Dead Doubleshot means new phone for me. - T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide

Well guys... after months of having random screen failures whenever I'd slide the phone open it went faded, washed out looking and then the screen failed. So... I have moved on to the Samsung Galaxy Relay 4g. I still will monitor this forum because I like the community and all but my Doubleshot is no more Maybe I'll fix it sometime but for now I'm going to immerse into the Relay. Thank all of this community and the developers for making that phone amazing.
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If you decide not to fix it anymore care to sell it?
I would be interested to buy it for a reasonable price since I need another one for hardware hacking stuffs

Relay is basically a doubleshot with nfc, so if there was somthing to move to that's it.
nfc will redefine your android life, can find a thread i'm participating in in the verizon S3 sub-forum if curious.

+1, I wouldn't mind buying it either. Could be useful for parts...
Send me or riyal a PM if you're interested
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Blue6IX said:
Relay is basically a doubleshot with nfc, so if there was somthing to move to that's it.
nfc will redefine your android life, can find a thread i'm participating in in the verizon S3 sub-forum if curious.
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Also I don't think relay has it's own section till now. Do you know by chance where they're posting stuffs for relay 4g? And is development already active on that device?

In the g2 general section you will find the most info on the relay, so far it has root and clockwork, looks like it won't be long until it has its own section and developers creating custom roms. None yet that I know of but it is being worked on by a few
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Riyal said:
Also I don't think relay has it's own section till now. Do you know by chance where they're posting stuffs for relay 4g? And is development already active on that device?
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It usually takes a year or so for a device to pick up development steam. Unless all the G2 devs decide to jump ship all at once
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gtmaster303 said:
It usually takes a year or so for a device to pick up development steam. Unless all the G2 devs decide to jump ship all at once
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Not really. The Sony Xperia 2012 line of devices got it's own forum before it was even released.

Riyal said:
Not really. The Sony Xperia 2012 line of devices got it's own forum before it was even released.
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Just because the forum has been started doesn't mean there's anything worthwhile going on...
What I meant to say was it takes a while to build up choices for roms, kernels, mods, etc. Not all the dev work happens at once.
Worthwhile mods usually come later in the device age. Especially if there aren't that many devs on board yet

gtmaster303 said:
Just because the forum has been started doesn't mean there's anything worthwhile going on...
What I meant to say was it takes a while to build up choices for roms, kernels, mods, etc. Not all the dev work happens at once.
Worthwhile mods usually come later in the device age. Especially if there aren't that many devs on board yet
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That seems familiar...
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That seems familiar...
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Which makes me want to buy one.
I don't really feel like devving for my S3 because every time i've needed to do something it's already been done.
At the point where every day I have to defer the OTA because I havent felt like figuring out how to disable it. (It's rooted with a cwm, so OTA won't install, but it nags me to install daily.)
I mean I got root, eliminated some bloat, tweaked a couple settings here and there as I have been going through it, then installed cwm to block the OTA, but my motivation to do anything to it is non-existent. Just feels like it's all been done before.
Not that i've had a lot of time recently, but mostly all of it has been spent on the doubleshot.
The other one is a popular phone that's been out for a while. There really aren't a lot of dev challenges to awaken the device and free it from the manufacturer/carrier lockdown.
I'm definitely not done with learning how to get around that aspect of smart phone existence, and the way htc and t-mobile burned us on the doubleshot still presents a lot of learning opportunities. In the future when I do upgrade from the doubleshot to a new device i'll hit the ground running and just do what I want from the device launch. Learned (and learning!) the process of what's needed from launch to full custom ROM has been very enlightening on the doubleshot thus far.
The packet-switching technique baked into the HTC kernel was epic. When I found that drifting through source, and then tracked down all it's pieces and got to see the puzzle put together - well damn.
The relay being a samsung makes it instantly more dev accessible, truthfully the carrier is the biggest roadblock to freely devving on the device. You can pull on a larger pool of knowledge across xda for beating that then combined with manufacturer hindrances deliberately placed at the level htc employs.
Between what i've owned and what i've experienced, the quality of the physical device from HTC is the highest on the market. From a dev standpoint, that is the most important factor in my opinion. The thought is that we can fix software issues, but are stuck with hardware problems.
(to that end my education is leading me further into hardware and building computers chip by chip - got a raspberry pi and stuff like that to explore now...but a subject of another discussion)
HTC needs to make the next evolution of the doubleshot. Quad core S4 with at least 2 gigs of ram and a better keyboard then this one. Goodbye genius button, hello search button, and get rid of the damn question mark as a primary key. NFC capable. TV out mandatory. I'd be on it at full retail price for 3 of them at launch day. 2 for me, one for my lady - so one for me to dev on and one to use.
The relay is almost it...but i've got no desire to move from the doubleshot to it, just not enough more to justify it. I'll probably buy one in a few months secondhand to dev on so I can participate in the next solid hardware keyboard device while we wait for the generation after to have one.
When the doubleshot devs and relay devs upgrade to the generation after hardware keyboard device, we are gonna own it. All the other people floating around out there who skipped the doubleshot/relay keyboard phones and miss their G2 will want another one like it. Predicting the future is never an exact science, but what I see in culture and trend gives me that feeling.
My biggest gripe about the S3 is losing all of the hardware keyboard shortcuts. NFC offsets that a little bit, but it destroys a significant asset in navigating and using android fluently and quickly. Tapping your way to something you can just tap a two-button sequence for is like a school zone dumped on a 70 m.p.h. speed limit road.
If another hardware keyboard device doesn't come out by a year from now, then the relay will be the upgrade when I decide my doubleshot needs NFC. Otherwise i'm probably going to bang on the next one at launch.

So far I am really impressed... I will be rooting probably tomorrow before the debate lol. And yes... I will sell the Doubleshot for parts when I decide not to fix it, a decision I've already basically made. So far... the ONLY thing I miss is my flashaholic fix lol. My Relay is nice.
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I'm pretty sure it isn't, but is the physical home button also a directional pad?
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No it isn't and I have been missing my optical trackpad some too lol. I had grown accustomed to it.
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Galaxy S 4G, Should I keep it?

Hi Guys I recently bought this phone that I like overall. Recently i have been running out of space on the internal memory. I am really not here to bring down the hopes of anyone on this phone but I want a real honest answer since I have spent 500.00 on this phone and still have one more day to exchange it.
Do you think i should exchange this phone for a G2? Should solve the Internal memory issue. Dev seems to be very active and I am hoping to keep this phone for at least a year if not more so i will be probably rooting and customizing this phone with new ROMS. Galaxy S 4g is also my first Android phone and I know is newer than G2 but not sure if it's actually better .
So your advised and thoughts are greatly appreciate it since tomorrow I will be making my final decision wether to keep this one or not.
So my questions is should i exchange this phone taking in consideration that I will be keeping for at least a year and also will be hoping to add new ROMS and rooting. Also need a phone with good battery life and snappy.
Any other input/thoughts/ideas that i might have missed would be also appreciate it and thanks for helping me choose wisely.
I think you should keep the phone. Just doing the fota fix gives me 400mb+ free internal memory and i bet there might be a way to free up even more space. I think 400mb is A LOT of space, just transfer all the app you can onto the SD card and you will never have momory issues.
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Thanks for you answer Icy56. Anyone else has any other opinion?
If you really want to be able to really experience xda and what an android phone can really do, at this point, your g2 idea is the way to go. Found myself in the EXACT predicamant your in myself less than a week ago. Got a brand new 4g, thinking it would be all that and a bag of chips after having a vibrant and seeing how great the galaxy s phones can be when there is an active community. You gotta be honest with yourself (if for no other reason than the five hundred dollars involved) about this ever happening with the 4g.
Its not a next generation or a must have upgrade phone, ESPECIALLY from a dev standpoint, so while the community around this phone will get a bit more active, it will never explode because its not a major release phone, not to mention touchjizz makes devs lives hell from what I gather.
If you like the phone the way it is, by all means keep it, its a beautiful phone. But if you want to really experience what all your android friends have been talking about with custom roms and such, jump ship.
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Thanks man for you honest answer. Any one else got an opinion?
If you really want to be able to really experience xda and what an android phone can really do, at this point, your g2 idea is the way to go. Found myself in the EXACT predicamant your in myself less than a week ago. Got a brand new 4g, thinking it would be all that and a bag of chips after having a vibrant and seeing how great the galaxy s phones can be when there is an active community. You gotta be honest with yourself (if for no other reason than the five hundred dollars involved) about this ever happening with the 4g.
Its not a next generation or a must have upgrade phone, ESPECIALLY from a dev standpoint, so while the community around this phone will get a bit more active, it will never explode because its not a major release phone, not to mention touchjizz makes devs lives hell from what I gather.
If you like the phone the way it is, by all means keep it, its a beautiful phone. But if you want to really experience what all your android friends have been talking about with custom roms and such, jump ship.
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So did you exchanged it for a HTC G2? (HTC Vision)
How do you like it? Can you do Mobile Tethering on it?
moshe22 said:
Thanks for you answer Icy56. Anyone else has any other opinion?
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Hell no, you shouldn't keep it! You should send it to me immediately.
Thanks for you answer Icy56. Anyone else has any other opinion?
Hell no, you shouldn't keep it! You should send it to me immediately.
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Lol, Hopefully one day I can have the wealth to make people happy and give phones away.
The G2 has a keyboard... Why is this tech still produced adding weight size and increased chance of hinge breaking when Swype and touch screens are FAR superior... My 2 cents
Galaxy S 4G
If you spent $500 on the phone. I'd trade it for the G2X if it's within your 30 day period. I wouldn't trade it for the G2.
I think in California is 30 day period. In Minnesota where I live is only 14 days.
Well, Thanks guys for your answers.
I have decided to keep my Galaxy S 4G. Hope to have great conversations about this phone.
Welcome aboard. I'm sure you'll enjoy some Roms once they come out.
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Thanks man.
I am sure that I will enjoy the custom roms.
Hope to be of help as well.
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I think it's a good ideal to keep it. Just follow the guys in the dev section and pray that custom roms come along sooner than later.
Not really 2 cents, but the way I got mine was actually by selling a modded HTC HD2 I was using, and basically got this phone for 50$ when it was all said and done.. yet i got that much for my HD2.. lol
Anyhow, MY plan is to hold onto this until the HTC pyramid or Galaxy S 2 come out, those are my next jump ship phones. And additionally..
With the experience I had with this phone.. I got it maybe a few weeks after it came out.. Frankly I learned from that, I plan to wait at least a few months before I decide which phone to jump ship to, rather than get it right away.. that way I'll REALLY know which one is better.

G2X Against The World: Crack Flashers Will Appreciate.

The Sensation is not what you want.This device may fall under the category with the Droid X and the Atrix. There is barely any support for either device. I suggest you ride it out with the G2X because support and roms will come in a bundle sooner or later. The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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charlieb620 said:
The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I am too. Ill have to see what happens.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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The atrix is motorola's flagship phone as well.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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Yep and look at it now.
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mapin0518 said:
If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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DeezNotes said:
Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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No because the only reason the THunderbolt was unlocked was because of a leaked old ROM that wasn't locked down. Total luck.
I just came from an atrix and there is one dev cooking roms. (He has two). While they were both awesome its not a whole lot...we have more development here in two weeks then they had in 3 months. The atrix has more ram which is its only advantage....I always had like 700 mb ram available.....so for me the extra ram didn't benefit me. I was tempted to get the nexus s due to it being pure google but the fact that its a samsung phone (had alot of problems with galaxy s) and with dual core phones coming out I figured I would skip it. The g2x is what the nexus s should have shipped with. Dual core tegra.
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Motorola was a big name in Android because of the $100MM in marketing they and Verizon spent to put Android on the map with the "Droid does" campaign. Once HTC and Samsung got with the program Motorola's market share has been steadily declining. They're also primarily a North American player where Samsung and HTC are global. Both the SGS2 and Sensation will each individually sell more units than the entire Motorola Android product line. Spec wise the Atrix is a good comparison but sales and acceptance wise not so much. I at least give them credit for going back to the drawing board on the Bionic rather than launching what would have been an already dated phone.
Assuming all future Samsung and HTC phones are based off the internals of the SGS2 and Sensation, the impact of what you're saying is devs are going to stop working on Samsung and HTC phones. I find that hard to accept. Especially when the SGS2 and Sensation (and their derivatives) are expected to sell in the millions of units. Only time will tell.

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Is it just me or is there a complete lack of development for roms and themes with not only ics beta builds, but any other roms whether its tw or aosp . Has source for gingerbread or ics been released? Im recieving a free droid charge from work and i was lookin forward to getting a verizon phone comin frm At&T Desire HD but i see theres less development here. Does verizon usually lock all of their bootloaders to where source wont be released? Maybe i shoulda picked the Thunderbolt? Im new to verizon srry guys
There was a lot more development with FE version. The GB source just got released 2 weeks ago. So it's early. The main reason AOSP isn't available is because the RIL(Samsung) hasn't been released. And it probably won't because it isn't required.
But with the release of the Nexus and its very similar radio(google) and it's RIL there is hope that ICS will come out. Imnuts has stated that he will look into development. I don't want to overstate his position so I'll let him say what he wants if he decides to here.
Development isn't as robust on some phones. But I believe we will have a Renaissance period soon with GB source released and the Nexus software.
And one should remember any development is done on their time and sacrifice. We should maintain a patient attitude. Complaining doesn't help our cause. 1 complaint is no big deal but add that to a few other vocal folks and people get mad and stop releasing their software.
i kno that they have lives outside of this but i was just sharing what i noticed. Im prob gonna join development for porting after i finish my army IT training.
thanks bro for answering my question
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i kno that they have lives outside of this but i was just sharing what i noticed. Im prob gonna join development for porting after i finish my army IT training.
thanks bro for answering my question
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I would call my post a cautious attempt to answer your question from the info I learned reading from the more educated folks here about this stuff mixed in with MHO. So other responses may come that help shed light on your question.
That would be great if you could join an help out the community. I know I nothing more than a leecher. With the explosion of android based phones I wished I had learned all about linux.
But anyway, development isn't totally dead. Just slow right now. I think(hope) it will pick back up with the new releases out.
This thread is beating a dead horse. If you would bother searching you would find many threads and posts asking the same thing. Even if development had stopped, there are plenty of options to make your phone fast and stable.
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I just hope this is a troll...
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No longer the hot phone, that's all
I have been unable to find sales statistics by model, but even though the Charge is one of Verizon's more favored 4G phones, it is not the most interesting or performant phone out there now, if it ever was. Anyone in the market for a new high-end phone is likely waiting for the Galaxy Nexus, they are not likely to commit to a Charge at this point.
The folks who are most enthusiastic and productive in creating new ROMs and kernels have probably moved on to other phones. Not that there aren't still some great folks still working on the Charge, there are, but much of the herd has migrated elsewhere.
I have no inside knowledge, I don't know any of these people, I just know how developers tend to behave.
Sorry about all this, as others have pointed out, you still have options to make it a quite adequate phone.
Myself, I have come to the conclusion that Verizon's 4G is overrated - when it's good, it's great, but I am on 3G much of the time even though I live and work in metropolitan Boston.
My $.02
Yeah, faster internet speeds are overrated -_-
The point is I'm not paying for it. I won't even be in a contract. My job is giving me this phone for free and very heavily discount my plan. When I leave for the army in May and quit my job I have now, I have to give it back and switch my plan to a consumer contract plan if I wanna stay with vzw. I only had a choice of the charge, thunderbolt,and stratosphere. I ain't pick the thunderbolt bcuz my att inspire is the same thing and development is popping and on fire over there. Also picked charge over thunderbolt is bcuz of a 1600mAh battery vs 1400mAh in the thunderbolt
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Plus the the GPU processor in the charge is better than in the thunderbolt and my inspire. I wont buy the vzw nexus or the galaxy s3 until I finish army basic training cuz I can't have a phone anyway during that time anyway. I would have to leave it home until I get out
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I find it strange that people don't recognize how great the Charge hardware is. People think its a bad phone without spending any time optimizing it.
I for one think the Charge is the best single-core phone you can get. I personally feel that dual-core phones are largely a marketing ploy.
Multi-core is undoubtedly the future of phones, however, for most tasks its unnecessary.
To me it sounds like most of the whiners are just gamers who want more FPS for their gaming sessions. If you take the time to learn how to optimize the phone, its tough to beat the Charge.
Some things don't matter to some people such as the audio hub.
Wake me up when you find a better phone that has the Wolfson DAC, SAMOLED+, and 4G on Verizon.
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I personally feel that dual-core phones are largely a marketing ploy. Multi-core is undoubtedly the future of phones, however, for most tasks its unnecessary.
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This is simply not true, and dual-core is not a marketing ploy. Spend some time using a dual-core phone as a daily driver -- there's a substantial, noticeable difference in OS performance, for everything from just opening apps to multitasking, and anyone who says otherwise is either lying or intentionally deluding themselves.
I just don't understand why people find it so hard to accept that in 7-8 months, even the best phone will no longer be the best. That's just how technology works, whether it's a phone or computer.
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
If you like it, buy it. It provides the manufacturers the funding to make new great products.
It's hard to hear anything but whining on threads like these.
If you are too lazy to learn to modify and optimize your phone, so then either provide reasoning to back up your argument or go back to playing your video games.
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I would say this is the best single core LTE phone on Verizon. It has the best screen, the best processor/GPU, biggest battery, hot-swappable SD/SIM, hardware android buttons.. I've had and used a Thunderbolt, a Revolution and now the Charge and this phone is significantly better than those.
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The point is I'm not paying for it. I won't even be in a contract. My job is giving me this phone for free and very heavily discount my plan. When I leave for the army in May and quit my job I have now, I have to give it back and switch my plan to a consumer contract plan if I wanna stay with vzw. I only had a choice of the charge, thunderbolt,and stratosphere. I ain't pick the thunderbolt bcuz my att inspire is the same thing and development is popping and on fire over there. Also picked charge over thunderbolt is bcuz of a 1600mAh battery vs 1400mAh in the thunderbolt
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Even with the development in place, the Charge is still a better choice over the TBolt or Stratosphere.
P.S. Infinity has been running great for me as a GB ROM, there are a few themes out for it now. Plus, I'm real confident that we're going to get ICS to run on the Charge. I can't say it will happen within a week or even a month, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. And at that point, you can bet we'll see AOSP ICS, CM9, and a slew of other ICS ROMs to hold us over until we all ***** and moan about getting Jelly Bean to work!
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Even with the development in place, the Charge is still a better choice over the TBolt or Stratosphere.
P.S. Infinity has been running great for me as a GB ROM, there are a few themes out for it now. Plus, I'm real confident that we're going to get ICS to run on the Charge. I can't say it will happen within a week or even a month, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. And at that point, you can bet we'll see AOSP ICS, CM9, and a slew of other ICS ROMs to hold us over until we all ***** and moan about getting Jelly Bean to work!
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True that lol
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Newbie needs help
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
Hi, I just bought a Charge and am new with android phone, could you please help and let me know where I should start? What is the best rom to get and how do I get started, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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mc999 said:
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
Hi, I just bought a Charge and am new with android phone, could you please help and let me know where I should start? What is the best rom to get and how do I get started, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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My personal opinion....
Start here...
Download Odin 3
Odin 3 - program to install roms & other phone stuff
Download the usb driver for windows
Windows USB Driver
Good simple rom to get going.
[ODIN][ALL IN ONE][EP4D] Gingerbread 2.3.6 W/Root/CWR/IMO Kernel 4.0
Good daily driver rom
[ROM][ODIN][CWR][EP4P] Humble 5.0 RC2 Gingerbread 2.3.6 11-9-2011
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advice please
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
If you like it, buy it. It provides the manufacturers the funding to make new great products.
It's hard to hear anything but whining on threads like these.
If you are too lazy to learn to modify and optimize your phone, so then either provide reasoning to back up your argument or go back to playing your video games.
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Hi xdadevnube, I'm interested to know what firmware/mod are you using for your Charge, and how to best twig it. I just got a Charge myself, new with android phone rooting. Thanks.
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well.
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Apples to oranges, dude. Fair comparisons would be a stock Droid Charge to a stock Nexus/RAZR or a heavily modified Charge to a heavily modified Nexus/RAZR.
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Note got run over... time for a new device, how is the HOX development, active?

So, my note got run over, and I have an upgrade available... so I think I am going to use it on a new device. I hate the lag with the S3 chip in the note, so I want to go with either the galaxy s3 or the HOX. The HOX is a bargain right now, at $99, and seems hard to resist. BUT, I hate hate hate bloatware, inlcuding sense and touchwiz. So whichever I choose, has to have an active developement community... particularly AOSP, and even better - cyanogenmod. Is this device getting attention from CM developers for CM9 and 10 or is activity slowly dying down now that the galaxy S3 is out?
First thing you should do is take a peak in the Development section and judge for yourself, seems pretty simple because it is that simple.
Development has been held back because of kernel source but that was all just released this past week and things are actually picking up quite nicely. I won't explain any further because 30 seconds in the Development section will open your eyes better than my writing can.
loudog3114 said:
So, my note got run over, and I have an upgrade available... so I think I am going to use it on a new device. I hate the lag with the S3 chip in the note, so I want to go with either the galaxy s3 or the HOX. The HOX is a bargain right now, at $99, and seems hard to resist. BUT, I hate hate hate bloatware, inlcuding sense and touchwiz. So whichever I choose, has to have an active developement community... particularly AOSP, and even better - cyanogenmod. Is this device getting attention from CM developers for CM9 and 10 or is activity slowly dying down now that the galaxy S3 is out?
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Just like above. Check out development section. There is cm10 being worked on as I type this. Seems really good from what I see. I think you will be happy.
SeNt FrOm A nOcTuRnAl'D one X!
The S3 has a lot going for it, but it's no contest on which has the superior screen, especially with outside viewing. That to me is the biggest differentiator. Development should pick up now that the source (for 4.0.3 anyways) is out.
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The development community is moving forward here. I personally would choose the One X over the SGS3 every time, but that's just my opinion.
My HOX has been Nocturnal'd. Has yours?
Yeah just as others have mentioned, it took a bit before kernel source was released, but even then we had quite stable CM9/AOKP builds, and extremely nice sense ROMs. But now that source is finally out I think we can expect lots of future development, with Jelly Bean builds of CM10 and AOKP out before too long I'd imagine, and custom kernels already being released. Both are really great phones but IMO especially for $99, I'd definitely take the HOX over the SG3.
If you were going to.make the decision based only on the development progress made on a device we all have to be honest in saying the s3 is the clear choice considering we just got source. But as far which device I rather own and live with I have to say one x. But you'll there's plenty of threads comparing the device if you search the forums.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1541
There we did all the hard work for you. If you live in California I can come by and do some of your laundry for you too.
Cm10 is running great on my s3 however there is about a 3sec lag when taking a picture, I can deal with it
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This phone has good hardware the software is fine too but right now all development is either into a stock rom with different features or some built that mostly work. I say wait before flashing anything too major I have had so many small issues that are because of things not being updated on OP or just too many pages or the developer themselves or sudo developer just releasing things they have no idea what they do. Just hold a while and give it some time to flourish. I would root and unlock the bootloader now and just sit pretty.
Really wish I had gotten a Galaxy Nexus instead of this phone tired of messing with phones to have a working good rom.
I Had s3 along with htc one x. But screen of s3 sucks when compared to htc one x especially under direct sunlight. If You compare both phones screen side by side u will understand the difference. But if ur ok with super amoled screen then go with s3 because always having extra ram is good
Slcd on htc one x kicks s3 ass
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Comes down to this:
Hox>SgsIII any day
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This phone has good hardware the software is fine too but right now all development is either into a stock rom with different features or some built that mostly work. I say wait before flashing anything too major I have had so many small issues that are because of things not being updated on OP or just too many pages or the developer themselves or sudo developer just releasing things they have no idea what they do. Just hold a while and give it some time to flourish. I would root and unlock the bootloader now and just sit pretty.
Really wish I had gotten a Galaxy Nexus instead of this phone tired of messing with phones to have a working good rom.
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So you're blaming developers for mistakes you've probably made?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So you're blaming developers for mistakes you've probably made?
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Or being too lazy to read and figure out what's what.
Seriously, these are custom ROMs by people who donate their time and energy. And they're free. It takes time to find the bugs and work them out.
Some people shouldn't flash anything...
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no idea what they do? Your kidding me right? Totally agree with the two posts above mine. The developers are great and work hours for us to benefit from their work. For you to say that don't know what they are doing is complete crap lol
SeNt FrOm A nOcTuRnAl'D one X!
I also really like the idea of just getting a nexus device, but the hardware just doesnt even compare any more... the 5mp camera would be a real killer. A co worker of mine has the galaxy nexus and while, hardware wise, it falls way short... the end user UI experience is flawless.
Well, I took the plunge. Time to start hacking. One another note, holy **** is this thing snappy. The S4 makes a HUGE difference.
loudog3114 said:
Well, I took the plunge. Time to start hacking. One another note, holy **** is this thing snappy. The S4 makes a HUGE difference.
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I sold my Note to get the One X and I don't regret that decision.
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Well, I took the plunge. Time to start hacking. One another note, holy **** is this thing snappy. The S4 makes a HUGE difference.
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Thats the first thing i noticed. I saw the note and got stocked on it then a few months later when i had my upgrade available i saw the one x and was amazed at how smooth it was.
SoberGuy said:
Or being too lazy to read and figure out what's what.
Seriously, these are custom ROMs by people who donate their time and energy. And they're free. It takes time to find the bugs and work them out.
Some people shouldn't flash anything...
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I did not blame any developer in my post and thanks for assuming I do not know how to read. I know how to read very well and have been modding and messing with devices since I was a child. What I am referring to is more than one post in which the supposed developer or person just relaying what they found does not know anything about what they are doing and posting things they " think work " I have no problem in testing things for a developer and letting them know and I have in fact donated to developers that work on the One X specifically.
I just have run into at least since I have had my one X where I have flashed a file to say add something for sound that messed up the video because the actual OP did not seem to understand what his flash was doing.
But I guess I will stop posting if giving advice on development and my opinion on the current situation rubs you the wrong way..

The next step. Where do we go?

So.. I've been looking around. It's time for me to jump off credo mobile and go back to sprint. I fine to this forum because I honestly believe you all have the best idea of support in understanding hardware and software.
In thus, what is your next step from the shift? Sounds line the Motorola photon became a fail.. HTC evo 4g lte, maybe somewhat old now.. And the HTC one along with s4 is just around the bend.. However.. No qwerty keyboard.
So... Where do you all stand? I've had sine thoughts recently on thinking the scoffed... Iphone5 recently since jail breaking and video quality is good (audio in particular).
So yeah.. Thoughts?
PS: I still mid my shift.. However the s2 recently struck awesome with the black bean ROM
Cheers!
Sent with pride from my Baked Black Bean E4GT SPH-710.
konichwa said:
So.. I've been looking around. It's time for me to jump off credo mobile and go back to sprint. I fine to this forum because I honestly believe you all have the best idea of support in understanding hardware and software.
In thus, what is your next step from the shift? Sounds line the Motorola photon became a fail.. HTC evo 4g lte, maybe somewhat old now.. And the HTC one along with s4 is just around the bend.. However.. No qwerty keyboard.
So... Where do you all stand? I've had sine thoughts recently on thinking the scoffed... Iphone5 recently since jail breaking and video quality is good (audio in particular).
So yeah.. Thoughts?
PS: I still mid my shift.. However the s2 recently struck awesome with the black bean ROM
Cheers!
Sent with pride from my Baked Black Bean E4GT SPH-710.
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Im loving my lte.
The one and s4 are good, but I honestly dont feel they're worth the upgrade from what I have.
I'd wait a little longer to see what both companies are going to offer.
There's been rumors of a one-like phone coming to sprint with 2gigs of ram and sd slot.
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Wow... This sold me.. The one sounds amazing.
http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-distortion-free-recording/
If I didn't have to switch and I owned a 4g lte, I would do the same as you Jesus. However I'm switching providers back top sprint and taking 75 for my galaxy s2.
2gb memory cache! Yes its true.. Holy macro! Its almost like running a laptop in you're hand.. Pretty darn close.
Other good reviews on CNET that didn't seem very embellished. Though they do seem more sided with htc..lol.. Especially with well the seeking imagery.. For a tech head anyhow. Haha
The gs4 has way too big of a screen for me.. S2 was borderline enough.. Lol 4.7 vs 5 inch from HTC one and galaxy s4. Plus HTC makes way better builds
http://m.cnet.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s4/35627724
http://m.cnet.com/reviews/htc-one/35616143
Only thing is.. I wonder how break proof the glass is
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I bit the bullet yesterday and went to Metropcs. Upgraded from my beloved Evo Shift and got an LG Motion. I wasn't that impressed with the Spirit and it just didn't feel right in my hands.
at this point id just hold off and see whats announced at google i\o in may, might be wiser to just wait and get a new nexus phone with key lime pie*, whats a couple more months
(*rumored)
Im wondering if Google now owns Motorola, what that might mean for the Photon Q and the droids. Maybe they'll let us unlock the bootloaders and have a party.
I've been a mobile qwerty man since the awesome palm pure with webOS, but sometime around last year my flex cable went out on my shift and have learned to enjoy the virtual keyboard and swipe.
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SwiftKey all the way
CNexus said:
SwiftKey all the way
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You think swift is better then android's version of the swipe 4.2 KB? Not sure myself... Tried both and I'm on Android one currently
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Actually the KB in 4.2.2 is really good...the only issue I see with it (imo anyway) is that you can't longpress on the keys to put in numbers or symbols
Pretty sweet otherwise, but same...it's a pretty close call
The color and texture of it is also really nice
HTC One sounds promising now...
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...rs/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content=FaceBook
I've waited when the LTE and S3 came out. Now it's time for the S4 and the One. I cannot wait anymore. I need a new device. And after comparing specs, features, and reviews I've decided that I'll go for the HTC One. It's not as gimmicky as the Samsung and way better quality.
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I like the One a lot. I'm still on the fence though. I also like the Nexus 4 quite a bit.
Chad The Pathfinder said:
I like the One a lot. I'm still on the fence though. I also like the Nexus 4 quite a bit.
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I'd go with the Nexus...reading through the posts over in the M7 forums, there seem to be a lot of physical issues with the device...may just be the first couple batches that were manufactured, but at least with a nexus device, root is as easy as using fastboot
But the One they need to get S-OFF because htcdev.com is the only option right now
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I'd go with the Nexus...reading through the posts over in the M7 forums, there seem to be a lot of physical issues with the device...may just be the first couple batches that were manufactured, but at least with a nexus device, root is as easy as using fastboot
But the One they need to get S-OFF because htcdev.com is the only option right now
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Plus you have to see it like this, with HTC your going to lose a lot of features running AOSP. Its shipped with Sense for a reason :banghead:
To some that's not a big deal, but to most it will be, because we all know it will release with an outdated Android version. Not only that, its outdated due to bugs.
With a Nexus device the only way to go is up, since the only proprietary thing is MPdecision and that's released in our ota updates. Which comes just a day or so after the ota rollout. So we gain a lot, BUT don't have the option for skinned ROMs.
I look at it like this, if your going to run Sense only (and HTC has dealt with security leaks) then the One would be a great device. But if your not running Sense, get a device AOSP was built for so you don't have all the tiny bugs that will be present.
I remember back when ALL I would run on my speedy was Sense, because AOSP was buggy with MMS/camera/video etc. So I hated it, even on my DS I hated CM because it was buggy.......but my Nexus really opened my eyes.
End of rant lol
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strapped365 said:
Plus you have to see it like this, with HTC your going to lose a lot of features running AOSP. Its shipped with Sense for a reason :banghead:
To some that's not a big deal, but to most it will be, because we all know it will release with an outdated Android version. Not only that, its outdated due to bugs.
With a Nexus device the only way to go is up, since the only proprietary thing is MPdecision and that's released in our ota updates. Which comes just a day or so after the ota rollout. So we gain a lot, BUT don't have the option for skinned ROMs.
I look at it like this, if your going to run Sense only (and HTC has dealt with security leaks) then the One would be a great device. But if your not running Sense, get a device AOSP was built for so you don't have all the tiny bugs that will be present.
I remember back when ALL I would run on my speedy was Sense, because AOSP was buggy with MMS/camera/video etc. So I hated it, even on my DS I hated CM because it was buggy.......but my Nexus really opened my eyes.
End of rant lol
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Well if you're looking at AOSP you gotta look at the dev support too, even if it wasn't built for AOSP and there is a lot of devs working on it the bugs will get hammered out... that was the problem with devices like the Shift. Now the s3 and Note 2 have a ton of devs but you also gotta deal with a ton of Noobs. I personally miss the small community here but having more devs is definitely a plus... but dang even with the s2 I feel like I'm always behind with what is going on. The bigger communities ate a little intimidating after being here for two years. And I know the Nexus 4 community is HUGE.
bilgerryan said:
Well if you're looking at AOSP you gotta look at the dev support too, even if it wasn't built for AOSP and there is a lot of devs working on it the bugs will get hammered out... that was the problem with devices like the Shift. Now the s3 and Note 2 have a ton of devs but you also gotta deal with a ton of Noobs. I personally miss the small community here but having more devs is definitely a plus... but dang even with the s2 I feel like I'm always behind with what is going on. The bigger communities ate a little intimidating after being here for two years. And I know the Nexus 4 community is HUGE.
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Yeah today is the most I've been on xda in a few days. I've shut down my strapped gmail, and everything. I'm stepping completely back and putting things in order in my life, that's another reason I couldn't chose HTC, to many bugs/updates to work out. I have no need to ever update from what I have because its flawless....I love my Nexus
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strapped365 said:
Yeah today is the most I've been on xda in a few days. I've shut down my strapped gmail, and everything. I'm stepping completely back and putting things in order in my life, that's another reason I couldn't chose HTC, to many bugs/updates to work out. I have no need to ever update from what I have because its flawless....I love my Nexus
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I had to do that about a month ago. I've been using SuperNexus a lot which is basically what is on the N4 with some added support for extras but damn it flies. I saw an idiot spouting crap about it because he broke the back cuz it fell out of his pocket... I was like why do you think they make cases? People are dumb.
bilgerryan said:
I had to do that about a month ago. I've been using SuperNexus a lot which is basically what is on the N4 with some added support for extras but damn it flies. I saw an idiot spouting crap about it because he broke the back cuz it fell out of his pocket... I was like why do you think they make cases? People are dumb.
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Yeah he's a moron! What kind of person buys an all glass phone and rocks its naked?....(granted I just stepped out to my parents and left one case, but I have a backup in my car). And expects it to stay flawless..
Sent from my Nexus 4
With sprint though the options are either the One, S4, G Pro. No nexus devices. And out of them it's either the One or G Pro. And I dunno much about the G Pro atm and I really want a new device. Lol
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And switching carriers is a no no. I used 38gbs or so this month. ^_^ Lololol.
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