I have always used CWM but am wondering if there is an updated version of it that creates a nandroid backup with the proper date name? If not does anyone know if twrp also has this issue?
thanks in advance
You can change the names in rom manager.
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If you change the names though, don't you have to change them exactly back if you ever go to restore a nandroid? i read that somewhere, something about changing the mdsum when you rename it?
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Not that I am aware of, just did a restore last week on a custom name. But don't hold me to that, as I do not fully know. Alot of my apps had to be reinstalled due to force closures. Is that a result of renaming?....... Not sure
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Twrp has the same issue. It's odd. And from my experience, changing the name in Twrp makes it unable to restore.
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If you change the names though, don't you have to change them exactly back if you ever go to restore a nandroid? i read that somewhere, something about changing the mdsum when you rename it?
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No.
I just leave what they have for the name and add what I want afterwards.
Hasn't failed me in 2+ years....
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If you change the names though, don't you have to change them exactly back if you ever go to restore a nandroid? i read that somewhere, something about changing the mdsum when you rename it?
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I always rename my cwm backups. Never had any problem with dozens of restores.
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I always rename my cwm backups. Never had any problem with dozens of restores.
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Same here
That's what I'll do from now on, keep cwm's default name and tag a little custom name behind it.
My question earlier about having to uninstall and reinstall my apps after a restore, any input on that?
A good chunk of them would keep popping up a screen saying: xxxx has stopped suddenly had to force close. Or something on those lines. Why? Restore should return all data/permissions...
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Download cwm from market, have it flash the latest official release, and profit. I don't know why people suddenly have an obsession with random cwm and twrp versions flashed through whatever.
No ez recovery here my friend.
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It's mostly just a matter of preference. I like CWM Touch more than TWRP just based on feel. However, AFAIK there isn't a version of CWM for our phone with working ADB. Which means, if your flash goes awry you have to jump through hoops to fix it (pulling your SD card to put files on it, or restoring a nandroid). TWRP doesn't have ADB either, and USB mounting appears to be broken, but at least it has a built in file manager and (more importantly) terminal. For this reason, I'm currently using TWRP, but as soon as I can find a version of CWM Touch with working ADB I'm switching back to that.
On a side note, you can definitely rename backups in CWM and TWRP, as long as you avoid certain characters. For example, changing the name of a backup in CWM to something with a space in it will cause the MD5 check to fail when trying to restore. I'm not sure which other characters cause problems, but I always rename mine with letters, underscores, and numbers and can restore without issue.
I prefer twrp because it looks a lot nicer than cwm... it more or less personal preference
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I was just thinking everyone is bummed about not having a full working cwm to do a full restore. But when u screw up its Odin to the call. right? I just don't see why we need full CWM when we can use Odin if we mess up. As far as getting things back to normal (setting,icons,wallpapers,etc.) U can use advanced restore to put everything back the way it was before the flash but still keep the effects of new kernels and roms. So i ask this why all the fuss? Also maybe someone could elaborate on the mount issue. Is it only when you try to do a full restore Or flash certain Roms? Oh yea and this is a noob asking.
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It's mostly a question of convenience. If we get a fully functioning cwm it can be directly booted in to replacing the stock recovery. More importantly it can be incorporated into Rom Manager which makes lots of things easier and more standardized. Things like flashing roms and kernels or restoring backups and making fixes would be much easier and all right there in rom manager/cwm.
As far as Odin/heimdal goes yes that works for installing roms, restoring from soft bricks, etc. but is no substitute for a nandroid backup/restore which is great for reverting to a former configurations fully and easily after trying out new roms, kernels, etc.
There are other reasons it would be great to have a finished cwm but what we have now is not that bad since it can do most of the important things we need.
I am still interested in what I hear that people are restoring full nandroid backups successfully. The official word is that its not unmounting properly during format function in a restore, at least that's what I understand. If full restore is actually working as some are claiming then I'm not sure what is actually left undone.
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Harhar321 said:
It's mostly a question of convenience. If we get a fully functioning cwm it can be directly booted in to replacing the stock recovery. More importantly it can be incorporated into Rom Manager which makes lots of things easier and more standardized. Things like flashing roms and kernels or restoring backups and making fixes would be much easier and all right there in rom manager/cwm.
As far as Odin/heimdal goes yes that works for installing roms, restoring from soft bricks, etc. but is no substitute for a nandroid backup/restore which is great for reverting to a former configurations fully and easily after trying out new roms, kernels, etc.
There are other reasons it would be great to have a finished cwm but what we have now is not that bad since it can do most of the important things we need.
I am still interested in what I hear that people are restoring full nandroid backups successfully. The official word is that its not unmounting properly during format function in a restore, at least that's what I understand. If full restore is actually working as some are claiming then I'm not sure what is actually left undone.
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So basically it would take the need for a PC out. Plus make restoring full backup possible (also tried full restore and got mounting error). Thanks for the info. So is it do to lack of devolopment and devs that r device is not so popular or the mounting issue. Thanks again.
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Damn you got the mounting error....i thought that worked...wtf
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Why am I testing post that your alter to do a full restore...pretty misleading
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Why am I testing post that your alter to do a full restore...pretty misleading
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Just curious..... Have u tried the full restore yet on CWM? If so what where your results??? I have to admit i finally have my 4g running and set up just how i want it and im a little nervous to try it out(i have done a couple advanced restores) for fear me and my old friend odin might end up getting back together a little sooner than i had planned!
Well wait maybe I'm confused..advanced restores are not nandroid restore?...
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Well wait maybe I'm confused..advanced restores are not nandroid restore?...
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Advanced restore lets you restore just not full restore. It gives you the option to restore system,data,ect one at a time. However I have not tried to restore system just data. Like I said before couldn't full restore due to mounting issue. Also I think nandroid backup is just another term for a full backup of basicly the exact state of the phone at the time back up is done. If I'm wrong please feel free to correct me.
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Ah so it sounds like there is still a mounting related error after all. And yes you got it about right. A full nandroid restore basically brings your phone back to 100% exactly the state it was in when you backed it up.
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Totally clear on that considering I've been in this since the g1 with RAs recovery..that guy was so hardcore with yhe recovery....so what does the state of the phone look like after you do a restore?
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You hit the nail on the head....
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So wait nandroid backup and restore doesnt work for some people?
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So wait nandroid backup and restore doesnt work for some people and for some it does?
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Let's clear up the confusion...
As I posted on the Wiki, I have successfully done a Nandroid backup and a Nandroid restore... In both cases the "system" was identified as being backed up (or restored).
I have repeated this several times, the most recent being this morning. But, in an effort to not dispute krylon360, I've posted a targeted question to him in his thread announcing CWM3.0.2.8Beta.
I am hopeful of his response!
I was just wondering cause it works for me all the time and I thought it was working for everybody.
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It is....they say it works with bali kernal, you can't use the stock kernal..I've tested and confirmed
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I was just thinking everyone is bummed about not having a full working cwm to do a full restore. But when u screw up its Odin to the call. right? I just don't see why we need full CWM when we can use Odin if we mess up. As far as getting things back to normal (setting,icons,wallpapers,etc.) U can use advanced restore to put everything back the way it was before the flash but still keep the effects of new kernels and roms. So i ask this why all the fuss? Also maybe someone could elaborate on the mount issue. Is it only when you try to do a full restore Or flash certain Roms? Oh yea and this is a noob asking.
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restore definitely works on cwm.... u all r kinda being wild... there are already threads on this... look at the development thread for clockworkmod... comparing odin to cwm psshhh
Nothing wrong with odin. Nothing wrong with cwm. I have been backing up and restoring with cwm for a while now. Still don't know if it's a true "nandroid" backup but it restores everything but my lock screen wallpaper. Everytime without fail. So good that I have not had to use odin or titanium. I'm even sure I could odin at this point and get all of it back through cwm. Follow the steps for setting it up you should be fine. I'm running whites KD1 and have been since it came out.(**** I might have to Odin now just to check it out) How do you use Odin again?
Have fun
Is there a way to verify a backup worked? This morning I was trying to restore a backup and it said the md5sum didn't match. I hadn't done anything different than I ever do. I Just ran the backup in recovery yesterday and tried to restore it today. Thankfully I had an additional backup from the day before that did work but it kind of made me nervous since it really seems you cannot be sure they worked.
I am hoping maybe there is a way I can check the md5sum of a backup somehow but I am really not sure how to go about doing that.
You can try THIS to verify your md5sum. Not sure if it will work, never had the cause to check the md5sum of a backup. Another option would be to switch Recovery to TWRP. Much more stable on the Shift than CWM. Also a lot more options overall .
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For a more detailed explanation of CWM you can check out THIS GUIDE
I had the md5 thing happen about a week ago. Since then I've been making 2 backups. Still room for error, but I little less likely. Also started making them in recovery instead of rom manager then rename later.
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I had the md5 thing happen about a week ago. Since then I've been making 2 backups. Still room for error, but I little less likely. Also started making them in recovery instead of rom manager then rename later.
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Your posts jogged my memory. I THINK when my problem happened I may have actually chosen to do a backup through rom manager but didn't really think anything of it since it boots the phone into recovery anyway. Usually I boot myself into recovery and do the backups myself but I think that time I may not have. I probably will not do that again.
Stopped using RomManager a while back. Used it only for renaming Backups when I used CWM. But have sinced switched to TWRP. Like it much better, and more options. If you want to rename a Backup. Just connect the device as a Disk Drive to your PC. Explore to the TWRP Backup folder, and rename that way.
There are times that I want to use either TWRP, CWM, or Rogue recoveries. Has anyone ever come up with a method of choosing from more than one recovery when booting? I have a bunch of nandroids saved on CWM and don't want to risk losing them. I have one or two from when I was using TWRP as well. I don't know if they will still be there if I return to using TWRP.
I am a relative noob when it comes to all this moving stuff on and off my Xoom, so I apologize if these questions sound like, "I have a cow and can't figure which udder to squeeze to get cheese, and which is for chocolate milk"
The backups will be there until you delete them. And no you can only have one recovery at a time.
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You can have flashable zip versions of these recoveries stored in your internal CD card that you can flash any of which thru any of which to switch between recoveries, but I am not sure if the restore would work after you switch from one to another, try and see.
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Even if you flash different recoveries you can always come back to the original one and restore.
Hit the thanks button and wam it disappears ! Try it.
Was gonna give TWRP recovery a try... I am currently using CWM and didn't know if it would be safe to just use the goo app and flash TWRP that way. I have always used CWM and wanted to try something new and just want to be safe when going about it.
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I tried it, but I didn't like much. To much switching pages to do things, such as format, erase cashed, and dalvic. But who knows you might just like it.
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Yes you can install TWRP any way you like. One recovery will simply overwrite the other. Nothing to worry about.
My only brick
The one time i ever truly bricked a phone after close to 30 times rooting and unlocking boot loaders was with TWRP and this phone. I am talkin complete brick, like qualcom drivers request show up on windows brick, the kind brick that you just throw at a window, because you got no charging light, no vibration, no light what so ever.
Btw i was only flashing a rom
I never touched TWRP after .
Thanks for the input guys..... Gonna stick with CWM for now. Seen a fair amount of negative stuff towards TWRP in the forums and don't want to risk anything.
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Been running TWRP since received pre-order device. No problems whatsoever.
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Been running TWRP since received pre-order device. No problems whatsoever.
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Seconded.
Used the gooapp to flash twrp and haven't had any problems. In fact I switched over from cwm because while installing liquidsmooth cwm kept giving me error 7. Everything I googled told me it was a problem with my recovery, so switched to twrp and presto
Although watch which version of twrp because I was reading the Cleanrom lite thread and ppl were having issues with the latest twrp at the time of their postings. It was around end of September that they were saying this, I believe.
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Been running TWRP since received pre-order device. No problems whatsoever.
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Thirded
prdog1 said:
Been running TWRP since received pre-order device. No problems whatsoever.
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I used to use cwm and now have been using twrp and have never had a problem. This guy above you can't blame twrp for your brick you don't know if that's what it was. Twrp I like better cause I can move my backup folder and copy it even to another computer. Cwm has the blob folder which you can't see which files belong to which backup so you can't just move one backup you have do do them all
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I tried it, but I didn't like much. To much switching pages to do things, such as format, erase cashed, and dalvic. But who knows you might just like it.
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Don't know what you were looking out but CWM is the one where the wipes/format are on different pages. All wipe options in TWRP are on the wipe page right next to each other. Newest version now released.
Does anyone know why? Its done this since I first rooted and did my first back up.
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same here. i think thats just how CWM works.
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same here. i think thats just how CWM works.
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Hmmm. Its only ever done it on my s III. Never did it on my og evo or HTC sensation. Maybe its the version of cwm. Is there an updated one? I have version 6.0.1.2 I know there's a touch version but I heard it was buggy.
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There is a bug in the RTC software for this phone. Until that but gets fixed (would have to be by Samsung or VZW) this isnt going to change.
Yeah it sucks but just rename your backups after they are done
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Yeah it sucks but just rename your backups after they are done
Hit me up on Gtalk if u need help @musclehead84
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I believe if you rename the backup then you will have to remake the MD5 for that backup, which isnt really a big deal. Just wanted to toss that out there.
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I believe if you rename the backup then you will have to remake the MD5 for that backup, which isnt really a big deal. Just wanted to toss that out there.
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i keep 2 renamed nandroids that i restore regularly and run them without any issues.
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I believe if you rename the backup then you will have to remake the MD5 for that backup, which isnt really a big deal. Just wanted to toss that out there.
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U can rename them as long as u don't use special characters.
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Install rom manager from the market and flash the latest recovery through that. Walla, they're back to normal. Only fixable by Samsung or vzw? Wtf do people get this stuff? This question gets asked every other day and there are STILL people who think its some unsolvable bug.
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Install rom manager from the market and flash the latest recovery through that. Walla, they're back to normal. Only fixable by Samsung or vzw? Wtf do people get this stuff? This question gets asked every other day and there are STILL people who think its some unsolvable bug.
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That's the first I've heard this. I have the latest cwm touch and wrong dates show. Actually I keep seeing people use RM and the recovery isn't flashing right.
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same me
Same me as well,:crying:
I thought that was normal since those numbers are no where near a type of date, I just rename it once booted into ROM.
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i suffering same issue too
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Install rom manager from the market and flash the latest recovery through that. Walla, they're back to normal. Only fixable by Samsung or vzw? Wtf do people get this stuff? This question gets asked every other day and there are STILL people who think its some unsolvable bug.
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This is not true. I dl'd my CWM thru RM and my dates are still wrong. Where do u get this stuff?
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Install rom manager from the market and flash the latest recovery through that. Walla, they're back to normal. Only fixable by Samsung or vzw? Wtf do people get this stuff? This question gets asked every other day and there are STILL people who think its some unsolvable bug.
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That's incorrect. The date issue is still there regardless of how it's flashed in. Some people have reported issues with restoring after renaming. Consensus seams to be if you keep the default cwm assigned name and add your own to the end of it without any spaces, any reported issues dissappear.
Boom! Jellybomb biatch!
annoying for sure. I just rename the moment I am done and booted back up.
TWRP date is also wrong but you can rename them anything you want at time backup. :laugh:
The guy meant backup FROM RM, it allows you to rename the backup file before it gets created, then reboots into recovery and creates the backup.
please try to search for your problem before posting... I'm typically the last to complain about that, but geez us...
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The guy meant backup FROM RM, it allows you to rename the backup file before it gets created, then reboots into recovery and creates the backup.
please try to search for your problem before posting... I'm typically the last to complain about that, but geez us...
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TWRP does everything rom manager does except download roms which have been seen to cause bricks. Backups are named before creation also but already booted into recovery. One stop shop. Easier wipe.
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TWRP does everything rom manager does except download roms which have been seen to cause bricks. Backups are named before creation also but already booted into recovery. One stop shop. Easier wipe.
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I got to jump on that one of these days to see what all the fuss is about, I'm just loving cwm touch too much! I assume when changing, your existing nandroids will become useless, so would make sense to copy onto your cpu incase they are needed down the road...?
Boom! Jellybomb biatch!