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I have been reading these forums for the last few days. I have seen a lot of threads like this but they have not really answered my questions.
I need a stable ROM, where phone, internet, text, gps all work. I am looking for the best battery life. I am also not looking to flash a ton of updates.
I would like to get a jelly bean ROM if one fits my needs. If not then Ice cream. If you guys could recommend a jelly bean and Ice cream rom I would appreciate it.
Thanks again for the help!
PS Kenny if you reading this and you want to make a Jelly Bean Peoples ROM I would love to try it out!
badbeats said:
I have been reading these forums for the last few days. I have seen a lot of threads like this but they have not really answered my questions.
I need a stable ROM, where phone, internet, text, gps all work. I am looking for the best battery life. I am also not looking to flash a ton of updates.
I would like to get a jelly bean ROM if one fits my needs. If not then Ice cream. If you guys could recommend a jelly bean and Ice cream rom I would appreciate it.
Thanks again for the help!
PS Kenny if you reading this and you want to make a Jelly Bean Peoples ROM I would love to try it out!
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For Jellybean No doubt Paranoid Android
For ICS (TouchWiz) Synergy
I guess everyone agrees with you
badbeats said:
I guess everyone agrees with you
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It's just tough to give a meaningful answer to this question because it really depends on how you use your phone and your personal tastes. Best thing to do is try out several ROMs and see what works best for you.
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For ICS: Cleanrom....it removes all the bullcrap/bloatware and doesn't mess with it too much so things work and work well. Dirtytweaks if you want a little more customization
Synergy is good, however still has some bloat in it that I'm surprised has not been removed...still a very good rom thats geared moreso in my opinion for a heavier tweaker as opposed to just needing a steady not messed with too much rom
Beans is another good one and in my opinion the inbetween of clean and synergy
For JB: paranoid or just go with the default official cm10 nightlies though I can't speak much of personal experience with jb
The CM10 Nightlies(Jelly Bean) are/have become stable enough with yesterday's release. Minor GPS problems as in taking a minute to fix(it does fix, just takes longer than normal sometimes) and some FC's in random situations(Swiftkey install, when you go to change settings through it it FC's the settings. Gotta go in directly to the settings) are about it.
All the functionality bugs seem to have been squished out, no more 3s call delay/echo. So far no data drops reported except from dirty flashes. Text works fine even with a SMS(not MMS) quick reply popup if you want it.
It's pretty nice and stable. I recommend trying it out. (first boot is tricky, let it sit at the activation screen until you see all your radios connect then reboot it and you should be good to go)
Thanks guys I appreciate the advice
Sorry forgot one other question
How is the battery life with ICS vs Jelly Bean?
Thank you
Incubus's jellybean port is 100 percent perfect, literally no issues. And a 5889 quadrant score.
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you should spend a week with a CM10 style ROM (i prefer paranoid android as already suggested), and a week with a touchwiz rom.
they are different experiences. you should try them both for sure.
I had the Vibrant and flashed all kinds I'd ROMs with it. Moved to the iPhone 4s and then traded that for my new S3. It was a good choice. So now I'm planning to get started flashing on this phone.
Wanted to know what is the same and what is different from the Vibrant from previous Vibrant users.
What's the best place to start flashing? I'm looking for stability and speed. Preferably more stability than stock cause stock is a little buggy honestly.
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GoodVibrant-ions said:
I had the Vibrant and flashed all kinds I'd ROMs with it. Moved to the iPhone 4s and then traded that for my new S3. It was a good choice. So now I'm planning to get started flashing on this phone.
Wanted to know what is the same and what is different from the Vibrant from previous Vibrant users.
What's the best place to start flashing? I'm looking for stability and speed. Preferably more stability than stock cause stock is a little buggy honestly.
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Please elaborate on what is buggy about stock?
My question was more about everything else I posted besides that statement but to answer the question, I am getting force closes on some apps and occasionally the home screen locks up. That's what I meant by buggy.
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there's a link in my signature that should help you id post it but im on my ipad using tapatalk right now.
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Honestly, the post was more about the Vibrant than anything. I was hoping to see some of the same people and get their experiences on ROMs compared to what we had on the Vibrant.
Like on the Vibrant it went from Android 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 and you constantly had to be aware of what you were flashing. It doesn't seem that way (yet) with the S3 from what I've been reading. Is that the case? At this point everything is compatible and we're able to flash away for the most part?
And I was hoping someone could tell me what's stable and smooth right now. Stock has been touch and go for my device and I haven't done anything to it. I'm looking for a fast non-overclocked kernel matched with a stable daily driver ROM. Any help is appreciated, dickhead comments aren't. This place has turned all elitist. This is the General forums....thought I could get away with a few simple questions with answers based on experiences, after having read through all these threads.
Speaking of which NeverendingXin, I read a lot of that thread yesterday but it seemed to give descriptions of what AOSP vs AOKP vs CM10 vs MIUI. Which I learned a lot from and I appreciate. But I was looking for more advice on specific ROMs. Anyone that could say "This ROM with this kernel has worked for me and I like it's speed" or whatever would do.
You want to find out what's stable and smooth?
Man up and make a backup of your current rom and flash away trying different roms. You'll likely end up getting different responses from different people and it isn't likely you'll have their same experience. Just find out for yourself. The guide the person above directed to you to was made to prevent threads asking what rom is stable or to use.
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GoodVibrant-ions said:
In after the ****
Honestly, the post was more about the Vibrant than anything. I was hoping to see some of the same people and get their experiences on ROMs compared to what we had on the Vibrant.
Like on the Vibrant it went from Android 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 and you constantly had to be aware of what you were flashing. It doesn't seem that way (yet) with the S3 from what I've been reading. Is that the case? At this point everything is compatible and we're able to flash away for the most part?
And I was hoping someone could tell me what's stable and smooth right now. Stock has been touch and go for my device and I haven't done anything to it. I'm looking for a fast non-overclocked kernel matched with a stable daily driver ROM. Any help is appreciated, dickhead comments aren't. This place has turned all elitist. This is the General forums....thought I could get away with a few simple questions with answers based on experiences, after having read through all these threads.
Speaking of which NeverendingXin, I read a lot of that thread yesterday but it seemed to give descriptions of what AOSP vs AOKP vs CM10 vs MIUI. Which I learned a lot from and I appreciate. But I was looking for more advice on specific ROMs. Anyone that could say "This ROM with this kernel has worked for me and I like it's speed" or whatever would do.
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Well in that sense the best information I can give you is that for a touch wiz ics Rom I'd use synergy, I used that for a long time and it was always super stable and smooth for me. If your looking for aosp then I'd use either liquid smooth or slim bean I'm more familiar with liquid and it's really great, but I'm trying out slim bean and it's so far been good as well. I hope this helps
GoodVibrant-ions said:
In after the ****
Honestly, the post was more about the Vibrant than anything. I was hoping to see some of the same people and get their experiences on ROMs compared to what we had on the Vibrant.
Like on the Vibrant it went from Android 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 and you constantly had to be aware of what you were flashing. It doesn't seem that way (yet) with the S3 from what I've been reading. Is that the case? At this point everything is compatible and we're able to flash away for the most part?
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I'm from the Fascinate but I've also worked on the Vibrant.
* You don't have to worry about bml/mtd here. Which means you can flash basically everything without having to odin.
* You do have to worry about the locked bootloader. CASUAL can unlock it. Droidstyle has a sticky thread here on xda to help you with this and many other processes.
* There are excellent stock and AOSP-based ROMS. AOSP-based ROMS aren't quite 100% (but close) on RIL issues though.
*On verizon, radios are typically flashed separately and only in certain circumstances (odin package) included with ROMS.
* You DO have to worry about the IMEI issue. There are numerous threads about backing up this information and a Sticky thread with a tool for recovering it.
* If you are looking for a custom kernel check out Leankernel which is linked to in the signature of the poster above me. note that it's an AOSP kernel. Find the touchwiz version in the same forum.
Something else to bote about unlocking the bootloader, if you are going to use EZ Unlock from the market DON'T!!!! Go to root wiki and download version 1.2. For some reason 1.3 & 1.4 are wonky. The older versions are on the same thread as 1.4.
My vote for a ROM is Paranoid Android, I had some bug issues on Liquid Smooth but on PA I have had none thus far. I would reccomend flashing Paranoid Android version 2.5 instead of 2.51, there seems to be an issue for some users with the latest commits in 2.51 from what I read earlier today.
I'm sure you know how to back up you IMEI but just in case use the terminal method and the synergy flash method.
Just trying to cover most bases, I didn't know what you knew and didn't know.
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GoodVibrant-ions said:
My question was more about everything else I posted besides that statement but to answer the question, I am getting force closes on some apps and occasionally the home screen locks up. That's what I meant by buggy.
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The reason I asked is because stock on the S3 is as stable as you are going to get. The most stable custom Roms are going to be the ones based of stock TW and you can get them with some added tweaks. They are no more stable then stock as stock is stable as a *****. If you are getting force closes and lockups there is probably an issue with what you have installed.
Any AOSP rom will still have bugs and will be the least stable out of all the options. No matter how many people say Liquid or AOKP or CM10 or PA or MIUI is running great, they run no where near as stable and perfect as any TW rom.
If you want stability, go with a TW rom. read the different threads, mostly the last couple of pages of each which are usually about the latest release and you will know what is good and what is not.
This is what I am running and it does not get any more stable then this but then again stock was stable as ***** as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904329
Thanks guys.... this is exactly what I was looking for. As far as backing up the IMEI, I've never had to do that. Not on the Vibrant or My HTC View....so I have some reading to do there. Any tips or links to threads on that would be appreciated.
And I did have to unlock the bootloader on the View, but it's not a process I know a lot about.... so reading to do there as well.
Thanks for the tips guys. Looks like I'm going back to do some more studying.
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A very very good post explaining how to flash recoveries, roms, and just about anything else you ever would need to know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
IMEI Backup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
EZ-Unlock for you bootloader, download version 1.2 it is towards the bottom of the first post:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
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Perfect. Thanks man. I'd seen the first two threads but not the ezunlocker thread. Should be all I need to figure out how to get started and which ROM to try.
Thanks for the help guys
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PaulG1488 said:
You want to find out what's stable and smooth?
Man up and make a backup of your current rom and flash away trying different roms. You'll likely end up getting different responses from different people and it isn't likely you'll have their same experience. Just find out for yourself. The guide the person above directed to you to was made to prevent threads asking what rom is stable or to use.
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I did it this way and spend 2 weeks of hell. Don't recommend this, PLEASE.
Here's my own thoughts, as reliable as the butt dyno installed in my TSX:
CM10: depending on the build it was OK to "omg, I just rebooted why is this running so slow?" I tried this rom twice and gave up. I had installed a nightly from Friday which is what had serious issues. I'd reboot and within 15 minutes everything would be crawling.
ParanoidAndroid: I might accept this if I could opt to have a phone styled settings app. I see no way to get that, and I don't enjoy my settings app on my S3 using a tablet layout. Can this be changed?
AOKP: Wifi didn't work without a kernel, battery life ranged from amazing to terrible (no data on why, I didn't look at my wakelocks) and bluetooth didn't function right - it didn't auto connect to my car.
MIUI: Verdict is out, first flashed it yesterday. First thoughts are that it feels slightly slow, but that might be because I put the governor into dynamic mode. Battery life is looking about on par with paranoid
Liquidsmooth: didn't see any reason to use this over PA or CM, didn't feel much smoother to me (forgetting the nightly build I flashed of CM10, because that was just awful.)
shangrila500 said:
Something else to bote about unlocking the bootloader, if you are going to use EZ Unlock from the market DON'T!!!! Go to root wiki and download version 1.2. For some reason 1.3 & 1.4 are wonky. The older versions are on the same thread as 1.4.
My vote for a ROM is Paranoid Android, I had some bug issues on Liquid Smooth but on PA I have had none thus far. I would reccomend flashing Paranoid Android version 2.5 instead of 2.51, there seems to be an issue for some users with the latest commits in 2.51 from what I read earlier today.
I'm sure you know how to back up you IMEI but just in case use the terminal method and the synergy flash method.
Just trying to cover most bases, I didn't know what you knew and didn't know.
Sent by one of my many Anthromorphic Personifications
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The one on the marketplace worked fine for me? It always says "unknown" but it unlocks. What does LiquidSmooth change from CM10? They don't seem to have many builds.
Can the ParanoidAndroid settings app be made to have a phone layout for settings instead of the double paned layout? If yes, I might give Paranoid a second try.
rampantandroid said:
I did it this way and spend 2 weeks of hell. Don't recommend this, PLEASE.
Here's my own thoughts, as reliable as the butt dyno installed in my TSX:
CM10: depending on the build it was OK to "omg, I just rebooted why is this running so slow?" I tried this rom twice and gave up. I had installed a nightly from Friday which is what had serious issues. I'd reboot and within 15 minutes everything would be crawling.
ParanoidAndroid: I might accept this if I could opt to have a phone styled settings app. I see no way to get that, and I don't enjoy my settings app on my S3 using a tablet layout. Can this be changed?
AOKP: Wifi didn't work without a kernel, battery life ranged from amazing to terrible (no data on why, I didn't look at my wakelocks) and bluetooth didn't function right - it didn't auto connect to my car.
MIUI: Verdict is out, first flashed it yesterday. First thoughts are that it feels slightly slow, but that might be because I put the governor into dynamic mode. Battery life is looking about on par with paranoid
Liquidsmooth: didn't see any reason to use this over PA or CM, didn't feel much smoother to me (forgetting the nightly build I flashed of CM10, because that was just awful.)
The one on the marketplace worked fine for me? It always says "unknown" but it unlocks. What does LiquidSmooth change from CM10? They don't seem to have many builds.
Can the ParanoidAndroid settings app be made to have a phone layout for settings instead of the double paned layout? If yes, I might give Paranoid a second try.
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Well the one in the marketplace may work fine for you but everyone else who has tried version 1.4 has posted so many messages because it didn't truly unlock their phone and gave them a soft brick. The reason it may work for you is because the dev finally fixed it. I just know that there have been numerous threads of people getting soft bricks from version 1.4.
As for Liquid, it is their spin off of CM10. There are a few notable differences but I honestly don't know how to describe them properly, you would just have to flash it and mess with it yourself.
I agree completely about CM10 being buggy as hell, I personally don't care for it but without it we wouldn't have half of the roms we do.
The upside to Liquid, PA, and some of the other offshoots is that the devs over them are busting their ass to get all the kinks worked out, and from my testing they are better than CM10 bug wise. Everyone's phone is different though and something that works for me will not work for someone else. For instance I can successfully over clock my phone to 2.1Ghz where a lot of people can go above 1.7 or 1.9 without losing stability.
As for you question about PA, I thought there was a setting to get rid of the double menu, but I just took a quick look and couldn't find it. I very well may have overlooked it though, as I said it was just a quick look. You could try googling it or asking in the PA thread and seeing if anyone can point you in the right direction.
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shangrila500 said:
Well the one in the marketplace may work fine for you but everyone else who has tried version 1.4 has posted so many messages because it didn't truly unlock their phone and gave them a soft brick. The reason it may work for you is because the dev finally fixed it. I just know that there have been numerous threads of people getting soft bricks from version 1.4.
As for Liquid, it is their spin off of CM10. There are a few notable differences but I honestly don't know how to describe them properly, you would just have to flash it and mess with it yourself.
I agree completely about CM10 being buggy as hell, I personally don't care for it but without it we wouldn't have half of the roms we do.
The upside to Liquid, PA, and some of the other offshoots is that the devs over them are busting their ass to get all the kinks worked out, and from my testing they are better than CM10 bug wise. Everyone's phone is different though and something that works for me will not work for someone else. For instance I can successfully over clock my phone to 2.1Ghz where a lot of people can go above 1.7 or 1.9 without losing stability.
As for you question about PA, I thought there was a setting to get rid of the double menu, but I just took a quick look and couldn't find it. I very well may have overlooked it though, as I said it was just a quick look. You could try googling it or asking in the PA thread and seeing if anyone can point you in the right direction.
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Check the PA thread for the answer - go into PA settings, go to the app settings, find the settings app in there and hit reset. My guess is that it is a bug with the current version of the ROM.
GoodVibrant-ions said:
Perfect. Thanks man. I'd seen the first two threads but not the ezunlocker thread. Should be all I need to figure out how to get started and which ROM to try.
Thanks for the help guys
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shangrila500 said:
Well the one in the marketplace may work fine for you but everyone else who has tried version 1.4 has posted so many messages because it didn't truly unlock their phone and gave them a soft brick. The reason it may work for you is because the dev finally fixed it. I just know that there have been numerous threads of people getting soft bricks from version 1.4.
As for Liquid, it is their spin off of CM10. There are a few notable differences but I honestly don't know how to describe them properly, you would just have to flash it and mess with it yourself.
I agree completely about CM10 being buggy as hell, I personally don't care for it but without it we wouldn't have half of the roms we do.
The upside to Liquid, PA, and some of the other offshoots is that the devs over them are busting their ass to get all the kinks worked out, and from my testing they are better than CM10 bug wise. Everyone's phone is different though and something that works for me will not work for someone else. For instance I can successfully over clock my phone to 2.1Ghz where a lot of people can go above 1.7 or 1.9 without losing stability.
As for you question about PA, I thought there was a setting to get rid of the double menu, but I just took a quick look and couldn't find it. I very well may have overlooked it though, as I said it was just a quick look. You could try googling it or asking in the PA thread and seeing if anyone can point you in the right direction.
Sent by one of my many Anthromorphic Personifications
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rampantandroid said:
I did it this way and spend 2 weeks of hell. Don't recommend this, PLEASE.
Here's my own thoughts, as reliable as the butt dyno installed in my TSX:
CM10: depending on the build it was OK to "omg, I just rebooted why is this running so slow?" I tried this rom twice and gave up. I had installed a nightly from Friday which is what had serious issues. I'd reboot and within 15 minutes everything would be crawling.
ParanoidAndroid: I might accept this if I could opt to have a phone styled settings app. I see no way to get that, and I don't enjoy my settings app on my S3 using a tablet layout. Can this be changed?
AOKP: Wifi didn't work without a kernel, battery life ranged from amazing to terrible (no data on why, I didn't look at my wakelocks) and bluetooth didn't function right - it didn't auto connect to my car.
MIUI: Verdict is out, first flashed it yesterday. First thoughts are that it feels slightly slow, but that might be because I put the governor into dynamic mode. Battery life is looking about on par with paranoid
Liquidsmooth: didn't see any reason to use this over PA or CM, didn't feel much smoother to me (forgetting the nightly build I flashed of CM10, because that was just awful.)
The one on the marketplace worked fine for me? It always says "unknown" but it unlocks. What does LiquidSmooth change from CM10? They don't seem to have many builds.
Can the ParanoidAndroid settings app be made to have a phone layout for settings instead of the double paned layout? If yes, I might give Paranoid a second try.
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So what ROM did you end up using? Any that you'd recommend?
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I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10
What kind of cool things?
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What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.
I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3
Cleanrom zero bugs here.
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.
GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.
Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!
I recently acquired an sgs4g and previously owned a Vibrant. I understand that the sgs4g is specifc on roms, but can't seem to find one that is 100% working. Can someone explain to me what the common issues are and the history/likelyhood of them being fixed?
I understand the following may or not may not work:
GPS (used to this being wonky, assume there are workarounds and it can be made to work)
Notification Lights (just got mine back with Paranoid, really would miss them)
Video Recorder (I am ok with this as a causality, I never use it)
HotSpot (I love this when traveling, it's part of the core functionality of the phone for me. I could get by with a straight tether though).
I ran Paranoid Android on my Vibrant and loved it. It was the reason I chose to stick with my Galaxy and not upgrade to the newest model.
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JB is still in alpha stages, especially if you care about stability and location services.
ICS is mostly working. You will probably need to patch your build.prop for GPS unless you decide to use Ultragen.
GB is fully working.
GPS - Problematic as listed above. Not working on JB, works on ICS with build.prop line added, works on GB.
Notification Lights - Phone doesn't have a notification LED. Sorry.
Video Recorder - Not working on JB, works on ICS/GB.
HotSpot - Not working on JB, works on ICS/GB. May work on JB with third party apps like Barnacle.
The JB bugs above are likely to get fixed if we don't annoy the developers too much and provide useful logs when requested. Other bugs may or may not get fixed depending on how annoying the people requesting them happen to be and whether or not the developers want it themselves.
If your goal is just 100% stability, go with Barebones GB. It's a very nice debloated stock and about as stable as you can get.
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JB is still in alpha stages, especially if you care about stability and location services.
ICS is mostly working. You will probably need to patch your build.prop for GPS unless you decide to use Ultragen.
GB is fully working.
GPS - Problematic as listed above. Not working on JB, works on ICS with build.prop line added, works on GB.
Notification Lights - Phone doesn't have a notification LED. Sorry.
Video Recorder - Not working on JB, works on ICS/GB.
HotSpot - Not working on JB, works on ICS/GB. May work on JB with third party apps like Barnacle.
The JB bugs above are likely to get fixed if we don't annoy the developers too much and provide useful logs when requested. Other bugs may or may not get fixed depending on how annoying the people requesting them happen to be and whether or not the developers want it themselves.
If your goal is just 100% stability, go with Barebones GB. It's a very nice debloated stock and about as stable as you can get.
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I am currently just updating the phone with Kies to GB. I may try the debloated Gb first and maybe ICS after. I ran ICS on my Vibrant, it was great. I have a feeling a lot of the things I liked were aesthetic choices and could be duplicated on GB. (Ex: Home screen, newest gmail widget) provided they are supported in GB.
" Notification Lights - Phone doesn't have a notification LED. Sorry."
Er, I meant the keys at the bottom, they light up on missed calls etc.
Thank you for the input, that's exactly what I needed. Any suggestions on GB and ICS roms (names)? I know it's kind of up to the user ultimately and expect opinions to vary.
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Ah! What you need then is the BLN Control app for BackLight Notifications from the Play Store. And either ICS or GB and a kernel that supports it... most do, just avoid the Proton ICS kernel, as Beastmode doesn't like BLN. Proton may eventually get it, but if that's something on your "want. want. want." list, may as go with a kernel that supports it now.
Alternatively, the NoLED app will give you an on-screen notification that's configurable and works without any kernel modification needed.
GB Roms to try: Barebones. Valhalla. Valhalla Black.
Barebones is very similar to stock. Minimal skinning, everything just works, and it's a slim/sleek ROM as well. The one I generally suggest for people starting out.
Valhalla is the beautifully tweaked ROM that many GB people still love as their daily driver. It's farther off of stock, but does work very well.
Valhalla Black is a further-tweaked Valhalla. Some parts may be more difficult to see, but in general if you like the look, it's great.
For ICS: AOKP, Slim, HebMIUI, Fah-Q CM9.
AOKP is my general fav ICS ROM. It's highly configurable, and I love the laziness of weather on my security screen without needing an additional lock screen.
SlimICS is a slightly-more configurable CyanogenMod that takes less space. What's not to love?
HebMIUI is great if you're a fan of MIUI ROMs. Since it's MIUI, not CM based, you'll need to do a full wipe between installing it and any of the other 3 I suggested, but it's one of the most updated ROMs for our phone.
Fah-Q CM9 is good if you're a fan of straight CyanogenMod, put out by this month's current active development team. The caveat here is that since it uses the Protean kernel (and HebMIUI might as well), there's no BLN control.
Personally, my daily driver with GB wandered between Barebones and Valhalla Black. For ICS, it always came back to AOKP. Right now, I've been running PACman JB for the last week or so as it implements portions of Paranoid Android/AOKP/CyanogenMod, but the lack of GPS in JB continually brings the ICS AOKP siren song back to my ears.We'll see where I fall back, but...
I do hate bln but the reason I disabled bln was because when I fixed the lights issues for the capacitive keys I eliminated any bln crap lol I might work on putting it back this week but not sure for now it doesn't work but then again the kernel fixes deep sleep and battery life so...
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I recommed you to Heimdall one click and then put Barebone ROM. It will already give you a debloated rooted stock.
Leave Kies aside, waste of time.
So I finally rooted this phone, and I have ODIN and I also have this HEIMDALL along with an abundant amount of other files Ive been suggested to download yet I cant seem to change the rom still. I am on 2.2.1 any ideas suggestions or guidance would be helpful.
Odin and heimdall drivers may clash. I would uninstall all drivers (&kies) and stick with the heimdall if you're already having issues. Link in post above yours is good place to start.
Pc or Mac?
Find lumin30 or bhuvden one click guides. Follow and you shouldn't have any trouble.
Thanks for all the advice. It's exactly what I was looking for.
I am going to go with AOKP for now. I have been using GB with the heimdall kernel and it's the little things I miss, (like the ICS dialer, lock screen and status bar). I have tried to use alternatives like hololock etc and it just doesn't feel the same.
Cheers! Thanks for being a great community.
Ultragen is my fav ICS rom
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atlantiatech said:
Thanks for all the advice. It's exactly what I was looking for.
I am going to go with AOKP for now. I have been using GB with the heimdall kernel and it's the little things I miss, (like the ICS dialer, lock screen and status bar). I have tried to use alternatives like hololock etc and it just doesn't feel the same.
Cheers! Thanks for being a great community.
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I have been running AOKP on both my SGS4G as well as my wife's for 3 weeks now, and my phone is the most stable it has ever been. Very snappy and not a single crash. I did, as the poster references above, tweak my GPS file in my build.prop (it has been working great, much better than stock) and I would also recommend updating the modem on your phone to the LB6 padded modem. If you want an easy way to tweak your GPS, as well as install the AMR-WB codec for HD Voice, install Pimp my Rom from the Play Store. My wife likes it, and she is the first to complain about a slow phone or constant reboots. Was like getting a brand new phone. Team Acid did a bang up job. Great work.
Been using Cyanogenmod for a week now. Very dissapointed in the fact that my bluetooth audio sounds like AM radio. Also I get extremely bad echo during calls. Tried CM10 and 10.1. Both have the bluetooh issues.
Sure its a little bit faster. But, I rooted and installed a custom rom in hopes to IMPROVE me phone experience and I got just to opposite.
I'm considering going back to the rooted stock rom but I can't seem to find the link to the original latest verizon rooted rom. I didn't make a backup. Can anybody help me locating it?
On another note, I'm willing to try another custom rom if someone can vouch for it and ensure that there are no major bugs like CM10.
Should've bought an iPhone o_o but really the developers spend there personal time making these roms not for money but for us and themselves so if you're "disappointed" in them then make your own or try others, read threads and find out bugs before you flash.
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Been using Cyanogenmod for a week now. Very dissapointed in the fact that my bluetooth audio sounds like AM radio. Also I get extremely bad echo during calls. Tried CM10 and 10.1. Both have the bluetooh issues.
Sure its a little bit faster. But, I rooted and installed a custom rom in hopes to IMPROVE me phone experience and I got just to opposite.
I'm considering going back to the rooted stock rom but I can't seem to find the link to the original latest verizon rooted rom. I didn't make a backup. Can anybody help me locating it?
On another note, I'm willing to try another custom rom if someone can vouch for it and ensure that there are no major bugs like CM10.
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Don't use bluetooth so can really comment about it, however there are some great touchwiz roms in the Android Development section I stay away from the Original Android Development just because I have found too many issues.
As for some suggestions Synergy is pretty cutting edge though you may have to play with voltages if you install ziggy's kernal. Clean rom is another nice option. Hyperdrive and Delta have also run solid for me. Currently running Beans 12 and it is almost everything I can ask for, if a 5x6 launcher were included it would be perfection for me.
I would say to install twrp as your recovery, if you haven't done so, and install a rom and run it for a few days and see how it handles. Make a backup, twrp lets you rename them so you can easily restore to your favorite rom, and install something else for a few days. Also you may want to try different kernels as well, KT runs good for me but there are many more to choose from.
Finally just remember that each user runs different apps and has different needs and that while we all hqve the same phone minor variatikns n hardaware and just the way the rom flashes can have different effects such as bluetooth audio interferance or poor battery life or app abc will not work for one person but another has none of tjese problems.
Good luck and just remember that the perfect rom is out there waiting for you. You just need to flash like a madman until you find it.
Check out mastamoon's CM 10.1 rom. His latest 2-28 rom is near perfect. BT audio sounds great, signal handoff isn't as good as TW, but it's good enough as a daily driver. I've had little problems with it, to the point i don't even notice it. Try that and your mind will change.
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Been using Cyanogenmod for a week now. Very dissapointed in the fact that my bluetooth audio sounds like AM radio. Also I get extremely bad echo during calls. Tried CM10 and 10.1. Both have the bluetooh issues.
Sure its a little bit faster. But, I rooted and installed a custom rom in hopes to IMPROVE me phone experience and I got just to opposite.
I'm considering going back to the rooted stock rom but I can't seem to find the link to the original latest verizon rooted rom. I didn't make a backup. Can anybody help me locating it?
On another note, I'm willing to try another custom rom if someone can vouch for it and ensure that there are no major bugs like CM10.
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A. If you have issues with a ROM either post in the ROMs thread or in the Q&A section. Not start a thread in General bashing a ROM developers spent countless hours on. Just a respect thing.
B. Go to original development look for yourself, see what has features you like.
At this point, my phone is just one big tweak.
I'm sorry you're getting echo in calls and problems with BT. Would probably be solvable if you had asked since echo has been fixed for a long time.
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That's funny because i've been using AOSP for a few months now and its made my phone a thousand times better.
Neverendingxsin said:
That's funny because i've been using AOSP for a few months now and its made my phone a thousand times better.
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I'm running the same ROM and absolutely love it. The only thing that's missing is multiview. Other than that it's near perfect.
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responses are laughable
I think its funny, this guy has a valid complaint about how CM 10 is making his Bluetooth sound bad, and weather it's true or not, members just bash the $hit out of him, lol.
To the OP, if you don't like the ROM or something is glitchy, I've done two things in the past when I've experienced this.
1. make a backup (I use my backup root), and then boot into recovery, wipe (cache, davlik, system, and Format), then reflash your ROM.. OR
2. Find a new ROM and try that out. Currently I'm running the latest CleanRom with Morphology 1.5, and Ac!d audio..I have no issues with sound or bluetooth.
I hope that helps man, good luck and remember. Keep Calm and Flash Roms.
There are at least two threads where a total noob can seek help to fix the two issues he has, and one more where he can read how to fix his issues. Perhaps there are better ways to address his concerns?
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1Dirty_Mike said:
I think its funny, this guy has a valid complaint about how CM 10 is making his Bluetooth sound bad, and weather it's true or not, members just bash the $hit out of him, lol.
To the OP, if you don't like the ROM or something is glitchy, I've done two things in the past when I've experienced this.
1. make a backup (I use my backup root), and then boot into recovery, wipe (cache, davlik, system, and Format), then reflash your ROM.. OR
2. Find a new ROM and try that out. Currently I'm running the latest CleanRom with Morphology 1.5, and Ac!d audio..I have no issues with sound or bluetooth.
I hope that helps man, good luck and remember. Keep Calm and Flash Roms.
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It really isn't a valid complaint. See below.
Restola said:
I'm sorry you're getting echo in calls and problems with BT. Would probably be solvable if you had asked since echo has been fixed for a long time.
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Plus, it's free. Beggars can't be choosers. Please don't condone his actions - he came across as very rude and ungrateful, whether intentional or not. You shouldn't complain when people give you free stuff. Period.
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That's funny because i've been using AOSP for a few months now and its made my phone a thousand times better.
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Couldn't agree more Sir.
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To the OP I say I hope you find a solution to your problem. Keep flashing and find what you need brother. To everyone else I am pretty new to this particular medium (xda forums) but looking at almost every topic I've seen I gather one very singular feeling. Please xda take away the "post new topic" option. Its pretty obvious that every single question that can possibly be asked has already been answered. So why ask any question. They are apparently evil and the world wide web has only limited space so lets please not clog it by asking a question twice *gasp*. There is a section for every device and build for developers only that by all means should be kept as streamlined and clutter free as possible but in general forum questions should not be so vehemently discouraged.
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I am also disappointed in the CM rom's performance...but I think the blame (for my issues, at least) resides totally with Samsung.
The rom itself works great, but when you're in the middle of a town and everyone else in the restaurant has 4g and you've only got 1x (not even 3g)...well...that's an issue.
Wish they would release the friggin RIL so I could just stick with a 4.2 rom. Grrrr!
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I don't know if this is the right place to post this or not. I recently had to return my phone to stock because my phone needed to be re provisioned to activate it again. This happens when you flash multiple roms apparently. I got my phone working and commenced to do everything to flash back to CM 10.1. I noticed I can make calls however, my 3g data will not come up. So, I have flashed back to stock and everything works fine. Anyone know of a tip that might resolve this issue. I was using the nightly from yesterday.
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I am also disappointed in the CM rom's performance...but I think the blame (for my issues, at least) resides totally with Samsung.
The rom itself works great, but when you're in the middle of a town and everyone else in the restaurant has 4g and you've only got 1x (not even 3g)...well...that's an issue.
Wish they would release the friggin RIL so I could just stick with a 4.2 rom. Grrrr!
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Me too, my only real issues with CM (or any non-TW ROM) stem from the fact that the radio interface has not been released by Samsung and therefore the reverse-engineered AOSP RIL will probably never be as good as stock. It's not limited to signal strength issues, you also can't take full advantage of the phone's World Phone capabilities with a non-Touchwiz ROM. Unfortunately for me, that's a deal-breaker, my phone needs to work as a phone first and foremost and if Touchwiz ROMs have a better and more functional radio, I have to stick with that.
I have been using the latest nightlies of Cm and they have been running great. phone works great except in some areas where I can't get a signal with TW roms either.
I had CM running on my Dinc2. Since getting the S3, I've been running CleanROM with mods. (when I was on CR5.6 I was using KindaCrap Mods and now that I'm on CR 6.0 I"m using Andy Bones' AOSP Theme, which gives it a lot of the feel of CM).