Does back up recover everything. Like a clock work recovery. New phone with old SIM and old memory card. What will restore? Will give me back all my apps or is that on the USB of old phone? Can I even use clock work with new phone? Or must it be unlocked?
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When I have done a nandroid restore I usually get all the apps that were there when I backed it up. It also saves the user settings for the apps and anything the way you customized it (like wallpaper, widgets, launcher, etc.). It doesn't affect internal or external sd card.
You need to have CWM in the first place to restore the backup though. And I don't know about using a backup from another phone...especially if its not the same model.
In order to restore you must first root, have CWM, and make a nandroid backup. You can't restore anything until you have a backup to restore from.
U CANNOT restore a nandroif backul from a completely different phone to a new one, unless they are the same model (eg skyrocket to skyrocket)
If its same phone but not rooted can i
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If its same phone but not rooted can i
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Exactly the same yes. Just flash cwm first in odin.
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I was just thinking everyone is bummed about not having a full working cwm to do a full restore. But when u screw up its Odin to the call. right? I just don't see why we need full CWM when we can use Odin if we mess up. As far as getting things back to normal (setting,icons,wallpapers,etc.) U can use advanced restore to put everything back the way it was before the flash but still keep the effects of new kernels and roms. So i ask this why all the fuss? Also maybe someone could elaborate on the mount issue. Is it only when you try to do a full restore Or flash certain Roms? Oh yea and this is a noob asking.
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It's mostly a question of convenience. If we get a fully functioning cwm it can be directly booted in to replacing the stock recovery. More importantly it can be incorporated into Rom Manager which makes lots of things easier and more standardized. Things like flashing roms and kernels or restoring backups and making fixes would be much easier and all right there in rom manager/cwm.
As far as Odin/heimdal goes yes that works for installing roms, restoring from soft bricks, etc. but is no substitute for a nandroid backup/restore which is great for reverting to a former configurations fully and easily after trying out new roms, kernels, etc.
There are other reasons it would be great to have a finished cwm but what we have now is not that bad since it can do most of the important things we need.
I am still interested in what I hear that people are restoring full nandroid backups successfully. The official word is that its not unmounting properly during format function in a restore, at least that's what I understand. If full restore is actually working as some are claiming then I'm not sure what is actually left undone.
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It's mostly a question of convenience. If we get a fully functioning cwm it can be directly booted in to replacing the stock recovery. More importantly it can be incorporated into Rom Manager which makes lots of things easier and more standardized. Things like flashing roms and kernels or restoring backups and making fixes would be much easier and all right there in rom manager/cwm.
As far as Odin/heimdal goes yes that works for installing roms, restoring from soft bricks, etc. but is no substitute for a nandroid backup/restore which is great for reverting to a former configurations fully and easily after trying out new roms, kernels, etc.
There are other reasons it would be great to have a finished cwm but what we have now is not that bad since it can do most of the important things we need.
I am still interested in what I hear that people are restoring full nandroid backups successfully. The official word is that its not unmounting properly during format function in a restore, at least that's what I understand. If full restore is actually working as some are claiming then I'm not sure what is actually left undone.
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So basically it would take the need for a PC out. Plus make restoring full backup possible (also tried full restore and got mounting error). Thanks for the info. So is it do to lack of devolopment and devs that r device is not so popular or the mounting issue. Thanks again.
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Damn you got the mounting error....i thought that worked...wtf
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Why am I testing post that your alter to do a full restore...pretty misleading
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Why am I testing post that your alter to do a full restore...pretty misleading
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Just curious..... Have u tried the full restore yet on CWM? If so what where your results??? I have to admit i finally have my 4g running and set up just how i want it and im a little nervous to try it out(i have done a couple advanced restores) for fear me and my old friend odin might end up getting back together a little sooner than i had planned!
Well wait maybe I'm confused..advanced restores are not nandroid restore?...
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Well wait maybe I'm confused..advanced restores are not nandroid restore?...
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Advanced restore lets you restore just not full restore. It gives you the option to restore system,data,ect one at a time. However I have not tried to restore system just data. Like I said before couldn't full restore due to mounting issue. Also I think nandroid backup is just another term for a full backup of basicly the exact state of the phone at the time back up is done. If I'm wrong please feel free to correct me.
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Ah so it sounds like there is still a mounting related error after all. And yes you got it about right. A full nandroid restore basically brings your phone back to 100% exactly the state it was in when you backed it up.
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Totally clear on that considering I've been in this since the g1 with RAs recovery..that guy was so hardcore with yhe recovery....so what does the state of the phone look like after you do a restore?
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You hit the nail on the head....
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So wait nandroid backup and restore doesnt work for some people?
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So wait nandroid backup and restore doesnt work for some people and for some it does?
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Let's clear up the confusion...
As I posted on the Wiki, I have successfully done a Nandroid backup and a Nandroid restore... In both cases the "system" was identified as being backed up (or restored).
I have repeated this several times, the most recent being this morning. But, in an effort to not dispute krylon360, I've posted a targeted question to him in his thread announcing CWM3.0.2.8Beta.
I am hopeful of his response!
I was just wondering cause it works for me all the time and I thought it was working for everybody.
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It is....they say it works with bali kernal, you can't use the stock kernal..I've tested and confirmed
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I was just thinking everyone is bummed about not having a full working cwm to do a full restore. But when u screw up its Odin to the call. right? I just don't see why we need full CWM when we can use Odin if we mess up. As far as getting things back to normal (setting,icons,wallpapers,etc.) U can use advanced restore to put everything back the way it was before the flash but still keep the effects of new kernels and roms. So i ask this why all the fuss? Also maybe someone could elaborate on the mount issue. Is it only when you try to do a full restore Or flash certain Roms? Oh yea and this is a noob asking.
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restore definitely works on cwm.... u all r kinda being wild... there are already threads on this... look at the development thread for clockworkmod... comparing odin to cwm psshhh
Nothing wrong with odin. Nothing wrong with cwm. I have been backing up and restoring with cwm for a while now. Still don't know if it's a true "nandroid" backup but it restores everything but my lock screen wallpaper. Everytime without fail. So good that I have not had to use odin or titanium. I'm even sure I could odin at this point and get all of it back through cwm. Follow the steps for setting it up you should be fine. I'm running whites KD1 and have been since it came out.(**** I might have to Odin now just to check it out) How do you use Odin again?
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Hello everyone, i'm relatively new to all this modding stuff for androids, but with the help of your lovely site an the clever people within, i have since managed to root and install the Clockworkmod on my LG p690f from here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354387
Everything seems good and i did do a nandroid backup as factory(out of the box) setup the very moment CWM was installed.
Since then i have removed alot of the stock apps and changed all kinds of things..
My question is... if i need to do a restore with cwm on boot (home + vol up + power) and select backup > restore, will it be back to how it was?... stock rom... stock apps.. stock settings?.. or will my phone turn into a pretty paper weight?
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If you need to restore, it will be the exact look as the time you did the backup.
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If you need to restore, it will be the exact look as the time you did the backup.
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Thank you so much
I just got a warrantied out replacement phone and want to restore a previously saved nandroid backup. I noticed TWRP on the new phone doesn't default to the previous backup folder and backs up to a new folder. Can I re-store a nandroid from a different phone to my new one? Or is this going to cause problems?
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I just got a warrantied out replacement phone and want to restore a previously saved nandroid backup. I noticed TWRP on the new phone doesn't default to the previous backup folder and backs up to a new folder. Can I re-store a nandroid from a different phone to my new one? Or is this going to cause problems?
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It should work fine.
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To play it safe, you may be better off installing everything from scratch. jiggity janx said this on the SGS3 "I thought I read somewhere recently that because backups capture phone specific data on Samsung models that you are unable to move a backup from one phone to another without overwriting some valuable individual phone information". Besides, the location of the folder would make a difference also.
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It should work fine.
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Yeah, I wouldn't do that though. I would start fresh.
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Thanks everyone. I did restore the nandroid without any issues. I would have started from scratch but I had a Corp email account which is secured and I didn't want to try and reset it up as I would have had to give a reason I was doing it and didn't want to admit I bricked the phone.
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Is it possible to root the stock ICS rom (1.27 hboot) without wiping all of the phone's data? I was going to root my wife's sensation and install a custom rom, but she's been using it for almost a year on the stock un-rooted rom and she'd like to backup all of her apps as well as their data with titanium backup before hand so they can be restored on the new rom. All of the rooting methods I've seen all require a factory reset or wipe so I was just wondering if there was a method to achieve this that I have overlooked. Sure am glad I unlocked and rooted mine way back before the ICS update, heh.
I back up with titanium backup pro, you can do a batch restore of the apps and data with that. Also you can save files to computer and restore from there. What exactly is she not wanting to lose.? If it's files just put them on the computer and then restore from there, if it's applications titanium backup will take care of that. Hope this helps
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I back up with titanium backup pro, you can do a batch restore of the apps and data with that. Also you can save files to computer and restore from there. What exactly is she not wanting to lose.? If it's files just put them on the computer and then restore from there, if it's applications titanium backup will take care of that. Hope this helps
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I know all of that, that's what I want to do. The problem is that Titanium backup requires root. How can I backup her apps and data if I have to wipe the phone to get root in the first place? I just need a way to at least temporarily gain root so that I can run titanium and create the backups. Then I can unlock, s-off, flash a custom rom, install titanium and restore the backups. All of the methods of rooting that I've been able to find require a factory reset/wipe so all of the data and apps would be gone, making it pointless to run a backup.
Oh I understand now, try my backup from market it does not require root. Sorry I misunderstood. Hope this solves your problems.my back up will do the job. Simply search in market for My backup.
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Oh I understand now, try my backup from market it does not require root. Sorry I misunderstood. Hope this solves your problems.my back up will do the job. Simply search in market for My backup.
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Without root, my backup will only backup apps, no data.
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Without root, my backup will only backup apps, no data.
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If you don't want loss of data and want to root the pure stock phone.. Then my soff is the way.. Check the link guide in my signature
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Hello everybody. I need some clearance. My final goal in the Scheme of things is to Back up all my data, install the newest version of Cyanogen Mod, Restore Cyanogen so that i get all my apps and data back, and then eventually restore everything to stock so I can trade in he phone, and then repeat the process with a new phone. Can anybody tell me some of the first things I should do, to nudge me in the right direction?
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Back it up on Google.
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Also, read more. Some of the things you want to do can't be done in the order you want, and restoring a Nandroid from a different device is a great way to brick.
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It's also not a good idea to restore app data (via something like Titanium Backup) between different ROMs.
There's an app called. Scandisk that will b/u your internal sd to your ext sd. User data only I believe.
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There's an app called. Scandisk that will b/u your internal sd to your ext sd. User data only I believe.
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You can also just plug it into a computer and copy it off to your hard drive.
But to the OP, I would heed the warnings about restoring a nandroid backup on a different phone.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of installing a custom ROM only to restore to stock and trade the device in.
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You can also just plug it into a computer and copy it off to your hard drive.
But to the OP, I would heed the warnings about restoring a nandroid backup on a different phone.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of installing a custom ROM only to restore to stock and trade the device in.
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I think the OP wants to get a ROM running on their current phone then Nandroid it and restore the Nandroid on a different phone. Even on the exact same model of phones, restoring a different phone's Nandroid is an excellent way to get yourself a very expensive paperweight.
To clarify my logic, i wanted to turn in my phone in about a year, so I have a year to mess around on Cyanogen Mod, then when my phone contract expires down the way, upgrade my phone.
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Use Google and tibu and you should have everything backed up while you play around with your phone. heed the advice on not updating app data, apps are ok, with Tibu.
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To clarify my logic, i wanted to turn in my phone in about a year, so I have a year to mess around on Cyanogen Mod, then when my phone contract expires down the way, upgrade my phone.
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What provider are you with? I don't know of any that make you trade in old phones.
That said, I would definitely not try restoring a nandroid from one phone to another, even if it's the same model.
Even restoring data from a Titanium Backup would be dicey. The best I'd do would be to restore apps only (or better yet, just download them again on the new phone). It doesn't take that long to set things back up on a new phone.
Restoring Nandroid from one phone to another of the same model is fine. It works on Android phones since the beginning of time, as long as the backup includes only /system, /boot and /data. In that case it's also a non-damaging action, since on Skyrocket, like on HTC phones, there is no Samsung weirdness of holding a recovery in the kernel, but recovery is a separate partition - and you can still boot to recovery, even if you restored a corrupted backup, so no need even for Odin.
I don't restore system data from Tibu period, even if it's just dumping it right back onto the same ROM. I've had too many problems in the past with it corrupting something or another, or causing countless FC's that fixing permissions doesn't solve, requiring a clean wipe and reflash.
I've never had a problem flashing app data, just so long as you go through the list of apps carefully and make sure that absolutely nothing system or stock (including stock email, calendar, browser, etc) is being saved. Restore user apps and user app data ONLY with Tibu and you're pretty safe.
I'm with AT&T. By trade in, I ment selling it back to AT&T for some cash value back. And I can be mistaken, but don't they also place your old sim card into your new phone?
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Yea, they usually use the same SIM. You want to trade it in in a year and you're worrying about this s..t now? You'll probably brick it before then.
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Yeah. Mid January of 2014. That's when. And thanks for the good luck :/
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Yeah. Mid January of 2014. That's when. And thanks for the good luck :/
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So you've got a year to read up and learn how to not brick your phone doing it, then? There are stickies at the top of each forum. Combined, they explain how to do about 95-97% of what the typical XDA user will do with their Skyrocket. Before you can do what you want to do, you have to understand why parts of it are impossible to do in the order you want to do them, and why other parts are risky to the point that you might, if you're not careful, screw up any chance of resale.
Thanks TJ. I'll take you up on that.
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