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We have been scammed by HTC.

HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!

You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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joshnichols189 said:
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/

LikeaG2root said:
Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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joshnichols189 said:
Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?

Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!

LikeaG2root said:
Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.

Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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joshnichols189 said:
Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense

For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.

Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.

Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!

ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?

joshnichols189 said:
You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.

joshnichols189 said:
You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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[Petition] HTC Give us Desire HD ICS

Hey everyone, this is a petition to get HTC to give us Ice Cream Sandwich. As people have seen, HTC released this statement
After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers.
Now as anyone on XDA we know this is not true. This is really getting alot of us mad, and I thought it is about time we do something as a community. Now, the HTC Desire was suppose to get Gingerbread, but ended up not being able to handle Gingerbread with Sense on top of it, so because of that and the efforts of the community, HTC released an RUU on the HTCDev.com website for a pure Ginerbread update. Now if HTC is not going to bring an update for our phone, they can at lest bring a ICS RUU then. It at lest gives us Devs offical libs and kernel.
Now please people, can you please sign this petition, we need to show HTC that we care about this phone, and we want this update.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-us-ics/
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If it asks you to donate after you vote, that is not going to are cause that is going to ipetitions, just click the back button or close the tab
Spread this everywhere you can we want this to go big!!
If the Desire HD gets native ICS then we will also get easily, which also means a working camera so please sign this Petition.

Signed lolk
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Just sell your phone and never buy another HTC phone ever again

Please HTC don't push us to buy OneX stopping ICS for DHD, don't be evil....

signed

Signed

Signed.
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Logged in with facebook!!!!!

is Desire HD the only phone that will give us a working cam?

Signed
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I signed but do these actually ever work?
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exemp30 said:
I signed but do these actually ever work?
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Occasionally. Don't be a hater.

Signed. What happens if I sign again.
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estallings15 said:
Occasionally. Don't be a hater.
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Not hating I do hope this does work
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Signed. I would love to see this work. While I am still under contract and under a certain lack of funds to switch to the 'Pure Google' experience that is Nexus, I would like to see ICS or JB on a similar device so the glacier gets the proper drivers so we can all have a fully functional experience. Fun all around.

6048 and growing!
The number is 6048 and growing!

mynameis123 said:
The number is 6048 and growing!
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That is pretty impressive...But it's kinda clear that Htc wants everyone to buy a HOAX.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417196&postcount=441

Smalls_ said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417196&postcount=441
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Well that sucks...
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JB in November 2012

Hi,
HTC confirmed that the S will get its JB-Update in Novemver 2012. (http://www.golem.de/news/hands-on-htc-one-x-plus-mit-schnellerem-tegra-3-prozessor-1210-94817-3.html) (german!)
Greets

YAY , only a month
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Hmm interesting. Flash player will natively work on the JB upgrade...

Vauix said:
Hmm interesting. Flash player will natively work on the JB upgrade...
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On Engadget it says that JB will be rolling out THIS month!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/htc-jelly-bean-one-series/

According to gsmarena.com JB will arrive this month!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_with_android_41_jelly_bean_is_now_official__-news-4884.php

stylus1828 said:
According to gsmarena.com JB will arrive this month!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_with_android_41_jelly_bean_is_now_official__-news-4884.php
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maybe they'll roll it out on different times in different countries...

Yeah... that's true.
It's sad because we the owners that use the s3 version of the htc one s didn't get android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 and others will be getting jb this month!
Another F.U. post for HTC !

Yea, but if you read at the bottom, tmo one s won't get it with the rest, it's bad enough having to wait on manufacturers to work the new version into their skin that they just haaave to have, but we also have to wait on the carrier to approve and add their extra layer of crap. I really wish they would all just give us the option to run vanilla android if we wanted without rooting. It does me up the wall. Ok I'm done ranting now.
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The one s and one x, won't see jb until the one x+ is released
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JB come to HOS and HOX free's in october, with a company comes in november-december

This is good, seems HTC and Samsung both want to get there flagship devices on jb, but we will probably see a leak sooner I knew it was coming soon
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Yanno with how tmo is constantly trying to improve everything. Common sense would b to get these updates out quickly. To build confidence with there customers.
But it does make sense for HTC to wait for the one x+ to land in the u.s .. but screw both theories /endofrant
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Well even if that's the case we will still see it here before T-Mobile anyways but atleast we know when to expect it
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stylus1828 said:
Yeah... that's true.
It's sad because we the owners that use the s3 version of the htc one s didn't get android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 and others will be getting jb this month!
Another F.U. post for HTC !
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Why didn't you make sure you bought the s4 before buying it?
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Many of us didn't know that there are 2 versions of the One S (i didn't).
Add to that the fact that the S3 is sold in specific regions.

greeneyes513 said:
The one s and one x, won't see jb until the one x+ is released
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One x+ ? Wtf?
If I helped in any way please hit thanks

CrayzyBoy said:
One x+ ? Wtf?
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Have a look at the OP.

dbgrigg189 said:
Yea, but if you read at the bottom, tmo one s won't get it with the rest, it's bad enough having to wait on manufacturers to work the new version into their skin that they just haaave to have, but we also have to wait on the carrier to approve and add their extra layer of crap. I really wish they would all just give us the option to run vanilla android if we wanted without rooting. It does me up the wall. Ok I'm done ranting now.
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You do have a choice.... its called get a Nexus!!! HTC/Samsung/Motorola/etc, always have, and always will add a skin to their phones. It's one of the reasons I bought my One S... For Sense!!!!! I never understood why people complain and ask companies to remove the one feature they add that is PURPOSELY added to help differentiate their phones from all the rest.

I prefer vanilla over sense. I bought the One S because of the excellent hardware, not because of sense. Still I would say that sense is better than vanilla for beginners. Some reasons:
1. Labels under every button so its behavior is clear. In some Google apps, for example Gmail, there are lots of buttons without labels and its not always clear what they do. Yes, I know I can long press to get description, but not everyone does.
2. More functionality included without third party apps. Why hasn't Google included something as basic as stopwatch in their clock app?
Theres probably more, but this is what I could think of now

Habarug said:
I prefer vanilla over sense. I bought the One S because of the excellent hardware, not because of sense. Still I would say that sense is better than vanilla for beginners. Some reasons:
1. Labels under every button so its behavior is clear. In some Google apps, for example Gmail, there are lots of buttons without labels and its not always clear what they do. Yes, I know I can long press to get description, but not everyone does.
2. More functionality included without third party apps. Why hasn't Google included something as basic as stopwatch in their clock app?
Theres probably more, but this is what I could think of now
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Wow...been using Android for many years and just learned about this long press trick. I don't care about #2...I'd rather find an app that works the way I want it to rather than have some bloatware running in the background all the time.

Considered selling your HOX for a Nexus 4?

Well, have you? I have. I know I can get at least $325 for it if not the full $350.
I feel like it's a bit of a downgrade but I'd like other opinions. (vanilla is looking pretty nice with JB so distant still)

OK. What's the major difference, honestly?
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absolutelygrim said:
OK. What's the major difference, honestly?
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Vanilla android. Which is a big difference over stock. I have a Nexus 7 and I love the UI.
More battery and more RAM.
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Cm10 is pretty close to vanilla. If that's your only reason for switching then so be it. I have one reason why I won't switch. And once that is remedied I'm going to nexus permanently.
4G LTE.
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absolutelygrim said:
Cm10 is pretty close to vanilla. If that's your only reason for switching then so be it. I have one reason why I won't switch. And once that is remedied I'm going to nexus permanently.
4G LTE.
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I'm not comfortable using CM10 unless by now it's finished or much more stable. Do you recommend it?

jphilippon said:
I'm not comfortable using CM10 unless by now it's finished or much more stable. Do you recommend it?
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I haven't used cm10 yet. But aokp is extremely stable and has a lot of customization.
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absolutelygrim said:
I haven't used cm10 yet. But aokp is extremely stable and has a lot of customization.
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Mind sending me a link to the ROM you're talking about?
I was considering trying this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33583071

absolutelygrim said:
OK. What's the major difference, honestly?
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Not that performance is not already enough on the ONE X but doesn't the Nexus 4 have a quad core S4 and a significantly more powerful GPU. This makes it about twice as fast as the HOX already and it has a bigger battery and vanilla android and will get the newest Android OS'.
My biggest concern is storage size at 8GB or 16GB isn't much and it just doesn't look as nice as the white HOX.

The fact that it's made by LG turns me off. The HOX is awesome in its own right and I think Sense is great in terms of usability. HTC has come a very long way with refining Sense into what it is now (remember Sense 2.0 and 2.1? *shudder*).
I've had the Tegra 3 version of the HOX, sure the 'benchmarks' said it was better, but in actual usage, the dual-core S3 spanked it. On top of that, LTE! Only time I will ever get a Nexus device is if it is from HTC though.

I'm buying one, but I'm not selling my HOX.
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jphilippon said:
I'm not comfortable using CM10 unless by now it's finished or much more stable. Do you recommend it?
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I can recommend it. Been runny nightly builds for about 2 months now, never had any major problems (the occasional reboot or something) but everything works great.
I considered switching, but like the verge review pointed out, the lack of LTE is a hard thing to drop. Stock 4.2 would be really nice, but I bet it'll be available soon (either AOKP or CM10) and I'll just keep my superfast LTE.

No.
Please stop these alternate phone threads.
WR
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Athrun88 said:
The fact that it's made by LG turns me off.
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Me too. LG phones feel and look cheap. They've gotten better recently, but still not up to par with HTC or even Samsung. I'd be interested in a new Nexus phone, but not from LG.
Weren't they talking at one point about 4 or more Nexus devices coming out by years end?

now that i have had a chance to red some reviews i think im going to pass on this
but im going to stick with my HOX and see what comes out in the new year

jphilippon said:
Well, have you? I have. I know I can get at least $325 for it if not the full $350.
I feel like it's a bit of a downgrade but I'd like other opinions. (vanilla is looking pretty nice with JB so distant still)
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Thought about it, but I couldn't live without LTE. HSPA+ in San Diego is a laughable joke. A lot of times I can't even stream music when I am driving.

CheesyNutz said:
now that i have had a chance to red some reviews i think im going to pass on this
but im going to stick with my HOX and see what comes out in the new year
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which reviews dissuaded you? they all seem to only harp on the lack of LTE but to be honest, I don't get LTE where I live anyway.

Sense 5 and 4.2.2 confirmed for the evita?

https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/314061165569400832 Just saw this on the android subreddit. The other devices listed are the evitare (AT&T One X Plus), Jewel (EVO 4G LTE), and DLX_WL (Droid DNA).

oooh that would be nice!

Any idea who the guy tweeting is? I'm guessing a random developer. What makes his tweet any different/more important then the news we received from htc saying the one x will receive sense 5 eventually?
In any event, looks like good news and I can't wait!

unitedatom said:
Any idea who the guy tweeting is? I'm guessing a random developer. What makes his tweet any different/more important then the news we received from htc saying the one x will receive sense 5 eventually?
In any event, looks like good news and I can't wait!
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Because HTC officially confirmed only for the international quad core version of the phone. Also, I have no clue who the person tweeting it is, hence why I put the question mark in the title. But it seems legit...

The "guy" is Football. It is spelled backwards since some issues in December.
A well respected source of info.
He leaked about 90% of the RUU's we have for our devices before he stopped doing that in December 2012.
He gives highly accurate info regarding the state of devices and their updates.
I believe he is a HTC employee with at least access to RUU's for both internal and public builds.

twistedddx said:
The "guy" is Football. It is spelled backwards since some issues in December.
I well respected source of info.
He leaked about 90% of the RUU's we have for our devices before he stopped doing that in December 2012.
He gives highly accurate info regarding the state of devices and their updates.
I believe he is a HTC employee with at least access to RUU's for both internal and public builds.
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... How I didn't notice that I just don't know lol

Question is when will at&t push ota,my guess is 4quater of this year,considering we just got jb,plus they will want the htc one to sell ,so there for thats why i dont think will get it tll after htc one's sales slow down???

jwhood said:
Question is when will at&t push ota,my guess is 4quater of this year,considering we just got jb,plus they will want the htc one to sell ,so there for thats why i dont think will get it tll after htc one's sales slow down???
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If you're rooted it doesn't really matter when AT&T releases it, just when the first carrier does or when it gets leaked. Still, I wouldn't expect it for a bit, probably not until the summer at the earliest. Unless HTC really is being truthful about updating their phones in a timely manner.

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If you're rooted it doesn't really matter when AT&T releases it, just when the first carrier does or when it gets leaked. Still, I wouldn't expect it for a bit, probably not until the summer at the earliest. Unless HTC really is being truthful about updating their phones in a timely manner.
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I agree on the leak,just hope newroot can get it ported and the the ota would be obsolete,except for fixing bugs and tighting the kernel up a bit!!!
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'd love to see CleanROM or ViperXL Sense 5 ROMs, though.

Protogon said:
I'll believe it when I see it. I'd love to see CleanROM or ViperXL Sense 5 ROMs, though.
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Viper said they are waiting for source to port if im not mistaken,the guys over at evolte thread got a sense 5 booting but shuts off after a minute or two!!!
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Would be cool to have as a better base for devs. Although I'm preparing for the noobz to ota and brick their devices lol
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4.2.2 would be cool, but sense 5 is meh. All its going to do is make the phone look like a cartoon with sharp edges.
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ECEXCURSION said:
4.2.2 would be cool, but sense 5 is meh. All its going to do is make the phone look like a cartoon with sharp edges.
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And I 100% agree with you. The only new thing I see is the blink feed which many apps can already do. Last time I checked sense 5 is 4.1.2 right?
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ECEXCURSION said:
4.2.2 would be cool, but sense 5 is meh. All its going to do is make the phone look like a cartoon with sharp edges.
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agreed, i'm so-so on sense 5, but would much rather have 4.2.2 if given the choice between one of the two software developments. 5 seems like it could bring about a new set of issues that sense has already worked out in the 4.x versions, but 4.2.2 stands to improve a lot of the little issues that 4.1.x is experiencing.

Herc08 said:
And I 100% agree with you. The only new thing I see is the blink feed which many apps can already do. Last time I checked sense 5 is 4.1.2 right?
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Yes, but there's an update to 4.2.2 and they'd fast pass us to 4.2.2 and skip 4.1.2.

You can disable blink feed if you want

RollTribe said:
Yes, but there's an update to 4.2.2 and they'd fast pass us to 4.2.2 and skip 4.1.2.
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Are we referring to one xl or one x? (Or is it the same?) I think it is strange to update the one x straight from sense 4 to sense 5 (skipping sense 4+). Then again, after leaving sense I'm glad I did. Not missing anything. I know Evita is the one x (as it says it on my boot loader), but is it the same code name for others? What about enverbous (I think)
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a box of kittens said:
You can disable blink feed if you want
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Not officially. You can only remove it as the default home screen. But you can't disable it.
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Herc08 said:
Are we referring to one xl or one x? (Or is it the same?) I think it is strange to update the one x straight from sense 4 to sense 5 (skipping sense 4+). Then again, after leaving sense I'm glad I did. Not missing anything. I know Evita is the one x (as it says it on my boot loader), but is it the same code name for others? What about enverbous (I think)
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Both the One X and One XL have been updated to Sense 4+ officially, so not sure what you mean by "skipping Sense 4+". The only big thing is that they would be skipping 4.1.2 in favor of 4.2.2, which would make sense IMO