1-What is point of buying FULL HD tablet and most the apps are not optimize for it..(Like the IPAD 3 there are a few apps that are optimize )
2-What is the point, every time i go GOOGLE PLAY to buy an app ,it is not compatible with my devices.
{Almost 90% of EA games and 90% of GAMELOFT games are compatible with my devices.}
What else i'm i missing........
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This is the future of tablets along with 2gigs of ram like the Note 10.1. Eventually apps will be optimized for tablets and for higher res screens. Google has spoken out and said that they will focus on tablet apps optimization so its only a matter of time before most devs are on board. Yes many apps are not optimized for the FHD screen but I havent had any issues with all the apps Ive downloaded far and i already have about 150 apps installed. I dont know about you but I like knowing that my FHD screen tablet will still be valid in the coming years vs one with an aging lower res screen.
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Not to worry new technology often has a away of finding it's place.
dmoney94 said:
1-What is point of buying FULL HD tablet and most the apps are not optimize for it..(Like the IPAD 3 there are a few apps that are optimize )
2-What is the point, every time i go GOOGLE PLAY to buy an app ,it is not compatible with my devices.
{Almost 90% of EA games and 90% of GAMELOFT games are compatible with my devices.}
What else i'm i missing........
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Text, which is used on ebooks, web browse, several games etc. But if you have Infinity or FHD device, just go use non FHD device now. You will immediately notice blurriness on texts. My eyes are bad, but even then I noticed the difference on my old iPad 2 after 2 weeks of Infinity.
The problem is that everything is made for the Galaxy. And we know all that has a resolution that looks 10 years old compared to the TF700. Devs are too stupid or too lazy to figure out it's easier to downscale than upscale. (Evidently I mean those on Google Play and not the folks here, let's keep those two seperate.)
As for compatibility issues, developers are too lazy to add 'Transformer TF700" to that text file in the google play store that lists compatible devices. (How hard is it to do that when you add the Nexus 7?! Morons) Fact is all EA and Gameloft games work FINE on the TF700.
many apps/games which are shown as not compatible are working fine if you copy a titanium backup from your phone to the tab!
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The problem is that everything is made for the Galaxy. And we know all that has a resolution that looks 10 years old compared to the TF700. Devs are too stupid or too lazy to figure out it's easier to downscale than upscale. (Evidently I mean those on Google Play and not the folks here, let's keep those two seperate.)
As for compatibility issues, developers are too lazy to add 'Transformer TF700" to that text file in the google play store that lists compatible devices. (How hard is it to do that when you add the Nexus 7?! Morons) Fact is all EA and Gameloft games work FINE on the TF700.
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many apps/games which are shown as not compatible are working fine if you copy a titanium backup from your phone to the tab!
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When an app or games looks really promising, I'll always try side-loading from my Galaxy SII -- works more often than not. With Total Commander, you can just send over the raw apk file as well.
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I Blame Asus,they should call the Game developer and ask the why the game is not compatible with their device.
When Asphalt 7: Heat came out it wasn't compatible with the Nexus 7,but Google make sure that was compatible in a few days.
Asus is making Good Hardware but does really spend time on the software.....
I look at it this way:
I went through the same pain when Vista first came out, only it was software *AND* device drivers (for hardware). IOW, Been there, done that.
Yeah, it is annoying that some apps are not available for my Infinity. But, most are. And I am good with that.
As mentioned above, I'd rather be ahead of the curve in terms of hardware than behind it. Having used my Infinity for a couple of months now I could never use anything less than the resolution I am using on it on any other tablet.
What is the point of spending $500 or more on a tablet device and not getting Full HD?
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That's a good start! It's a really sad state of things that we just have a handful of tablet-optimized apps while iPad had thousands even before it's launch!
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That's a good start! It's a really sad state of things that we just have a handful of tablet-optimized apps while iPad had thousands even before it's launch!
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The ipad had the same problem as the tab with apps not going full screen, ALL apps should scale properly if it was coded right ie: angry birds looks amazing on the tab and its not even a HD version
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The ipad had the same problem as the tab with apps not going full screen, ALL apps should scale properly if it was coded right ie: angry birds looks amazing on the tab and its not even a HD version
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Yea, there is a workaround on iPad to make iPhone apps run fullscreen just like we have spare parts! However, I was talking about iPad-specific/optimized apps which are way more way high in number and quality than the ones on the Tab!
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Yea, there is a workaround on iPad to make iPhone apps run fullscreen just like we have spare parts! However, I was talking about iPad-specific/optimized apps which are way more way high in number and quality than the ones on the Tab!
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It has been out for almost a year tho, after honeycomb is released the market will be flooded with apps. Remember that there are only a handful of android devices running a 7inch+ screen
Games:
Can Knockdown
Crusade of Destiny
Gun Bros
Dink HD (Dink Smallwood)
Dungeon Defenders
Those are what I have on my tab right now, but there were others I didn't keep.
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I thought this was about maintaining a list of apps optimized for Tab? Are there actually Tablet optimized versions of all those apps in the OP?
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I thought this was about maintaining a list of apps optimized for Tab? Are there actually Tablet optimized versions of all those apps in the OP?
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That's why I titled this "compatible & optimized"
I don't think there would be any apps that would be not compatible per-say! It's running Froyo after all and the only issue apps may have, is about scaling which can be taken care of by Spare Parts!
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I don't think there would be any apps that would be not compatible per-say! It's running Froyo after all and the only issue apps may have, is about scaling which can be taken care of by Spare Parts!
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Just because an app works in full screen doesn't mean its compatible. There are a lot of apps that have full screen graphics issues or not all button commands are on point. The purpose of the list is to show the apps that work well on the tab, just install and that's it, no mods. Not to mention there are plenty of apps that don't work well with the galaxy line regardless of 2.2. If you don't like the thread you have the ability to start your own.
Fring
lookout
batterytime
engadget
xda
chrome to phone
speedtest
mirien
dolphin hd
pinball does not work even with the spare parts tweak
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ive yet to encounter an app that dosnt work, and i pretty much install 500 apps a day lol
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ive yet to encounter an app that dosnt work, and i pretty much install 500 apps a day lol
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Agree with you. I have tried hundreds of apps, and they all work fine!
It'd be more usefull to list apps that DO NOT work fine on the tab
I recently got the 7.0 plus as a late Christmas gift. I like the size of the tablet because it is nice and light and goes everywhere. However, I have a few cons that I am wondering if they are deal breakers for me.
The first is the lack of games that can be played on the 7.0 plus. I don't want my tablet to play games all the time but I was hoping to be able to play a few games (like riptide or asphalt6) and this tablet cannot play those types of games.
The second is that some tablet apps don't work on this device and I would guess that is because of the 7 inch size. I was hoping to mainly use the device to read news, magazines and books. I do not care too much about videos because I have a laptop that can handle all HD videos I throw at it.
I'm stuck between size, weight and portability versus games and proper apps. Does anyone know how the Thrive, Transformer or Samsung 8.9 tablet handle these things?
Thanks for any help
Have you tried Chainfire? This may allow you to play the games you mentioned. As far as the other apps are concerned, you may want to contact the developers. They may just need to update the app so it recognizes the 7.0 Plus as a tablet.
Keep in mind, this tablet is relatively new, and my guess is, many issues like this will be resolved in due time.
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Have you tried Chainfire? This may allow you to play the games you mentioned. As far as the other apps are concerned, you may want to contact the developers. They may just need to update the app so it recognizes the 7.0 Plus as a tablet.
Keep in mind, this tablet is relatively new, and my guess is, many issues like this will be resolved in due time.
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Agreed chainfire is about your only option right now. With that said the exynos chips are very very good....just give it some more time for the dev community to pick up.
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I second what the posters above have already said. Chainfire 3D will allow you to play those games for now, but with time these games will be updated to work with the 7.0 Plus. The same goes for the tablet apps.
To answer your second question, the 8.9, (since it is Tegra 2) can handle everything you have discussed in your post, and it is closest in size to the 7.0 Plus of all of the tablets you have mentioned. If you like the portability of the 7.0 Plus, a move to the Transformer or the Thrive, (especially the Thrive as it is so thick,) will feel a good deal less portable.
My advice, (for what it's worth) would be to get chainfire3D for now to play the games and then stop using it or even get rid of it once the games have been updated for your tablet. The tablet apps will be updated, it will just take a few more weeks. (I seriously doubt it would take more than 3 more weeks for developers to update their apps.) I hope this helps. Have fun with your tablet.
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I recently got the 7.0 plus as a late Christmas gift. I like the size of the tablet because it is nice and light and goes everywhere. However, I have a few cons that I am wondering if they are deal breakers for me.
The first is the lack of games that can be played on the 7.0 plus. I don't want my tablet to play games all the time but I was hoping to be able to play a few games (like riptide or asphalt6) and this tablet cannot play those types of games.
The second is that some tablet apps don't work on this device and I would guess that is because of the 7 inch size. I was hoping to mainly use the device to read news, magazines and books. I do not care too much about videos because I have a laptop that can handle all HD videos I throw at it.
I'm stuck between size, weight and portability versus games and proper apps. Does anyone know how the Thrive, Transformer or Samsung 8.9 tablet handle these things?
Thanks for any help
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HUH? Riptide works great even without chainfire. Asphalt 6 on the other hand is fairly new and still doesn't support our tablet officially. But there are some workarounds with that. (thanks to chrisrotolo for teaching me )
Well, I haven't really found any tablet optimized app that doesn't work on the GTab+. I think it is compatible with our device but maybe it's not available on your country?
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I recently got the 7.0 plus as a late Christmas gift. I like the size of the tablet because it is nice and light and goes everywhere. However, I have a few cons that I am wondering if they are deal breakers for me.
The first is the lack of games that can be played on the 7.0 plus. I don't want my tablet to play games all the time but I was hoping to be able to play a few games (like riptide or asphalt6) and this tablet cannot play those types of games.
The second is that some tablet apps don't work on this device and I would guess that is because of the 7 inch size. I was hoping to mainly use the device to read news, magazines and books. I do not care too much about videos because I have a laptop that can handle all HD videos I throw at it.
I'm stuck between size, weight and portability versus games and proper apps. Does anyone know how the Thrive, Transformer or Samsung 8.9 tablet handle these things?
Thanks for any help
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I was messing around with the dpi and find if you change it to 132 if the app has a tablet optimized version it will show properly on the tab. Try it with the IMDB app you'll see what I mean.
Thanks for the responses guys! I tried riptide and it FC'd. I'm in America and the apps I was talking about is thinks like CNN Tablet Edition cannot even be installed. It says it does not recognize my device.
I will have to try chainfire and see how it works! Thanks again for the help
Actually, can anyone help me so I can get the games to work?
Hey guys,
So here's my dilemma. I was thinking of getting a netbook for professional purposes (word, mindmapping software and possibily vintage gaming) but I've com to the conclusion that most netbooks pretty much suck hardware-wise (can't even do HD video <.<).
So I took a look at both the Transformers, and with their keyboard dock they seemed like a perfect choice, for their size and usability.
However, the vintage gaming I'm looking for (that I'm willing to throw away at this point) was only available for Windows (mostly). So being that I'm possibly opting for an Android "tablet-book" I'm still wondering this:
Are the rumors that Windows 8 will be ARM-compatible and possbily will work on the Transformer Prime? If so I might get one. If not I'll possibly go for the original transformer. But that leaves me with another question:
Except for the quad-core is the difference from the Tegra2 to the Tegra3 really steep in terms of performance?
Thanks in advance,
K.
Dont hold your breath for windows 8. The rumor says its only going to be sold pre-installed on devices, and not available for download to other devices. And since it isnt open source, porting it to other devices would be quite tricky, and also piss microsoft off.
The Prime is faster, no doubt. But is it enough to justify the price differences? I dont think so.
The tegra2 can not handle 1080p movies. The prime struggles with them as well but can play most of them.
But in whole, it sounds like a tablet wont satisfy your needs, unless you got access to a windows PC you can use through remote desktop all the time.
A tablet can not replace a laptop/pc yet. They arent ment for that. Once win8 tablets start to mature, that might change. But that might take years.
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Dont hold your breath for windows 8. The rumor says its only going to be sold pre-installed on devices, and not available for download to other devices. And since it isnt open source, porting it to other devices would be quite tricky, and also piss microsoft off.
The Prime is faster, no doubt. But is it enough to justify the price differences? I dont think so.
The tegra2 can not handle 1080p movies. The prime struggles with them as well but can play most of them.
But in whole, it sounds like a tablet wont satisfy your needs, unless you got access to a windows PC you can use through remote desktop all the time.
A tablet can not replace a laptop/pc yet. They arent ment for that. Once win8 tablets start to mature, that might change. But that might take years.
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Before anything thanks for the reply, every input is useful
The point is, I don't need it to substitute my desktop PC (I have a gaming rig, it would be impossible xD), I do need it to be able to work on documents on the go, read stuff, and browse the web like it was a netbook, but without sacrificing the abitity to watch video like I would have on a netbook.
In terms of gaming I only really need it to run all Android games flawlessly
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In terms of gaming I only really need it to run all Android games flawlessly
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That wont happen, for several reasons;
Gameloft, which has a big amount of good games, hardly supports the Transformers, forcing us to find the games by other means.
A lot of games is only coded for crappy phones with their low-res screens, making them unplayable on a tablet with a larger resolution.
If you want an android device that can play the majority of the games available, you're better of getting a high-end phone ... its a sad world we're living in...
That said, there is a lot of games available, but some takes a lot of time to find.
One example is Order & Chaos... It took me 2 weeks before I actually found a version that works on the TF101, and once gameloft decides to update the game - who knows how long it will take before it will work again.
We have a thread here that lists the gameloft games currently known to work on our TF101's. The list itself isnt updated in quite a while, but the last few pages lists some more games.
I think the Prime forum got a similar thread.
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That wont happen, for several reasons;
Gameloft, which has a big amount of good games, hardly supports the Transformers, forcing us to find the games by other means.
A lot of games is only coded for crappy phones with their low-res screens, making them unplayable on a tablet with a larger resolution.
If you want an android device that can play the majority of the games available, you're better of getting a high-end phone ... its a sad world we're living in...
That said, there is a lot of games available, but some takes a lot of time to find.
One example is Order & Chaos... It took me 2 weeks before I actually found a version that works on the TF101, and once gameloft decides to update the game - who knows how long it will take before it will work again.
We have a thread here that lists the gameloft games currently known to work on our TF101's. The list itself isnt updated in quite a while, but the last few pages lists some more games.
I think the Prime forum got a similar thread.
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Thanks for the advice again
But honestly I don't play Gameloft stuff because I hate their shanenigans of making crappy coded games that don't even work the same on two phones with the same hardware.
I'm talking more about many of the indie games that have been popping up on the Market from Osmos HD, to Avadon and Canabalt among many others.
Its a hard choice but if you want gps and great wifi the original tf is the choice.
Documents on the go no problems for me.
If you root and use custom roms and overclock the performance difference at the moment does not justify the price.
Gaming thats a hard one some might say games dont work or hd games are usually released for the prime etc etc. But for me i play ps1 n64 gameboy etc with a ps3 controller on my tf101 i also play sims freeplay and a load of other games that i got direct from the market. You may not get all games but i think the best part of say 4-5 hundred games would be enough for anyone.
The ability to hook it up to the tv and play ps1 games with opengl (makes the old graphics look way better) alone makes it worth loving my android tablet.
Also when i had to decide between netbook and android tablet the winner for me was the tf101 because i can get 18hrs battery life most netbooks i have seen are lucky to last 6.
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I can watch videos fine on my transformer (I'm not really an avid video watcher who can ONLY watch things in super super HD, seriously, 720 is really good on a screen this small). My tablet is very useful because I mostly browse, read pdfs, and take notes. Sadly, I find that I'm using the keyboard less and less, since the only time I really use it is when I have to type up reports, and latex works better with a bigger screen so I don't even use the keyboard much then..
Does anyone encounters an issue where the app doesn't support the increased resolution provided by the tablet? I was just reading a cNet review and an example given was the marvel comics app. I'm not really interested in using the tablet for productivity. It's more of media consumption device and playing simple games like plants vs zombies.
And I won't buy tegra games as that locks me in. Thanks
Most of the apps that aren't supported, will work if they are sideloaded. They will not be high resolution though, and may not scale properly.
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Most of the apps that aren't supported, will work if they are sideloaded. They will not be high resolution though, and may not scale properly.
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since 1920x1200 is not common (I've only seen 3 tablets using it), does that mean most apps won't display it properly? just somehow doubt devs will be updating their apps for something that is not common.
Yes, some apps will not display like should, but most of them will work. Some devs are working on updating their apps, but the majority still use low resolution displays.
Since most devs only make their apps for phones any HD tablet will have issues with the resolution. Most of them are also too stupid/lazy/arrogant to use proper scaling..
I especially 'love' the idiots who make an app for the iPad, and then convert it for android, and the android app doesn't support higher resolutions than a crappy 720....
Lots of disappointing crapplications in Google Play or Amazon apps.
Me usually tries to stick to HD versions like Office Pro HD.
Try searching "HD" in play...you'll get over 63000 app results.
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Thats OK said:
Lots of disappointing crapplications in Google Play or Amazon apps.
Me usually tries to stick to HD versions like Office Pro HD.
Try searching "HD" in play...you'll get over 63000 app results.
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just tried your suggestion and currently on page 6. Most of the search results are for wallpaper HD...
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just tried your suggestion and currently on page 6. Most of the search results are for wallpaper HD...
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Yup,
Wallpapers are easy to "develop" lol...
Sometimes when cruising the store the good app builders offer trial HD versions of the free versions.
Not most...a few do.
Back in June this year there was hardly anything HD wise.
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Was very interested in getting an infinity but this lack of apps that will use the resolution and the lack of apps with UI optimized for tablets is what's holding me back. try again next year I guess
Hey guys, ive just received brand new Asus memo pad as a Christmas present! The thing is I had my Samsung galaxy s3 for quite some time and I really enjoyed it but since both of these systems are operating on android, I cannot seem but feel like I got something that I already have... I know the screen is bigger and it has a lilac more RAM and not to mention Quad core processor! Even my 3 year old laptop has dual core and I have no idea where the heck in the tablet you can use such a processor...
So my question is... is there any awesome stuff that I could use my tablet for, which I cannot use my phone with? And perhaps would it be possible to use some kind of software to boost my laptop's processor when connected to tablet??
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Hey guys, ive just received brand new Asus memo pad as a Christmas present! The thing is I had my Samsung galaxy s3 for quite some time and I really enjoyed it but since both of these systems are operating on android, I cannot seem but feel like I got something that I already have... I know the screen is bigger and it has a lilac more RAM and not to mention Quad core processor! Even my 3 year old laptop has dual core and I have no idea where the heck in the tablet you can use such a processor...
So my question is... is there any awesome stuff that I could use my tablet for, which I cannot use my phone with?
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Well basically you can enjoy playing games and watch videos even more on a tablet than on a phone.. And those apps that are optimized for Tablets only will take up your entire screen and make use of that by using it to display more texts and information.. And also there are some apps that are for Tablets only - so you can use them too.. And I think that's pretty much it..
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And perhaps would it be possible to use some kind of software to boost my laptop's processor when connected to tablet??
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I don't really think that's possible...
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Well basically you can enjoy playing games and watch videos even more on a tablet than on a phone.. And those apps that are optimized for Tablets only will take up your entire screen and make use of that by using it to display more texts and information.. And also there are some apps that are for Tablets only - so you can use them too.. And I think that's pretty much it
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Thanks for the reply, since you've mentioned that there are some appsnthat can only run on tablets, I was wondering could you actually name a few?
list of good tablet specific apps
as far as i get your query it is in relation to the abilities of a tablet as compared to a phone
a phone can do anything your tablet can do...but a tablet cant do the same
but.....
1. it has got a bigger screen size so better multimedia experience
2. in my experience a phone screen no matter how big (read less than 6 inches) always feels a bit cramped even when compared to a tablet with a 7 inch screen
3. you've got some great apps out there that look and feel better on tablets than phones
eg. office suite, netflix, kingsoft office, trulia
you wanted to know something you can do with a quad core processor
try these on a quad core and a dual core. you'll get to know the difference pretty fast-
mass effect, modern combat, real football, the dark knight, browsing the internet, watching shows and movies online etc etc
there's a lot to do on tablets
carry one to conferences. believe me it is better to use a tab in a conference than a phone
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you wanted to know something you can do with a quad core processor
try these on a quad core and a dual core. you'll get to know the difference pretty fast-
mass effect, modern combat, real football, the dark knight, browsing the internet, watching shows and movies online etc etc
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All these things you've mentioned are PC GAMES... I don't have a quad core PC even tho I wish, what I want to know is what the heck can I do with quad core ON THE TABLET!
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All these things you've mentioned are PC GAMES... I don't have a quad core PC even tho I wish, what I want to know is what the heck can I do with quad core ON THE TABLET!
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Dude, I don't mean to sound rude or anything but go search Google play for these apps... They are available on Android phones and tablets but I find the experience much better on tablets than phones.. That's what I've been trying to tell you
Not just these you'll find many more apps and great games on Google play just like these with great gaming experience and awesome graphics!!!
I tried...
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Dude, I don't mean to sound rude or anything but go search Google play for these apps... They are available on Android phones and tablets but I find the experience much better on tablets than phones.. That's what I've been trying to tell you
Not just these you'll find many more apps and great games on Google play just like these with great gaming experience and awesome graphics!!!
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I have tried but all of these apps are not found on the google play store...
hmmmm...strange
it may be an issue of compatibility. go to www.play.google.com log in there and find these kinda apps. go to the install option, if these apps are compatible with your device you'll be able to send a link to the device. if not, then you can always find an apk here and there and then install them
but remember to pay for them, RESPECT DEVELOPERS ALWAYS
by the way, here and there refers to other app store for eg the amazon app store
good luck with the app hunting
Tarun
if you can boost your laptop's performance with your tablet, then you should join Microsoft or intel, that should be some parallel computing technology enjoy you tablet with some fantastic games, i guess