I just got a warrantied out replacement phone and want to restore a previously saved nandroid backup. I noticed TWRP on the new phone doesn't default to the previous backup folder and backs up to a new folder. Can I re-store a nandroid from a different phone to my new one? Or is this going to cause problems?
jd1639 said:
I just got a warrantied out replacement phone and want to restore a previously saved nandroid backup. I noticed TWRP on the new phone doesn't default to the previous backup folder and backs up to a new folder. Can I re-store a nandroid from a different phone to my new one? Or is this going to cause problems?
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It should work fine.
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To play it safe, you may be better off installing everything from scratch. jiggity janx said this on the SGS3 "I thought I read somewhere recently that because backups capture phone specific data on Samsung models that you are unable to move a backup from one phone to another without overwriting some valuable individual phone information". Besides, the location of the folder would make a difference also.
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It should work fine.
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Yeah, I wouldn't do that though. I would start fresh.
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Thanks everyone. I did restore the nandroid without any issues. I would have started from scratch but I had a Corp email account which is secured and I didn't want to try and reset it up as I would have had to give a reason I was doing it and didn't want to admit I bricked the phone.
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I have not backed up anything on the phone. So what do I back up before installing the ROM. I would love to keep my apps.
Please give me details, Ive never done this before so I need it broken down in n00b terms.....Thanks!
emeralds5668 said:
I have not backed up anything on the phone. So what do I back up before installing the ROM. I would love to keep my apps.
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Install titanium backup, its free. But when you go to restore what you backed up make sure you only restore the apps and nothing else.
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emeralds5668 said:
I have not backed up anything on the phone. So what do I back up before installing the ROM. I would love to keep my apps.
Please give me details, Ive never done this before so I need it broken down in n00b terms.....Thanks!
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are you rooted?
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bigbadwolf311 said:
Install titanium backup, its free. But when you go to restore what you backed up make sure you only restore the apps and nothing else.
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Ok so it doesnt matter really what I back up as long as I do not restore anything but missing apps?
emeralds5668 said:
Ok so it doesnt matter really what I back up as long as I do not restore anything but missing apps?
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yeah. Back up apps us system data but when restoring just restore the apps. If you restore system data it may cause problems with new rom.
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bigbadwolf311 said:
yeah. Back up apps us system data but when restoring just restore the apps. If you restore system data it may cause problems with new rom.
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Thank you!
I recommend also using the following two apps:
Call Logs Backup and Restore
SMS Backup and Restore
Both are by the same person - Ritesh Sahu I think?
I assume you have your contacts synced to your Google account - if not you probably should back up contacts somehow. Not sure - I've always just been synced to Google.
Entropy512 said:
I recommend also using the following two apps:
Call Logs Backup and Restore
SMS Backup and Restore
Both are by the same person - Ritesh Sahu I think?
I assume you have your contacts synced to your Google account - if not you probably should back up contacts somehow. Not sure - I've always just been synced to Google.
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I think they are synced, I know the contacts are on the sd card too. I am such a n00b at this, I have never had a smartphone. So its all new to me. Ive had this one for just over a week, so I dont even know what my phone can do. I am pretty impressed so far.....its like having a small laptop in my hand.
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I think they are synced, I know the contacts are on the sd card too. I am such a n00b at this, I have never had a smartphone. So its all new to me. Ive had this one for just over a week, so I dont even know what my phone can do. I am pretty impressed so far.....its like having a small laptop in my hand.
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It's all good man, I've been in your boat before.
I'd also make a nandroid backup (in recovery). It's not hard to install anything, but if you ever want to go back, it makes things easier.
Does back up recover everything. Like a clock work recovery. New phone with old SIM and old memory card. What will restore? Will give me back all my apps or is that on the USB of old phone? Can I even use clock work with new phone? Or must it be unlocked?
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When I have done a nandroid restore I usually get all the apps that were there when I backed it up. It also saves the user settings for the apps and anything the way you customized it (like wallpaper, widgets, launcher, etc.). It doesn't affect internal or external sd card.
You need to have CWM in the first place to restore the backup though. And I don't know about using a backup from another phone...especially if its not the same model.
In order to restore you must first root, have CWM, and make a nandroid backup. You can't restore anything until you have a backup to restore from.
U CANNOT restore a nandroif backul from a completely different phone to a new one, unless they are the same model (eg skyrocket to skyrocket)
If its same phone but not rooted can i
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If its same phone but not rooted can i
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Exactly the same yes. Just flash cwm first in odin.
I have always used CWM but am wondering if there is an updated version of it that creates a nandroid backup with the proper date name? If not does anyone know if twrp also has this issue?
thanks in advance
You can change the names in rom manager.
Cwm all the way. 6.0.1.2 touch is fast, stable, has not let me down
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If you change the names though, don't you have to change them exactly back if you ever go to restore a nandroid? i read that somewhere, something about changing the mdsum when you rename it?
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Not that I am aware of, just did a restore last week on a custom name. But don't hold me to that, as I do not fully know. Alot of my apps had to be reinstalled due to force closures. Is that a result of renaming?....... Not sure
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Twrp has the same issue. It's odd. And from my experience, changing the name in Twrp makes it unable to restore.
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Dcox28 said:
If you change the names though, don't you have to change them exactly back if you ever go to restore a nandroid? i read that somewhere, something about changing the mdsum when you rename it?
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No.
I just leave what they have for the name and add what I want afterwards.
Hasn't failed me in 2+ years....
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Dcox28 said:
If you change the names though, don't you have to change them exactly back if you ever go to restore a nandroid? i read that somewhere, something about changing the mdsum when you rename it?
Thanks
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I always rename my cwm backups. Never had any problem with dozens of restores.
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I always rename my cwm backups. Never had any problem with dozens of restores.
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Same here
That's what I'll do from now on, keep cwm's default name and tag a little custom name behind it.
My question earlier about having to uninstall and reinstall my apps after a restore, any input on that?
A good chunk of them would keep popping up a screen saying: xxxx has stopped suddenly had to force close. Or something on those lines. Why? Restore should return all data/permissions...
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Download cwm from market, have it flash the latest official release, and profit. I don't know why people suddenly have an obsession with random cwm and twrp versions flashed through whatever.
No ez recovery here my friend.
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It's mostly just a matter of preference. I like CWM Touch more than TWRP just based on feel. However, AFAIK there isn't a version of CWM for our phone with working ADB. Which means, if your flash goes awry you have to jump through hoops to fix it (pulling your SD card to put files on it, or restoring a nandroid). TWRP doesn't have ADB either, and USB mounting appears to be broken, but at least it has a built in file manager and (more importantly) terminal. For this reason, I'm currently using TWRP, but as soon as I can find a version of CWM Touch with working ADB I'm switching back to that.
On a side note, you can definitely rename backups in CWM and TWRP, as long as you avoid certain characters. For example, changing the name of a backup in CWM to something with a space in it will cause the MD5 check to fail when trying to restore. I'm not sure which other characters cause problems, but I always rename mine with letters, underscores, and numbers and can restore without issue.
I prefer twrp because it looks a lot nicer than cwm... it more or less personal preference
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Hello everybody. I need some clearance. My final goal in the Scheme of things is to Back up all my data, install the newest version of Cyanogen Mod, Restore Cyanogen so that i get all my apps and data back, and then eventually restore everything to stock so I can trade in he phone, and then repeat the process with a new phone. Can anybody tell me some of the first things I should do, to nudge me in the right direction?
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Back it up on Google.
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Also, read more. Some of the things you want to do can't be done in the order you want, and restoring a Nandroid from a different device is a great way to brick.
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It's also not a good idea to restore app data (via something like Titanium Backup) between different ROMs.
There's an app called. Scandisk that will b/u your internal sd to your ext sd. User data only I believe.
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stoopendis said:
There's an app called. Scandisk that will b/u your internal sd to your ext sd. User data only I believe.
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You can also just plug it into a computer and copy it off to your hard drive.
But to the OP, I would heed the warnings about restoring a nandroid backup on a different phone.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of installing a custom ROM only to restore to stock and trade the device in.
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You can also just plug it into a computer and copy it off to your hard drive.
But to the OP, I would heed the warnings about restoring a nandroid backup on a different phone.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of installing a custom ROM only to restore to stock and trade the device in.
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I think the OP wants to get a ROM running on their current phone then Nandroid it and restore the Nandroid on a different phone. Even on the exact same model of phones, restoring a different phone's Nandroid is an excellent way to get yourself a very expensive paperweight.
To clarify my logic, i wanted to turn in my phone in about a year, so I have a year to mess around on Cyanogen Mod, then when my phone contract expires down the way, upgrade my phone.
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Use Google and tibu and you should have everything backed up while you play around with your phone. heed the advice on not updating app data, apps are ok, with Tibu.
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atomictom123 said:
To clarify my logic, i wanted to turn in my phone in about a year, so I have a year to mess around on Cyanogen Mod, then when my phone contract expires down the way, upgrade my phone.
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What provider are you with? I don't know of any that make you trade in old phones.
That said, I would definitely not try restoring a nandroid from one phone to another, even if it's the same model.
Even restoring data from a Titanium Backup would be dicey. The best I'd do would be to restore apps only (or better yet, just download them again on the new phone). It doesn't take that long to set things back up on a new phone.
Restoring Nandroid from one phone to another of the same model is fine. It works on Android phones since the beginning of time, as long as the backup includes only /system, /boot and /data. In that case it's also a non-damaging action, since on Skyrocket, like on HTC phones, there is no Samsung weirdness of holding a recovery in the kernel, but recovery is a separate partition - and you can still boot to recovery, even if you restored a corrupted backup, so no need even for Odin.
I don't restore system data from Tibu period, even if it's just dumping it right back onto the same ROM. I've had too many problems in the past with it corrupting something or another, or causing countless FC's that fixing permissions doesn't solve, requiring a clean wipe and reflash.
I've never had a problem flashing app data, just so long as you go through the list of apps carefully and make sure that absolutely nothing system or stock (including stock email, calendar, browser, etc) is being saved. Restore user apps and user app data ONLY with Tibu and you're pretty safe.
I'm with AT&T. By trade in, I ment selling it back to AT&T for some cash value back. And I can be mistaken, but don't they also place your old sim card into your new phone?
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Yea, they usually use the same SIM. You want to trade it in in a year and you're worrying about this s..t now? You'll probably brick it before then.
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Yeah. Mid January of 2014. That's when. And thanks for the good luck :/
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Yeah. Mid January of 2014. That's when. And thanks for the good luck :/
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So you've got a year to read up and learn how to not brick your phone doing it, then? There are stickies at the top of each forum. Combined, they explain how to do about 95-97% of what the typical XDA user will do with their Skyrocket. Before you can do what you want to do, you have to understand why parts of it are impossible to do in the order you want to do them, and why other parts are risky to the point that you might, if you're not careful, screw up any chance of resale.
Thanks TJ. I'll take you up on that.
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What would be the easiest way to get all my data and rom over to my RMA device? I guess it would be copying sdcard content and restore a nandroid from old phone? Anything, I should take care about?
cheers!
In the nandroid do not backup efs partition. Restoring that on your new device will permanently screw it up.
Yes sure, but other than that, it should work fine?
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Personally, I stay away from restoring a nandroid on a different device (even if it is the same model). It may work just fine, but doing it the safe(r) way is really not that hard.
I'd let contacts/calendar/photos/music be handled by google (gmail account, G+ and Google Music)
For App data, for game progress or Google authenticator codes or tasker profiles etc, I'd use Titanium backup.
Alright, I'll go with titanium backup then, better safe than sorry!
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I recently did a nandroid and transfer of my data only.
Worked like a charm.
Just saying.
WR
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In Total Agreement Restore Data Only from Previous Nandroid
I recently did a nandroid and transfer of my data only
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jd1639 said:
In the nandroid do not backup efs partition. Restoring that on your new device will permanently screw it up.
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What means "permanently screw it up"?
Actually I don't know what the efs partition is.
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What means "permanently screw it up"?
Actually I don't know what the efs partition is.
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Thats where your phones IMEI is stored... If you screw it up without having a backup u are screwed! You wont be able to connect to network without a valid IMEI...
It will brick the device. Its just not a good idea. The same way that you can't take a hardrive that is formatted for one computer operating system and plug it into a different one even if its the exact same hardware. It won't work.
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I recently did a nandroid and transfer of my data only.
Worked like a charm.
Just saying.
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On different phones? Sounds good!
Yes, i was using and left a 16gb I gave to wife when my 32 arrived.
So to be clear, I only backed up data and transferred the file over to new phone. Updated (32) to the point where the old one was at, then restored it (data only back up) and here I am today a week later and all is well in my world.
I wasn't sure it would work, but tried and made life simple.
WR
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