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Anyone grabbing this badboy?

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
Just thought Id share this with you guys...

sounds pretty badass but its kinda ugly

My brother wants to go on my line, and imma either tell him the evo 3d or this.
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The specs seem pretty good but its kinda ugly and looks bulky...after this nexus I don't think I want to go to a heavier phone..oh and I love cm7 and miui
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Locked bootloader
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Itll get rooted, but bootloader is locked. With the recent breakthroughs on the Droid X with second init and getting CM7 working, count on aosp working at some point on the Photon also. Motorola may even unlock a few months down the road since they promised no more locked bootloaders.

Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.

I think it is nice, but, I genuinely love my NS4G and I haven't even rooted and started flashing yet.
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Yea dont blame you. I personally like Motorola and think itll be the best all around option sprint will see this year. Best battery and radio, guaranteed.
gunstar3035 said:
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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Oh. And the Atrix bootloader has been hacked and unlocked so im sure the photon will be figured out shortly.

gunstar3035 said:
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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Wow. That's pretty closed minded.
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Battery life will be awesome. It has a 10 hour talk time.
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If it gets unlocked, I'll jump on it. Tegra 2 processors are second to none with their 3D capabilities. I'm skeptical about battery life and the qHD display. The only phone I'm interested other than this is the SGS2 but that's not going to be out until fall according to our samsung rep.
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gunstar3035 said:
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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How would that be stupid? Other manufactures add functionality that should be included in stock android already but isn't. Unless you're stuck on the "ill get updates first wagon".
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Quis89 said:
How would that be stupid? Other manufactures add functionality that should be included in stock android already but isn't. Unless you're stuck on the "ill get updates first wagon".
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That's a matter of opinion and on the development device you have the source to add to if you wish : D not hating on you but most run to the nexus line to escape what the carrier added.
The proton is ugly imo lol, can't imagine comfort holding that thing also why are all these dual cores only pushing one gig?
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Hell yeah I am getting this phone. It is what the EVO 2 should have been. And it will be rooted, not worried about that.
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I had a flashback when I seen it I couldn't place it but I got it, the motorola i1 presumably one of the worst phones produced with android. It featured iden push to talk and that was the only selling point, shipped with 1.5 android when froyo was out, the list goes on. the design is a perfect match as far as the shape. Visit this link
www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-i1-US-EN
load the flash video and check picture 2 and the last one out. Very bulky
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Off topic but which do you prefer more, sense or motoblur. I used sense 3.0 and I totally hated it, it felt like the UI was bogging down the hardware. I never tired blur, i know some people have a thing against it but don't know why...
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chewbz said:
Off topic but which do you prefer more, sense or motoblur. I used sense 3.0 and I totally hated it, it felt like the UI was bogging down the hardware. I never tired blur, i know some people have a thing against it but don't know why...
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Because it's the ugliest, slowest, buggiest UI

Lol. The new blur isnt bad. The icons are what kill me.
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Because it's the ugliest, slowest, buggiest UI
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I hated blur when it came out on the cliq and havent touched it since then
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We have been scammed by HTC.

HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!

You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/

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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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joshnichols189 said:
Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?

Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!

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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.

Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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joshnichols189 said:
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense

For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.

Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.

Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!

ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?

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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.

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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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Which phone???

Hey my upgrade deal is coming up from T-Mobile and my question is, is the extra price worth it for an HTC one s vs the gs2? I've looked at reviews and stuff but I need some xda insight. I'm leaning towards the one s but the damn price difference is where the decision lies.
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lonoguge said:
Hey my upgrade deal is coming up from T-Mobile and my question is, is the extra price worth it for an HTC one s vs the gs2? I've looked at reviews and stuff but I need some xda insight. I'm leaning towards the one s but the damn price difference is where the decision lies.
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Why ask here man? I see no point asking here, instead, just consider yourself lol...if u have enough money, then just go to those OneS or GLXS2 forum to see which has the most roms and kernels and stuffs so that u won't have to wait or ask for ETA or discuss bout aries and trolling blah blah lmfao...

daothanhduy1996 said:
Why ask here man? I see no point asking here, instead, just consider yourself lol...if u have enough money, then just go to those OneS or GLXS2 forum to see which has the most roms and kernels and stuffs so that u won't have to wait or ask for ETA or discuss bout aries and trolling blah blah lmfao...
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I've stopped trolling and I don't think the gs4g phone is worth it anymore. I'm happy that devs are still working on it but I think I need to move on instead of begging for a new update. I've almost forgotten there are other options out there.

I don't know if it's still like this but my first android phone was a mytouch 3g slide. HTC made it and that phone was the biggest pain in the butt to get rooted due to the locked boot loader. I got the s2 and have been very happy with it.
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S3 or get out of contract while you have the chance and get a gnex+$30 a month plan.
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Colear_Bear said:
I don't know if it's still like this but my first android phone was a mytouch 3g slide. HTC made it and that phone was the biggest pain in the butt to get rooted due to the locked boot loader. I got the s2 and have been very happy with it.
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The HTC one s has been majorly upgraded it runs ics and sense 4 ( sense 4 is infinitely better than touchwiz if for no other reason the fact that touchwiz5 can be flashed as a zip onto the one s) with no worries to the one s out of the box so you get best of both worlds) has an awesome 4.3 in 900 by 560 screen res but easily a one handed device due to the thin design. Has an amazing camera a great dual core 1.5 MHz thingy ma bob (not the most tech specific term) and i could definately see the smoothness was comparable to the one x's and the gs3 but it has no expandable memory or access to battery. Oh and a HUUUUGGGE plus is that the one s has an alpha cm10 build already. So pretty much the s one is better than the s2 in every thing except for storage, price, and nfc. Seems like a no brainer right! Its just that with a 2 yr contract the one s is $150 vs the gs2's wapping 0 dollars. I could wait for the price to drop but it was at 50$ back in April when I couldn't upgrade so I doubt the price will drop that much. I feel like this post may have answered by own question lol.
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For me the deciding factor would be the development community. Which one is strong and friendly.

SGS III by far.
The best phone humanity has today, with an external micro SD card slot, unique Sammy features and beasty specs.

I would get the galaxy s 2 (or 3 but you didn't mention it). HTC one s has a **** ton of hardware issues that even HTC has admitted

itzik2sh said:
SGS III by far.
The best phone humanity has today, with an external micro SD card slot, unique Sammy features and beasty specs.
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agreed but unfortunately the s3 isn't an option because it costs more than double my budget
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For me the deciding factor would be the development community. Which one is strong and friendly.
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I've seen both communities and because they're both popular their community is thriving. Like I said both have jb builds that are improving each day. J doubt either phone will be left behind
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I'd go for HTC One S for the looks.

I'd go for [email protected]!ing fake phones from China so that i can have a Galaxy S2 look alike phone running sense, an most unstable phone tgat can be die whenever it like and a cheap phone (just 50 usd or so) that dont have to be unlocked for carriers lmfao
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You should get HTC since apparently you have such a hard on for sense

HTC
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pisherthefisher said:
You should get HTC since apparently you have such a hard on for sense
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I've never used a sense phone ever! Change is good stop living in a bubble.
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lonoguge said:
I've never used a sense phone ever! Change is good stop living in a bubble.
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I never said sense is bad. Just that you have a hard on for it.

lonoguge said:
The HTC one s has been majorly upgraded it runs ics and sense 4 ( sense 4 is infinitely better than touchwiz if for no other reason the fact that touchwiz5 can be flashed as a zip onto the one s) with no worries to the one s out of the box so you get best of both worlds) has an awesome 4.3 in 900 by 560 screen res but easily a one handed device due to the thin design. Has an amazing camera a great dual core 1.5 MHz thingy ma bob (not the most tech specific term) and i could definately see the smoothness was comparable to the one x's and the gs3 but it has no expandable memory or access to battery. Oh and a HUUUUGGGE plus is that the one s has an alpha cm10 build already. So pretty much the s one is better than the s2 in every thing except for storage, price, and nfc. Seems like a no brainer right! Its just that with a 2 yr contract the one s is $150 vs the gs2's wapping 0 dollars. I could wait for the price to drop but it was at 50$ back in April when I couldn't upgrade so I doubt the price will drop that much. I feel like this post may have answered by own question lol.
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Go look at the s2 forum, I'm running cm10 alpha on mine right now and it is official lol. It was up in the air for me between the one s and s2 as well. I would rather have reliable hardware
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Colear_Bear said:
Go look at the s2 forum, I'm running cm10 alpha on mine right now and it is official lol. It was up in the air for me between the one s and s2 as well. I would rather have reliable hardware
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How are you liking it?
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I'd wait til later in the year to see what the new Nexus device/devices will be. The GS4G, and mainly it's dev community, is more than enough to suffice until then

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How are you liking it?
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Honestly I didn't know what the big deal was when I was on this forum before I got this phone with jelly bean. And now having used it for a couple weeks I really still don't see the big deal with it. It's nice don't get me wrong but it's not leaps and bounds better than ics like gb was to ics.
All in all I'm happy with the phone. Dual core is awesome, the gig of ram also helps allot. love the bigger screen. And with the 16g internal and the 16g sd card I had from my sgs4g I don't think I will be worrying about storage problems for awhile lol
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AT&T jellybean update?

Y'all think AT&T has plans to update straight to 4.2 instead of 4.1.1 seeing as how the hox+ update is already in progress.
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Alan Corona said:
Y'all think AT&T has plans to update straight to 4.2 instead of 4.1.1 seeing as how the hox+ update is already in progress.
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doubt it. they'll probably update it to 4.1.1, and then that'll be the last update we see from them.
My honest opinion

Would be nice but fat chance
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Would be great even if they give us 4. 1. 1
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I read this on a google news search might be BS but I'd love it. And most phones usually get at the most one or two updates small or big doesn't matter too the companies, seeing as how they would want there customers to upgrade their phones in the name of making more money.
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i'm growing increasingly impatient with htc. Once you go Nexus nothing really compares after imo

I think that is the main reason why jellybean is so late. They are going to give us that one update and that's it.

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I think that is the main reason why jellybean is so late. They are going to give us that one update and that's it.
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Its a tough call for me. Nexus devices are supported pretty darn well. I mean, nexus s got jellybean and it can barely run it. (read run it smoothly for longer than two weeks)
But on the other hand, I tried a phone with no sense available, and I realized how much I liked sense (even though I'm only on it like half the time)
But my point is, sense is the slickest, most coherent ui overlay, and that has got to take time to do properly. Yeah, yeah, they drag their heels so we upgrade...but in all fairness, I do think they put a lot of work into it.
I think in the end I've decided that a stable version of sense is worth two of aosp. That's just my personal opinion.
After a decent aosp jellybean was released for desire z, I found myself still running gb sense 2.1. It was just a great OS that was hard to fault.
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Yeah, they'll give us 4.2.1 with sense 5 because AT&T is the best!

I imagine we won't get an update until the hox+ gets there's
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Yeah, they'll give us 4.2.1 with sense 5 because AT&T is the best!
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too many beers.....

I wish HTC would make the next nexus that way we could have the option to run sense and aosp
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jrlatta said:
I wish HTC would make the next nexus that way we could have the option to run sense and aosp
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Too many beers too
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jrlatta said:
I wish HTC would make the next nexus that way we could have the option to run sense and aosp
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What???

Red5 said:
What???
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exactly

CheesyNutz said:
exactly
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The N1 runs sense ports. Assuming that's what he's talking about.
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Or maybe when you first turn the phone on you can have like an aroma option to run pure Google or sense

ATT is run by an arrogant ahole who only cares about the stock price(Randall Stevenson I'm calling you out). Why actually spend money on getting us JB when he can continue to line his pockets. "Eat the rich, its the only thing that they are good for"-Aerosmith
Couldn't be truer. Do nothing paper pushing thieves. He cost att billions in the failed tmo merger and got a 20+ million bonus and then they re-elected him. Ponderous to say the least. If anyone of us cost their company billions, we would be fired and probably brought up on charges.
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Alan Corona said:
Y'all think AT&T has plans to update straight to 4.2 instead of 4.1.1 seeing as how the hox+ update is already in progress.
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Att has no reason to give us anything. We already got one update I doubt that a second one is coming. They have a hox+ and sg3 to sell, why would they care about the hoxl.

GroovyGeek said:
why would they care about the hoxl.
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Why are all you AT&T users so pessimistic. Be happy and enjoy life, love your phone and its amazingness and stop sounding so much like Marvin from The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Should I trade my inspire 4g for a Nexus s

Always wanted a nexus s when they can out have a inspire 4g right now but had a offer for a Nexus s so what would be best? If anyone has both and could tell me what one is better and why that would help thanks
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They look pretty similar, here's the spec sheets for both though if you haven't seen them yet. Looks like your Inspire has more RAM but Nexus has a way bigger hard drive. I've had my NS for a few weeks now and I'm happy with it despite it being two years old. There are some great roms for it too, HTC was a let down for me on the development side. Plus it's just a sexy looking phone I would make the trade if the condition is similar on the two but that's just me, I'll take pure android over Sense any day.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s-3620.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_inspire_4g-3706.php

Yeah I think the ns looks way better over the inspire but the inspire is running 4.2 nicely how is the NS at 4.2
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d3adbroke said:
Yeah I think the ns looks way better over the inspire but the inspire is running 4.2 nicely how is the NS at 4.2
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The 4.2 roms I've tried are great, very little lag if any with the right kernel. I think the drop in ram will be your biggest issue though, may not be quite as smooth as yours.

d3adbroke said:
Yeah I think the ns looks way better over the inspire but the inspire is running 4.2 nicely how is the NS at 4.2
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Mann, try this new 'devil kernel' by Dominik with latest CM10.1 nightlies. GOD! BUTTERY SMOOTH AS HELL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135116
I got my Nexus S 2 months ago and I don't regret buying it. If there are a right developers, device will be never dead.
P.S. It has such a small quadrant's results, but i don't belive in **** like benchmarks. MC4 works awesome, even better than on 2.3 or 4.0/4.1.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40922694&postcount=15

d3adbroke said:
Always wanted a nexus s when they can out have a inspire 4g right now but had a offer for a Nexus s so what would be best? If anyone has both and could tell me what one is better and why that would help thanks
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The develpoment section is better for the Nexus, the sexyness is undoutible asswell, just turn the screen of on it and look! (Nexus looks more modern do you see how new devices tend to have round corners?)...if you are not certan on the other owner's phone do not traid but if the device is ok, do it in a heartbeat!