Note got run over... time for a new device, how is the HOX development, active? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

So, my note got run over, and I have an upgrade available... so I think I am going to use it on a new device. I hate the lag with the S3 chip in the note, so I want to go with either the galaxy s3 or the HOX. The HOX is a bargain right now, at $99, and seems hard to resist. BUT, I hate hate hate bloatware, inlcuding sense and touchwiz. So whichever I choose, has to have an active developement community... particularly AOSP, and even better - cyanogenmod. Is this device getting attention from CM developers for CM9 and 10 or is activity slowly dying down now that the galaxy S3 is out?

First thing you should do is take a peak in the Development section and judge for yourself, seems pretty simple because it is that simple.
Development has been held back because of kernel source but that was all just released this past week and things are actually picking up quite nicely. I won't explain any further because 30 seconds in the Development section will open your eyes better than my writing can.

loudog3114 said:
So, my note got run over, and I have an upgrade available... so I think I am going to use it on a new device. I hate the lag with the S3 chip in the note, so I want to go with either the galaxy s3 or the HOX. The HOX is a bargain right now, at $99, and seems hard to resist. BUT, I hate hate hate bloatware, inlcuding sense and touchwiz. So whichever I choose, has to have an active developement community... particularly AOSP, and even better - cyanogenmod. Is this device getting attention from CM developers for CM9 and 10 or is activity slowly dying down now that the galaxy S3 is out?
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Just like above. Check out development section. There is cm10 being worked on as I type this. Seems really good from what I see. I think you will be happy.
SeNt FrOm A nOcTuRnAl'D one X!

The S3 has a lot going for it, but it's no contest on which has the superior screen, especially with outside viewing. That to me is the biggest differentiator. Development should pick up now that the source (for 4.0.3 anyways) is out.
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The development community is moving forward here. I personally would choose the One X over the SGS3 every time, but that's just my opinion.
My HOX has been Nocturnal'd. Has yours?

Yeah just as others have mentioned, it took a bit before kernel source was released, but even then we had quite stable CM9/AOKP builds, and extremely nice sense ROMs. But now that source is finally out I think we can expect lots of future development, with Jelly Bean builds of CM10 and AOKP out before too long I'd imagine, and custom kernels already being released. Both are really great phones but IMO especially for $99, I'd definitely take the HOX over the SG3.

If you were going to.make the decision based only on the development progress made on a device we all have to be honest in saying the s3 is the clear choice considering we just got source. But as far which device I rather own and live with I have to say one x. But you'll there's plenty of threads comparing the device if you search the forums.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1541
There we did all the hard work for you. If you live in California I can come by and do some of your laundry for you too.

Cm10 is running great on my s3 however there is about a 3sec lag when taking a picture, I can deal with it
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This phone has good hardware the software is fine too but right now all development is either into a stock rom with different features or some built that mostly work. I say wait before flashing anything too major I have had so many small issues that are because of things not being updated on OP or just too many pages or the developer themselves or sudo developer just releasing things they have no idea what they do. Just hold a while and give it some time to flourish. I would root and unlock the bootloader now and just sit pretty.
Really wish I had gotten a Galaxy Nexus instead of this phone tired of messing with phones to have a working good rom.

I Had s3 along with htc one x. But screen of s3 sucks when compared to htc one x especially under direct sunlight. If You compare both phones screen side by side u will understand the difference. But if ur ok with super amoled screen then go with s3 because always having extra ram is good
Slcd on htc one x kicks s3 ass
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Comes down to this:
Hox>SgsIII any day

mainecrab said:
This phone has good hardware the software is fine too but right now all development is either into a stock rom with different features or some built that mostly work. I say wait before flashing anything too major I have had so many small issues that are because of things not being updated on OP or just too many pages or the developer themselves or sudo developer just releasing things they have no idea what they do. Just hold a while and give it some time to flourish. I would root and unlock the bootloader now and just sit pretty.
Really wish I had gotten a Galaxy Nexus instead of this phone tired of messing with phones to have a working good rom.
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So you're blaming developers for mistakes you've probably made?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So you're blaming developers for mistakes you've probably made?
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Or being too lazy to read and figure out what's what.
Seriously, these are custom ROMs by people who donate their time and energy. And they're free. It takes time to find the bugs and work them out.
Some people shouldn't flash anything...
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no idea what they do? Your kidding me right? Totally agree with the two posts above mine. The developers are great and work hours for us to benefit from their work. For you to say that don't know what they are doing is complete crap lol
SeNt FrOm A nOcTuRnAl'D one X!

I also really like the idea of just getting a nexus device, but the hardware just doesnt even compare any more... the 5mp camera would be a real killer. A co worker of mine has the galaxy nexus and while, hardware wise, it falls way short... the end user UI experience is flawless.

Well, I took the plunge. Time to start hacking. One another note, holy **** is this thing snappy. The S4 makes a HUGE difference.

loudog3114 said:
Well, I took the plunge. Time to start hacking. One another note, holy **** is this thing snappy. The S4 makes a HUGE difference.
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I sold my Note to get the One X and I don't regret that decision.
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loudog3114 said:
Well, I took the plunge. Time to start hacking. One another note, holy **** is this thing snappy. The S4 makes a HUGE difference.
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Thats the first thing i noticed. I saw the note and got stocked on it then a few months later when i had my upgrade available i saw the one x and was amazed at how smooth it was.

SoberGuy said:
Or being too lazy to read and figure out what's what.
Seriously, these are custom ROMs by people who donate their time and energy. And they're free. It takes time to find the bugs and work them out.
Some people shouldn't flash anything...
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I did not blame any developer in my post and thanks for assuming I do not know how to read. I know how to read very well and have been modding and messing with devices since I was a child. What I am referring to is more than one post in which the supposed developer or person just relaying what they found does not know anything about what they are doing and posting things they " think work " I have no problem in testing things for a developer and letting them know and I have in fact donated to developers that work on the One X specifically.
I just have run into at least since I have had my one X where I have flashed a file to say add something for sound that messed up the video because the actual OP did not seem to understand what his flash was doing.
But I guess I will stop posting if giving advice on development and my opinion on the current situation rubs you the wrong way..

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[Q] One S Development

Hello guys, i'm in love with the One S, but i've been watching the forums lately, and the One S is receiving way less attention then the One X.
We have at least 3 big and great custom Roms for the One X, and i can't see any for the One S yet.
Do you guys think the One S android development is going to reach the One X sometime?
I want to know this, before i buy the phone, or else i'm getting a One X
One x doesn't have a bootable cyanogenmod..mainly sense roms. The desire HD took a while to kick in on dev side also..its preference
The only development missing is really cyanogenmod daily type and tool sets Modding battery etc.you won't be missing out on much.plus our battery's last longer and doesn't have the flex issue the first x stock has lol
It is slow bit but come onn...crap phones have active development...it will happen.
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One X counts as "Flagship" so more ppl buying it - more development. But I think after first few 2-3 month ppl will understand that S is as good as X, also I guess it wont be problem to take same roms from X and make them avaible for S.
Definetly not something what should affect your decision about what phone to buy. Choose which u like more, the development of roms will be good for both.
Maybe One S will get more attention after it gets released on Tmobile.
kolyan said:
Maybe One S will get more attention after it gets released on Tmobile.
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Exactly this phone is still yet to be released in some parts of the world. Maybe the best developers don't have the phone yet. It's early days so be patient
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Well, thank you, you guys have helped me alot. One more question, about the battery life on the One S, is it good? Can it be compared to the HTC Desire?
Once again, thanks!
Guizzoni said:
Well, thank you, you guys have helped me alot. One more question, about the battery life on the One S, is it good? Can it be compared to the HTC Desire?
Once again, thanks!
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The battery life is very god. I have about One and half day on battery with some surf, phonecalls and sync.
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much better then the desire and desire HD...I owned both
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I'm so happy that I opted for the S instead of the X. In my (humble) opinion, most people have been drawn to the Quad core of the X - but it seems the S is just as, if not more, powerful!
I think as people realise that the S is up there in the power ratings then development will pick up. I hope so, I miss having my Insertcoin\ARHD etc ROMs to choose from =D
raikesy said:
I'm so happy that I opted for the S instead of the X. In my (humble) opinion, most people have been drawn to the Quad core of the X - but it seems the S is just as, if not more, powerful!
I think as people realise that the S is up there in the power ratings then development will pick up. I hope so, I miss having my Insertcoin\ARHD etc ROMs to choose from =D
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Its not the Quad-core that stands out on X, its the 720p IPS SLCD2 display. Its the best on the market today. I havent seen One S in person, but usually SAMOLED displays suck big time, perhaps HTC done some calibration on this one to make it better.
I love the Amoled screen, I thought it was ace on the SGS.... I think its even better on the One S....
if someone doesnt like it, They tend to slate it, and that puts other people off... instead of just sayin 'personally its not for me, i prefer the xxxxxx screen' they rant and rave 'oh its **** dont waste your money'
and it gives it a bad reputation
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I love the Amoled screen, I thought it was ace on the SGS.... I think its even better on the One S....
if someone doesnt like it, They tend to slate it, and that puts other people off... instead of just sayin 'personally its not for me, i prefer the xxxxxx screen' they rant and rave 'oh its **** dont waste your money'
and it gives it a bad reputation
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all i know is that it was/is a disaster on Galaxy Nexus....and its 720p. I have IPS LG right now and colors are great, I had Vibrant also and it was so so.
Back on track of Development , I can't wait for S-OFF
Calm down azzle lol..I get what your saying though.I personally love the screen..didn't at first but messed around with the contrast now its lovely
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Got mine today and its sublime. I'm going to wait a while for root. But it's bound to happen. Just as it did and still is on the desire.
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Apparently lots os people are upgrading from the desire to this phone. Well, I just chose my next phone. It's going to be the HTC One S!
Now I just have to wait for the One S to launch in Brazil.
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I'm pretty sure the One s will get a lot of dev since its the same internationally unlike the one x/xl/evo 4g lte
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I won't buy a phone if I don't think there's going to be a good amount of development for it. That being said, I think the fact that its a global phone will help alot.
and its being announced by T-Mobile right now.
Stiflerlv said:
One X counts as "Flagship" so more ppl buying it - more development. But I think after first few 2-3 month ppl will understand that S is as good as X, also I guess it wont be problem to take same roms from X and make them avaible for S.
Definetly not something what should affect your decision about what phone to buy. Choose which u like more, the development of roms will be good for both.
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i also can't wait for s-off. the htc dev method isn't a choice for me.
I'm disappointed in the developers which decide blind for the one x. Sure it is the Flagship, but with years old manufacturing technique. nobody can say that a comparable 40nm manufactured cpu saves more energy that a 28nm manufactured one. faster sure, but a pockedheater^^
only one good dev for a rom and one for the kernel is enought for us. I love to flash costum roms, best two times a week^^ i miss it.
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i also can't wait for s-off. the htc dev method isn't a choice for me.
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Just curious, why is HTC Dev not a choice for you?

Trading my HOXL for Nexus

To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Android phones are hard to predict.
6 Months is half a product cycle of an iPhone.
The HTC One X(L) is a fantastic device. We don't even have Kernel Source yet and look at the development we've seen so far. Sit tight.
I think ISIS will be a huge fail and Google Wallet will be allowed eventually.
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.
Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.
kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
karan1203 said:
I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
bongd said:
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.
mikelebz said:
Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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Dead Doubleshot means new phone for me.

Well guys... after months of having random screen failures whenever I'd slide the phone open it went faded, washed out looking and then the screen failed. So... I have moved on to the Samsung Galaxy Relay 4g. I still will monitor this forum because I like the community and all but my Doubleshot is no more Maybe I'll fix it sometime but for now I'm going to immerse into the Relay. Thank all of this community and the developers for making that phone amazing.
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If you decide not to fix it anymore care to sell it?
I would be interested to buy it for a reasonable price since I need another one for hardware hacking stuffs
Relay is basically a doubleshot with nfc, so if there was somthing to move to that's it.
nfc will redefine your android life, can find a thread i'm participating in in the verizon S3 sub-forum if curious.
+1, I wouldn't mind buying it either. Could be useful for parts...
Send me or riyal a PM if you're interested
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Blue6IX said:
Relay is basically a doubleshot with nfc, so if there was somthing to move to that's it.
nfc will redefine your android life, can find a thread i'm participating in in the verizon S3 sub-forum if curious.
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Also I don't think relay has it's own section till now. Do you know by chance where they're posting stuffs for relay 4g? And is development already active on that device?
In the g2 general section you will find the most info on the relay, so far it has root and clockwork, looks like it won't be long until it has its own section and developers creating custom roms. None yet that I know of but it is being worked on by a few
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Riyal said:
Also I don't think relay has it's own section till now. Do you know by chance where they're posting stuffs for relay 4g? And is development already active on that device?
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It usually takes a year or so for a device to pick up development steam. Unless all the G2 devs decide to jump ship all at once
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gtmaster303 said:
It usually takes a year or so for a device to pick up development steam. Unless all the G2 devs decide to jump ship all at once
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Not really. The Sony Xperia 2012 line of devices got it's own forum before it was even released.
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Not really. The Sony Xperia 2012 line of devices got it's own forum before it was even released.
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Just because the forum has been started doesn't mean there's anything worthwhile going on...
What I meant to say was it takes a while to build up choices for roms, kernels, mods, etc. Not all the dev work happens at once.
Worthwhile mods usually come later in the device age. Especially if there aren't that many devs on board yet
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Just because the forum has been started doesn't mean there's anything worthwhile going on...
What I meant to say was it takes a while to build up choices for roms, kernels, mods, etc. Not all the dev work happens at once.
Worthwhile mods usually come later in the device age. Especially if there aren't that many devs on board yet
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That seems familiar...
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That seems familiar...
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Which makes me want to buy one.
I don't really feel like devving for my S3 because every time i've needed to do something it's already been done.
At the point where every day I have to defer the OTA because I havent felt like figuring out how to disable it. (It's rooted with a cwm, so OTA won't install, but it nags me to install daily.)
I mean I got root, eliminated some bloat, tweaked a couple settings here and there as I have been going through it, then installed cwm to block the OTA, but my motivation to do anything to it is non-existent. Just feels like it's all been done before.
Not that i've had a lot of time recently, but mostly all of it has been spent on the doubleshot.
The other one is a popular phone that's been out for a while. There really aren't a lot of dev challenges to awaken the device and free it from the manufacturer/carrier lockdown.
I'm definitely not done with learning how to get around that aspect of smart phone existence, and the way htc and t-mobile burned us on the doubleshot still presents a lot of learning opportunities. In the future when I do upgrade from the doubleshot to a new device i'll hit the ground running and just do what I want from the device launch. Learned (and learning!) the process of what's needed from launch to full custom ROM has been very enlightening on the doubleshot thus far.
The packet-switching technique baked into the HTC kernel was epic. When I found that drifting through source, and then tracked down all it's pieces and got to see the puzzle put together - well damn.
The relay being a samsung makes it instantly more dev accessible, truthfully the carrier is the biggest roadblock to freely devving on the device. You can pull on a larger pool of knowledge across xda for beating that then combined with manufacturer hindrances deliberately placed at the level htc employs.
Between what i've owned and what i've experienced, the quality of the physical device from HTC is the highest on the market. From a dev standpoint, that is the most important factor in my opinion. The thought is that we can fix software issues, but are stuck with hardware problems.
(to that end my education is leading me further into hardware and building computers chip by chip - got a raspberry pi and stuff like that to explore now...but a subject of another discussion)
HTC needs to make the next evolution of the doubleshot. Quad core S4 with at least 2 gigs of ram and a better keyboard then this one. Goodbye genius button, hello search button, and get rid of the damn question mark as a primary key. NFC capable. TV out mandatory. I'd be on it at full retail price for 3 of them at launch day. 2 for me, one for my lady - so one for me to dev on and one to use.
The relay is almost it...but i've got no desire to move from the doubleshot to it, just not enough more to justify it. I'll probably buy one in a few months secondhand to dev on so I can participate in the next solid hardware keyboard device while we wait for the generation after to have one.
When the doubleshot devs and relay devs upgrade to the generation after hardware keyboard device, we are gonna own it. All the other people floating around out there who skipped the doubleshot/relay keyboard phones and miss their G2 will want another one like it. Predicting the future is never an exact science, but what I see in culture and trend gives me that feeling.
My biggest gripe about the S3 is losing all of the hardware keyboard shortcuts. NFC offsets that a little bit, but it destroys a significant asset in navigating and using android fluently and quickly. Tapping your way to something you can just tap a two-button sequence for is like a school zone dumped on a 70 m.p.h. speed limit road.
If another hardware keyboard device doesn't come out by a year from now, then the relay will be the upgrade when I decide my doubleshot needs NFC. Otherwise i'm probably going to bang on the next one at launch.
So far I am really impressed... I will be rooting probably tomorrow before the debate lol. And yes... I will sell the Doubleshot for parts when I decide not to fix it, a decision I've already basically made. So far... the ONLY thing I miss is my flashaholic fix lol. My Relay is nice.
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I'm pretty sure it isn't, but is the physical home button also a directional pad?
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No it isn't and I have been missing my optical trackpad some too lol. I had grown accustomed to it.
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Is develooment dead for gs3

So it seems like gs3 is winding down abit was wonderi g if there are any new exciting phones coming out
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Yep, dead.
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So it seems like gs3 is winding down abit was wonderi g if there are any new exciting phones coming out
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LMAO!
Oh sorry, were you serious?
FYI, dev may "seem" stunted because everybody who is anybody is currently working on 4.2 in some method or another....
lol nah it was more of a sweet lets look to the future and if anyone had any good info on some up and coming phone to be released. Ive enjoyed the GS3 and it had some great development but it is starting to get old just wondering whats next
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lol nah it was more of a sweet lets look to the future and if anyone had any good info on some up and coming phone to be released. Ive enjoyed the GS3 and it had some great development but it is starting to get old just wondering whats next
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LOL, this thread actually made me laugh. Development is FAR from dead on the GS3, and won't be for a long time. There was still active (although slowed) development on my HTC Incredible two and half years after it released! There was even an official OTA for it from Verizon, more than 2 years after its release!
No, development for Galaxy S3 is not dead, not by a long shot. If your bored with your device and can afford to buy a new one out of pocket, the Galaxy Note II and and the HTC Droid DNA both look like solid devices. Otherwise, next spring will bring the Galaxy S4 and HTC's successor to the One X.
Not sure what you mean by dead
I would say that development on this phone is booming. Probably the exact opposite of what you were thinking. I would think I am not committing hyperbole when saying that it is probably one of the most currently worked on and tweaked phones right now. just look at the forums if you don't believe us.
I would also venture and say without much hesitation that the SG3 is probably one of the best (fastest, biggest and nicest screens, 4g, etc) phones out until the SG4 comes out q1-2 next year.
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LOL, this thread actually made me laugh. Development is FAR from dead on the GS3, and won't be for a long time. There was still active (although slowed) development on my HTC Incredible two and half years after it released! There was even an official OTA for it from Verizon, more than 2 years after its release!
No, development for Galaxy S3 is not dead, not by a long shot. If your bored with your device and can afford to buy a new one out of pocket, the Galaxy Note II and and the HTC Droid DNA both look like solid devices. Otherwise, next spring will bring the Galaxy S4 and HTC's successor to the One X.
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Ya I have note 2 that's keeping me content for now still love my gs3 though but finally got bored with it I see a lot has slowed down cuz there hasn't been much of a to do list the phone has just about everything you could want.
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Ya I have note 2 that's keeping me content for now still love my gs3 though but finally got bored with it I see a lot has slowed down cuz there hasn't been much of a to do list the phone has just about everything you could want.
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no.
android 4.2 roms are releasing and becoming more stable everyday. the devs are just hard at work. just a slight lull in the action.
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no.
android 4.2 roms are releasing and becoming more stable everyday. the devs are just hard at work. just a slight lull in the action.
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What more could you want out of this phone lol

The next step. Where do we go?

So.. I've been looking around. It's time for me to jump off credo mobile and go back to sprint. I fine to this forum because I honestly believe you all have the best idea of support in understanding hardware and software.
In thus, what is your next step from the shift? Sounds line the Motorola photon became a fail.. HTC evo 4g lte, maybe somewhat old now.. And the HTC one along with s4 is just around the bend.. However.. No qwerty keyboard.
So... Where do you all stand? I've had sine thoughts recently on thinking the scoffed... Iphone5 recently since jail breaking and video quality is good (audio in particular).
So yeah.. Thoughts?
PS: I still mid my shift.. However the s2 recently struck awesome with the black bean ROM
Cheers!
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konichwa said:
So.. I've been looking around. It's time for me to jump off credo mobile and go back to sprint. I fine to this forum because I honestly believe you all have the best idea of support in understanding hardware and software.
In thus, what is your next step from the shift? Sounds line the Motorola photon became a fail.. HTC evo 4g lte, maybe somewhat old now.. And the HTC one along with s4 is just around the bend.. However.. No qwerty keyboard.
So... Where do you all stand? I've had sine thoughts recently on thinking the scoffed... Iphone5 recently since jail breaking and video quality is good (audio in particular).
So yeah.. Thoughts?
PS: I still mid my shift.. However the s2 recently struck awesome with the black bean ROM
Cheers!
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Im loving my lte.
The one and s4 are good, but I honestly dont feel they're worth the upgrade from what I have.
I'd wait a little longer to see what both companies are going to offer.
There's been rumors of a one-like phone coming to sprint with 2gigs of ram and sd slot.
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Wow... This sold me.. The one sounds amazing.
http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-distortion-free-recording/
If I didn't have to switch and I owned a 4g lte, I would do the same as you Jesus. However I'm switching providers back top sprint and taking 75 for my galaxy s2.
2gb memory cache! Yes its true.. Holy macro! Its almost like running a laptop in you're hand.. Pretty darn close.
Other good reviews on CNET that didn't seem very embellished. Though they do seem more sided with htc..lol.. Especially with well the seeking imagery.. For a tech head anyhow. Haha
The gs4 has way too big of a screen for me.. S2 was borderline enough.. Lol 4.7 vs 5 inch from HTC one and galaxy s4. Plus HTC makes way better builds
http://m.cnet.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s4/35627724
http://m.cnet.com/reviews/htc-one/35616143
Only thing is.. I wonder how break proof the glass is
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I bit the bullet yesterday and went to Metropcs. Upgraded from my beloved Evo Shift and got an LG Motion. I wasn't that impressed with the Spirit and it just didn't feel right in my hands.
at this point id just hold off and see whats announced at google i\o in may, might be wiser to just wait and get a new nexus phone with key lime pie*, whats a couple more months
(*rumored)
Im wondering if Google now owns Motorola, what that might mean for the Photon Q and the droids. Maybe they'll let us unlock the bootloaders and have a party.
I've been a mobile qwerty man since the awesome palm pure with webOS, but sometime around last year my flex cable went out on my shift and have learned to enjoy the virtual keyboard and swipe.
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SwiftKey all the way
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SwiftKey all the way
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You think swift is better then android's version of the swipe 4.2 KB? Not sure myself... Tried both and I'm on Android one currently
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Actually the KB in 4.2.2 is really good...the only issue I see with it (imo anyway) is that you can't longpress on the keys to put in numbers or symbols
Pretty sweet otherwise, but same...it's a pretty close call
The color and texture of it is also really nice
HTC One sounds promising now...
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...rs/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content=FaceBook
I've waited when the LTE and S3 came out. Now it's time for the S4 and the One. I cannot wait anymore. I need a new device. And after comparing specs, features, and reviews I've decided that I'll go for the HTC One. It's not as gimmicky as the Samsung and way better quality.
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I like the One a lot. I'm still on the fence though. I also like the Nexus 4 quite a bit.
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I like the One a lot. I'm still on the fence though. I also like the Nexus 4 quite a bit.
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I'd go with the Nexus...reading through the posts over in the M7 forums, there seem to be a lot of physical issues with the device...may just be the first couple batches that were manufactured, but at least with a nexus device, root is as easy as using fastboot
But the One they need to get S-OFF because htcdev.com is the only option right now
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I'd go with the Nexus...reading through the posts over in the M7 forums, there seem to be a lot of physical issues with the device...may just be the first couple batches that were manufactured, but at least with a nexus device, root is as easy as using fastboot
But the One they need to get S-OFF because htcdev.com is the only option right now
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Plus you have to see it like this, with HTC your going to lose a lot of features running AOSP. Its shipped with Sense for a reason :banghead:
To some that's not a big deal, but to most it will be, because we all know it will release with an outdated Android version. Not only that, its outdated due to bugs.
With a Nexus device the only way to go is up, since the only proprietary thing is MPdecision and that's released in our ota updates. Which comes just a day or so after the ota rollout. So we gain a lot, BUT don't have the option for skinned ROMs.
I look at it like this, if your going to run Sense only (and HTC has dealt with security leaks) then the One would be a great device. But if your not running Sense, get a device AOSP was built for so you don't have all the tiny bugs that will be present.
I remember back when ALL I would run on my speedy was Sense, because AOSP was buggy with MMS/camera/video etc. So I hated it, even on my DS I hated CM because it was buggy.......but my Nexus really opened my eyes.
End of rant lol
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Plus you have to see it like this, with HTC your going to lose a lot of features running AOSP. Its shipped with Sense for a reason :banghead:
To some that's not a big deal, but to most it will be, because we all know it will release with an outdated Android version. Not only that, its outdated due to bugs.
With a Nexus device the only way to go is up, since the only proprietary thing is MPdecision and that's released in our ota updates. Which comes just a day or so after the ota rollout. So we gain a lot, BUT don't have the option for skinned ROMs.
I look at it like this, if your going to run Sense only (and HTC has dealt with security leaks) then the One would be a great device. But if your not running Sense, get a device AOSP was built for so you don't have all the tiny bugs that will be present.
I remember back when ALL I would run on my speedy was Sense, because AOSP was buggy with MMS/camera/video etc. So I hated it, even on my DS I hated CM because it was buggy.......but my Nexus really opened my eyes.
End of rant lol
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Well if you're looking at AOSP you gotta look at the dev support too, even if it wasn't built for AOSP and there is a lot of devs working on it the bugs will get hammered out... that was the problem with devices like the Shift. Now the s3 and Note 2 have a ton of devs but you also gotta deal with a ton of Noobs. I personally miss the small community here but having more devs is definitely a plus... but dang even with the s2 I feel like I'm always behind with what is going on. The bigger communities ate a little intimidating after being here for two years. And I know the Nexus 4 community is HUGE.
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Well if you're looking at AOSP you gotta look at the dev support too, even if it wasn't built for AOSP and there is a lot of devs working on it the bugs will get hammered out... that was the problem with devices like the Shift. Now the s3 and Note 2 have a ton of devs but you also gotta deal with a ton of Noobs. I personally miss the small community here but having more devs is definitely a plus... but dang even with the s2 I feel like I'm always behind with what is going on. The bigger communities ate a little intimidating after being here for two years. And I know the Nexus 4 community is HUGE.
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Yeah today is the most I've been on xda in a few days. I've shut down my strapped gmail, and everything. I'm stepping completely back and putting things in order in my life, that's another reason I couldn't chose HTC, to many bugs/updates to work out. I have no need to ever update from what I have because its flawless....I love my Nexus
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Yeah today is the most I've been on xda in a few days. I've shut down my strapped gmail, and everything. I'm stepping completely back and putting things in order in my life, that's another reason I couldn't chose HTC, to many bugs/updates to work out. I have no need to ever update from what I have because its flawless....I love my Nexus
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I had to do that about a month ago. I've been using SuperNexus a lot which is basically what is on the N4 with some added support for extras but damn it flies. I saw an idiot spouting crap about it because he broke the back cuz it fell out of his pocket... I was like why do you think they make cases? People are dumb.
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I had to do that about a month ago. I've been using SuperNexus a lot which is basically what is on the N4 with some added support for extras but damn it flies. I saw an idiot spouting crap about it because he broke the back cuz it fell out of his pocket... I was like why do you think they make cases? People are dumb.
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Yeah he's a moron! What kind of person buys an all glass phone and rocks its naked?....(granted I just stepped out to my parents and left one case, but I have a backup in my car). And expects it to stay flawless..
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With sprint though the options are either the One, S4, G Pro. No nexus devices. And out of them it's either the One or G Pro. And I dunno much about the G Pro atm and I really want a new device. Lol
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And switching carriers is a no no. I used 38gbs or so this month. ^_^ Lololol.
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