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Kernel developers needed for iphone Android porting

Hi everyone
there's currently a project to port android to Iphone and Ipod serie unforunatly the development is going slowly because of the lack of devs and the people working on the project being swamped so i tought that i could ask here at the largest android modding scene and see if there is anyone interested to help
http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Main_Page
i'm not affiliated to the project i'm just i fan that thinks that they need a helping hand

http://twitter.com/#!/idroidproject
http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Status
Cmon guys lets get this device in to the hands of android

Web OS on Desire

Hi all
Due to being confused i have posted the same thread in Desire Genereal, Desire Q&A, General, WebOS Hacking&General and WebOS Development.
Please delete the wrong ones.
I was just wandering would it be possible and if there is any brave soul to port Web OS to desire. I have read a bit and would like to try this OS myself. Not rich enough to owe 3 mobiles though :/.
Just let me know if I'm asking/wanting impossible or it is doable and someone may take it on board.
thnx in advance for all replies
Regards
Kirior

I'd LOVE to run webOS on my Desire too but webOS isn't open source so you can't, legally speaking, put it on your phone
what you can do though is test it via an emulator on your desktop
you just have do download the SDK at developer.palm.com

i have a palm pre for sprint i am not using, i've been playing around with it, but if you want it, msg me, we can work something out.

A large majority of the OS is in fact open source.
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html

etx said:
A large majority of the OS is in fact open source.
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html
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Indeed, but none of the user interface.
If you want a command-line Linux box, no problem. It will be the same as any other OpenEmbedded-based Linux development machine with no graphical user interface.
If you want what most people refer to as "webOS", that bit is proprietary.
I wouldn't say the open source part is a "large majority" either.
-- Rod

If this just can be like the Nokia N900 that can handle WebOS APP just installing some things.

Official: Palmdroid Development Thread (android app emulator for WebOS)

After speaking with some of you it has become readily apparent that while many people are comfortable waiting for a full android release for the HP Touchpad, there are also quite a few people out there that do not want to switch to a full android OS but simply wish they could have access to the vast app collection that android has to offer.
For these people I offer a solution.
Palmdroid​
The Palmdroid project is going to be an ongoing development project to bring a Dalvik like port to the Palm/HP WebOS operating system.
The goals of this project are as follows:
1) to offer a Dalvik port to WebOS that allows for android app emulation as if they were native WebOS apps much like Alien Dalvik on the nokia n900 or the app emulator of the blackberry playbook
2) Share useful information throughout development with the Touchdroid team as to help them reach their end goals and avoid conflicting and overlapping work as well as to foster collaboration and new ideas to speed the project along.
3)If possible (either worked into the project from the start or through later additions) provide the emulator as a download through the WebOS homebrew App catalog.
Now with the goals outlined I'll move on to how this is going to get going and what needs to happen next.
1) First and foremost... I need volunteer developers. If you have experience with Dalvik, WebOS development, Android development, UI development, C++, Java, Etc. I would like you to PM me with details regarding what you can help with. I have some java and C++ experience as well as a ton of web dev and project management experience but with alot of this I am learning as I go and if this is going to get done with any sort of speed I NEED your help.
2) I will be setting up communication channels for the dev team to discuss what needs to be done, share work, etc.
3) I will be setting up a web page (an extension off of my own since I can't finance purchasing another hosting account or domain name right now) where there will be regular updates on the status of the project as well as a section for the dev team as a repository for project related research, source code bits, group status reports etc.
Until the aforementioned steps are met this thread will be used to offer info, updates, and discussion related to development of Palmdroid.
I hope to have the support of the community here as we move ahead... i know I am new around here but I am very passionate about making this happen.
WebOS is a great operating system... and Android has some amazing apps... won't it be an amazing world when you can have both!
Palmdroid Coming Soon​
-Roto-rooter
PS. this should probably have been in the development section but apparently I can't post there because I am to new here so forgive me. If a Mod would like to move it and give me posting abilities that would be fine.

I subscribed to this thread even tho I have no WebOS devices at all. But I'm intersted in this project's work (I'm not a developer just a "hacker") as the same idea was proposed in the Bada section, too. It seems quite a lot of work to do this, as it's not enough to port dalvik itself, a big chunk of android has to be ported also to make it work. But it's an interesting project!

Agree! I don't want the entire Android OS ... All I want is the apps running on a webos emulator.

Great! Thanks! I'll be watching closely!
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while I probably cannot be of use for the development, I can be helpful for some other things. For instance, I am in the process of creating a logo for the project and also searching for possible devs. I will contact the touchdroid team and see what they think.

Brilliant Idea about starting the dev work
I would support this development and I am sure countless others who have just purchased $99/£89 HP Touchpads would do so. Once again thank you Robo-Rooter & Failhard to start this work.

Just got my 32gb Touchpad in the firesale. Really loving it so far. Having android apps on it would really top this device off. Good luck.

Have been using the touchpad for a couple of days and am amazed at the elegance and sophistication of the webos. Though an old android user ... I absolutely love the webOs interface.
Would love to see the palmdroid happen ... ALL THE VERY BEST GUYS ...
Thanks Robo-Rooter & Failhard for initiating this.

This would be absolutely perfect. I wouldn't want to ditch the WebOS but still be able to run Android apps.
You have my full support.

Great idea!
Great idea!

I have a droid (DesireHD) myself and comparing the droid's interface and webOS, I really like webOS. And looking at how the patches and O/C makes the whole tablet runs silky smooth, I really want an android app emulator. Current apps in webOS's catalogue is pathetic, but combining android's apps and webOS interface is the best one can get.

Subscribed. If I can't get the Android OS, an emulator would do nicely.
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Yeah it will be great to those who want to keep WebOS

Subscribed.

I am a long time webOS enthusiast, and I am hoping that I actually get one of the 6 TouchPads that I ordered over the last few days. I think your proposal is the best way to go, and would be way more useful, and probably easier, than a full dual boot android port. I just wanted to list some resources here to bring to everyone's attention. While XDA is the most amazing collection of talented Android and WinMo hackers, you probably want to enlist the help of the aces that live and breathe webOS. Here is where to find them:
http://forums.precentral.net/ Definitely the most popular webOS forum. All the homebrew devs and hackers hang out here.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page This is where all the nitty gritty is documented in a Wiki. I have known some of the webOS internals guys since the day the Pre launched, and they are very talented.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=webos-internals This is their IRC channel.
Also, if anyone has not seen it, they have already got Ubuntu, including window managers, and apps like GIMP and LibreOffice, running inside cards in webOS. This leads me to believe that the Palmdroid concept is VERY possible.
http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/292457-tutorial-how-get-ubuntu-touchpad.html
The nice thing is that lots of great auxiliary tools already exist to speed up the process, such as MetaDoctor for creating custom ROMs and Preware for downloading and compiling virtually any linux arm package.
Best of luck with everything. I am subscribing and will help where I can.

This is what I was waiting to hear!!! Let us know where to donate!

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This would be absolutely perfect. I wouldn't want to ditch the WebOS but still be able to run Android apps.
You have my full support.
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I agree with this 100%

+1 I believe this is the answer! Hope more people come on board!
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Subscribed, definitely want to know where this is heading.

as the biggest supporter of android on the TP, I've started to fall in love with webOS, not gonna lie. I would definitely support this idea. Its always great to have options!

[DEV]Project Magenta, an iOS-like OS. Anyone interested? + Need devs!

http://crna.cc/magenta.html
Magenta is an implementation of Darwin/BSD on top of the Linux kernel. It is made
up of a number of kernel and userland components that work together. It is fully binary
compatible with iPhone OS 5.0 (as in, it uses the same binary format).
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I am now chatting with the dev on IRC. I want to know if anyone is interested in this, so i know if i will continue the porting or not.
First we need to build the kernel, so we need a kernel dev. There's a DIFF that needs to be applied.
The files are here: http://crna.cc/magenta_source.html
What do you think? Also remember THIS IS A DEV TOPIC, so no asking for ETA & stuff. Nagging will result in locking the topic and discontinuing this.
EDIT: Remember, this has nothing to do with Apple. Everything is Open-Source, so we have the stability of C instead of Java, but also the openness of Android!
Edit 2: Looks like there aren't many devs interested about this, and also there would be no advantages. You can't run Android Apps, nor iOS apps...

What good points will this release have besides compability with iOS apps ?

Not just the "look like android", it can still have a android look but iOS compability, that sure opens a wide horizon. Cross platform apps. It's awesome i think.

MidnightDevil said:
Not just the "look like android", it can still have a android look but iOS compability, that sure opens a wide horizon. Cross platform apps. It's awesome i think.
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It won't run iOS apps.. below was mentioned on project website
" to make it myself). * Will it run iPhone OS apps? * No, because I'm not aiming to have compatible high level frameworks. Just think about how much work is required to have a 100% compatible implementation of UIKit or Celestial. HOWEVER, the CoreOS part should be 100% (or 99%) compatible. Just not the higher level OS. If you're just interested in this because it will "run iOS apps" please go away."
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I can contribute, maybe even run the thing (no promises, in my spare time, won't support it just drop the thing for you, I'm busy next few days though)
Still working on kernel 3.0
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This has nothing to do with iOS' lockdown. It is as open and as free as Android.

In Layman terms; does this mean magenta just runs Android on C and not Java meaning more efficient execution of tasks?

So is it just a ios themed rom, or does it actually have some of the real advances from the ios?
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I'd be willing to dev, but I'm afraid I don't have too much experience.
I know my way around C++ and Python, and I can do Hello World in C. I can read most code though.

It's funny to see people excited with this when they don't know what benefits this development will actually bring :b
I'm not against this at all, please don't take this the wrong way, but to invest in such kind of development you need to have benefits, so, what are they ?

like to contribute
I would like to contribute on development.I know Objective C, worked on few Iphone Apps.

andreigherghe said:
http://crna.cc/magenta.html
I am now chatting with the dev on IRC. I want to know if anyone is interested in this, so i know if i will continue the porting or not.
First we need to build the kernel, so we need a kernel dev. There's a DIFF that needs to be applied.
The files are here: http://crna.cc/magenta_source.html
What do you think? Also remember THIS IS A DEV TOPIC, so no asking for ETA & stuff. Nagging will result in locking the topic and discontinuing this.
EDIT: Remember, this has nothing to do with Apple. Everything is Open-Source, so we have the stability of C instead of Java, but also the openness of Android!
Edit 2: Looks like there aren't many devs interested about this, and also there would be no advantages. You can't run Android Apps, nor iOS apps...
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the most (and only - for me- ) interesting side of this project is having the stability of C instead of Java. Android will be stunning and awesome if it get over java. but iOS like !! nah.
and good luck with that cuz there is people who want it and seems excited about it :highfive:

I'm willing to help, will be getting my uart cable soon.
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icecreame said:
the most (and only - for me- ) interesting side of this project is having the stability of C instead of Java. Android will be stunning and awesome if it get over java.
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You can easily develop for Android using C (Google NDK). What preventing YOU from doing it? But generally that is terrible idea unless someone have got tons of already written code that is too costly/time consuming to port/rewrite. And it is awful idea because it defy purpose of Java compatibility. We got phones out there that are running Android on top of x86/MIPS processors. And thous phones have no problem running absolute majority of Android applications. Plus few startups are developing new processor architectures, because Android would let them access huge software library transparently. And that is fundamental idea behind Android, let OS run on any processor, current or future one, with application developers having no need to port or even recompile their code for new architectures/processor models.

My friend is very intrested in this he is a programmer in c and c++ and c#

Thread closed per OP request, as development has stopped for good on this project.

Why no iOS development section?

I love Android, just saying and I understand this is a Android community, but seeing as we have Windows Phone development, why not have iOS hacking as well? I mean, as a full on Android loving Google sucking nerd I dislike Apple as much as the next guy, but a section on jailbreaking and hardware hacking for Apple would be nice to see. I get that it's mostly proprietary so there's no point, but the same could be said for Windows. Anyway, that's my question

GhostCode64 said:
I love Android, just saying and I understand this is a Android community, but seeing as we have Windows Phone development, why not have iOS hacking as well? I mean, as a full on Android loving Google sucking nerd I dislike Apple as much as the next guy, but a section on jailbreaking and hardware hacking for Apple would be nice to see. I get that it's mostly proprietary so there's no point, but the same could be said for Windows. Anyway, that's my question
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Android is a open source project means we can make custom roms, mods and other. But iOS is closed source project. So, we can't make custom roms and mods for iOS.
If someone tries to do so it may they have to suffer from some legal issues.

Ashwinrg said:
Android is a open source project means we can make custom roms, mods and other. But iOS is closed source project. So, we can't make custom roms and mods for iOS.
If someone tries to do so it may they have to suffer from some legal issues.
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Yes, but we aren't making custom ROMs for Windows are we?
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GhostCode64 said:
Yes, but we aren't making custom ROMs for Windows are we?
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XDA not have iPhone section. But XDA launching new site for iPhone users. For more info you can go to these link
https://www.xda-developers.com/iphone-developers-officially-launches/