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http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
We've seen a lot of Q's about the Froyo update; it's currently in development & will be released for all networks at the end of September...
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Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
jhego said:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October of next year for ATT i'm betting
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There, I fixed it for you.
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http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
Which i'm guessing Mid-October for ATT i'm betting
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My money's on mid December for ATT if it is released in September
But in all seriousness, just look at this as a prime example.
AT&T Tilt was released on October 4, 2007. The 6.1 update wasn't rolled out until August 4, 2008, almost a year after the phone was release. WM 6.1 was available to Carriers in April of 08, which is still half a year, so I do not expect a 2.2 update until sometime next year.
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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Oh, you know it. And we will all flash it.
Hopefully ATT wont lag on it, cuz Sprint just announced that there Evo will have 2.2 August 3rd.
I'm sure AT&T has their top android developers working on this..... Its too bad that their best ANDROID developers consist of three guys in a basement somewhere...
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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To me, people need to stop asking about froyo. It's coming, it's announced and confirmed, that's great.
The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.
So yeah, unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
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You're right. Samsung has not even said what their plans for gingerbread are. I hope that they would upgrade to that too. Google said in april that gingerbread should be ready in november.
jhego said:
Damn ATT, here's hoping to a custom ROM right after September update.
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shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
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shouldnt be an issue since Samsung released the source...
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
I know patience is a virtue but man, i've been checking out the Evo 4G forum and there is so much activity and excitement about the successful leaked Froyo update. When is it our turn? I'm so jealous!!! Lol.
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All we need is a custom kernel for the Samsung Captivate and we can a bug free version of froyo on our devices right now.
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How do we make this happen? And god damnit i want a stage 2 speed fix for the captivate!
:'(
I mean just look at this, LOOK AT IT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7201021&postcount=122
with the kernal patch this guy is getting double the quadrant score and is topping off way higher than a nexus 1 on froyo.
And to think the kernal patch is only necessary because samsung fked up in the firmware!? jUST WTF fix it!
damnit samsung.
good rant, ty.
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Does having the source make it as likely we can have a custom Gingerbread ROM as a Froyo ROM?
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i dont see why not.
I would think they would be stepping up the date as a lot of the other android phones are getting their froyo in August.
When will it get released? I have read everywhere that Google is focusing the most on the UI and im eager as hell to see it.
im also waiting to see the next android version
it might be 2.3 tho
3.0 might be released next year id say
Froyo didn't come out long ago. So i don't tnink they will bring another one out this early
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As far as I know Google will release the new version of Android OS some time in the mid this month.
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When will it get released? I have read everywhere that Google is focusing the most on the UI and im eager as hell to see it.
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Welcome to XDA! Nothing official on a date but maybe by the end of Oct.
What device are you using and planning to upgrade?
i personally wont expect it for months yet. even more so to be ported to existing devices.
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i personally wont expect it for months yet. even more so to be ported to existing devices.
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Froyo was running / ported on the motorola droid within a week of the Google I/O announcement. The nexus one had it officially released 24 hours or so after the announcement.
Any build of 3.0 will get ported to most major phones (well the phones that aren't locked down, thanks so much moto droid 2 / X and the new HTC g2) in less then a week from any build released.
I thought the rumoured date was Nov. 11th or something like that
No source because i forget where i got that one from
This might shed some light
http://www.miui.com/thread-857-1-1.html
Translate it, enjoy.
Android 5.0 Jelly Bean Launching In Q3 Of This Year [REPORT] http://t.co/MY9zka9i -- Redmond Pie (@RedmondPie)
We really need to run up into Samsung SWAT style and force them fkrs to be down wit AOSP can someone give me the link to that petition on change.org? There's only like 3K sigs needed I think ima fb spam it lol
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Android 5.0 Jelly Bean Launching In Q3 Of This Year [REPORT] http://t.co/MY9zka9i -- Redmond Pie (@RedmondPie)
We really need to run up into Samsung SWAT style and force them fkrs to be down wit AOSP can someone give me the link to that petition on change.org? There's only like 3K sigs needed I think ima fb spam it lol
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AOSP is for nexus phones by design, it was something that most companies and Google were comfortable with when they were adopting android from windows mobile.
If you remember, windows mobile was highly customizable and all the OEMs had their own thing going on. This is where android is picking up from.
Don't hold your breath on a pure AOSP phone that's not nexus, it won't be common for a while.
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Android 5.0 Jelly Bean Launching In Q3 Of This Year [REPORT] http://t.co/MY9zka9i -- Redmond Pie (@RedmondPie)
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Why would Google already be bringing out a new operating system when Ice Cream Sandwich has not even been out for 6 months and few people have had the chance to even try it out?
ICS was supposed to eliminate the gaps between all the devices, but that's not going to work out very well if by the time older devices get it, the newest OS will be Android Edible Underwear 7.0.2
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Why would Google already be bringing out a new operating system when Ice Cream Sandwich has not even been out for 6 months and few people have had the chance to even try it out?
ICS was supposed to eliminate the gaps between all the devices, but that's not going to work out very well if by the time older devices get it, the newest OS will be Android Edible Underwear 7.0.2
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If google wanted to eliminate fragmentation touchwiz, motoblur, sense should also be eliminated
Everyphone and user should be given the option like a launcher to use aosp latest and greatest or manufacturer created versions
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Presbycusis said:
Why would Google already be bringing out a new operating system when Ice Cream Sandwich has not even been out for 6 months and few people have had the chance to even try it out?
ICS was supposed to eliminate the gaps between all the devices, but that's not going to work out very well if by the time older devices get it, the newest OS will be Android Edible Underwear 7.0.2
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someone didnt hear googles ceo describe fragmentation as allowing users to choose their "unique " android experience
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someone didnt hear googles ceo describe fragmentation as allowing users to choose their "unique " android experience
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But still. What's wrong with just building a launcher or something? Then they can have their worthless widgets and ugly launcher and I can remove it later. Maybe Google will start to make it easier for manufacturers to make a launcher that can dig deeper into the system so they can have their worthless changes that would be segregated enough to easily be added or removed.
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But still. What's wrong with just building a launcher or something? Then they can have their worthless widgets and ugly launcher and I can remove it later. Maybe Google will start to make it easier for manufacturers to make a launcher that can dig deeper into the system so they can have their worthless changes that would be segregated enough to easily be added or removed.
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Thats still wouldnt fix the problem they would just hold back updates until the update their launcher.
That's why I say we run up into Samsung with some bats and just start wrecking **** OR someone could link me that petition and I could get the remaining signatures..I'm down for either
Waiting patiently for the good hardware on windows phone... Android was nice but the 1 year that I spent with my focus was probably the best mobile experience yet (I don't game much, just an information consumer and workaholic).
Android will be second for me always. Got this SGS2 simply because of hardware specs, fooled me once but they won't fool me twice!
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That's why I say we run up into Samsung with some bats and just start wrecking **** OR someone could link me that petition and I could get the remaining signatures..I'm down for either
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Yes I'm sure attacking employees at samsung is a wonderful idea. That'll sure get things done faster.
I'd watch what you say here and review the rules.
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This thread is unproductive and going nowhere positive.
What are the odds that the One X will get an official update to Android 4.1/Jelly Bean? This is my first Android device so I'm not sure what to expect as far as updates.
Pretty good imo
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Considering it's the latest generation flagship device from a major manufacturer, it's almost guaranteed to get 4.1 at some point.
Agreed with every else's responses. This is a flagship device and Jelly Bean is supposed to be released soon-ish (by the end of the year I think?). It's pretty much guaranteed.
And even if we don't get an official update, there's no doubt there will be custom jb roms out for it eventually.
Most HTC devices seem to get at least one major Android version update. And as other have noted, the One X is their a flagship device, so its highly likely. Unfortunately, AT&T is infamous for being slow to release software updates. Although they seem to be getting a bit better (the Vivid update came pretty quickly).
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Agreed with every else's responses. This is a flagship device and Jelly Bean is supposed to be released soon-ish (by the end of the year I think?). It's pretty much guaranteed.
And even if we don't get an official update, there's no doubt there will be custom jb roms out for it eventually.
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This is the beauty of Android. It doesn't matter if we get it from Google or not. We will get it one way or another.
Well looks like theres a galaxy s 3 with full jelly bean.... no leaks or nothing!!! lol well its not out yet but its the galaxy s 3 mini!!! If you read the last paragraph it says all variants of s 3 will get jelly at the end of this quarter!!! LMAO yeah we shall see!!!!!
http://www.popherald.com/20121023_samsung_galaxy_s3_jelly_bean_update_keyboard_rumor-20246
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Well looks like theres a galaxy s 3 with full jelly bean.... no leaks or nothing!!! lol well its not out yet but its the galaxy s 3 mini!!! If you read the last paragraph it says all variants of s 3 will get jelly at the end of this quarter!!! LMAO yeah we shall see!!!!!
http://www.popherald.com/20121023_samsung_galaxy_s3_jelly_bean_update_keyboard_rumor-20246
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We gotta wait longer for VZW to give it to use officially. Don't get your hopes up.
Definitely thread worthy news.
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Definitely thread worthy news.
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lulz
1 star thread.
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Yeah Verizon sucks no telling when we will see an update
Even a VZW leak would be useful.
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JB won't be coming out officially any time soon.
I'd post a link but not allowed to since I am under 10 posts.
well it is a galaxy s 3 but its a mini.... it is coming with jelly bean on it...go figure a new phone for verizon with jelly and the original s 3 still without it!!
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well it is a galaxy s 3 but its a mini.... it is coming with jelly bean on it...go figure a new phone for verizon with jelly and the original s 3 still without it!!
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Guess you never owned a new RAZR. ICS took forever and JB is a pipe dream. The new RAZR M just got JB so this is nothing new. Their focus is on selling new to market units, not throwing money at upgrading the OS on already sold units.
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Guess you never owned a new RAZR. ICS took forever and JB is a pipe dream. The new RAZR M just got JB so this is nothing new. Their focus is on selling new to market units, not throwing money at upgrading the OS on already sold units.
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Funny thing is the S3 is still Verizon's best phone and well continue to be for now. Putting JB on it will just help sell more units as well as keep current customers happy.
Unfortunately Verizon does not care about keeping customers happy as long as they continue to hit their numbers every quarter.
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Funny thing is the S3 is still Verizon's best phone and well continue to be for now. Putting JB on it will just help sell more units as well as keep current customers happy.
Unfortunately Verizon does not care about keeping customers happy as long as they continue to hit their numbers every quarter.
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Thats because Verizon prefers to push their "Droid" branded phones IMO.
They will eventually have to release a JB update. I'm just hoping source doesn't take too long to drop after it.
Samsung Galaxy S3
I'm really really really hoping I'm wrong but based on Verizon's history, I'm not holding out hope that we will see JellyBean on our GS3s anytime soon.
Take for example the Galaxy Nexus, by all logic the Verizon version should have gotten JB update at the same time as the GSM version.
However from what I understand(I don't own one) the GSM Nexus got the JB update the last week of June (~27th), while Verizon Nexus owners didn't receive it till Sept 27th, almost 2 months later.
Even if you argue that it takes a little longer to create CDMA/LTE-JB compared to a GSM/LTE-JB that doesn't account for the 2 month time lag. Not when you have access to all of the source code and hardware roadmaps the Samsung does.
In fact, I don't think it has anything to do with Samsung at all. According to what I've recently read, Sprint GS3's are getting JB starting tomorrow.
That means Samsung has already created an acceptable Official CDMA/LTE-JB update that has already been vetted by Sprint that is set to start being pushed out tomorrow with absolutely no evidence of one even existing for Verizon(not even a whiff of a leak or anything)
I don't know why it takes so long, but I do know that it seems like Verizon never gets anything first, in fact they usually get everything last(not counting T-mobile)
At this point I've stopped checking the forum. I'm just hopping that I'll wake up one morning and see an update notification on my phone.
Rumor has it Sprint might be getting OTA JB update starting tomorrow. If that is true, way to go Sprint. That is how updates should roll out.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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Funny thing is the S3 is still Verizon's best phone and well continue to be for now. Putting JB on it will just help sell more units as well as keep current customers happy.
Unfortunately Verizon does not care about keeping customers happy as long as they continue to hit their numbers every quarter.
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Putting JB on it won't sell more units. Most people don't know the difference and couldn't tell you the difference if they did a side by side comparison.
Google created this monster when it decided to make it open source with little control over how it's utilized. Apple devices cost more to the carrier and the carrier has little to no input on how the phone functions.
Apple made face time open for use over data where before it was wifi only. What did the carriers do, cry and get over it. Apple introduces imessage which circumvents regular texting lowering revenue from text messaging. What do the carriers do? Nada. Had it been android it wouldn't make it to our devices because they have no control over it. They release the OS, manufacturer builds it to the phones specs and then it's sent off to the carrier for bloating and restricting. Verizon is a service provider they have no business diddling around in an operating system.
Verizon as a customer centric business does have a great customer service. They're more responsive than most other carriers. However, they are in the business to make money and they want to maintain control of the very devices that could either make or break them. We phone enthusiasts are just a drop in the bucket to the millions of other customers that don't care what version OS their phone is on.
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RCITNet said:
Guess you never owned a new RAZR. ICS took forever and JB is a pipe dream. The new RAZR M just got JB so this is nothing new. Their focus is on selling new to market units, not throwing money at upgrading the OS on already sold units.
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This is what draws people to Apple though. They should take a lesson if they want to compete on the long-term.
I'll never, ever, buy another Motorola phone again. They come out with a new phone every other month, and drop support entirely for their existing phones.
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Rumor has it Sprint might be getting OTA JB update starting tomorrow. If that is true, way to go Sprint. That is how updates should roll out.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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Sprint is pretty good about updates but sometimes they are to quick on the draw. The S2 had some serious issues with one of the updates that would cause it to hard brick.
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EmmVeePee said:
This is what draws people to Apple though. They should take a lesson if they want to compete on the long-term.
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Dude you are wrong.
Most people don't know about & don't care about JB. Only the fanatics(ie people on XDA, me included) care one way or the other what version of Android is running on their phone.
This is even more true for IOS users. If OEMs didn't push updates to phones OTA most phones would never get updated. There are plenty of people who have there phones set up pretty much exactly the way it was coming out of the box.
I'd argue that your average Android user is a little bit more savvy about customizing his experience but mostly because there are more options, not necessarily because they are more tech savvy. Overall that average user isn't significantly more advanced than an average IOS user.
You would be surprised how many people purchase phones based on either the salesman's advice or the advice of a friend.
All of the talk of specs, fragmentation, OS updates is purely for the phone geek crowd.
Probably 1% of people are going to make their decision based on update version.
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Rumor has it Sprint might be getting OTA JB update starting tomorrow. If that is true, way to go Sprint. That is how updates should roll out.
Guess we will see tomorrow.
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I would much rather be on Verizons network running ICS as opposed to Sprints with JellyBean...I need service more than timely updates. We will get a update, until then im perfectly content with what development is currently active on this device. we dont need jellybean source to get the ril perfected anyway. all we need is a dev like jt1134 that wrote the mtd filesystem for the fascinate and hacked the ril to near perfection...he also was the main reason cm7 ever made it to the fascinate. That device barely got a gingerbread ota and that didnt happen till way after cm7 was released. point is, support your devs folks! they are the ones that will keep this device up to date after the carriers drop it. I never log on to xda for news on ota updates...things are so much different now than it use to be here and there is alot less dense information in these forums. Now 1 in 3 threads is about ota or root...lol
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I would much rather be on Verizons network running ICS as opposed to Sprints with JellyBean...I need service more than timely updates. We will get a update, until then im perfectly content with what development is currently active on this device. we dont need jellybean source to get the ril perfected anyway. all we need is a dev like jt1134 that wrote the mtd filesystem for the fascinate and hacked the ril to near perfection...he also was the main reason cm7 ever made it to the fascinate. That device barely got a gingerbread ota and that didnt happen till way after cm7 was released. point is, support your devs folks! they are the ones that will keep this device up to date after the carriers drop it. I never log on to xda for news on ota updates...things are so much different now than it use to be here and there is alot less dense information in these forums. Now 1 in 3 threads is about ota or root...lol
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I never said I would rather be on Sprint. I left Sprint about 8 months ago after being with them for 15 years. I am just saying I am pretty surprised to see this update come out so quick for them. Would have guessed we would have seen it on AT&T or T-Mobile first. Whether you like Sprint or not is irrelevant, I do think it is kind of cool to see JB released already for them though. It shows that there head is in the right place.
To be honest, if Verizon's network was not leaps and bounds better then others I do not even think the company would exist right now. Choosing to lock bootloaders, blocking apps like Google Wallet, worst data plans, the slowest updates ever and basically not caring about what the customer wants does not sound to enticing. Once the other providers catch up they better start to change their tude or they will begin to see a huge decline in numbers.
I do think Sprint really f'd up and now they are trying to be the good guy. While their network was going to the ****ter instead of giving their customers reasons to stay they continued to remove features at a rapid pace. They removed the Premier program, removed discounts from any line but the first, raised their ETF fee, raised their insurance prices and I am sure I am missing a few other things. Maybe now they are realizing with a network as ****ty as theirs they need reasons to actually keep customers and not scare them away.