
Then when repeating, I got an incoming call during the process. I think this disrupted the script.
Any ideas
Tonyeff said:
I am having some bizarre problems after running the ace hack kit to root my Inspire HD. Basically after running step 3 3 S-OFF, SuperCID and More
I cant get access to internet, ie browser, google network etc.
Phone works, sound is ok.
I tried to restore to stock and redo. but I've gone through this loop a few times. and now I'm stuck in no-mans land. cant get completely back to stock and cant get to a full root.
problem originated the first time through when I did not uninstall the HTC sync - I didnt realize it was running as I only installed for the driver.
Then when repeating, I got an incoming call during the process. I think this disrupted the script.
Any ideas
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It might be because you are still on the downgraded rom and radio...which if you stopped after step 3, then you probably are
Try flashing this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
It's a rooted stock rom with all the updates, should get everything up and running...then from there you can flash a custom rom if you prefer....
I'm actually kinda stuck between the two. not rooted so I cant run clockwork to flash, but not stock so the root script doesnt run clean.
Tonyeff said:
I'm actually kinda stuck between the two. not rooted so I cant run clockwork to flash, but not stock so the root script doesnt run clean.
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Well that rom can't be flashed using clockwork.....you have to flash that one through hboot....
So if you boot into hboot at the very top it should say whether you are s-off or s-on...if your s-off you are good to go...
If you dont know how to get to hboot...its easy...
-turn off fast boot
-shut down phone
-turn on phone by holding down the power button and volume minus button at the same time, and hold it till the hboot screen loads..then release.
thanks
I have S-off, and I know how to get into Hboot, but I've never used it before.
I've been doing the trial and error thing and its not working too well....
so let me ask a few questions.
I take it that the rom.zip has to be on the sd card. doest the SD card need to be formatted in a specific way?
does the rom file need to be named anything specific?
once I get into Hboot, I believe the optin would be to select recovery.
Will that give me a prompt to select the rom file?
Tonyeff said:
thanks
I have S-off, and I know how to get into Hboot, but I've never used it before.
I've been doing the trial and error thing and its not working too well....
so let me ask a few questions.
I take it that the rom.zip has to be on the sd card. doest the SD card need to be formatted in a specific way?
does the rom file need to be named anything specific?
once I get into Hboot, I believe the optin would be to select recovery.
Will that give me a prompt to select the rom file?
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Instead of answering each specific question..I'll just post the steps, which should answer all your questions....
-Download the rom, (I would suggest the one that allows for side loading, but either is fine)
-rename the zip to....PD98IMG.zip (it has to be named exactly that)
-place it on the root of your SD card (meaning not inside of any folders)
-unplug you phone from your computer
-boot into Hboot....when you get there, dont press anything, just wait...it will automatically locate the zip....the first 2 attempts will fail, then the 3rd one will work....it will then ask you if you would like to update
-push volume up to update
EDIT: no need to format the sd card and when flashing a PD98IMG.zip, you never go into recovery....
EDIT2: once you get this flashed, you can then then download rom manager from the market, and flash clockwork recovery....which will allow you to flash any of the other custom roms using recovery....
If you're S-OFF, then you don't need anything special with teh SDCard (gold card not needed with S-OFF). Just rename the file PD98IMG.ZIP and be sure it is in the root of the SDCard. Don't worry too much; this method is more foolproof than others as the HBOOT does sanity checks on the image files in the zip and won't flash anything but the correct image to the correct partition.
Thanks guys, this worked. I'm back in business... trying not to screw thinkgs up
-my previous experience was rooting a nookcolor, which was a whole different process, since the SD has boot priority.

[Q] rooted success but roms abort

I successfully rooted my inspire today and i believe to have successfully loaded the following rom: (in order to upgrade the radio from the downgraded one)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
when i try to load another rom i get an error saying it failed or aborted.
i also notice that with the above rom i have no internet access. (just shows bars and no E, 3G, H etc) this is causing a problem because i cant get flash clockwork mod to work, its trying to find an internet connection, even with wifi connected i cant get it to load. (or any other internet page)
ideas?
It sounds like the radio probably didn't upgrade. There may be some other issue causing the abort of other ROMs
Also, if you don't have clockworkmod, how are you attempting to load other ROMs? Most are CWM ready, but some are sent as PD98IMG.zip compatible which requires that you indeed have S-OFF.
Check your HBOOT screen (pull then replace battery, hold volume-down then press power-on) and make sure it says S-OFF at the top.
i do have clockwork mod. but at the moment when i try and go to flash clockworkmod recovery it says i dont have a stable internet connection, wifi on or not. Actually i just got it to work.
it does say s-off at the top of the bootloader screen.
"ace pvt ship s-off"
The only reason the rom is getting aborted is because the file is corrupted or you didn't Download it completely.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
i dont think i failed to download it properly or that multiple roms are corrupt, but let me throw this at you...
i use a mac, and when i download a zip file it automatically unzips it then i rezip it. could this be where the problem is occuring?
i have no idea why it automatically decompresses the zip files. ill look into it though.
ive fixed the auto unzip and im going to try and flash the stock rom/radio i posted earlier in the thread. ill post here in a few min as to what happened.
now it looks like its doing something!
it appears to be flashing properly. it asked if i wanted to start the update etc.
ill let you guys know the results in another min.
That's a good sign. HBOOT does some sanity checks on the PD98IMG and won't load unless it like it.
it worked, i can tell the radio is proper now. it picked up the microcell immediately. also, ill just say this, whoever all created all this rooting apps etc are absolute genius's. it blows my mind. lol
solaceofwinter said:
now it looks like its doing something!
it appears to be flashing properly. it asked if i wanted to start the update etc.
ill let you guys know the results in another min.
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That sounds like you are flashing something through the HTC bootloader not CWM. I don't know of any ROMs that are flashed this way. They all should go through CWM. Did you flash CWM on your phone through ROM manager?
i was told in another thread to download the bloat free stock att/updated rom/radio and install it first by renaming it PD98IMG.zip and running bootloader screen.
afterward i can use the rom manager to install roms apparently.
solaceofwinter said:
i was told in another thread to download the bloat free stock att/updated rom/radio and install it first by renaming it PD98IMG.zip and running bootloader screen.
afterward i can use the rom manager to install roms apparently.
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Strange, you may have had other circumstances that required something like that. It will work that way but you need to have CWM on your phone. Were you ever able to flash it successfully? Have you been able to boot into CWM by selecting recovery from the bootloader screen? Note, if you have that "PD98IMG.zip" file on /root of your SD card you will not be able to scroll down and select recovery. The bootloader will always try to "update" if that filename in present.
hhhmmm i notice that after i downloaded rom manager, fixed permissions and restarted it that i have no cell service. rom manager appears to be stuck as well, all i get is a hat with a circle/arrow symbol.
is there a chat room i can get in with one of you guys?
its stuck in rom manager i can use the up/down arrows and the power to select but it doesnt do anything. i cant remove the battery because the cover was put on by the incredible hulk.
okay got battery out. good grief!
booting up.
solaceofwinter said:
its stuck in rom manager i can use the up/down arrows and the power to select but it doesnt do anything. i cant remove the battery because the cover was put on by the incredible hulk.
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Are you in ROM Manager or CWM? ROM Manager is just the app that flashes CWM recovery to your phone. Are you stuck in the black screen with orange text?
it was the black screen with orange text.
i have installed cwm onto the phone, used it to backup the current rom (orignal att, no bloat, good radio)
everything is back up and running and looks nice, signal is fine etc.
at this point can i use it to load a new rom from zip/sd card?
Ok, just saw your last post. You can disregard all of that below. Glad it is working for you now.
Ok, that is CWM recovery.
It sounds like it didn't flash properly or something since you couldn't select any options in the menus. Try re-flashing CWM from ROM Manager and then boot into recovery manually(don't use the boot into recovery option from ROM Manager). Power the phone down. Hold volume down and press the power button. You should be able to scroll down to the recovery option in the bootloader and select it. It will then take you back into CWM. (Make sure that PD98IMG.zip file is not on the /root of your SD card or the bootloader will try and install it and you won't be able to get to CWM recovery.
Just make sure you can move around the menus and just select reboot the system. Then you will know that CWM is working properly and you will be able to install ROMs from there.
i think what happened is i accidentally told it to go into recovery, thats when i got hung up. i think the rom/radio from the pd98img.zip worked fine. ill test as you say.

[Q] Couple of problems with the Desire S

Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
sukrit7 said:
Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
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Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
Thanks a lot for answering and helping me with my problem.
enigmaamit said:
Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
I've understood this but does it also mean that unless i'm on the Orange network, I won't get the update?
Also, great guess on where I got the phone from
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I understand. There are two files that i think are relevant.
1. HTC-ANDROID-GOLD_CARD. I haven't put this in as far as I remember. Size-0 bytes.
2. PG88DIAG.nbh. I'm presuming this is the file you were talking about? There is a slight difference in name,though.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
This is what is weird,Amit. If I pull the battery when the phone is at the device info and clear s58 data screen, it always hard resets. All software/contacts,basically anything on the phone memory disappears. Why does this happen?
If you think this behavior is normal then i'll remove the file in the memory card and try again.
Thanks a ton!
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
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Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
sukrit7 said:
Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
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Why don't we start by removing the PG88DIAG file from the sd card (back it up on PC), and also the GOLD CARD file, which obviously was used by the nefarious Gaffar guys to s-off your phone...,
This will hopefully give you access to bootloader and fastboot so you can root and flash a custom recovery. Once you've done that, you can flash whatever ROM you like.
I'd recommend Endymion if you want the best possible sense 3.5 experience...
Let me know if removing those two files allows you to remain in bootloader and access recovery...
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
sukrit7 said:
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
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Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
enigmaamit said:
Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
This didn't work. I left it on two times for more than 15 minutes.
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
I can do this without root too,right?
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
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android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
sukrit7 said:
android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
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Yup, everything seems to be fine. Go ahead and root your phone... flash 4EXT Recoery via 4EXT Recovery Updater app, and then after taking a backup, and doing a full wipe, flash whatever ROM you want to...
Read the instructions and guides carefully in the general and Development section prior to this, and remember...DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY WHILE THE PHONE IS STILL ON! It's better to try other methods to reboot it, or even let it discharge over time and switch off by itself, rather that attempt to pull battery. Othert than this, i think you're ok to flash a new ROM, and enter the amazing world of custom ROMs...
Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
sukrit7 said:
Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
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Congrats!
If you want a Sense 3 ROM, go for Hyperion
For Sense 3.5 (My personal favourite) go for Endymion
For crazy theming options, you can try MIUI from MIUI.us
If you like plain stock look.... Cyanogenmod.
I would however still recommend Endymion (Though i like v2.2 better than v3)
P.S. Just a friendly question... Gaffar me kitne ka pada ye phone? I bought my phone new...but my wife wants one now and i don't want to put in the money for a new phone from a mobile store...
i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
sukrit7 said:
i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
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You can get the v3.1 without the addon initially. See how it works for you... Then you can flash the addon package if you feel like Modding the ROM. I'm still on v2.2 because I didn't feel the need to upgrade.
Please do get me the number of your guy in gaffar as I'm planning to get a galaxy note as well as a desire s...
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
Hey. Looked everywhere for the number but I just can't find it. Awfully sorry,man.
I don't know if you've ever been to Gaffar before but just incase you haven't,do ensure that you buy from a proper shop and not people with cabinets full of phones. These guys will offer you cheaper prices but will also disappear in a couple of days.
There are only 5-6 big shops which sell import phones,most of them are decent and will offer you a week or two worth of hardware guarantee. Enough for you to atleast test the phone out.
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[Q] HELP sensation flashed ROM wont start

Hello, first I would like to apologize as I am clearly a noob and have very little idea of what I am talking about.
I'm sure my problem has been asked before and that if I had any idea what the problem was, I could find the exact solution I need here on the forums. Unfortunately I don't even know what to search for. If any one would like to complain go ahead but please..just help me.
So I decided to root my HTC Sensation, which I believe I did without any problem, I followed the guide on this site. Nothing went wrong and as far as I was aware everything was working fine.
I then decided to flash a new ROM onto the phone. I chose the Android Revolution HD as this looked to be the popular choice. I got it from here and I believed I had followed the instructions on how to install it properly.
However, after installing the ROM I came upon a problem, the phone would not start, it would just go to the HTC boot screen and stay there forever. At first I couldn't even get back to the hboot screen, but after inserting a new and better charged battery I was able to get there, but every time I do it attempts to update and says " CID incorrect! Update Fail! Press <POWER> to reboot." and I cant do anything but get stuck in this continuous loop.
If I take the SD card out I can access the HBOOT properly, however trying to do a recovery at this point doesn't seem to work.
I have no idea what to do and would appreciate any help anyone can give me. I would be happy to just have my phone back to the way it was originally.
Thanks
Might wanna try a RUU? not sure but hopefully it should do..
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First off your MAJOR issue is that you flashed a rom for the Desire HD section(As soon as I clicked on your link, it said Android Revolution 7.0.2... I was like wtf? There is no 7.0.2 on the sensation forum) ... I think that's the prob... for now! Flash the correct rom and stay in the right section!
Second, I don't see why you can't get into recovery. Remove your sd card, power on the phone by holding vol-down +power to get to bootloader, select recovery and flash the right rom. I would also recommend that you delete the P58IMG.zip off your sd card as well. I'm assuming you have it on there for the ICS firmware but flashed the incorrect rom. You are far from bricking it, but keep this up and it might turn into one!
Thanks, your post is certainly reasuring though I am still not sure how to continue. Also it is possible I gave the wrong link to the rom I used, though it definitely was the same name.
Anyway what Im thinking I have to do now is 1st delete p58img.zip file from my SDcard and put the right rom on there, could you link to one?
So by removing that file I should be able to access the SDcard again and flash the new rom?
Dashdor said:
Thanks, your post is certainly reasuring though I am still not sure how to continue. Also it is possible I gave the wrong link to the rom I used, though it definitely was the same name.
Anyway what Im thinking I have to do now is 1st delete p58img.zip file from my SDcard and put the right rom on there, could you link to one?
So by removing that file I should be able to access the SDcard again and flash the new rom?
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Here's the right link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
This is an ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Rom
So you need:
1) SuperCID (so that you can flash any firmware)
Instructions
2) Flash the ICS firmware (otherwise you can't use the ICS roms)
http://goo.gl/RcbMy (and make SURE that there aren't any errors - errors such as not doing the SuperCID process correctly, therefore it can't flash - I say this because it seems like many users think the firmware is flashed and then find out their rom won't start, so don't be stupid and check whether or not an error has occurred just incase!)
3) Pick a rom
Revolution
Elegancia
Insert Coin
4) Flash the 4EXT recovery, I'm sure you already have clockwork mod on there but I think that's a bit buggier... so if I were you, I'd go for the 4EXT touch recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
5) If you wish, you can also flash for example: tweaks and addons by awsm devs which make our phone much better if you wish!
6) you're good to go! It's that easy.
Yeah, all you have to do is remove that P58IMG.zip from your sd card and your bootloader won't force you to update or w/e. You'll be fine.
And don't forget to md5 check for roms you download !
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Thank you very much. It seems I hadn't performed the SuperCID part. Once I had done that I installed Elegancia and it is working perfectly.
Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me.

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