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I've been following the battery drain issue with ARHD, and I've tried changing kernels from the stock Faux, to Faux123 0.2.4.r, Bricked 1.5 and even Bricked 1.4r. None of these has fixed the drain problem for me.
When I look at Battery Monitor Widget, it shows between 100mA to 150mA when the phone is sleeping, so I'm pretty sure this is where the drain is coming from. Is it the rom or a "rogue app?" I turned off wifi, mobile, gps, bluetooth, etc. and the drain stayed at the same level while the phone was sleeping. What can I do to find out what the problem is?
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I've been following the battery drain issue with ARHD, and I've tried changing kernels from the stock Faux, to Faux123 0.2.4.r, Bricked 1.5 and even Bricked 1.4r. None of these has fixed the drain problem for me.
When I look at Battery Monitor Widget, it shows between 100mA to 150mA when the phone is sleeping, so I'm pretty sure this is where the drain is coming from. Is it the rom or a "rogue app?" I turned off wifi, mobile, gps, bluetooth, etc. and the drain stayed at the same level while the phone was sleeping. What can I do to find out what the problem is?
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yup am in a similar boat, would love to know the answer
Do you use facebook etc. How often does is sync? Do you have IM programs running such as Meebo or anything of that nature? What is your brightness at (hopefully not Auto). Does your radio get good signal (Menu > Settings > About > Battery > Battery Use > Click picture of battery drainage up top and is the phone signal section green, etc)
There are many things that can factor into this.
I do not use facebook, I have sync turned off, and I also have wifi, mobile, gps, and bluetooth off. For brightness I use the dimmer app, so it is on its lowest setting. Taking your advice, I looked at my radio signal, and using the recommended radio for ARHD, it showed the radio was not green but grey.
So I reflashed the radio to the one in your signature, and now that bar is yellow. I'll monitor this and let you know if this fixes the problem. Is the radio supposed to be green? Is there another radio I should try if this doesn't work?
alitomari said:
I do not use facebook, I have sync turned off, and I also have wifi, mobile, gps, and bluetooth off. For brightness I use the dimmer app, so it is on its lowest setting. Taking your advice, I looked at my radio signal, and using the recommended radio for ARHD, it showed the radio was not green but grey.
So I reflashed the radio to the one in your signature, and now that bar is yellow. I'll monitor this and let you know if this fixes the problem. Is the radio supposed to be green? Is there another radio I should try if this doesn't work?
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Make sure you flash the matching RIL files to match the radio (when you do this in Clockwork Mod or 4Ext mount /system first before flashing the zip) to give best radio signal.
Green means you are getting good signal, yellow means decent, red is awful. Grey I honestly have no clue.
Different radios give different results for different people. I am not sure where you live to know the best radio to suggest but any changes make sure you match the RILs for that radio.
@ Kohr-Ah
where do you get the matching RIL's from ?
say I tried a different radio on my phone, just to try to get a decent usage from my battery, where does the RIL come into the equation ? what exactly is a RIL and what doe it do ?
Oh, I'm in the UK so if you have a good radio suggestion that I could use on the O2 network, feel free to let me know
Same here, sometimes it gets as low as 40mA but just stay like that for 2 minutes then it's back at between 90-180mA in sleep mode. I'm on ARHD 3.6.5 with Bricked 1.5... Stock gave me about 2 1/2 day of normal use, now I'm down at about 10-12h... Seems to me it's a ARHD problem and not Kernel cause I tried a few Kernels as well.
How about giving the stock kernel a try? Along with what everyone else is saying of course.
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@ Kohr-Ah
where do you get the matching RIL's from ?
say I tried a different radio on my phone, just to try to get a decent usage from my battery, where does the RIL come into the equation ? what exactly is a RIL and what doe it do ?
Oh, I'm in the UK so if you have a good radio suggestion that I could use on the O2 network, feel free to let me know
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867
Matching RILS (Just match to the radio you just installed)
MUST MOUNT /SYSTEM before you flash. Otherwise they don't install.
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/telephony.html
That explains what the Radio Interface Layer is and does. Basically communicated the radio portion and telephony portion of your phone (if you don't want to read a techinical site)
Thank you so much for your help so far. I'm on Tmobile in the USA, what radio would you suggest for that, and where do I get the RIL files from?
alitomari said:
Thank you so much for your help so far. I'm on Tmobile in the USA, what radio would you suggest for that, and where do I get the RIL files from?
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I am having real good luck with 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01 myself up here in Illinois. Maybe give that a shot? Can always switch if it doesn't help much
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178143 Radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 RILs
alitomari said:
Thank you so much for your help so far. I'm on Tmobile in the USA, what radio would you suggest for that, and where do I get the RIL files from?
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I've had a good experience so far (in terms of both battery life and data reception) with the 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M radio and HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ. I tried the XE radio before that (10.15.9035.02_2 and HTC-RIL 2.2.0173HMQ), and it was also pretty good, but it seems like battery life and data reception is a bit better with the first radio+ril I pointed out.
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How about giving the stock kernel a try? Along with what everyone else is saying of course.
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Cause stock can't record calls... But I'll try that for test purposes and post the result here. I'm also going to try a different radio and perhaps a different ROM (maybe both Stock and cooked).
I installed Faux 014 last night and it worked really good (50-55mA in sleep) until I sent a text, after that it was back to "fake' sleep mode with 90-180mA. I guess this can still be Radio, ROM or Kernel... The search continues.
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Cause stock can't record calls... But I'll try that for test purposes and post the result here. I'm also going to try a different radio and perhaps a different ROM (maybe both Stock and cooked).
I installed Faux 014 last night and it worked really good (50-55mA in sleep) until I sent a text, after that it was back to "fake' sleep mode with 90-180mA. I guess this can still be Radio, ROM or Kernel... The search continues.
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Click the word faux in my signature. That gives you 0.24 final. 014 is ooooolllddd
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I have the same problem with both faux as bricked kernels. I never had this problem until I recently upgraded the ROM.
In sleep mode it takes about 6% battery per hour, with background sync off this is reduced to 4 - 5%. I usually lost about 1% and 2% max when it was sleeping. Didnt install anything new... And this is on my Anker 1900mAh battery. I really dont want to know how fast it will burn through my stock battery
Kohr-Ah said:
I am having real good luck with 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01 myself up here in Illinois. Maybe give that a shot? Can always switch if it doesn't help much
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178143 Radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 RILs
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I tried both the recommended radio and RIL, I'm still draining 100-150mA while the phone is sleeping. Is there anything else to try? Does this mean its the rom? If so, I'm hoping the upcoming ARHD update fixes this issue.
alitomari said:
I tried both the recommended radio and RIL, I'm still draining 100-150mA while the phone is sleeping. Is there anything else to try? Does this mean its the rom? If so, I'm hoping the upcoming ARHD update fixes this issue.
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Are you using the stock kernel that came with your Rom? If so try the one in my sig (click the name) and set OC Daemon to Bypass 192000/1560000 Intellidemand. See how that does.
Kohr-Ah said:
Are you using the stock kernel that came with your Rom? If so try the one in my sig (click the name) and set OC Daemon to Bypass 192000/1560000 Intellidemand. See how that does.
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Just tried the one in your signature, I'm still getting 100-150mA drain while the phone is sleeping, and my battery is still draining incredibly quickly.
alitomari said:
Just tried the one in your signature, I'm still getting 100-150mA drain while the phone is sleeping, and my battery is still draining incredibly quickly.
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When switching kernels I always get quick drain. About the third charge I get accurate battery measurement
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Kohr-Ah said:
When switching kernels I always get quick drain. About the third charge I get accurate battery measurement
Sent from my HTC Sensation in UR-Quan subspace.
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Ok, I'll wait 3 charges and report back. During say when you first flash a new kernel, have you looked at the battery monitor app to see the drain? Like I've been saying, when the phone is asleep its draining over 100mA when this should be around 20mA or so. What could be the cause?
hi guys, on my Desire S (s-off with Rev), i've updated to pre-rooted rom 2.10.401.5 but i'm still with the old radio (20.28I.30.085), no bugs, no issues but I would like to update to the "correct" radio
here are the questions:
- have i to format&clean cache and partitions?
- would i have any advantages with the new radio?
- is it real that the 20.4801.xx radio has some battery drain's issue and so it's better to use 20.48.30 radio?
To answer some of your questions:
You don't have to format anything, although wiping your cache is recommended, because not doing it could lead to a bootloop after the radio is updated.
Strictly speaking, any advantages gained by changing a radio is probably only minimal. Some report better battery life, better reception, while most (me included) don't notice any difference. The opposite can happen, a friend of mine updated to a newer radio and it broke his wireless for good, so he had to revert.
I don't know about any battery issues, since I've not used that particular radio, but the general rule of thumb is, if you don't have any real problems with your current radio, there shouldn't be any reason to change it.
That's my 2 cents anyway, hope someone more knowledgeable in these matters can provide more info
I'm running he 20.4801 radio and actuLly find my battery life has improved over he 20.48 one.
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excuse me but didn't you say that you've had battery drain with 20.4801 and so you tryed the older 20.48.30?
Hey all,
I have a very fun and exciting cell phone now thanks to rooting my phone and installing the Virtuous Inquisition ROM on my phone.
However, now that I've done all that, I've got the itch to do more to my phone. I really like VI as a ROM, but is there anything else I can do to my phone?
Thanks!
Flash hypernonsense, it's like VI but with the remaining few bugs fixed, better battery life (with stock kernel) and a later ICS build. Make sure you have firmware 3.33 to avoid reboots.
boomboomer said:
Flash hypernonsense, it's like VI but with the remaining few bugs fixed, better battery life (with stock kernel) and a later ICS build. Make sure you have firmware 3.33 to avoid reboots.
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I've been tempted to flash hypernonsense too, as its basically like an updated VI. How is firmware 3.33, do you have any wifi signal issues and if so where are you based? Its the only thing holding me back, as I've seen people saying that their wifi is affected after upgrading to 3.33.
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I've been tempted to flash hypernonsense too, as its basically like an updated VI. How is firmware 3.33, do you have any wifi signal issues and if so where are you based? Its the only thing holding me back, as I've seen people saying that their wifi is affected after upgrading to 3.33.
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I'm in the UK, 3G signal strength is improved and wifi is no different than it was in VI - it all works perfectly including tethering.
The biggest improvement is battery life - over 1d 16hrs, with 5 to 7hrs screen on time is the norm now (using the Anker 1900).
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I'm in the UK, 3G signal strength is improved and wifi is no different than it was in VI - it all works perfectly including tethering.
The biggest improvement is battery life - over 1d 16hrs, with 5 to 7hrs screen on time is the norm now (using the Anker 1900).
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Thanks, im also in the UK, so might just give this a shot. Just biding my time for a fully stable CM10 release as it doesnt seem to far away now, so will feed my flashing needs for now. Also been looking at the Anker battery, looks good value for a tenner. On the stock battery on VI, I'm getting around 20-24hr(+) with 3-3.5 hrs screen on time.
boomboomer said:
I'm in the UK, 3G signal strength is improved and wifi is no different than it was in VI - it all works perfectly including tethering.
The biggest improvement is battery life - over 1d 16hrs, with 5 to 7hrs screen on time is the norm now (using the Anker 1900).
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really? hrm... (I also use the Anker 1900s).
I'll check it out. I think I had HyperNonSense before I had VI and switched for some reason.
Thanks.
boomboomer said:
Flash hypernonsense, it's like VI but with the remaining few bugs fixed, better battery life (with stock kernel) and a later ICS build. Make sure you have firmware 3.33 to avoid reboots.
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Does this rom have any bugs that stop you using it on a daily basis?
I'm experiencing a GPS issue with CM9.1 so may need an alternative but I'm not keen on sense anymore so want to stick with the whole stock android look/feel.
Really like the way CM9 works in comparison to CM7, it may just be the change over from gingerbread to ICS but its awesome.
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You can find the "bug" list for this Rom .and for all other roms on the first page of download section .'
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Does this rom have any bugs that stop you using it on a daily basis?
I'm experiencing a GPS issue with CM9.1 so may need an alternative but I'm not keen on sense anymore so want to stick with the whole stock android look/feel.
Really like the way CM9 works in comparison to CM7, it may just be the change over from gingerbread to ICS but its awesome.
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No bugs, been using it as my daily for months now. The only thing not working is the fm radio.
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No bugs, been using it as my daily for months now. The only thing not working is the fm radio.
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Thanks for the response.
So you think this could be one of the closest roms to CM9? In terms of user interface and features?
(Sorry for the noob questions, I've only ever used 2 roms. CM7 and CM9!)
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Repoman123 said:
Thanks for the response.
So you think this could be one of the closest roms to CM9? In terms of user interface and features?
(Sorry for the noob questions, I've only ever used 2 roms. CM7 and CM9!)
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I have no idea, never installed either of those. I aim for a lightweight ROM with maximum battery life as I need the phone for what it can do, rather than eyecandy and features I don't use.
It's as close to an AOSP ROM that has everything working, if that helps.
im sure many of you guys seen or experience this problem...i have yet to see a fix for it so please help me...randomly the phone will heat up, and its really hot near the back camera. when it starts to heat up my battery drains fast (35-50) mins.. if anyone knows a solution please help me out thanx
What ROM are you running?
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Team venom
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Mine does it on occasion. I got it to lessen slightly by uninstalling gsam battery monitor. It gets bad on mine playing hd games.
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Is it heating up while doing anything in particular?
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No its always random... It's really annoying
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Try flashing anther ROM.
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No its always random... It's really annoying
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If you're running Venom 4.0 (Sense 5 4.2.2 Base), and your phone is getting hot, it's essentially a bad flash.
Try this:
Recovery
Nandroid (as always)
Wipe: System, Cache, Dalvik/Cache
Factory Reset
Wipe: Dalvik/Cache
Install ROM, Beastmode Kernel 2.0, Beastmode Kernel 3.5 (add these zips to your flashing all in a row). Choose your voltages in Beastmode 3.5.
Once you've set up your phone, be sure to download something like CPU Tuner or NoFrills CPU Tuner. Charge to 100% and ensure you set your CPU Tuner app to whatever voltages you want, hit apply on boot, and then reboot.
I have been having this same problem. I recently started to use data on my phone and as soon as i enable it my phone gets extremely hot and slow, and the battery starts to run down extremely fast. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
htcmagicuser said:
I have been having this same problem. I recently started to use data on my phone and as soon as i enable it my phone gets extremely hot and slow, and the battery starts to run down extremely fast. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
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More information required. Is your phone stock or modified? If it's modified what ROM/kernel/radio are you using?
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Hey thanks for the quick reply.
Phone is stock, but has been rooted and s-offed
I am running 3.18.502.6 710RD
kernel: 3.4. 10-g310e8f1
baseband: 0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34L
I am using this in New zealand if it makes any difference, bought this one x cheap off ebay and bought an unlock code for it. txt's and callling works fine
Ok, so you're running the stock at&t ROM and the at&t radio. How is the signal strength in the area you're using the device? You can find the specific strength by looking in Settings/About Phone/Network (where -51db is good strength and -110db is poor strength).
If you're dealing with poor signal strength that might explain why the phone heats up so much and the battery dies so quickly, it'd be working too hard to maintain a solid connection.
Following on from that, if you find you have poor strength, it might be worth experimenting with some different radios (baseband). Even if your strength is ok, trying out a few different radios could yield a positive result.
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Also, the AT&T version is locked to having the LTE radio on, which means its constantly looking for AT&T's LTE network, which may be contributing to the battery drain.
This is assuming you are not using LTE, since the carriers have done a pretty good job of having no standard bands between countries/regions.
You might consider flashing a non-AT&T ROM, as it will let you turn off the LTE radio. In addition, since you are s-off, you can try other radios as timmaaa suggested.
When I tried 5.0 and 5.0.1 ROMs I had severe battery drain problems, so I went back to 4.4.4
I don't have time to waste flashing a ROM which hasn't solved the battery life issue which many (not all, I know, but MANY) people have encountered in Lollipop.
My question is this: NOT referring to your own personal setup, but regarding the N5 community as a whole - is there still a battery life problem prevalent on 5.0.2 ROMs for lots of people?
A simple yes or no will suffice. Thank you.
No. There never has been even on the L preview releases
Also there is no 5.0.2 for our device
Yes, there are definitely battery drain issues. I am not too sure it's related to the ROMs themselves but rather the radio. I have tried all Lollipop radios with a very basic set up on both stock ROMs and Cyanogenmod. At some point, I will get idle drain in the region of 2-4% an hour - way higher than I would expect.
There are no wake-locks - the device seems to sleep well - it's just idle drain is horrible. Go back to the radio from 4.4.2 and the drain ceases.
If one more person points to the Battery Life Q&A thread I might swear.
is it possible to use that radio with 5.0.1/2?
also:
fastboot flash radio radio.img is the right way to flash this, right?
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naien said:
is it possible to use that radio with 5.0.1/2?
also:
fastboot flash radio radio.img is the right way to flash this, right?
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Yes, I've not had any compatibility issues with any radio/ROM combo thus far. You can grab the radio image from the within stock factory images here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images or go straight to the radio (in both img and flashable zip format) here http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/Nexus_5/Modems
For ref, KOT49E is the one I use. Technically this is 4.4.1 but 4.4.2 shared the same one.
The KRT16M the 4.4.2? If so i have a flashable zip if you want it
naien said:
is it possible to use that radio with 5.0.1/2?
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fastboot flash radio radio.img is the right way to flash this, right?
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Radios are device-specific and rom-agnostic. You can flash any N5 radio with any rom.
Is it confirmed that the battery life using the old radio is better?
t3al said:
Is it confirmed that the battery life using the old radio is better?
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There is no confirmation.
There are too many variables, the biggest being location....
What's better for one can be completely different for another.
Test several for your usage and location. You may also find little or no difference as well
If you are still getting 'drain', narrow down the issue by logic: work out what is actually using the battery, they don't drain by themselves. Apply this thinking to any device
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... narrow down the issue by logic: work out what is actually using the battery, they don't drain by themselves. Apply this thinking to any device
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I believe my issue is poor signal at home on my desk causing battery drain overnight. By flashing an older version of radio will this improve my battery life in anyway?
There is no such "drain" in Lollipop. People just have wakelock issues with their own setup, the same as on KK or any version of Android. They simply put the blame on Lollipop and say there is nothing wrong with their wakelock issues.
[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
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There is no such "drain" in Lollipop. People just have wakelock issues with their own setup, the same as on KK or any version of Android. They simply put the blame on Lollipop and say there is nothing wrong with their wakelock issues.
[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
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It's a little narrow-minded to rule out all issues based on personal experience. My device, with current set up, sleeps like a baby. I don't use location services nor social apps like Facebook. My signal strength is fine.
On a Lollipop radio, idle drain after 1 or 2 days uptime will increase to around 4% an hour. On the radio from 4.4.2, my uptime can be a week or two and idle remains at about 1% an hour, everything else being equal.
Radios don't cause wakelocks, enable location services or install Facebook.
I do agree with one thing though - it's not Lollipop itself causing the battery issues. Some problem is deeper than that.
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It's a little narrow-minded to rule out all issues based on personal experience. My device, with current set up, sleeps like a baby. I don't use location services nor social apps like Facebook. My signal strength is fine.
On a Lollipop radio, idle drain after 1 or 2 days uptime will increase to around 4% an hour. On the radio from 4.4.2, my uptime can be a week or two and idle remains at about 1% an hour, everything else being equal.
Radios don't cause wakelocks, enable location services or install Facebook.
I do agree with one thing though - it's not Lollipop itself causing the battery issues. Some problem is deeper than that.
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Radio's are an entire different story.
Different ones work better for different people.
Nor are they Android version related - there is no "Lollipop radio", its just a radio version that will work with any version of Android, and was the latest one so it was packaged with the latest factory images. Again, nothing to do with Lollipop
Lethargy said:
Radio's are an entire different story.
Different ones work better for different people.
Nor are they Android version related - there is no "Lollipop radio", its just a radio version that will work with any version of Android, and was the latest one so it was packaged with the latest factory images. Again, nothing to do with Lollipop
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Cool. That's why I said "it's not Lollipop itself causing the battery issues".
Lethargy I disagree mainly because there are a few bugs in Lollipop that need work to make it a bit more stable. They have pushed the fixes into AOSP for the ones that have been found but it seems like custom ROMs on Lollipop or a majorly tweaked stock ROM do better.
A lot of it too I think is how poor Google Play Services is with battery. I feel like I have to jump through hoops just to get Google Play Services to behave.
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Lethargy I disagree mainly because there are a few bugs in Lollipop that need work to make it a bit more stable. They have pushed the fixes into AOSP for the ones that have been found but it seems like custom ROMs on Lollipop or a majorly tweaked stock ROM do better.
A lot of it too I think is how poor Google Play Services is with battery. I feel like I have to jump through hoops just to get Google Play Services to behave.
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What bugs are there in Lollipop that affect battery life? Enlighten me.
And what does Google Play Services specifically have to do with Lollipop?
Lethargy said:
What bugs are there in Lollipop that affect battery life? Enlighten me.
And what does Google Play Services specifically have to do with Lollipop?
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The RAM leak bug: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729
It causes app restarts and extra CPU churn.
MrObvious said:
The RAM leak bug: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729
It causes app restarts and extra CPU churn.
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This is the only reason I've decided to go back to 4.4.4 as I'm writing this. I seriously have to reboot phone 5 plus times a day. Ashley every time I get into car and maps loads this is like a instant trigger. Maybe I have to many background tasks idk, but it didn't happen on kk...