hi as the title says i was just wondering if someone is or plans to work on a crack for the verizon version of the razr hd... i plan on getting one tomorrow but it would seem the developer version is only available without a plan and i just started one. if theres any alternative let me know please and thank you
If you can afford it just buy the Dev. You can just switch it over to your current plan.
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yea thats exactly it i can't afford it =( o well thanks though
Other than that then Verizon has no plans to let their normal HD be unlocked. Maybe the devs can come up with something?
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can it be cracked? Definitely, just look at the Galaxy S3. But will enough developers get on the Razr HD to make it happen? That idk. I don't remember the first Razr getting cracked but rather kexec releases which still brings custom roms. I think that is a great possibility
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can it be cracked? Definitely, just look at the Galaxy S3. But will enough developers get on the Razr HD to make it happen? That idk. I don't remember the first Razr getting cracked but rather kexec releases which still brings custom roms. I think that is a great possibility
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Samsung bootloaders vs Motorola's big difference... kexec still doesn't fully work on the old RAZR
And they are coming out with more and more snooping software
Its not looking good for a unlocked boot loader on Verizon... sucks cause I'm in that boat...and I hated that with the RAZR
We need some killer devs bottom line
This phone is sick I'm surprised more people are not here yet
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This phone is sick I'm surprised more people are not here yet
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The phone just came to market about a week and a half ago, and isn't cheap. Patience is a virtue I'm sure it will happen, this phone is mad ridiculous. Haven't even rooted it yet and loving everything about it.
I'm sorry if this has been posted somewhere else on this forum, but I couldn't find it anywhere.
djrbliss has supposedly found an exploit to unlock the bootloader on most current Motorola phones, including possibly the XT926 as some people in the thread have claimed. Here's the link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32888705#post32888705
Can anyone else back up this information? I'd have thought this would have made a bigger deal here, since the biggest downside of my RAZR MAXX HD, in my opinion, is the locked bootloader.
Does the motofail2go unlock the bootloader, or just root the phone? I was under the impression that the two were completely different beasts...
Yea I was under the impression that is the root exploit. He mentioned unlocked bootloader because you don't need an exploit to root those.
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Yea I was under the impression that is the root exploit. He mentioned unlocked bootloader because you don't need an exploit to root those.
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Ah, I see. I saw it linked from another article somewhere saying that it was a bootloader unlock. I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the thread itself after i saw the words unlocked bootloader in the OP. Sorry about that.
bootloader unlock
Recently went out and picked up a moto razr maxx hd only to find that moto is no allowing US models to be unlocked through their site. I went through all of the steps to get the device id: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b only to find out I cant unlock because my phone was purchased in the US:
HOW DO I TELL IF MY DEVICE HAS AN UNLOCKABLE/RE-LOCKABLE BOOTLOADER?
This depends on a few factors. First is whether the device ships with a bootloader that is capable of being unlocked or re-locked. Second is whether the wireless carrier that sells the device allows the bootloader to be unlocked, as each of our operator partners has their own policy. As new devices are released, please check the bootloader introduction page. You will be able to check whether your device shipped with an unlockable bootloader. We will be adding devices to this list regularly.
As of August 2012, the only Motorola devices which can be unlocked are:
Photon Q 4G LTE (Sprint)
RAZR Developer Edition (Europe Only)
XOOM
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...ICE_HAS_AN_UNLOCKABLE/RE-LOCKABLE_BOOTLOADER?
Heres to hoping things get sorted, I'll gladly donate to whomever can do it effectively...
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Wasn't it only done through a leaked build of upcoming gingerbread update for Atrix though? Not really applicable for us, is it?
Atrix sales suck. Xoom sales suck. Nobody believes Motorola will unlock anything. Motorola can't afford Bionic sales to suck, but plans to release it with a locked bootloader, anyway. Minimal effort to get the blogosphere on your side: leak bootloader. Unlock other devices? Won't bother.
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Atrix sales suck. Xoom sales suck. Nobody believes Motorola will unlock anything. Motorola can't afford Bionic sales to suck, but plans to release it with a locked bootloader, anyway. Minimal effort to get the blogosphere on your side: leak bootloader. Unlock other devices? Won't bother.
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1 The Xoom-bootloader is already unlocked.
2 The Atrix-bootloader is leaked here. Motorola would've unlocked it with the 2.3-upgrade. And if you don't believe me, ask the devs who found it. They'll tell you they would.
And Xoom-sales suck? There is too much demand for the Xoom here in The Netherlands. All store are out of stock at the moment and still a lot of people want it.
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1 The Xoom-bootloader is already unlocked.
2 The Atrix-bootloader is leaked here. Motorola would've unlocked it with the 2.3-upgrade. And if you don't believe me, ask the devs who found it. They'll tell you they would.
And Xoom-sales suck? There is too much demand for the Xoom here in The Netherlands. All store are out of stock at the moment and still a lot of people want it.
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From what I've read, Xoom is only unlocked in the US. Xoom sales sucking was widely reported when Motorola Mobility released their financials. I'm sorry supply is low in your neck of the woods.
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Wasn't it only done through a leaked build of upcoming gingerbread update for Atrix though? Not really applicable for us, is it?
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No... not really.
But i though that it was news worthy... since this applies to all Motorola products, being unlocked or not i mean.
The Atrix's bootloader was shipped locked and now will be unlocked so if the XT720 was shipped locked... there is still a chance right?> just my 2 centsed
../.;
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Wasn't it only done through a leaked build of upcoming gingerbread update for Atrix though? Not really applicable for us, is it?
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hellmonger said:
No... not really.
But i though that it was news worthy... since this applies to all Motorola products, being unlocked or not i mean.
The Atrix's bootloader was shipped locked and now will be unlocked so if the XT720 was shipped locked... there is still a chance right?> just my 2 centsed
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I thought I read that it came from a leak of a Motorola GB release too. I don't think anyone has cracked the bootloader yet.
Motorola Mark on getsatisfaction found a polite way to convey that unlocking XT720 has a snowball's chance in hell. But he also doesn't know anything about Cincinnati Bell's upgrade. Which means one of two things...
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I thought I read that it came from a leak of a Motorola GB release too. I don't think anyone has cracked the bootloader yet.
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yeah it's a leak...
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Motorola_Atrix
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Motorola Mark on getsatisfaction found a polite way to convey that unlocking XT720 has a snowball's chance in hell. But he also doesn't know anything about Cincinnati Bell's upgrade. Which means one of two things...
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Sounds like we're screwed....
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From what I've read, Xoom is only unlocked in the US. Xoom sales sucking was widely reported when Motorola Mobility released their financials. I'm sorry supply is low in your neck of the woods.
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Xoom is unlocked on all versions. Just need to do the fastboot oem unlock thing.
I'd argue that Motorola's android sales aren't horrendous, if you just consider the number of Vzn droid devices in the states.
true news? if its true would be damn great!!
All I know is that according to disgruntled Xoom users on reddit in the continuous "where the hell is SD card support?!?!" posts, Google handles Xoom's software in the US (and has not released SD card support) but the US version has fastboot oem unlock and that Xoom software on at least some non-US versions is handled by Motorola (which has released SD card support outside the US) but these devices lack fastboot oem unlock.
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@Mioze7Ae: I have a Xoom 3G myself. The Dutch one, so European. And I can confirm that the bootloader is unlockable here via fastboot oem unlock.
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I thought I read that it came from a leak of a Motorola GB release too. I don't think anyone has cracked the bootloader yet.
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A Motorola GB-release for the Atrix leaked. The release contained the unlockable bootloader-thing. So yeah, it's cracked as the devs now have control over that leaked upgrade which unlocks the bootloader.
http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2011/06/28/motorola-mobility-slumps-anew-after-analyst-downgrade/
It's kind of satisfying seeing Motorola take hits like this. Makes me wonder how they ever thought the idea of making phones and then ditching the people who bought it was a good idea. Their lack of updates and locked phones has certainly got them into this mess.
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http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2011/06/28/motorola-mobility-slumps-anew-after-analyst-downgrade/
it's kind of satisfying seeing motorola take hits like this. Makes me wonder how they ever thought the idea of making phones and then ditching the people who bought it was a good idea. Their lack of updates and locked phones has certainly got them into this mess.
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yes!!! F#%$ you moto!!!!
With the recent announcement that HTC will be unlocking bootloaders on new devices via OTA releases in the "near" future, I find it odd that there wasn't a Verizon phone in the lineup. Especially since Verizon claimed that it was a manufacture issue, not one from the carrier. Is anyone privy to info that could ultimately reveal what the official stance and relation is?
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With the recent announcement that HTC will be unlocking bootloaders on new devices via OTA releases in the "near" future, I find it odd that there wasn't a Verizon phone in the lineup. Especially since Verizon claimed that it was a manufacture issue, not one from the carrier. Is anyone privy to info that could ultimately reveal what the official stance and relation is?
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I don't think HTC will unlock bootloaders at all, I think they gonna make unlockable bootloaders which is a different thing.
To the topic who know we'll know more when the photon 4G comes to Sprint since it sounds like the bionicand if the bootloader is unlockable then is most likely the Verizon doesn't like unlockable bootloaders
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I don't think HTC will unlock bootloaders at all, I think they gonna make unlockable bootloaders which is a different thing.
To the topic who know we'll know more when the photon 4G comes to Sprint since it sounds like the bionicand if the bootloader is unlockable then is most likely the Verizon doesn't like unlockable bootloaders
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Sorry for my wording. Unlockable is of course what I meant.
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With the recent announcement that HTC will be unlocking bootloaders on new devices via OTA releases in the "near" future, I find it odd that there wasn't a Verizon phone in the lineup. Especially since Verizon claimed that it was a manufacture issue, not one from the carrier. Is anyone privy to info that could ultimately reveal what the official stance and relation is?
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HTC said that the unlocking of bootloaders will ultimately be in the wireless carrier's hands as far as the final say so. Verizon does not have a good track record for being community friendly.
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HTC said that the unlocking of bootloaders will ultimately be in the wireless carrier's hands as far as the final say so. Verizon does not have a good track record for being community friendly.
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Because not caring about people rooting is very anti-community..
What phones were you expecting them to unlock? The ones that have bootloaders that have already been bypassed? lol
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HTC said that the unlocking of bootloaders will ultimately be in the wireless carrier's hands as far as the final say so. Verizon does not have a good track record for being community friendly.
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This.
Expect to have to continue unlocking bootloaders the hard way. At least HTC phones are relatively easy to crack. Now Motorola... my old Droid X is still not fully unlocked and likely never will be. Oh well, so happy I got my Thunderbolt. It's been one hell of a device. Even if HTC cannot fully uphold their claim to having unlockable bootloaders, I still prefer them because so far it seems most of the time they CAN be unlocked, eventually. That's reason enough for me to choose them over M anyday. Not to mention their build quality just feels nice.
Yeah, Verizon hasn't been very community-friendly. But that doesn't explain why certain LG and Samsung devices have launched without any sort of bootloader lockdowns.
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Yeah, Verizon hasn't been very community-friendly. But that doesn't explain why certain LG and Samsung devices have launched without any sort of bootloader lockdowns.
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As far as I know, every Android phone has a locked bootloader. I may be mistaken though.
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Not to mention the fact one of the Grand Poobahs at Motorola came right out and said if you want an unlocked phone don't bother with the Bionic.
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This.
Expect to have to continue unlocking bootloaders the hard way. At least HTC phones are relatively easy to crack. Now Motorola... my old Droid X is still not fully unlocked and likely never will be. Oh well, so happy I got my Thunderbolt. It's been one hell of a device. Even if HTC cannot fully uphold their claim to having unlockable bootloaders, I still prefer them because so far it seems most of the time they CAN be unlocked, eventually. That's reason enough for me to choose them over M anyday. Not to mention their build quality just feels nice.
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This is why I am done with Motorola.
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With the recent announcement that HTC will be unlocking bootloaders on new devices via OTA releases in the "near" future, I find it odd that there wasn't a Verizon phone in the lineup. Especially since Verizon claimed that it was a manufacture issue, not one from the carrier. Is anyone privy to info that could ultimately reveal what the official stance and relation is?
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Verizon lie? NEVER!
I honestly believe that HTC, Motorola, etc. don't give a ****e about locking bootloaders. Blame the carriers.
This **** is RIDICULOUS.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-headed-to-europe-with-a-u-s-version-to-come/
Never again will I buy a Moto phone.
"Unlocked bootloaders by the end of '11!"
"Here's a new expensive device you can buy to get an unlocked bootloader! Take that original RAZR owners, and the rest of the Motorola community! Hahahaha."
I don't know what to say.
Calundle said:
This **** is RIDICULOUS.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-headed-to-europe-with-a-u-s-version-to-come/
Never again will I buy a Moto phone.
"Unlocked bootloaders by the end of '11!"
"Here's a new expensive device you can buy to get an unlocked bootloader! Take that original RAZR owners, and the rest of the Motorola community! Hahahaha."
I don't know what to say.
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I agree, the way that Motorola has been treating it's customers has been truly ridculous. They have (or so it seems) practically abandoned the Atrix 2 which is a relativity new phone, and their only major phone on AT&T.
Not to say that I regret buying the Atrix 2, it's a great phone, but it's safe to say that unless Motorola majorly revamps their customer service/relations I'll never be buying another phone from them.
I love my A2. They make brilliant devices, but as you said the way they are treating their loyal customers is unacceptable.
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That is fine just look at the bright side ^_^ once they release those unlocked devices our devs can simply port it over to locked counter part ^_^v can't wait they should release it we can buy, dump and return hehehe.
Just a clarification: If they release an Atrix 2 developers edition...
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That is fine just look at the bright side ^_^ once they release those unlocked devices our devs can simply port it over to locked counter part ^_^v can't wait they should release it we can buy, dump and return hehehe.
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Sadly it doesn't work that way... our Atrix 2's are encrypted with a different key than the Development Razr's... we can't just "port" it, otherwise we would have done so with the Bionic.
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Sadly it doesn't work that way... our Atrix 2's are encrypted with a different key than the Development Razr's... we can't just "port" it, otherwise we would have done so with the Bionic.
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I was just about to post this/ask a question on it.
Just remember reading somewhere (possibly here) that the dev edition phones use different hardware/software??
Im saying if they release a developer edition of atrix 2 not the razr one
I currently have a Verizon Galaxy S4 and all in all i'm happy with it but there's one HUGE fault for me. The bootloader isn't unlockable. I'm the type of person who really loves customization and well you can see why this is a problem for me. What would be another option similar in specs that would have an unlockable bootloader + root methods available?
The phone i currently want would be an HTC One or HTC One (M8), but i'm not sure as to if it's bootloader is unlockable so if someone who knows could tell me i'd be grateful. (I would Google it but it's 3:30 am in the morning and i can't think straight enough to think of what to Google )
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I currently have a Verizon Galaxy S4 and all in all i'm happy with it but there's one HUGE fault for me. The bootloader isn't unlockable. I'm the type of person who really loves customization and well you can see why this is a problem for me. What would be another option similar in specs that would have an unlockable bootloader + root methods available?
The phone i currently want would be an HTC One or HTC One (M8), but i'm not sure as to if it's bootloader is unlockable so if someone who knows could tell me i'd be grateful. (I would Google it but it's 3:30 am in the morning and i can't think straight enough to think of what to Google )
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Nexus 5! No more problems with bootloaders, knox or risk of bricking
HTC One M8 Developer Editions will have an unlocked bootloader I guess...
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I wish
sharkware said:
Nexus 5! No more problems with bootloaders, knox or risk of bricking
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I had my eyes set on that a week ago and was going to get one until I came across stuff about it being incompatible with Verizon so I dropped it and found another. Was I wrong and it'll work with them?
Ya
Ferris Cruiser said:
HTC One M8 Developer Editions will have an unlocked bootloader I guess...
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Yeah well I'm going with a contract phone because at the moment I don't have $700 to blow on Smartphones
I wish though
This KK upgrade for the RAZR MAXX HD has got me thinking about its replacement. I took one too many OTAs without unlocking the bootloader and that's made every update a game of restore-the-root. I really love this phone, but I'm getting tired of that.
I've noticed that a lot of posters in the threads I read have other phones, so I'm asking for a recommendation. If you bought a phone today, either a developer's edition or at least with an unlockable bootloader, what would you buy? And why?
I'm on Verizon and I'm not ready to change carriers, so that has to be considered.
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This KK upgrade for the RAZR MAXX HD has got me thinking about its replacement. I took one too many OTAs without unlocking the bootloader and that's made every update a game of restore-the-root. I really love this phone, but I'm getting tired of that.
I've noticed that a lot of posters in the threads I read have other phones, so I'm asking for a recommendation. If you bought a phone today, either a developer's edition or at least with an unlockable bootloader, what would you buy? And why?
I'm on Verizon and I'm not ready to change carriers, so that has to be considered.
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Well, your best bet is to find the Droid RAZR HD Developer Edition which has a bootloader that you can lock and unlock. Those you have to purchase full price ($599) because Verizon won't subsidize that phone.
BTW, there is no MAXX Dev Edition, so if you're coming from a MAXX, it means you will only have 16gb of internal storage as opposed to the MAXX's 32gb of storage as well as a smaller battery, but the RAZR HD battery life is nothing to sneeze at. It's pretty darned good.
To try and find a non-dev edition of the Droid RAZR HD/MAXX HD that can still be unlocked is going to be tough, unless you can find someone selling you one that has it unlocked already, but you better research and get proof before shelling out the money. You could try and get one that isn't unlocked and hope beyond hope that it unlocks, but most have now had the update to fix the exploit applied at the factory.
And just because someone is selling you a used one that purports to have the correct version that allows unlocking doesn't mean it will. The phone could have had the exploit patch applied and then flashed back to the previous version to make it appear to be the version you can unlock. But it won't unlock anymore because the exploit that allowed unlocking was present on one of the protected areas of the phone. Once it's patched, you cannot make it go back to a previous version.
My RAZR HD replaced a RAZR MAXX that had a swelling battery. Verizon did a warranty swap and since they no longer stocked the RAZR MAXX (XT912), they replaced it with the RAZR HD. I discovered that mine had a version (which at the time they were releasing with the later version with the exploit patched) that could possibly be still unlocked. I did what SamuriHL told me to and lo and behold, I had an unlocked bootloader. I got very lucky indeed.
I would say your best bet is to find a Dev Edition to buy if you don't mind downgrading from a MAXX HD. Otherwise, research well and find a MAXX HD non-dev edition that has it's bootloader already unlocked. But, those will probably be sold at a higher price.
HTC One (M8) - Well built phone, great specs, 2 year support, s-off, nothing more needs to be said.
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HTC One (M8) - Well built phone, great specs, 2 year support, s-off, nothing more needs to be said.
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Except the developer edition is not available on Verizon and I'm not ready to move to another carrier. Does the carrier version have an unlockable bootloader?
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Except the developer edition is not available on Verizon and I'm not ready to move to another carrier. Does the carrier version have an unlockable bootloader?
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Yes, Firewater (S-off) and WeakSauce (Root)