[a700] Stock apps on CM10? - Acer Iconia A700 and A510

I recently installed CyanogenMod 10 nightly on my a700, and I've really been liking it so far. However, there are some features from the stock JB ROM that I really liked, namely the Acer Ring, Acer Lock, and the option to change screen sensitivity. I've read online about an AcerShell.zip that I could flash to regain these features, but the only link I could find for the file was dead. Are these features that are eventually going to be added, seeing as this nightly build is fairly new? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

OMIGHTY1 said:
I recently installed CyanogenMod 10 nightly on my a700, and I've really been liking it so far. However, there are some features from the stock JB ROM that I really liked, namely the Acer Ring, Acer Lock, and the . I've read online about an AcerShell.zip that I could flash to regain these features, but the only link I could find for the file was dead. Are these features that are eventually going to be added, seeing as this nightly build is fairly new? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Why do you you need the option to change screen sensitivity, i thought that the CM10 is very sensitive? and to be exact more sensitive thatn stock jb. Isnt that the case?

It is more sensitive than stock normally would be, but I had an option to set the sensitivity even higher.
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[Q] New to transformers: rom/kernel/app advice

Hello,
I am coming from the Acer A500, which I really liked running flexreaper. Now I am looking at loading a custom ics rom for the Asus. I know there are lots of differences in roms like the acer so im looking for recommendations. Id like it to be fast (duh) and im big on widgets and making it look flashy, so a bare bones rom isnt for me. What would you recommend? Any custom kernels for it. I like the idea of overclocking. Finally, any must have apps specific to the asus that i should look at? Thanks for all your help!
I've found the Revolver 4 ROM quite stable. You can keep the tablet's functionality and customization pretty stock and it's one of the fastest ROMs available. Some of the other ROMs I've tried include the EOS and CM9 and have each displayed varying degrees of bugs currently, especially if you use the dock at all. When Revolver Parts comes available for Revolver 4, you'll get a lot more customization and the ability to try custom kernels when they show up for ICS.
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I second Revolver 4 1.3.1. I borked it up myself when I upgraded without a full wipe from Revolver 3.11.
If flashy and function featured is your goal go with Revolver 3 for now. It ran super fast for me with the O/C kernel from Pandatest and NO glitches. Revolver 4 ran fine once I installed it properly, but it felt limited in that there are no ICS kernels right now. I also experienced some strange battery drain.
At the moment I am testing CM9 with Cornerstone. Talk about flashy! Some annoying bugs but for me I might be willing to put up with them for this cornerstone app.
dman918 said:
Hello,
I am coming from the Acer A500, which I really liked running flexreaper. Now I am looking at loading a custom ics rom for the Asus. I know there are lots of differences in roms like the acer so im looking for recommendations. Id like it to be fast (duh) and im big on widgets and making it look flashy, so a bare bones rom isnt for me. What would you recommend? Any custom kernels for it. I like the idea of overclocking. Finally, any must have apps specific to the asus that i should look at? Thanks for all your help!
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Assuming you don't care about Cornerstone, it's either Revolver http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518768 or Codename Android http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534648
Since you said you like to customize, Codename Android might be a better option for you right now. It has several built-in customization options that other ROMs don't have.
Custom kernels and overclocking isn't possible until Asus releases the kernel source. We don't know when but they probably will release it like they did for Honeycomb.
Thanks for the responses. Ill start with revolver and check out codename android as well.
I should ask, is there some pros and cons listed about cornerstone? It wasnt an option on the a500 so im not too familiar with it other than being for multitasking.
I am getting used to cornerstone. I really like the ability to chat with my wife and browse the web simultaneously. I'm in afghanistan so our internet is really slow. It sux to type a sentence and go back and forth between instances just to make sure Gtalk is still connected.
However, as noted by other comments, CM9 is a bit buggy in its support for the dock and feel. I've had a few random bugs that seem to fix themselves after a reboot never to return. For me, not having the ability to disable the trackpad sucks. I constantly hit it as i type. Almost all of the top row hotkeys are either not functioning or slow to respond.
I really wish revolver 4 was further along now. Revolver 3 really impressed me (spoiled me) to the point I always want that next ROM with more features.
Running revolver at the moment. It's a nice ROM, but these random reboots are annoying. Are any of these other ROMs, such as CM9, as flashy and feature rich? Just thinking of trying something else out to compare.
Thanks!
dman918 said:
Running revolver at the moment. It's a nice ROM, but these random reboots are annoying. Are any of these other ROMs, such as CM9, as flashy and feature rich? Just thinking of trying something else out to compare.
Thanks!
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I'm running the CM9 without cornerstone and can't be happier. Actually, I could once theming and other misc tweaks are put into CM9, but the ROM is solid with amazing battery life. It is really snappy too. I just wish I could get a similar port for my Evo 4G, but I will have to wait until deck's release comes out of beta.
I also strongly recommend CM9, which is now Megatron 1.0
linuques said:
I also strongly recommend CM9, which is now Megatron 1.0
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There are now 3 custom kernels to
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
All ICS roms for the TF is plagued by random reboots/SOD's, unfortunely.
That said, team EOS build 19 has now been running stable for me for 123h.
Goatshocker said:
All ICS roms for the TF is plagued by random reboots/SOD's, unfortunely.
That said, team EOS build 19 has now been running stable for me for 123h.
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Not from my experience. Since a couple of tests into guevors kernels, I've never had a RR or SOD anymore. Using CM9 btw

[Q] Why lack of ROMs / Root even worth it?

Hello everyone,
I just got my TF300T last night and it is a great tablet. Before I do anything (upgrade to Jellybean, etc) I am wondering why it seems there isn't much development for the tablet. I have had a couple android tablets and phones, and have rooted all of them for custom ROMs and such, but it almost seems like that's not really done a whole lot here. I just read one thread where the stock ROM was preferred by a good deal over any other ROM. Is there any reason for this? Any particular reasons I should still root, other than installing custom ROMs and kernels?
Thanks for your input.
dman918 said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my TF300T last night and it is a great tablet. Before I do anything (upgrade to Jellybean, etc) I am wondering why it seems there isn't much development for the tablet. I have had a couple android tablets and phones, and have rooted all of them for custom ROMs and such, but it almost seems like that's not really done a whole lot here. I just read one thread where the stock ROM was preferred by a good deal over any other ROM. Is there any reason for this? Any particular reasons I should still root, other than installing custom ROMs and kernels?
Thanks for your input.
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Rooting is not required to install a rom, most non stock roms are rooted when you install ( they require you to unlock and void warranty ). If you wish to stay stock and don't see a need for root then don't do it.
If I could begin again I would stay on ICS for a time longer. I think good things for this unit are around the next corner.
Devs are working hard to make this happen. The JB bootloader has caused problems with most roms we are accustomed to. Once on JB you can't go back to ICS ( at this time ).
Good Luck!
Thank you for the response. How would I load TWRP onto the tablet then? I know people are suggesting not to unlock the tablet's bootloader unless I have to, so I'd prefer not to.
I figure if I go to JB, I'd load something like CleanROM as people seem to be quite happy with it.
Any additional information is greatly appreciated.
You need to unlock your tablet if u want to install a Rom and recovery
Oh ok. Gotcha. So then I think I know which guide I have to use. Thank you for your help and clarification.
OK, unlocked and such. Loaded CleanROM. Running well so far, but now I have to research ROMs to see which reigns supreme.
Cleanrom is the best for with unt's kernel
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dman918 said:
OK, unlocked and such. Loaded CleanROM. Running well so far, but now I have to research ROMs to see which reigns supreme.
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Since you are now on the JB bootloader here is a thread to watch as there will be a new rom coming, don't hold your breath. The reason for the breath statement is this is a big undertaking. It will allow numerous other roms you don't now see in the dev section. Everything now available on JB is based on the stock kernel, this should overcome that limitation.
AOSP, AOKP, Paranoid Android, and so on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942369
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stock optimized for combination with keyboard dock
dman918 said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my TF300T last night and it is a great tablet. Before I do anything (upgrade to Jellybean, etc) I am wondering why it seems there isn't much development for the tablet. I have had a couple android tablets and phones, and have rooted all of them for custom ROMs and such, but it almost seems like that's not really done a whole lot here. I just read one thread where the stock ROM was preferred by a good deal over any other ROM. Is there any reason for this? Any particular reasons I should still root, other than installing custom ROMs and kernels?
Thanks for your input.
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For me personally, I prefer using a stock-based ROM over the AOSP based ROM for day to day use. The reason is really simple, and that is the keyboard dock works much better on the stock based ROM. In CM10, for example, the lock/unlock button on the keyboard doesn't work. Also, closing the tablet and the keyboard does not result in the screen turning off automatically (you have to manually press the power button whenever you want to close the tab-dock). If you forget to do this, the battery takes a hit. As well, the mouse cursor in AOSP ROM is not exactly a "cursor", more like a giant circle (it's the default touch indicator in android). I use the keyboard dock a lot for drafting my college assignments, so stock-based Roms are perfect for me.
sosroz said:
For me personally, I prefer using a stock-based ROM over the AOSP based ROM for day to day use. The reason is really simple, and that is the keyboard dock works much better on the stock based ROM. In CM10, for example, the lock/unlock button on the keyboard doesn't work. Also, closing the tablet and the keyboard does not result in the screen turning off automatically (you have to manually press the power button whenever you want to close the tab-dock). If you forget to do this, the battery takes a hit. As well, the mouse cursor in AOSP ROM is not exactly a "cursor", more like a giant circle (it's the default touch indicator in android). I use the keyboard dock a lot for drafting my college assignments, so stock-based Roms are perfect for me.
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I've noticed the same thing with the closing the tab-dock issue. When I turn off my screen and close it, the screen turns back on right before the tab touches the dock to close, so I have to turn it off again right before closing it to prevent random stuff from opening up/battery draining.
Other than that, I've had great fun playing with the various ROMs. I ran CM9 for the longest time but I switched recently to the Blackbean ROM. Its based on CM9 so it has all the features I like, but its all black/inverted so its better for battery and a lot easier to read in bed at night.
CleanROM is good, so is HydroROM, but I've found that I really enjoy the speed and efficiency of some of these other custom ROMS.

Any ROM without these specific Bugs?

I tried AOKP and a few other ROMs. I'm not going to ask anyone what is best because I know I'll get flamed.
Am I allowed to ask for pointers?
What I am looking for is something specific and hunting around trying ROM by ROM is exhausting.
I'd really appreciate advice if anyone has seen what I am looking for.
1. The screen flicker bug where you have to disable overlays each time you restart is a showstopper. I am looking for a ROM that does not have this horrible bug.
2. The bug that garbles the speaker phone sound is also a show stopper. So the ROM cannot have this either.
3. Jelly Bean
4. Google Now
Does anyone know of any ROMs that meet this criteria?
Right now I'm back to stock Jelly Bean with Touch Whiz and I have to say I love Touch Whiz for the alarm and calendar apps. The flicker is gone and sound on speaker phone is good, but I miss the bells and whistles of those custom ROMs.
Anyone know of a ROM that meets my 4 criteria? Thanks a ton!
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Pretty much any touchwiz roms dont have these issues. Have you checked out JellyBeans? Its a touchwiz rom thats themed to look like AOSP.
o1webdawg said:
I tried AOKP and a few other ROMs. I'm not going to ask anyone what is best because I know I'll get flamed.
Am I allowed to ask for pointers?
What I am looking for is something specific and hunting around trying ROM by ROM is exhausting.
I'd really appreciate advice if anyone has seen what I am looking for.
1. The screen flicker bug where you have to disable overlays each time you restart is a showstopper. I am looking for a ROM that does not have this horrible bug.
2. The bug that garbles the speaker phone sound is also a show stopper. So the ROM cannot have this either.
3. Jelly Bean
4. Google Now
Does anyone know of any ROMs that meet this criteria?
Right now I'm back to stock Jelly Bean with Touch Whiz and I have to say I love Touch Whiz for the alarm and calendar apps. The flicker is gone and sound on speaker phone is good, but I miss the bells and whistles of those custom ROMs.
Anyone know of a ROM that meets my 4 criteria? Thanks a ton!
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I use CleanRom 5.0 and I do not have any of these problems. I had to flash root66 jelly bean first, do a unlock then wipe cache then used CM recovery to flash CleanRom
dodgem2012 said:
I use CleanRom 5.0 and I do not have any of these problems. I had to flash root66 jelly bean first, do a unlock then wipe cache then used CM recovery to flash CleanRom
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You should odin the K1 leak, then odin the bootchain image with the custom recovery, then flash the root/bootloader unlock then just rockin the F2 baseband. Im sure its fine but I do notice that being on the same baseband as the rom's based its a tad bit smoother.
I don't believe liquidsmooth has any of these issues.
Highly recommend using RC9 with imoseyon 1.7 or ktoonz 10/31. Anything from November seems to create the black screen issue where it doesn't power on the first time you hit the button. I had some other issues as well with hotboots etc while playing games. With imoseyon 1.7 it's rock solid.
Thanks Everyone!
Some of the info in here is over my head and I'll have to research (e.g. the different kernels mentioned). But this is some great info and I'm going to try some of these out. Thanks a ton!
you should redownload and reflash milestone one from AOKP. I dont have any of those issue, Im not sure why you do but everyones phone is different!
running ktoonz kernel i get tremendous battery life, no flicker and a great experience.
In case anyone is in a similar situation I wanted to share my final choice.
I decided that I really love TW because the Smart Stay, Calendar, and Smart Alarms are pretty darn good.
So I installed Clean Rom 5, AC!D AUDIO ENGINE v5, and Kinda Crap Mods 2.4 (for the Mobile Hot spot and Blue Icons)
Everything seems to play really nice with each other. The sound is awesome and everything I tested is stable and fast.
I'll probably keep this for a while now. I'd recommend this setup.

Slider SL101 and JB roms

Has anyone developed a JB rom yet that works correctly with the Slider keyboard? The ones I tried a couple of months ago all turned off the screen when you opened the keyboard.
Thanks
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I don't have a slider, but try the EOS4 and/or Noname cm10.1 builds, they might have implemented this functionality.
EOS 4 hasn't, I'll try No Name
You should report back here if you find out. I'm looking to breathe new life into my Slider.
None of them are compatible due to the rom reading the opening of the keyboard as a docked transformer being closed. The Megatron rom had a switch to disable this feature for the Slider. I'm afraid no one cares to take the time for us since there weren't that many Sliders sold.
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Also a SL101 owner
Sziehr said:
None of them are compatible due to the rom reading the opening of the keyboard as a docked transformer being closed. The Megatron rom had a switch to disable this feature for the Slider. I'm afraid no one cares to take the time for us since there weren't that many Sliders sold.
Sent from my Slider SL101 using Tapatalk HD
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I also have an ASUS Slider and its too bad there's no development for it.. would very much like to join in on all the JB fun
from what i understand the problem has to do with the lidpatch in the TF101 ROM's
Agreed. The CM 10 Unofficial rom in the dev section mostly works and there is no lidpatch with it. The only major issue is no screen rotation when keyboard is closed. I can live with that.
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You found a build that has a functioning keyboard? what's it called?
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4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935942
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4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935942
4.2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38284209
Tired both. Like the 4.1.2 much better.
Keyboard works on both. Only things that don't work are 1) doesn't wake up from the keyboard 2) the rear camera is inverted.
Which 4.2.2 build did you try? I tried the latest and opening the keyboard shuts off the tablet.
We need a list of ROMs that don't use the lid patch, or a way to remove the lid patch from existing jb ROMs.
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I wonder if tim's katkernel without the lidpatch would work as a fix, try heading over there. SInce I remember him releasing like kernel 95 and kernel 95 lidpatch. So maybe there?
No luck there. I'm back on stock.
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drtweak said:
4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935942
4.2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38284209
Tired both. Like the 4.1.2 much better.
Keyboard works on both. Only things that don't work are 1) doesn't wake up from the keyboard 2) the rear camera is inverted.
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Tried the 4.1.2 CM ROM, found a few things that don't work:
1) Auto rotation doesn't work when keyboard is closed, but it does work when the keyboard is open .
2) As you've already said- the rear camera is inverted and confusing ><
3) Again, as you've already said, it doesn't wake up from the keyboard.
Can't think about another one right now, I flashed my slider back to ICS a month ago so I don't remember much...
I'll try the No-name CM ROM and will report...
For the love of all that slides
DK5 said:
Tried the 4.1.2 CM ROM, found a few things that don't work:
1) Auto rotation doesn't work when keyboard is closed, but it does work when the keyboard is open .
2) As you've already said- the rear camera is inverted and confusing ><
3) Again, as you've already said, it doesn't wake up from the keyboard.
Can't think about another one right now, I flashed my slider back to ICS a month ago so I don't remember much...
I'll try the No-name CM ROM and will report...
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Could someone for the love of God pay a little attention to the slider? Once im on project butter im good. Thats all. Can a DEV just please create a fully functional JB rom for the slider? We all would be insanely grateful.
saintnova said:
Could someone for the love of God pay a little attention to the slider? Once im on project butter im good. Thats all. Can a DEV just please create a fully functional JB rom for the slider? We all would be insanely grateful.
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Visit the links, flash one, report bugs, get a working ROM after things are fixed
*Detection* said:
Visit the links, flash one, report bugs, get a working ROM after things are fixed
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This is my first tab and im preparing to leasrn the flashing and modding etc but i dont think im the troubleshooting Guru at this point so i prefer to leave the testing to you guys that have the deep know how. Sorry but im a relative newbie. I was just trying to find out if there has been any success in the creation of a JB rom for the slider.
Is there really a great difference between ICS and JB? Is it worth the trouble?
NOt sure, but still "We wants it precious"
saintnova said:
This is my first tab and im preparing to leasrn the flashing and modding etc but i dont think im the troubleshooting Guru at this point so i prefer to leave the testing to you guys that have the deep know how. Sorry but im a relative newbie. I was just trying to find out if there has been any success in the creation of a JB rom for the slider.
Is there really a great difference between ICS and JB? Is it worth the trouble?
NOt sure, but still "We wants it precious"
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If you're new to everything, you're better off keeping it as it is for now and doing a lot of reading and talking on the forums, easiest way to turning it into a brick is reading one thread and crossing your fingers
I don't own the slider so not sure which ROMs are available or even the method to flash it, although I can't imagine it being much different to the TF101
I hated ICS but that was mainly down to ASUS and their amazing updates that turned a perfectly good tablet into a useless rebooting crashing POS
Jumping on the JB Custom ROM wagon was the best thing I even did, the TF runs 100x better than the day I got it
The later JB ROMs have a new UI too
Best thing to do, just find a long custom ROM thread and just start reading from the start, you'll be surprised how much you pick up thanks to other peoples issues and questions and replies
*Detection* said:
If you're new to everything, you're better off keeping it as it is for now and doing a lot of reading and talking on the forums, easiest way to turning it into a brick is reading one thread and crossing your fingers
I don't own the slider so not sure which ROMs are available or even the method to flash it, although I can't imagine it being much different to the TF101
I hated ICS but that was mainly down to ASUS and their amazing updates that turned a perfectly good tablet into a useless rebooting crashing POS
Jumping on the JB Custom ROM wagon was the best thing I even did, the TF runs 100x better than the day I got it
The later JB ROMs have a new UI too
Best thing to do, just find a long custom ROM thread and just start reading from the start, you'll be surprised how much you pick up thanks to other peoples issues and questions and replies
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Thanks for that wicked fast response man. Is there any slider ICS rom thats better than the stock? If so, what can one expect? I know u dont own the slider but from your experience?
saintnova said:
Thanks for that wicked fast response man. Is there any slider ICS rom thats better than the stock? If so, what can one expect? I know u dont own the slider but from your experience?
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From a quick look, this guy makes some great custom ROMs, and your SL is included in the supported devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518768
I've flashed a few of his ROMs in the past
The tweaks are in the main post, but in short, they remove the crap and tweak them up for speed and stability, and fix what ASUS failed to fix

[Q] Asus TF300T with Android 4.2.1 extremely slow.

I have been experiencing very slow and poor performance from my Asus TF300T.
I have Android 4.2.1 instsalled in, (stock rom) after recently attempting to install lollipop. I did manage to install lollipop but saw that the it was buggy and kept on crashing so I went back to the stock rom install but it seems its very slow.
I am not really sure what I need to improve it. Most times, I tap on an app-icon and it just sits there or I have to tap multiple times before it opens up. or the tablet will crash and reboot. Its unlocked, and I can install ROMs using adb or through twrp.
My only option is to toss this POS and buy a newer model of something different. My use of it is pretty light, mostly streaming videos & surfing.
Please help.
sc0rp10n79 said:
I have been experiencing very slow and poor performance from my Asus TF300T.
I have Android 4.2.1 instsalled in, (stock rom) after recently attempting to install lollipop. I did manage to install lollipop but saw that the it was buggy and kept on crashing so I went back to the stock rom install but it seems its very slow.
I am not really sure what I need to improve it. Most times, I tap on an app-icon and it just sits there or I have to tap multiple times before it opens up. or the tablet will crash and reboot. Its unlocked, and I can install ROMs using adb or through twrp.
My only option is to toss this POS and buy a newer model of something different. My use of it is pretty light, mostly streaming videos & surfing.
Please help.
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I'm using KatKiss right now and its pretty stable. I don't use this tablet much anymore though, so its not a daily driver for me.
Any 4.4 custom ROM should do well, though I'd still take CM over anything else.
5.x isn't fast, but for my use case it's almost as good as stock, plus it's beautiful and has some extended touchpad gestures I need.
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AndyYan said:
Any 4.4 custom ROM should do well, though I'd still take CM over anything else.
5.x isn't fast, but for my use case it's almost as good as stock, plus it's beautiful and has some extended touchpad gestures I need.
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I did have 4.4 custom ROM installed, which was very slow hence I went back to Stock 4.2, however its gotten worst. I dont even have that many apps installed or running so not really sure what else I can do, other than throwing this POS out of my bedroom window. I dont do much on it other than surfing and watching videos. Are there any lightweight ROMs that are not so heavy resource intensive that I can test and see how they pan out?
Thanks again.
sc0rp10n79 said:
I did have 4.4 custom ROM installed, which was very slow hence I went back to Stock 4.2, however its gotten worst. I dont even have that many apps installed or running so not really sure what else I can do, other than throwing this POS out of my bedroom window. I dont do much on it other than surfing and watching videos. Are there any lightweight ROMs that are not so heavy resource intensive that I can test and see how they pan out?
Thanks again.
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I'd recommend KatKiss 4.4, it runs quite well on my tablet
We don't make mistakes, We just have happy accidents.
UndisputedGuy said:
I'd recommend KatKiss 4.4, it runs quite well on my tablet
We don't make mistakes, We just have happy accidents.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot again, with a clean wipe and see if that helps.

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