I have a sprint touch pro, it was fine for the first day or so including active sync always connected.
Then I noticed it would get really warm and the battery was draining very fast, long story short but on a hard reset with only CMP battery monitor installed (which was not installed when the problem first presented itself) the unit uses between 0-100 mah normally but if I have activesync on always connected or even no active sync profile but manually enable the data connection it goes to 200-400 (average around 300 mah) causing it to heat up, super fast battery drain, etc.
One thing I noticed is that it is flipping between EVDO and 1x a lot too I am not sure if this is the cause?
I have several other phones (mougl, 6700 etc) all which would stay on EVDO without a problem here. Is it a defective unit?
Also to note my battery can train from about 100% to dead in a few hours when the data connection is active, vs day+ without.
I also am having a similar problem as the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2851168
where basically while in a strong evdo area it will rarely connect over evdo and if it does it generally will break the connection within a few minutes and default back to 1x. I think this may be the cause but it still doesn't explain why this is happening.
Mine seems to be having the same sort of issues, my battery, on average is only lasting me about 6-8 hours, I keep bluetooth and wifi turned off. I just got the phone less than a week ago, so it is seeing abnormally heavy use, but I'm really trying to make it last me a day and this isn't looking good so far.
Keeping background programs closed (except glight and gyrator)
Signal for this area is strong, 3g everywhere. I used to be on Helio (using Sprint's network), and my 3g signal never dropped. This phone, when sending a text message, the box switches to 1x, the text sends, then it goes back to Ev. It's the same for making calls. I'm not "dropping" 3g I guess, it's just switching off to make a cell transmission. Browsing sites or using data keeps it connected to 3g.
ROM version: 1.03.651.3
Radio version: 1.03.15F
Now, you think us Sprint Touch Pro users will possibly see a new ROM and Radio soon? I want to try reflashing the ROM, but don't know where to get another stock Sprint one, and I'm positive a GSM radio won't work.
If only the touch pro had 1/3 the following the Diamond seems to :/
Yea I don't think that its due to any programs, at this point I run a hard reset with nothing loaded but the battery monitor and no wifi/bt. As for sprint roms nuechem will be releasing a new rom tonight (see is blog at nuerom.com ) you can flash over.
I think the problem is related to the network however as in 3 different locations now as soon as I go to use a very good strength evdo signal it will drop to 1x for an unknown reason.
It is almost 3-4 weeks since i got my touch pro. My friend warned me about TP as it takes a while to get used to. I am very used to this phone right now. So I am qualified to complain!:
1. Battery - not a new topic - but it truly stinks. I read 1000s of threads and disabled all that will suck battery. I disabled activesync and instead installed BBConnect for my corporate emails. In spite of that, my battery life is not impressive - I do use my phone fairly frequently - no browsing, no songs, no videos nothing....only phone calls. I am using the AT&T radio and in the zone with good signal strength.... I dont know what else to look for. This i can combat with better battery 1800mAH..
2. Ringer and speaker volume - TRULY STINKS! After using blackberry curve 8320 for a long time, TP audio is hardly audible - i tried audioparam3, SRS WOW HD and nothing helps. my ringer volume is as high as it could get to....it is totally not acceptable...
3. Missed calls - 9 out of 10 calls are missed calls for me. I tried S2U2 - didnt work well. tried answerskeydisabler -helped a bit but not much.... i tried one sensorlock - it was too difficult to unlock.....every time i reach out my phone and i miss the call - it is very annoying..... can someone help/share your experiences or how are you guys managing this problem.....
(2) & (3) are my major concerns - any suggestions would tremendously help.
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3. Missed calls - 9 out of 10 calls are missed calls for me. I tried S2U2 - didnt work well. tried answerskeydisabler -helped a bit but not much.... i tried one sensorlock - it was too difficult to unlock.....every time i reach out my phone and i miss the call - it is very annoying..... can someone help/share your experiences or how are you guys managing this problem.....
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Try PocketShield ( http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/ ) and enable finger slide unlocking and set the options to use it's phone plug in and dialer skin. That has really helped me to not miss calls.
sorry to hear you are having these issues. Here are my impressions:
a) how much battery life are you getting? If you are using your phone for only answering calls most of the times, you should not have a dismal battery life. I have used my TP for a few days like that (as in not much email\web - just phone calls) and it lasted about 2 -2 1/2 days. One culprit could be that you are constantly weaving in and out of 3G and Edge networks or in and out of range - making the TP constantly search for networks - that can suck juice. Dunno the solution to this - you could disable 3G bands and stick to Edge and see if that improves your battery life - since you are not using much data on it, it should not affect you much. Another reason I can have bad battery life is - well I have a bad habit of taking out and turning it on, using TF3d and then turning it off - no reasons why - its like an addiction to me its so pwetty!
b) Ringer volume - its not loud, but I don't mind - i always use a vibrate and ring option, so it always alerts me fine.
c) Missed call - i had that happen to me but it does not happen to me anymore - here's how I handle it - i have noticed that using the hardware answer key (bottom left) is unreliable. I think the capacitative button needs different pressure than what I am using. I do not use S2U2 or anything else. When the phone rings, I just touch the bright green button on the touchscreen and that works for me flawlessly.
Other info - I am using stock ATT ROM without the bloatware and with all the performance TF3D and Diamond\Rafael tweaks I could find on the TF3d configurator and the Diamond Configurator.
My overall impression is that what makes WM phones in general and TP in particular so great is that its truly a multi-use device - i can get corporate email, my music player, FM radio, my logmein\gotomypc\remote desktop client, my web browser and answer phone calls. Thats the beauty of it for me, and the OS is immensely customizable.
Things like call quality on this will probably never match the Nokia I used to use 5 years ago. But it is more than adequate for me.
Hope this helps
try this will give you more time to answer
3) start > settings > phone > services > call forwarding > forward after 30 seconds
If I am not mistaken, TP is NOT a 3G phone. I talked to AT&T customer support and they said that this is not a 3G phone from their eyes. Mine is always on Edge. Strangely I see "G" sign for 1 or 2 sec and then it goes back to Edge - this happens very very rarely. So that possibly not the reason for sucking the juice - i do have the habit of playing with the phone a lot. So today, I decided not to touch except for talking - will see how it goes..... it is almost 1 PM CST and I am down to 84% - of course today i didnt have normal call volume. On a normal day around 5 PM I am down to 19% and I get red sign......
one question on wi-fi: I turn this on at home and does this suck battery life?
answering the phone, because of the touch screen, volume keys on the side, my fingers accidentally touch one of these and goes to VM before even i take it out of the case. Yes, I did change the setting to 30 secs as suggested. i am definitely going to give a shot with Pocketshield.
thanks......
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If I am not mistaken, TP is NOT a 3G phone. I talked to AT&T customer support and they said that this is not a 3G phone from their eyes. Mine is always on Edge. Strangely I see "G" sign for 1 or 2 sec and then it goes back to Edge - this happens very very rarely. So that possibly not the reason for sucking the juice - i do have the habit of playing with the phone a lot. So today, I decided not to touch except for talking - will see how it goes..... it is almost 1 PM CST and I am down to 84% - of course today i didnt have normal call volume. On a normal day around 5 PM I am down to 19% and I get red sign......
one question on wi-fi: I turn this on at home and does this suck battery life?
answering the phone, because of the touch screen, volume keys on the side, my fingers accidentally touch one of these and goes to VM before even i take it out of the case. Yes, I did change the setting to 30 secs as suggested. i am definitely going to give a shot with Pocketshield.
thanks......
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1) It is most definitely a 3G phone. My "H" for HSDPA is on nearly constantly. I get 3G data rates on it.
2) WiFi - Absolutely a battery drain. BIG TIME! This is true of any device, laptop, MP3 player, etc.
WiFi, to my experience is not as big a drain on HTC phones, then it is on Nokia.
For the answer key problem, there is a ROM in the Diamond section that will soon be incorporating the HD slider, so keep your eyes peeled.
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1) It is most definitely a 3G phone. My "H" for HSDPA is on nearly constantly. I get 3G data rates on it.
2) WiFi - Absolutely a battery drain. BIG TIME! This is true of any device, laptop, MP3 player, etc.
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I live in chicago and AT&T is my service provider. If I recall right, AT&T told me that there is no plan change needed etc as my corporate plan itself is sufficient. I wonder why I am not on 3G. Any clues?
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I live in chicago and AT&T is my service provider. If I recall right, AT&T told me that there is no plan change needed etc as my corporate plan itself is sufficient. I wonder why I am not on 3G. Any clues?
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Check the communications screen on the settings tab. Make sure you don't have it set to GSM only mode.
Settings->Phone->Band says "Auto" for both network type and GSM/UMTS band. Is this where you're pointing to?
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Settings->Phone->Band says "Auto" for both network type and GSM/UMTS band. Is this where you're pointing to?
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No, the settings tab in TF3D.
kmahesh said:
I live in chicago and AT&T is my service provider. If I recall right, AT&T told me that there is no plan change needed etc as my corporate plan itself is sufficient. I wonder why I am not on 3G. Any clues?
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Did you buy a Fuze from AT&T or did you purchase an unlocked UK Touch Pro from a 3rd party retailer?
If you have a Fuze, you should be receiving 3G signals (there is a reg edit to enable HSPA for faster connections).
If you have an imported Touch Pro, you cannot receive AT&T's 850/1900mhz 3G signals. You will only be able to receive EDGE signals in the US.
Also, for reference (in order of speed, slowest to fastest): G=GPRS, E=EDGE, 3G=3G, H=HSPA.
As far as battery life goes, on my UK Touch Pro (only using EDGE, WiFi only when necessary), I'm getting ~3days on a single charge. No missed calls, no problems hearing the ringer, etc.
Mine is imported from UK. Obviously based on what you said, this can't have 3G? However, if you go to Settings->Phone->Band, you have option of choosing other bands as well - haven't tried it. Also there is a separate tab which is enabled for HSPA, couldnt locate now where i saw that..... it appears that only Fuze is a 3G phone.....
My Fuze was a super battery hog until I installed NATF's v2.3 Rom. I won't say it's like night and day, but it's a big difference. After I installed the new rom I was using HSDPA. It was 3G. Since I only was getting 3G about half the time, it was constantly looking for 3G. I think now it uses T Mobiles tower too wich helps with the data signal. I could be wrong but that's what I've noticed. BlueTooth is a huge battery hog. Also I noticed that once I had completely drained my battery and completely charged it about 7 or 8 times the battery life got a lot better. I guess it just got worn in essentially I think mostly it was the tweaks and getting rid of all the bloat that NATF's Rom did, but I still have to charge my phone half way throught the day. It's just worth it to me when you look at all the stuff This phone can do.
Concerning the ringer volume: it heavily depends on the ringtone you use. E.g. I tried a MIDI one, it was much too low, the MP3 ringtones were better but in the end I settled on Ring-OldPhone2 which I consider pretty loud on the highest volume setting.
Concerning the missed calls issue: Yes, I definetely agree on this. Having played around with Answerkeys Disabler, I came across a setting that will suffice as a halfway solution. "Lock only from standby" was the registry setting that caused me the last days a lot of those damn missed calls....
CU,
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kmahesh said:
3. Missed calls - 9 out of 10 calls are missed calls for me. I tried S2U2 - didnt work well. tried answerskeydisabler -helped a bit but not much.... i tried one sensorlock - it was too difficult to unlock.....every time i reach out my phone and i miss the call - it is very annoying..... can someone help/share your experiences or how are you guys managing this problem.....
thanks
kmahesh
Carrier: AT&T
ROMeOS2 1.51 WWE
Radio - 1.02.25.32
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Dude, I wish I was getting missed calls.
Everytime my phone rings, it'll vibrate for a few seconds and then stop. Not because I missed the call, but because I somehow managed to accept the call while it was in my pouch by pressing the accept button.
It's really starting to annoy me and was wondering if anyone knew if I could disable to ability to answer via touch screen, or another way around it.
9-10 calls are answered without me even knowing it. Once my boss called me and he said that he thought I was just being rude and put him on hold 'cause he could hear me talking, but just not to him
Can anyone help?
PS. Sorry for the therad jacking!
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Mine is imported from UK. Obviously based on what you said, this can't have 3G? However, if you go to Settings->Phone->Band, you have option of choosing other bands as well - haven't tried it. Also there is a separate tab which is enabled for HSPA, couldnt locate now where i saw that..... it appears that only Fuze is a 3G phone.....
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UK Touch Pro is a 3G phone, but it only works with 900/2100mhz 3G (most carriers in Europe use 2100mhz). The Band selection option has options for 850/1900, but that's only because it's a "generic" ROM; changing the software options does not (and cannot) modify the hardware radio.
So essentially only the Fuze on AT&T (or CDMA Touch Pro on Sprint/Verizon) will get 3G signals in the US.
Of course, if you take a vacation to Europe, you will be able to receive 3G signals.....
I've gone through several locking programs from S2U2 which I found buggy, to the one you rotate around (I've forgotten its name) and many others. I currently use TouchLockPro 1.8, it's nearly perfect, you can tap the capacitive area a few times and it unlocks, or if it's bright enough it will unlock itself after a few seconds. The only niggle I have is that it sometimes (infrequently) doesn't register taps when the phone is ringing, something to do with the phone app using too much cpu I guess, but it will instantly unlock if you remove the stylus. So far it's cost me no missed calls unlike the others.
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I've gone through several locking programs from S2U2 which I found buggy, to the one you rotate around (I've forgotten its name) and many others. I currently use TouchLockPro 1.8, it's nearly perfect, you can tap the capacitive area a few times and it unlocks, or if it's bright enough it will unlock itself after a few seconds. The only niggle I have is that it sometimes (infrequently) doesn't register taps when the phone is ringing, something to do with the phone app using too much cpu I guess, but it will instantly unlock if you remove the stylus. So far it's cost me no missed calls unlike the others.
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Have you tried PocketShield? I'm curious how TouchLockPro compares with it.
I used to think the ringer/call volume was a bit low...
But now I am using PROven 1.08 and an mp3 ringtone and it is LOUD! Louder than my old Blackjack, which was easily the loudest phone I had ever heard.
Anyone found their Chacha disables it's WiFi on it's own? Mine has done it twice to my knowledge. The first time I assumed it was down to the power saving kicking in, but today, the battery had 60+% remaining and it cut off after about 10 hours.
I've had numerous Android handsets, from 1.5 thru to 2.2 and none of them disabled WiFi. The router is in the room directly below where the phone is, so signal strength is not an issue. The BB9700 that was also in the room at the same time still has it's connection.
On a different note, disabling FB chat and having a good signal (via Femtocell) seems to have improved battery performance. Still have 50% battery after 12 hours and about 30mins of calls and FB/twitter, with WiFi on for 10 hours and tracesaver app, which uses GPS and uploads data on phone usage.
Will do a firmware upgrade, as I'm on 1.15 right now, but there are more bugs in this phone than I've seen on any other Android handset. Like the form factor, but the honeymoon period is coming to an end. Moto FIRE could be a suitable replacement, but I've not had a good history with Moto.
When you say disabling wifi, do you mean wifi turns off? Or you get disconnected from your router?
I have had issues where I will get disconnected from a router before.
Software version 1.15 is waay old, try updating to 1.57 here
swtesting.ro/alex/downloads/ruu_chacha_htc_asia_wwe_1.57.707.2_radio_47.23.35.3033h_7.51.35.19_release_228383_signed.zip
You may need a goldcard (modified sdcard) to run this update, there's an easy tutorial how to make a goldcard here: theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
Hope that helps
Mine turns itself on by itself I am pretty sure its an app doing it but not found which yet
sent usin' tapatalk innit.
Is this normal on the HTC one s?
My phone is switching from H to 3g to G. I don't know if its a phone display thing or if my phone is really toggling between the three. Anyways my battery has been terrible and I'm wondering if this is the cause...
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Is this normal on the HTC one s?
My phone is switching from H to 3g to G. I don't know if its a phone display thing or if my phone is really toggling between the three. Anyways my battery has been terrible and I'm wondering if this is the cause...
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I think yesterday I have seen the thread similar to yours. I do have the same thing, but only when my phone gets data to and from the phone. Normally it stays at 3G, but when checks for email or I surf the web, then it changes to H. Restart you phone and give it a couple of days, maybe your cell phone company has some data issues that it jumps. To make battery last 20 hours longer, I switch my phone to GSM only with Edge mobile data signal, but when I need faster internet, I just enable it again in the settings, under mobile data.
It will go to faster modes as needed when it uses data, and go to other modes like 3G and G when more idle to save battery. That said it should not switch between modes in a way that affects data speeds or stops transfers
i was reading an article about 2 years ago on how the phone interacts with the operator. so the phone connects to the tower every 3-5 seconds (not sure) and checks if you got an sms or if someone is calling you. and that is costing us a lot of battery life.
so i was wondering if there is an app that would enable us to set the time that the phone connects to the tower. so for example if i am at school or somewere i can not answer the phone it would be awsome if i could set the time that the phone checks for signal to 1minute or even more. the phone would check for signal 12-20 times less than before so i guess the battary backup should expand up to 30% (depends on the usage) with no disadvantages. it would also be wery usfull when you are sleeping .
i am aware that in this case if someone would be calling you, because of the delayed time of signal retreaving the oprator would assume that your phone is discharged so when the phone would connect to the tower (less than 1min) you would get a missed call. but this is no problem if i would not be able to answer anyway.
all in all has someone heard of an app that would enable this or if someone knows a way to do this i would be very happy :victory:.
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i was reading an article about 2 years ago on how the phone interacts with the operator. so the phone connects to the tower every 3-5 seconds (not sure) and checks if you got an sms or if someone is calling you. and that is costing us a lot of battery life.
so i was wondering if there is an app that would enable us to set the time that the phone connects to the tower. so for example if i am at school or somewere i can not answer the phone it would be awsome if i could set the time that the phone checks for signal to 1minute or even more. the phone would check for signal 12-20 times less than before so i guess the battary backup should expand up to 30% (depends on the usage) with no disadvantages. it would also be wery usfull when you are sleeping .
i am aware that in this case if someone would be calling you, because of the delayed time of signal retreaving the oprator would assume that your phone is discharged so when the phone would connect to the tower (less than 1min) you would get a missed call. but this is no problem if i would not be able to answer anyway.
all in all has someone heard of an app that would enable this or if someone knows a way to do this i would be very happy :victory:.
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If you receive good signals then GSM doesn't drain much battery, if I don't use GPS and WIFI, my phone's battery lasts for more than four days which means GSM is not the main battery eater.
If you can't receive calls at campus then you should try aeroplane mode.
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the point was that when phone is checking if you recieved a sms or a call it drains battery. the signal strenght is not the problem. so if i cant pick up the phone when i have school or am sleeping it would be convinient if the phone would search less and conserv battery. because in airplaine mode the phone never checks for sms or if someone is calling you so this APP would check for that, just less frequently. so you would get sms and missed calls.
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the point was that when phone is checking if you recieved a sms or a call it drains battery. the signal strenght is not the problem. so if i cant pick up the phone when i have school or am sleeping it would be convinient if the phone would search less and conserv battery. because in airplaine mode the phone never checks for sms or if someone is calling you so this APP would check for that, just less frequently. so you would get sms and missed calls.
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The whole theory is wrong, your mobile phone doesn't check for incoming calls, its the BTS (base transceiver station) or RBS (radio base station) which contacts your mobile phone when there is an incoming call. And if the BTS gets response from your mobile, it reserves a channel for that call.
so why is cell standby using all this battery???
Cell standby is just the time your cell radio isnt running, but is still communicating with the towers. (this is all i could find on the interaction between phone and the operator)
so if this is true the phone is comunicating with the towers and if it would comunicate less frequently we could preserve energy with no downside to it.
or not?
when you are in airplain mode is the cell standby energy consumption 0%?
if yes this would mean that the phone is interacting with tower.
if no, i am wrong on the whole idea :silly:
but i guess it is 0% otherwise people would not use airplain mode overnight so something must be happening and by lowering the frequency of it power should be conserved and you would still get sms and missed calls.
@ManBearrrPig
1. That article you read is 2 years old. Technology is changing and I think the transmitters and radio chip in phones/towers must have improved a lot.
2. That article you have read maybe false one. I dont think that cell tower the phone checks every few seconds. If that would be the case how i call and connect others instantly?
Even if your theory is right I think it will require fiddling with cell baseband, radio hardware etc (which roms and apps dont mess with it).
Lets consider even if you find a app to control the polling time between tower and phone, if it crashes or something wrong happens then you will forever have a phone with no reception....
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so why is cell standby using all this battery???
Cell standby is just the time your cell radio isnt running, but is still communicating with the towers. (this is all i could find on the interaction between phone and the operator)
so if this is true the phone is comunicating with the towers and if it would comunicate less frequently we could preserve energy with no downside to it.
or not?
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Your mobile is constantly communicating with BTS/RBS so that your network knows about your updated location and can route all incoming calls to your cell site, plus your mobile also scans available cell sites and connects to one having best signal level.
If you are on aeroplane mode, all this communication doesn't happen that's why saving more battery.