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[Q] Couple of problems with the Desire S

Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?

sukrit7 said:
Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
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Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.

Thanks a lot for answering and helping me with my problem.
enigmaamit said:
Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
I've understood this but does it also mean that unless i'm on the Orange network, I won't get the update?
Also, great guess on where I got the phone from
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I understand. There are two files that i think are relevant.
1. HTC-ANDROID-GOLD_CARD. I haven't put this in as far as I remember. Size-0 bytes.
2. PG88DIAG.nbh. I'm presuming this is the file you were talking about? There is a slight difference in name,though.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
This is what is weird,Amit. If I pull the battery when the phone is at the device info and clear s58 data screen, it always hard resets. All software/contacts,basically anything on the phone memory disappears. Why does this happen?
If you think this behavior is normal then i'll remove the file in the memory card and try again.
Thanks a ton!
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
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Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?

sukrit7 said:
Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
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Why don't we start by removing the PG88DIAG file from the sd card (back it up on PC), and also the GOLD CARD file, which obviously was used by the nefarious Gaffar guys to s-off your phone...,
This will hopefully give you access to bootloader and fastboot so you can root and flash a custom recovery. Once you've done that, you can flash whatever ROM you like.
I'd recommend Endymion if you want the best possible sense 3.5 experience...
Let me know if removing those two files allows you to remain in bootloader and access recovery...

Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?

sukrit7 said:
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
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Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...

enigmaamit said:
Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
This didn't work. I left it on two times for more than 15 minutes.
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
I can do this without root too,right?
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
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android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details

sukrit7 said:
android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
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Yup, everything seems to be fine. Go ahead and root your phone... flash 4EXT Recoery via 4EXT Recovery Updater app, and then after taking a backup, and doing a full wipe, flash whatever ROM you want to...
Read the instructions and guides carefully in the general and Development section prior to this, and remember...DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY WHILE THE PHONE IS STILL ON! It's better to try other methods to reboot it, or even let it discharge over time and switch off by itself, rather that attempt to pull battery. Othert than this, i think you're ok to flash a new ROM, and enter the amazing world of custom ROMs...

Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.

sukrit7 said:
Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
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Congrats!
If you want a Sense 3 ROM, go for Hyperion
For Sense 3.5 (My personal favourite) go for Endymion
For crazy theming options, you can try MIUI from MIUI.us
If you like plain stock look.... Cyanogenmod.
I would however still recommend Endymion (Though i like v2.2 better than v3)
P.S. Just a friendly question... Gaffar me kitne ka pada ye phone? I bought my phone new...but my wife wants one now and i don't want to put in the money for a new phone from a mobile store...

i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.

sukrit7 said:
i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
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You can get the v3.1 without the addon initially. See how it works for you... Then you can flash the addon package if you feel like Modding the ROM. I'm still on v2.2 because I didn't feel the need to upgrade.
Please do get me the number of your guy in gaffar as I'm planning to get a galaxy note as well as a desire s...
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.

Hey. Looked everywhere for the number but I just can't find it. Awfully sorry,man.
I don't know if you've ever been to Gaffar before but just incase you haven't,do ensure that you buy from a proper shop and not people with cabinets full of phones. These guys will offer you cheaper prices but will also disappear in a couple of days.
There are only 5-6 big shops which sell import phones,most of them are decent and will offer you a week or two worth of hardware guarantee. Enough for you to atleast test the phone out.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

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[Q] Flashing Generic Firmware with S-off

Hi Guys,
Apologies if this has been discussed before. I have looked for answers everywhere and i could not find any.
Ok, I have a Desire S which is branded to Telstra (Australia), I was sick of all the useless app that Telstra had put in and wanted to get rid of all those.
I used revolutionary method to get it s-off and install Generic Firmware. After that i was happy not having any of Telstra's bloatware on the phone. Then came the update of 2.3.5 and as usual downloaded the firmware and used RRU to Update. Big mistake on my part, i didn't read anything and just tried to push RRU on the phone, the result was White screen with HTC logo and nothing past that. Tried everything no luck, then looking for answers, i found a solution to remove revolutionary, I could see revolutionary gone in HBOOT but the phone would not start.
to solve this i went to telstra to send it to repair, warranty was there and when telstra asked what happened, i said i was updating an app and it went to this screen, Tech guys said this is the similar 3rd problem in a day. so after 5 days the phone got repaired, New IMEI number and logic board had to be replaced.
Now all over again i have bunch of telstra bloatware on the phone. I want to get Generic 2.3.5 with sense 3.0. what is the process to follow so that i don't make the same mistake again?
All i want to do is get it s-off and install generic Firmware, the easiest way possible something like revolutionary. I tried going with ADB but found a bit risky.
Any advice in getting Generic HTC Desire S (2.3.5 with Sense 3.0) the easiest way would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
HBOOT info:
SAGA PVT SHIP s-ON RL
HBOOT-0.98.0002
RADIO-3805.04.02.01_M
eMMC-boot
Mar 30 2011,17:29:31
Thanks

To get a generic firmware from some other area, you need to get Super CID. I don't know much about it, just that CID's like a region code, Super CID enables you to get generic ROMs from any region. Only XTC Clip can do that on a Desire S as far as i know. Flashing a custom ROM after Revolutionary S-OFF is a better option....
Listen, I really recommend you to use a Custom ROM based on the update if you are ready to S-OFF. Hyperion is much faster and has a lot more features. Hell, if you do S-OFF, why settle for Sense 3? Get Sense 3.5. I recommend endymion.

@shrome99: Thanks dude, correct me if i am wrong, to get a generic firmware onto the desire s there is no option but to go for s-off and customs roms are better than stock ones, the reason i am asking is i have not used custom roms and willing to stick to stock.
What is the easiest way to get the rom sorted, I know how to get the custom rom installed there are too many posts everywhere that you can read through and make a decision and find roms of your choice, but there seems to be nothing about stock roms, i am sure there are people who are willing to get stock rom and their carrier is not rolling out the update coz they want more junk to be added.
Steps on how to get generic stock rom would be really helpful.
Thanks again

zryvffn said:
@shrome99: Thanks dude, correct me if i am wrong, to get a generic firmware onto the desire s there is no option but to go for s-off and customs roms are better than stock ones, the reason i am asking is i have not used custom roms and willing to stick to stock.
What is the easiest way to get the rom sorted, I know how to get the custom rom installed there are too many posts everywhere that you can read through and make a decision and find roms of your choice, but there seems to be nothing about stock roms, i am sure there are people who are willing to get stock rom and their carrier is not rolling out the update coz they want more junk to be added.
Steps on how to get generic stock rom would be really helpful.
Thanks again
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+1 to above
IMO, if you're considering making a change then put on a decent custom (see my sig) you won't regret it

ben_pyett said:
+1 to above
IMO, if you're considering making a change then put on a decent custom (see my sig) you won't regret it
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Hey Ben, Thanks for this, I went ahead and got the ROM as you suggested. Installed the base verison, then the add-on and the update. I have been palying around with it and so far loving it.
Only problem tough, I cannot use Market. I can open market look for apps and download, but when it starts to install, the phone re-boots. any known issues with this and is there a workaround to sort this out.

Ok, so here is what i did, Flashed Base version again and market started working again with no issues. Another issue which is not so much of an issue but only at night, why does the soft keys don't lit up on Desire S?. any way to fix these. Thanks guys.

Sometimes firing up and signing into Google talk makes the market start working again
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

sadsac said:
Sometimes firing up and signing into Google talk makes the market start working again
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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Thanks for that, I did a search for the issue and did the same thing as you had advised, but didn't work. Then I flashed the base version again and then the update, which worked. Don't know what had happened there.
But yeah loving the new rom and i would say was a better move to be on a custom ROM and getting rid of Carrier's junk installed.
Cheers!

Ok, so instead of creating a new post i have decided to post it here since it is already been discussed.
I was happy with rooted phone and endymion Rom and was happy until my phone started heating up and restarted on its own as if it had a mind of its own, I called HTC and they advised to send it for repair, i had to unroot the phone and sent for repair. Got the phone back with updated version and i need help rooting the phone.
when i boot the phone in fast boot this is what i get:
****LOCKED****
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-BOOT
Aug 22 2011, 15:22:13
Android Version 2.3.5
HTC Sense Verison 3.0
Software Number: 2.14.841.4
Baseband Version: 2.14.841.4 CL 184593 Release-Keys
Now i need to Root the phone again so i can be another happy user of endymion.
I am looking at this guide and needed help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636&page=1
The oldest RUU i can find for my provider is RUU_Saga_Telstra_WWE_1.36.841.3_Radio_20.28d.30.0805U_3805.04.02.01_M_release_184558_signed.exe
I was reading the guide and this is where i am confused.
6.This command will gets you out of adb shell.. so we need to get back to adb shell and you will see "#" sign..meaning you are temp rooted and we can then proceed to changing MISC_VERSION:
Code:
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp
./misc_version -s 1.27.405.6 .
./misc_version -s 1.27.405.6 do i change this to 1.36.841.3 or leave it as it is?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

IMO you can leave it as it is. 1.27.xxx is older than your RUU version so I think it will work fine.

chninkel said:
IMO you can leave it as it is. 1.27.xxx is older than your RUU version so I think it will work fine.
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Thanks for that, yes i did follow the guide, and then got stuck again. The problem i am facing is after pushing all the files as of the guide, i run tacoroot the phone restarts and all i get is a red triangle with exclamation mark in it and nothing else happens.
then to get rid of it, i pull out the battery and do a complete factory reset. I have done this about 5 times now but still the same.
Also tried using super one click but that dint work either and freezes on waiting for device.
anything i have missed or is there any other solutions, any GUI programs or video to help if i am missing something.
any help is appreciated.
Thanks

I believe that you have to boot the original recovery before using tacoroot to get it working ( I mean boot it once, then boot normally).
After using tacoroot --root, your phone will probably go in bootloop, don't worry about that and change your misc_version as described in the tutorial.
And please, stop pulling out the battery, you will brick your phone this way.

chninkel said:
And please, stop pulling out the battery, you will brick your phone this way.
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+1
You can pull it out as often as you want..but at least you should know the risk.
Sent by my fingers to your head

chninkel said:
I believe that you have to boot the original recovery before using tacoroot to get it working ( I mean boot it once, then boot normally).
After using tacoroot --root, your phone will probably go in bootloop, don't worry about that and change your misc_version as described in the tutorial.
And please, stop pulling out the battery, you will brick your phone this way.
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I don't understand,"boot into original recovery". To try i booted the phone in HBOOT and pressed recovery and same thing the triangle shows. am i missing something here.
EDIT: I went till the last step and this is what i get "Patching and backing up partition 17...
Error Opening backup file.
#"
any idea

zryvffn said:
To try i booted the phone in HBOOT and pressed recovery
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That's what I meant.
You can try misc_version_universal to avoid error patching partition 17 (see attachment below).

chninkel said:
That's what I meant.
You can try misc_version_universal to avoid error patching partition 17 (see attachment below).
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Thanks dude, this worked and going thru revolutionary. i did some changes in the steps and will update what i did in a while after i get a rom installed.

Thank you everyone for help and support. i was able to downgrade my HBOOT and install a custom ROM. It would not have been possible if you guys had not supported.
one thing i have learnt is the more you read the more you find things useful and you actually learn how ti weigh your risk and benefits and avoid ending up with an expensive paper weight.
so this is what i did.
after using universal misc version file i was getting 140 error in RUU, boot loader version error, tried 3 time but would not let me get past that, then out of frustration i thought about giving it a last try for good or for worse, in the misc version section i changed a bit.
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp
./misc_version -s 1.36.841.3 (Same number as my RUU)
then RUU went fine and then revolutionary.
well, if any kind of newbie person in trying to root the phone i would suggest to read and if you think you have read enough, its probably you haven't.
special thanks to @chninkel, @eyahl. Thanks Guys for all the support.
Cheers!

[GUIDE] Noobs guide to Rooting and ROM flashing

Hello everyone,
I'm am pretty sure there are many guides in rooting your htc phone as well as flashing a custom ROM. I am also pretty sure that there are guides out there that uses BIG words with not enough Lament words, so here is a simple noob friendly guide to basically make your life easier.
1. Download and install HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
2. Download revolutionary-0.4pre4.zip for windows from http://revolutionary.io
3. Extract it and run revolutionary.exe
4. Connect HTC Sensation to PC and select HTC Sync.
5. revolutionary.exe should detect your HTC Sensation phone and provide your with details about hboot and serial number.
6. select the hboot version and type the serial number into the box and hit enter.
7. It will now try to root phone. Wait and the phone will restart a few times.
8. When it's done, it'll ask to install clockworkmod recovery (cwm). Choose Y for yes or N to refuse. Install recovery based on what the ROM suggests. For ARHD, it suggested EXT4 touch recovery, so press N.
9. Press volume button up or down to navigate and select reboot phone by pressing power button.
10. Download EXT4 touch recovery at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759 (thanks to Madmaxx82)
11. Read the Read Me to learn how to install EXT4 Touch recovery.
12. Download firmware 3.32 for the related CID and MID. Be sure to check your phone's CID and MID
13. Download Super Wipe at http://xda.androidrevolution.nl/db_...ndroid_Revolution_HD_Super_Wipe_Sensation.zip
14. Download the ROM found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 (credit to Mike1986)
15. Copy the file PG58IMG.zip to the root of microSD. (root - meaning not in a folder)
16. Copy the super wipe and 6.6.3 ROM zip files to the root of microSD.
17. Power off your phone/ Remove battery from phone
18. Hold volume-down and power button simultaneously to get into bootloader mode.
19. When in Bootloader, it will automatically ask you to update your firmware, press 'yes.'
20. Once the update is complete, immediately take out your battery. (it may sound scary, but it's actually quite safe)
21. Take your MicroSD out and connect it to your pc to remove the PG58IMG.zip and insert it back once completed.
22. Get into boot loader once again (volume down + power button)
23. Now your bootloader screen should read:
-revolutionary-
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.1100
RADIO-11.22.3504.07M
24. Select 'recovery' and it will automatically lead you into 4EXT recovery (the one you installed earlier)
25. Install 'superwipe' script.
26. Select 'install from sd card' and look for the Custom ROM you have copied into the root of your Sd card.
27. During the installation you will be asked the following questions:
-Do you have a TMOUS sensation 4g?.
-Do you want to flash the sony bravia engine support?.
-Do you want to flash Stock or Custom Kernel?
-If you picked custom then you will be given a choice between Faux or Sebastian Kernel
-Do you want to flash HQ camera?
Once again this is all your choice, please read up on what each of them does.
28. When the ROM is fully flashed select back
29. Select reboot from 4ext recovery
30. Done, enjoy ICS with Beats Audio, the first boot should take around 5-10 mins
HAVE FUN ROOTING AND FLASHING CUSTOM ROM NOOBS :-D
Just remember, do this at your own risk, I will not take any responsibility for you Bricking your phone***

Good job!

Prinz069 said:
Good job!
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Thanks, just want other HTC sensation newcomers to enjoy their sensation just as much as i have.. Buying the sensation/xe is the first step.. Rooting and flashing ROM is the next step Cheers~ and happy rooting!

Some feedback to your thread
Hi, i wanted to give some feedback about this.
Regarding the content of your post, you might want to correct some things you've wrote that make the guide not so simply but confusing and inaccurate... sheer constructive criticism.
"Download firmware 3.30 for the related CID and MID.". If you are pretending to guide someone on how to flash any "newly" released ICS ROM you need to download and flash 3.32 firmware, not 3.30.
"This phone MID is modelid: PG5813000 and CID is cidnum: HTC__044. So if new kernel appear in the future, be sure to download from this category only.". You meant your specific phone, right?. Every guy out there has a different phone and more likely a different CID. There is a CID thread just in case you want to check out some of the available CIDs. Also, (and even more confusing) CID and model aren't related in any ways to kernel or firmware, what do you mean with "a new kernel appear in the future"? we have new kernels almost every 2 days from faux, sebastian, show-p and other developers, and what category are you talking about specifically?
In the third point you wrote It will now trying to root phone. Wait and the phone will restart a few times. Revolutionay tool is intended to S-OFF the device, not rooting. Then your guide isn't about how to root the phone as the thread title says ... i think this is the guide noobs are actually looking for.
If you are quoting or using content from others posts the correct thing to do is to give proper credit to the author i.e: Mike1986., authors of revolutionary tool, madmaxx among others.
I'm speaking for myself here and i want to ask you kindly to credit my work in the things you've pretty much copied literally from my thread [GUIDE][APR.16.12] How to flash ICS 3.32 firmware | flash/update ARHD 6.6.x ICS ROM, first post, steps 4 and 5.
I'm reffering to steps 18 to 37 in your guide which are 99% the exact same words i've wrote in my guide. I've spent some time and effort writing that guide, While i don't see why you wanna re-write my guide If you want to use my work it's ok, i don't mind, but please at least give proper credit and don't go around saying is your guide and your work when 50% of it's copy-pasted from my thread.
Also i've taken down the download link of 4EXT recovery touch flashing tool (steps 11 and 12 in your post) which i've modded and packed myself and it's also posted in my guide, if you want the dropbox download link i can give it to you, but again, proper credit.
You've open a thread in Android development section, and this is clearly not a development thread. Pleas ask a mod to move your thread to the correct section. Nevermind, thread has been moved already. Thanks to the mods.
Thanks

Couldn't agree more, it's not that we don't appreciate the effort but there are enough guides on this forum and all the info is there for grabs, you just have to find it. There's no need to create new guides because people don't use the search button.

Hello everyone.. Not that i wanted to copy any of your work and take credit for it, as i have never seen your guide.. I am sorry if i have offended you in any way.. I practically just wrote down what my friend told me over the phone, as he was explaining to me the proper way to root as well as put in a custom ROM on my sensation. I did not in any way meant or did not know that i was copying anybody's work. As far as i know, i only wrote this guide to help beginners, as i was once one. The only guide i have read was mike's guide on the front page of the ARHD thread, which at first i did not really understand. Another thing, it's not that i didnt want to give mike credit and take all the credit for my own, as you can see i am using's Mike's ARHD banner as well as i have given links to his thread. As for your guide, i will rephrase everything if it makes you feel better cheers mate~ The most important thing for me is to expand the sensation community.

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Couldn't agree more, it's not that we don't appreciate the effort but there are enough guides on this forum and all the info is there for grabs, you just have to find it. There's no need to create new guides because people don't use the search button.
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Brother, if there is enough guides on this forum, why do new beginners always ask the same questions? ..well let me tell you my experience, understand certain guides is a bit difficult as they contain words not familiar to beginners. Once again, i made this guide so i wouldnt have to refer to anyone else's guide if someone else needed my assistance/help. cheers mate~

Would like to once again apologize for my premature posting of this thread. I should have asked my friend what his sources were. Thanks again all for the heads up

Keupie said:
Couldn't agree more, it's not that we don't appreciate the effort but there are enough guides on this forum and all the info is there for grabs, you just have to find it. There's no need to create new guides because people don't use the search button.
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Well there is no absolute need, but then again he is free to do as he pleases.
If he (or ANYONE for that matter) is simply trying to help the noobs that come on here every day asking, "How i root plzzz help thx", then I am all for it.
But I don't think anyone should be denied the right to create these sorts of guides. Plus, the poorer written ones eventually die anyway, its the way a forum works.
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Would like to once again apologize for my premature posting of this thread. I should have asked my friend what his sources were. Thanks again all for the heads up
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No problem, but next time read up a bit more, and be more precise. Also, remember to give credit to the required people, as somebody stated earlier.

Leemur89 said:
Brother, if there is enough guides on this forum, why do new beginners always ask the same questions?
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Sometimes it's just sheer laziness. Other times they may not understand other guides or just need reassurance.
Either way, I appreciate you taking the time to create this.

Like i said, offcourse we appreciate the effort! What i'm trying to say is that people need to use the search function more. There are enough guides, If you don't understand something in the guide than ask it in the thread, no need to make a new thread about it.
Also, my experience is that If you use the search function enough, you will learn a lot about your phone and the ways to modify it. With that knowledge you can help other people. It's a vicious circle ;-)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA

Simple way... just use hasoon2000's all in one toolkit from dev section

Im lost
OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
954-214-6104

Thanks!
Hey man thanks for the easy guide man! Helps heaps!

hortaja said:
OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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Bro, i understand what you're saying.. haha trust me.. My only advice to you is.. If i were you and my phone was of great importance. Don't root your device.. Even if the process is quite easy and most of the time people don't brick their devices, there is still a small percentage.. The best thing you could do is update to ICS via official HTC release, which if i am not mistaken, has already been done in many countries. Cheers mate.

hortaja said:
OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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Ok pal paste us a link to the video you followed. Now, does your phone still start up properly? If so then this should be easy. Power off the device fully. Remove the battery for around 20 seconds or so then reinsert. While holding down volume down also hold power until the device boots to bootloader. (Bootloader is equal to BIOS for a PC). It will give you some information. Post that Info up here. If it says s-off then using the volume buttons scroll down to recovery and push power. If you see a red triangle and/or exclamation mark then you have a stock recovery. If it says clockwork mod recovery then you are s-off with a custom recovery and all seemingly has went well
Also Cid stands for carrier identification and is used for carrier information and software I think. Mid is used to reference the country/ area you are in, for software as well as networks. They are both used together. Ruu stands for rom utility update and is a HTC program for updating HTC phone software and ext4 is a custom recovery that uses an exit4 partition on the sdcard I believe
sent from my android powered beast!

hortaja said:
OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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oppps. XD guess i didnt answer your questions properly..sorry i misread.. The first thing we need to know is whether or not your phone can start up and does not just blank out when you turn it on.

Hey guys, thank you for the quick replies. Yes thank goodness it does power up.
ok here is the youtube video i followed, opps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvg0i8in96M
All I got was to turn the phone to s-off but not rooted.
So yes the phone functions, but not my voicemails. It now say
"This phone was associated with a different account. Do you want to delete the exsisting voicemails?"
So I would like to proceed with the upgrade to ICS, unless becuase I am SUCH a noob you all think I should just some how revert back to S-on and leave my phone alone?
I just read here all the time, you should root, its SOOO easy... and it not if you are a noob..
Thank you all for your time, and I love this site.
Jerry
954-214-6104

hortaja said:
Hey guys, thank you for the quick replies. Yes thank goodness it does power up.
ok here is the youtube video i followed, opps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvg0i8in96M
All I got was to turn the phone to s-off but not rooted.
So yes the phone functions, but not my voicemails. It now say
"This phone was associated with a different account. Do you want to delete the exsisting voicemails?"
So I would like to proceed with the upgrade to ICS, unless becuase I am SUCH a noob you all think I should just some how revert back to S-on and leave my phone alone?
I just read here all the time, you should root, its SOOO easy... and it not if you are a noob..
Thank you all for your time, and I love this site.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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i cant see it being an issue bud firstly, i am yet to own this device (but soon! roll on payday ^^) so i can only take you as far as rooting and custom recoverys, but for ics updates youd best ask others go to this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 and follow steps 2 through to 4 and then you will have a custom recovery, full root and supercid ^^ after that if you want to try an ice cream sandwich rom look
at the dev thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112&order=desc&page=2 always double check that you understand what your about to do before you do it, and all threads *should* have full instructions on how to flash them. remember that installing a custom rom will WIPE ALL YOUR DATA so remember to do a nandroid back up from your recovery good luck pal and enjoy

OK guys, well I did not chicken out. I followed the video once again, but this time used my original stock SD card and everything worked. I am rooted! so now to the next steps...
wish me luck.
Jerry

I've gone and made a paper weight

Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?

1st of all WRONG FORUM!!!!!! This is for Development, not questions. That's what general is for. Second, there's a couple threads in General about this. Just hit search.
Magical Mods, may we please have this moved. Thanks.
Sent from my MIUI V4

take out your sdcard and use an adapter to put a stock PG59IMG.zip on your sdcard (make sure its named PG59IMG.zip) and go back into the bootloader. It will confirm if you want to install the zip and in 10 mins you'll be back on stock. Oh and ^ plus one please next time post in general as this has nothing to do with developing.

wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."

blackknightavalon said:
Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."
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Yes, the correct terminology is 'Take a chill pill, Bill.
Can't get chill without the Bill.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Sorry I wasn't "helpful". I'll do better to assist you next time....or just ignore it

I can't help you and I expect you to get a satisfactory answer.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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XMC, a Dev. He helped you, we where all noobs once. You should check out the "Welcome to XDA Video". Just follow the Rules. That's all, follow the rules.
Sent from my MIUI V4

To supplement what Agent said the appropriate section for this would be the General section.
Additionally the development area is where devs post new roms, tools and hacks. Users can add observations to these threads to further development.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

fsured said:
Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?
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"tried a few different things" to get S-Off?
There are two ways of getting S-off. One is done with Revolution if your HBOOT is earlier than 1.45. The other is juopunutbear if your HBOOT is 1.45. Did you check your HBOOT version before "trying a few things"?
Did you read the instructions for the all-in-one toolkit? Or possibly just follow the steps in order in the program? It's specifically designed so you don't need s-off.
I'm assuming you must have flashed CWM recovery since you said you did a factory reset. Did you do Juopunutbear or revolution, or are you planning on leaving S-ON? If S-ON, Did you flash a kernel(boot.img) using the toolkit? If you can get into HBOOT and get into recovery, there's no reason you should need to revert to stock. However, if your plan is to continue doing steps before reading the instructions, you should probably revert to stock anyway before you really do brick your device.
This link will provide you everything you need to get your device running. Just follow the spteps from the beginning. If your bootloader is already unlocked from HTCDev, then start at the step directly after unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809

The toolkit worked well for me (even though it was my first attempt at anything), so I guess I'd echo that. It also matched with the step-by-step guides on stuff I found elsewhere in the forum. BUT there is a real difference in the method and order of things for the two hboots, hence KarriOn's questions.
However, having rooted and S-Offed, I then got a bit cocky and managed to end up in a not dissimilar position to you! Total panic, but I managed to get out by thinking through what I'd done, researching, and the cause and hence solution became clear. Took a night sleeping on it, and 2 hours.
what HBOOT?
Did you unlock the boot loader?
Did you get recovery on
Did you do a backup before going any further?
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.

fsured said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.
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You don't need S-Off for ROMs to work. It sounds like you didn't flash a kernel after installing a ROM. The instructions on doing this are listed in the all-in one tool thread, the "flash ics roms with s-on" thread, and even on the all-in one tool interface itself.

fsured said:
I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!
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Flashing SuperUser won't get you to S-Off. Hasoon2000 has two different toolkits. One that will guide you through the rooting process and the other on how to gain S-Off using the Juopunutbear method. Having S-Off isn't necessary to root but it will take a few extra steps to flash a different ROM with S-ON. I was too much of a chicken to try the S-Off method since there is some risk involved but several have reported that it worked successfully for them.

Buying a Sensation next week. I'm really confused. Any help?

Hey,
Sorry if this is annoying, but I'm buying a Sensation next week and I'm confused about a few things. I've read a lot of the threads here and I'm still really confused on where to start with this phone. I'm not a total noob to android, as I have a sidekick right now but from the looks of the forums this phone is quite different with stuff like root, custom roms, etc., so I'm pretty much a complete noob with this one. So where do I start with this phone? I'm not sure in what order to do things and for some reasons I'm confused by the guide threads (what order to go in, etc.).
If anyone can help at all that'd be awesome.
Thank you!

magnoidgoat said:
Hey,
Sorry if this is annoying, but I'm buying a Sensation next week and I'm confused about a few things. I've read a lot of the threads here and I'm still really confused on where to start with this phone. I'm not a total noob to android, as I have a sidekick right now but from the looks of the forums this phone is quite different with stuff like root, custom roms, etc., so I'm pretty much a complete noob with this one. So where do I start with this phone? I'm not sure in what order to do things and for some reasons I'm confused by the guide threads (what order to go in, etc.).
If anyone can help at all that'd be awesome.
Thank you!
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Obviously you want to root the phone.. Just start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then flash away whatever ROM you like..

Sindroid said:
Obviously you want to root the phone.. Just start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then flash away whatever ROM you like..
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That thread is outdated and that s-off method will not work unless the phone is still on GB, if the hboot is 1.17 then you can use that guide, but if the hboot is 1.2x (x stands for any number) then use this tool and read the first post carefully http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276
P.S To find hboot take out phone battery and then place it back in and hold the power button and volume down at the same time until you see a white screen, which should show you your hboot version at the top.

Like the person above me said, you first need to find out what Hboot is it. I have just started rooting last week, about few days ago I successfully rooted my Sensation 4G with no problems and installed Custom Rom. If your Hboot is 1.18 or lower, it easier to use the thread given above which is what I used to root my Sensation 4G which it Hboot was 1.18. If your Hboot is 1.2X, it not gonna be as easy. What I did before rooting ever, was find information about rooting, and Custom Roms, recoveries, etc. to learn more about how to root and to do it properly so you don't **** up your phone. If you follow instructions carefully, you will have no problem, trust me, rooting is piece of cake. Here is a thread that will guide you of rooting http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/221212-faq-rooting-updated-7th-april-2012-a.html#14 It will tell you mostly everything about rooting.