[Q]get better battery backup with signal search delay? - Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i was reading an article about 2 years ago on how the phone interacts with the operator. so the phone connects to the tower every 3-5 seconds (not sure) and checks if you got an sms or if someone is calling you. and that is costing us a lot of battery life.
so i was wondering if there is an app that would enable us to set the time that the phone connects to the tower. so for example if i am at school or somewere i can not answer the phone it would be awsome if i could set the time that the phone checks for signal to 1minute or even more. the phone would check for signal 12-20 times less than before so i guess the battary backup should expand up to 30% (depends on the usage) with no disadvantages. it would also be wery usfull when you are sleeping .
i am aware that in this case if someone would be calling you, because of the delayed time of signal retreaving the oprator would assume that your phone is discharged so when the phone would connect to the tower (less than 1min) you would get a missed call. but this is no problem if i would not be able to answer anyway.
all in all has someone heard of an app that would enable this or if someone knows a way to do this i would be very happy :victory:.

ManBearrrPig said:
i was reading an article about 2 years ago on how the phone interacts with the operator. so the phone connects to the tower every 3-5 seconds (not sure) and checks if you got an sms or if someone is calling you. and that is costing us a lot of battery life.
so i was wondering if there is an app that would enable us to set the time that the phone connects to the tower. so for example if i am at school or somewere i can not answer the phone it would be awsome if i could set the time that the phone checks for signal to 1minute or even more. the phone would check for signal 12-20 times less than before so i guess the battary backup should expand up to 30% (depends on the usage) with no disadvantages. it would also be wery usfull when you are sleeping .
i am aware that in this case if someone would be calling you, because of the delayed time of signal retreaving the oprator would assume that your phone is discharged so when the phone would connect to the tower (less than 1min) you would get a missed call. but this is no problem if i would not be able to answer anyway.
all in all has someone heard of an app that would enable this or if someone knows a way to do this i would be very happy :victory:.
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If you receive good signals then GSM doesn't drain much battery, if I don't use GPS and WIFI, my phone's battery lasts for more than four days which means GSM is not the main battery eater.
If you can't receive calls at campus then you should try aeroplane mode.
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the point was that when phone is checking if you recieved a sms or a call it drains battery. the signal strenght is not the problem. so if i cant pick up the phone when i have school or am sleeping it would be convinient if the phone would search less and conserv battery. because in airplaine mode the phone never checks for sms or if someone is calling you so this APP would check for that, just less frequently. so you would get sms and missed calls.

ManBearrrPig said:
the point was that when phone is checking if you recieved a sms or a call it drains battery. the signal strenght is not the problem. so if i cant pick up the phone when i have school or am sleeping it would be convinient if the phone would search less and conserv battery. because in airplaine mode the phone never checks for sms or if someone is calling you so this APP would check for that, just less frequently. so you would get sms and missed calls.
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The whole theory is wrong, your mobile phone doesn't check for incoming calls, its the BTS (base transceiver station) or RBS (radio base station) which contacts your mobile phone when there is an incoming call. And if the BTS gets response from your mobile, it reserves a channel for that call.

so why is cell standby using all this battery???
Cell standby is just the time your cell radio isnt running, but is still communicating with the towers. (this is all i could find on the interaction between phone and the operator)
so if this is true the phone is comunicating with the towers and if it would comunicate less frequently we could preserve energy with no downside to it.
or not?

when you are in airplain mode is the cell standby energy consumption 0%?
if yes this would mean that the phone is interacting with tower.
if no, i am wrong on the whole idea :silly:
but i guess it is 0% otherwise people would not use airplain mode overnight so something must be happening and by lowering the frequency of it power should be conserved and you would still get sms and missed calls.

@ManBearrrPig
1. That article you read is 2 years old. Technology is changing and I think the transmitters and radio chip in phones/towers must have improved a lot.
2. That article you have read maybe false one. I dont think that cell tower the phone checks every few seconds. If that would be the case how i call and connect others instantly?
Even if your theory is right I think it will require fiddling with cell baseband, radio hardware etc (which roms and apps dont mess with it).
Lets consider even if you find a app to control the polling time between tower and phone, if it crashes or something wrong happens then you will forever have a phone with no reception....

ManBearrrPig said:
so why is cell standby using all this battery???
Cell standby is just the time your cell radio isnt running, but is still communicating with the towers. (this is all i could find on the interaction between phone and the operator)
so if this is true the phone is comunicating with the towers and if it would comunicate less frequently we could preserve energy with no downside to it.
or not?
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Your mobile is constantly communicating with BTS/RBS so that your network knows about your updated location and can route all incoming calls to your cell site, plus your mobile also scans available cell sites and connects to one having best signal level.
If you are on aeroplane mode, all this communication doesn't happen that's why saving more battery.

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Is always on UMTS/GPRS any safer (cancer) than always making a constant phone call?

I know the jury still seems out on whether cell phones cause cancer/etc... But since so many seem to be advocating precautions while using cell phones, the idea of leaving GPRS/UMTS/etc. on ALL the time (or even a lot of the time for polling the mail server) seems a little worrying.
What do you guys think, and what basis do you have for thinking it?
What's the radio output of using UMTS/GPRS compared to a phone call? I would assume given the data rate of UMTS that it must put out more RF energy than a phone call (presumably depending on the amount of data any second, but I'd assume even to keep the connection alive it's similar to a phone call).
Quincy
I am not an expert but:
1) GPRS / UMTS simply being connected sends virtually no data.
2) When transmitting data output should be same as phone call since it is still only as strong as it needs to be to reach the tower (I think).
3) It can be noted that keeping GPRS / UMTS on uses much less battery than a continuous phone call (even with push mail on) so the transmitter definitely using less power.
4) When call is in progress you usually hold the phone close to your head (except when using hands free), but with data connection it can be in your bag / briefcase away from your body.
Just my thoughts.

How can the battery be this bad?

I cannot go a full day without charging this thing twice. Even if i dont turn on wifi, gps, or BT.
Lastnight i had my phone charged to 100% by 12am when i went to sleep. By 7am when i woke up my phone was at 30% battery. The phone was unplugged and in standby the whole time. I didnt not get any incomming calls or sms. I only had the phone radio on, and no others except that i have it set to check for web email every 2 hours. I get great service in my house so i dont get it.
This is my 3rd battery and my second touch pro, and they were all this bad. How can this be? the f***ing thing uses 10% of its battery per hour in standby?
This is a problem
It could be a program running in the background that drains it. If you really want to know for sure, just master reset your phone and see if it drains.
YL Groper said:
I cannot go a full day without charging this thing twice. Even if i dont turn on wifi, gps, or BT.
Lastnight i had my phone charged to 100% by 12am when i went to sleep. By 7am when i woke up my phone was at 30% battery. The phone was unplugged and in standby the whole time. I didnt not get any incomming calls or sms. I only had the phone radio on, and no others except that i have it set to check for web email every 2 hours. I get great service in my house so i dont get it.
This is my 3rd battery and my second touch pro, and they were all this bad. How can this be? the f***ing thing uses 10% of its battery per hour in standby?
This is a problem
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hello, have you recently flashed your phone? have you tried a different radios, radios make a huge difference. is your data connection staying on all the time?
lupe
let the phone drain down completely and turn off before you plug it in. My Fuze was draining very fast when I got it. So I let it run down until it powered off.
I went 3 more days with my phone running on 4% battery. I think it was 96 hours or something. I took it off the charger at 8pm Wednesday and it died Friday around 9pm.
Since it has been pretty good. I noticed that when i am at work, with no signal... it'll eat my battery. My Samsung Blackjack and Epix didn't do this.
I'm using the stock radio btw
my stock battery was actually pretty good. it would easily go 24 hours with some texting, a call and internet browsing. i usually always have 3g off until i really need it. now i have the seidio 1500 mah battery and its even better.
try
new rom
new radio
extended battery
limiting 3g usage
Thanks for all the replys...
Im alittle confused by what you are saying about "new radios". How can you try new radios? Not a physical radio, right? is it a different driver for your wifi or something? kind of lost.
Also, when I first got the phone i stretched and set the memory in the battery. I charged completely without turning it on at first>then used the phone until it died completely (it wouldnt even turn on anymore)>then complete charge>complete death>complete charge>complete death.....So i did that three times. I think the battery is good.
How exactly do i turn off 3g? would that be the "data connection" in comm manager? I installed this comm edit that shows 10 icons in comm manager; there is a 3g switch but it always shows as off and when i click it it does nothing. Now the data connection seems to shut on an off at different times. Im assuming that is due to the 2 hour send and recieve or any mms that i get. How do i turn 3g on only when i want it? I do have an "EV" (Evdo) icon in my system bar even when the data is off.
What data goes through 3g? mms? browser (of course), send and recieve, Weather?
If I have my weather set to auto update, does it only do it when i go to my wheater tab? it seems that way. What about the web mail send and recieve, once its done does it shut the data back off?
Thanks for all the help, i hope im providing enough info.
I’m sorry for coming off as such a noob, it’s embarrassing; Mostly because im a friggen MCP who works in desktop support and has configured countless WM devices for exchange access.
I think my issue is that this is my first personal windows mobile device.
Thanks for humoring my noobisms.
YL Groper said:
Im alittle confused by what you are saying about "new radios". How can you try new radios? Not a physical radio, right? is it a different driver for your wifi or something? kind of lost.
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A ROM package you flash onto your phone sometimes doesnt always only consist of an OS update (eg.: ROM) but sometimes comes with a "bios" update too, an update for the Radio-ROM (eg.: radio) which handles your phones connectivity deep down inside it.
How exactly do i turn off 3g? would that be the "data connection" in comm manager?
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3G means UMTS which is the fastest standard cellular network based data connection widely available today. Its the third generation of cellular data connectivity evolutions, hence 3G. The "data connection" button in your comm manager establishes or disconnects a data connection the device has, independent of what technology it uses, eg. 2G or 3G.
I installed this comm edit that shows 10 icons in comm manager; there is a 3g switch but it always shows as off and when i click it it does nothing.
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You can edit the standard 6 button manager to show a 3G icon, several of the so called tweaking tools can do that.
Why it doesnt work on your specificly edited manager, I dont and cant know.
Now the data connection seems to shut on an off at different times. Im assuming that is due to the 2 hour send and recieve or any mms that i get. How do i turn 3g on only when i want it? I do have an "EV" (Evdo) icon in my system bar even when the data is off.
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A "big" EV icon next to the signal bar means thats the technology available in your area right now and which your phone is using. So an EV plus two bars means mediocre EVDO connectivity possible. If you have a small EV above the signal bar, this means a data connection is open and active using EVDO. There is also G for GPRS, E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS, H for HSDPA and obviously EV for EVDO.
What data goes through 3g? mms? browser (of course), send and recieve, Weather?
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Think of it that way: what data goes through my network cable at work? Well, all data trying to reach the intranet, extranet or internet. So similarily all data at that moment goes over your currently open connection whatever program is its origin.
once its done does it shut the data back off?
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After a horrendeously amount of time Windows Mobile caps the connection, I think. But you can for example use the Schaps Advanced Config Tools to set a much lower timer, mine for example is set to 3 minutes so an idle connection gets stopped after 3 minutes.
Back on topic:
I got my Raphael two days ago, I switched from an XPERIA X1 because the build quality got annoying. I'm quite shocked, the Touch Pro performs much worse than the X1 does or did. I'm aware of the battery size discrepancy, this is more some kind of a general statement as in "fuch the TP battery really DOES suck that much"...
I've noticed that turning the bluetooth off gives me a huge boost in battery life.
try new things
my battery was really bad ,until yesterday when i installed an app i shouldnt have made my touch pro go nuts so i had no more options but to do a hard reset,ive noticed a huge differance,i also do my email manually now and i unchecked allow incomming beams ive read that doing makes a diff i charged my phone last night at 10pm took it of charge it was 100% at time i hsvent charge it since its 9am now n ive been on web for 3 hrs now n still have 40% lol cant belive it this is on stock rom
Where can you buy 1500 mAh.. I couldn't find one on ebay either?
How bad does the 2500 +mAh looks like? Does anyone have a photo to show the working HTC Touch pro?
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=171884 battery bank, external battery
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=172018 1800MAh battery
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=169457 1340MAh battery (the one which comes with the device)

[Q] HTC Desire S radio

HI guys
I get my desire S before week ago but I think I have problem in radio as when I leave my phone in stand by for 6 hours it loss 50% from charging with radio switch-on and if I switch-off the radio it loss 2% from charging so I think there is some problem in the Radio pls can anyone help me
really I am so confused with this problem
The only thing that I can think of would be if you were in an area where there is weak 3g signal and the phone if constantly getting on and then Falling off the 3g network.
There are a couple of other threads in this forum all about excessive battery drain, one about excessive drain with screen off, although not specifically about radio, so possibly post this into one of them.
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I just use the 2G network
I ask if I update the radio may be the problem will solved ? and how can do that ?
pls to advise me
To upgrade the radio currently with S-ON you can find the HTC/official ROM with the latest revision radio. This would be a little trial and error, install it with the goldcard method and see if it helps. Another idea, if you are just using 2g, have you set the mobile network to GSM only instead of GSM/WCDMA? It may be worth a shot.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Even on 2G only, I think the drain can be severe in an area with very poor signal, because the phone uses much more energy than normal trying to contact a mast.
If you look at Settings > About phone > Battery > Battery use, you would normally expect the display to be the greatest drain on the battery; but in an area with very bad (almost non-existent) signal, you might expect to see Cell standby at over 50%.
In the building where I work, almost no radio signal gets through, so most of us here find our phones reporting "Emergency calls only" and prompting to choose a network.
But even there, I'm only losing about 25% in six hours. The phone gets quite warm though: about 38 degrees C - in airplane mode, it's down to 33 degrees.
I've stopped most things from syncing too much though. Do you perhaps have some apps synchronizing very often (and which therefore do very little when the radio is off) ?
njd said:
Even on 2G only, I think the drain can be severe in an area with very poor signal, because the phone uses much more energy than normal trying to contact a mast.
If you look at Settings > About phone > Battery > Battery use, you would normally expect the display to be the greatest drain on the battery; but in an area with very bad (almost non-existent) signal, you might expect to see Cell standby at over 50%.
In the building where I work, almost no radio signal gets through, so most of us here find our phones reporting "Emergency calls only" and prompting to choose a network.
But even there, I'm only losing about 25% in six hours. The phone gets quite warm though: about 38 degrees C - in airplane mode, it's down to 33 degrees.
I've stopped most things from syncing too much though. Do you perhaps have some apps synchronizing very often (and which therefore do very little when the radio is off) ?
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your phone is way too warm unless the room temp is close to that as well.
I already switch-off all synchronizing and did factory reset and try to put on GSM only but the problem didn't solve yet
I thing may be the radio version not compatible with my network or something like this so I ask if can find another version of radio or make upgrade with my phone in S-ON
Hi guys
The problem had been solved as when I replaced the SIM the problem disappeared so I think the problem was in my SIM
thanks for every one who support and help me
I want to say that this phone is great and one of batter HTC phone that released so I hope for more support from XDA
I am reading this thread and I am a bit confused. How are you guys going on GSM only?
My Desire S only allows GSM/WCDMA or WCDMA..
I would love to go GSM only because my damn house is bewteen 2 3g towers
Please advise...
jmansyd said:
I am reading this thread and I am a bit confused. How are you guys going on GSM only?
My Desire S only allows GSM/WCDMA or WCDMA..
I would love to go GSM only because my damn house is bewteen 2 3g towers
Please advise...
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Weird... mine has 3 options: Only WCDMA , Only GSM , GSM/WCDMA
.sh4d0w. said:
Weird... mine has 3 options: Only WCDMA , Only GSM , GSM/WCDMA
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OH WHAT!!!
Makes me want to cry..
Anyone suggest any fix?
call *#*#4636#*#* and then "telefon info", there u should be able to change it
I cannot make a call with the Desire S in the area where my ancient LG PHONE has no problems with the signal.
So, what is the Desire S? Just a toy?
I am disapointed.
Blezz said:
call *#*#4636#*#* and then "telefon info", there u should be able to change it
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Thanks so much!!!

Am I Dead? (Losing Cell Svc)

For the past few weeks I've been losing cell service - a lot! With the phone at home where I normally get 3-4 bars, signal will suddenly cut out & I'll get the warning notification. BUT sometimes I seem to lose the phone part of the signal & the phone seems to have data - though even then it will often fail even when it says there's a data connection. (I hope this makes sense to someone.) Sometimes it reconnects on its own, but usually I have to search for network & re-register. And about 10% of the time it fails to register on the first or second tries. Variations on all this happen multiple times per day & I probably have any cell service for a total of 5-10 hrs on any given day. (But once in a while I do get a good day with almost no outage)
At worst, I could live with completely unreliable voice service for a while as I'm aiming to buy the upcoming new Nexus. The bigger problem is that I do need semi-reliable data - and when cell cuts out Cell Standby battery usage skyrockets.
*I'm on Wind Mobile in Canada so cell service is never perfect but this is WAY beyond normal failings.
*Wind has tested the network & towers at my apt & say all is 100%
*I've replaced the SIM card.
*I'm stock 6.01, not even rooted.
Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Poor signal strength

Just received my Xperia 5 II. I'm enjoying it so far but unfortunately one of the most basic requirements is letting it down, 4G signal strength. I'm on Vodafone and using the SIM in my Mate20 Pro I can gain full bars. However using the same SIM in this phone I barely get one bar with the status showing around 105 - 115 dBm. Out of curiousity I switched to GSM using the test menu and it dropped to 85 dBm. Anyone experiencing similar?
Thanks.
Bugsy46 said:
Just received my Xperia 5 II. I'm enjoying it so far but unfortunately one of the most basic requirements is letting it down, 4G signal strength. I'm on Vodafone and using the SIM in my Mate20 Pro I can gain full bars. However using the same SIM in this phone I barely get one bar with the status showing around 105 - 115 dBm. Out of curiousity I switched to GSM using the test menu and it dropped to 85 dBm. Anyone experiencing similar?
Thanks.
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Hi!! I have the terminal for about 1 week. I have the same problem. I have Vodafone Spain. I think it is a software problem because I have compared with a Realme x2Pro and the indicator is very good, the values ​​are similar in Xperia. So I think it is an OS problem. Without any coverage bars, the phone makes calls without problems. They are not cut or similar.
That's good to hear thanks! Hopefully Sony can be made aware of this and provide a software update! As I type this it's sat between 0 and 1 bar
Do you have Vodafone ROM? Flashing an original Sony ROM may fix the problem. Can be?
It's pretty much out of the box and updated to the latest software. Interestingly my H+ speed is twice as fast as my 4G speed!
I've just logged in to create a thread about this problem, and I see that I'm not the only one experiencing it. It's really frustrating, my previous device (essential) in the same spot with the same sim card, can achieve 3(!) times faster download speed
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Same problem here with wifi and 3g (h).
Waiting fix for this issue..
I want to think that it is a software problem. Seeing that there are many people with the same problem, I do not think that all the devices are bad.
Unless the issue is due to hardware by design. They might've opted for a cheaper antenna system that doesn't get enough signal. In that case we're screwed.
I read quite a few posts regarding the X1ii having the same issue, that doesn't give me much hope! Thankfully I'm in the 14 day return period so I will keep an eye on this thread and also the signal when I'm in the car etc.
I am experiencing the exact same issues on 4G LTE here in canada. And I don't understand what's going on because apart from my home going outside and using data exclusively I'm getting full speeds 4G plus no problem. However certain times of the day primarily during the evening I do have hiccups where I have dropped connection and it takes a while for the phone to just do its thing and then get to have the internet back. With regard to the low signal yeah I'm getting full service my phone calls are working properly text messages are sending but I'm only getting one to two or even zero bars on 4G LTE.
This is all on my brand new Sony Xperia 5 mark ii. I'm hoping the update to Android 11 or a couple of security patches down the line or lifespan of this device will fix this issue. But I'm going to try not to concern myself with it as of yet because again the one place I thought I wouldn't be able to get anything which is my use of the phone outside in public I was able to get full if not better service than anything I did at home. And at home it's not that bad either it's just one point in time the signal will cut off and drop.
thepersona said:
I am experiencing the exact same issues on 4G LTE here in canada. And I don't understand what's going on because apart from my home going outside and using data exclusively I'm getting full speeds 4G plus no problem. However certain times of the day primarily during the evening I do have hiccups where I have dropped connection and it takes a while for the phone to just do its thing and then get to have the internet back. With regard to the low signal yeah I'm getting full service my phone calls are working properly text messages are sending but I'm only getting one to two or even zero bars on 4G LTE.
This is all on my brand new Sony Xperia 5 mark ii. I'm hoping the update to Android 11 or a couple of security patches down the line or lifespan of this device will fix this issue. But I'm going to try not to concern myself with it as of yet because again the one place I thought I wouldn't be able to get anything which is my use of the phone outside in public I was able to get full if not better service than anything I did at home. And at home it's not that bad either it's just one point in time the signal will cut off and drop.
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You have said it. He receives calls correctly and works perfectly. So I think it is a software bug. It does not mark the coverage well. The values ​​are similar on other devices. At least in my case.
The speeds I tested personally have huge differences, so at least for me, there is a significant difference
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Befree197 said:
You have said it. He receives calls correctly and works perfectly. So I think it is a software bug. It does not mark the coverage well. The values ​​are similar on other devices. At least in my case.
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I am really hoping that it's a software bug and nothing more. Hopefully it will get addressed. it was interesting going into my local Telus having neither of the representatives in store know what VOLTE was. I was baffled I figured people that work there would have an idea of the services involved or bundled with what they're offering LOL but I think I'm better off dealing with tech support hahaha
I was browsing the XP 5 M2 forums here with the intend to import this phone to India as it seemed an excellent buy. Now after seeing the poor signal issue, I have my concerns. However, you can try doing the following and report back
1. Check "mobile network standby" usage under the battery settings. If the signal actually is too low, this value should be in high percentages -maybe above 10% of the overall battery consumption.
2. Download and install GSAM/BBS battery monitor app and check the standby drain per hour on 4G/LTE, keeping the phone idle overnight or not use it for an hour during day time. Ideally it should be less than 1-1.5%/hr during the day on idle and overnight should be less than 1.0%/hr on LTE. If this is the case, its only the signal bars and a software issue. Avoid measuring on WIFI as the drain is usually much less on wifi anyways.
3. Download and install 'Network Cell Info" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wilysis.cellinfolite) and check the actual strength with different phones at the same spot and same time. Cellphones do switch towers frequently even at the same spot. This app will give detailed info on the signal strength and towers (if your telco provides). It will also show where the towers are located approximately and you can compare phones on how they stack up in a similar setting.
4. Force 4g/LTE mode only under network preferences (if available). Check the dBm and ASU levels in this mode and see if it's any different from 5G/4G mode.
If the standby drain is low and the phone lasts a day or more on normal usage, then no need of worry, its the signal bars that are showing wrong. I'd like to hear back from you all as my purchase decision will be based on your feedback on standby drain.
Ah, finally the same issues as I am experiencing. I also have only one or sometimes zero bars. The people I call also tell me connection is bad. Sounds drop, we can't talk simultaneously and so on. Sometimes I can't even internet with wifi. I also hear people on the phone that sounds drop.
I don't feel comfortable about all the suggestions to enable or disable stuff in the default settings, set preferred network to only 4g or disables 5g;
1- I tried this but doesn't make a difference
2- This should work out of the box. I have several phones (samsung, Iphone, Oneplus) and none of these have these problems.
Sometimes I do have full bars, and the internet is very good. I noticed this yesterday. And once on the other side told me the quality was allright, but almost all the time the strength is zero to one bar and quality is really bad.
I also tried a new simcard, no difference. Vodafone also sent it to repaird and I got a complete boardswap, but no difference.
linom said:
I was browsing the XP 5 M2 forums here with the intend to import this phone to India as it seemed an excellent buy. Now after seeing the poor signal issue, I have my concerns. However, you can try doing the following and report back
1. Check "mobile network standby" usage under the battery settings. If the signal actually is too low, this value should be in high percentages -maybe above 10% of the overall battery consumption.
2. Download and install GSAM/BBS battery monitor app and check the standby drain per hour on 4G/LTE, keeping the phone idle overnight or not use it for an hour during day time. Ideally it should be less than 1-1.5%/hr during the day on idle and overnight should be less than 1.0%/hr on LTE. If this is the case, its only the signal bars and a software issue. Avoid measuring on WIFI as the drain is usually much less on wifi anyways.
3. Download and install 'Network Cell Info" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wilysis.cellinfolite) and check the actual strength with different phones at the same spot and same time. Cellphones do switch towers frequently even at the same spot. This app will give detailed info on the signal strength and towers (if your telco provides). It will also show where the towers are located approximately and you can compare phones on how they stack up in a similar setting.
4. Force 4g/LTE mode only under network preferences (if available). Check the dBm and ASU levels in this mode and see if it's any different from 5G/4G mode.
If the standby drain is low and the phone lasts a day or more on normal usage, then no need of worry, its the signal bars that are showing wrong. I'd like to hear back from you all as my purchase decision will be based on your feedback on standby drain.
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https://i.ibb.co/2SwYRRg/mobile-network-standby.png
https://i.ibb.co/5jmytx3/standby-drain.png
https://i.ibb.co/WpztLJN/signal-strength.png
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https://i.ibb.co/RSQwn3Z/network-cell-info-pocophone.jpg
It's really disappointing for a phone that costs around 900 euros to suck at the most important task that it has to do. Yesterday I was sitting with a friend of mine that has an OnePlus 6T. He had full bars and I was between 1 and 2 bars. I haven't seen full bars ANYWHERE. I don't know what is wrong, I hope it's a software bug or something, but I'm not optimistic about that
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to compare signal quality you have to download netmonster, bars are not good to make a comparison, however compared to my old mate 20 pro the signal quality is good despite sometimes i have 1 bar if you open netmonster you can see good value, no complain at all , btw i live in Rome.
But I experience also bad quality. WiFi and cellular. My Samsung, iPhone and OnePlus didn't have problems with my WiFi also it's was weak upstairs, but my Sony has sometimes no WiFi at all.
And when calling, not over WiFi, sounds is bad, is dropping a lot.
Looks like Sony can't handle a weak signal as good as other phones?

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