The title said it all...i want to take the mots beautiful pictures possible, and i experience imo some diferent quality depending on wich rom i used .
Maybe someone had an aswer for me...
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audiogab said:
The title said it all...i want to take the mots beautiful pictures possible, and i experience imo some diferent quality depending on wich rom i used .
Maybe someone had an aswer for me...
Thanks
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If you install sense based roms the camera is much better compared to cm10 or asop roms
All sense based roms, the camera is better
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Camera appears to function as stock camera running ViperX
Although I prefer the ui of the sense camera, the cm camera still seems to produce similar quality images. At least I don't notice a difference.
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Although I prefer the ui of the sense camera, the cm camera still seems to produce similar quality images. At least I don't notice a difference.
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That's not really true. The AOSP roms don't make use of the Imagesense chip. I've used both and the AOSP camera doesn't come anywhere near close to the Sense camera.
There's a lot of talk from the AOSP camp about using apps from Play Store to take nice pictures with the AOSP camera, but you just can't replicate the quality of the Sense camera. The AOSP camera cannot take an image in the same definition as the Sense camera can, so you're just trying to beautify a lower definition image.
After all that, to the OP: The Viper XL 2.0 rom uses the latest version and it takes beautiful images.
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Camera appears to function as stock camera running ViperX
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There are a number of differences between the camera on ViperXL and stock. For one thing, the camera on Viper is the Sense 4.5 camera (slightly different interface layout, and more "Scene" options). Also the hi-bitrate camera mod option is available in AROMA when flashing Viper.
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That's not really true. The AOSP roms don't make use of the Imagesense chip. I've used both and the AOSP camera doesn't come anywhere near close to the Sense camera.
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I've only played with AOSP ROMs for a short time. But the camera is one thing I focused on, and I agree with the poster above yours, that there does not seem to be a significant difference between the image quality on AOSP vs. Sense.
I haven't read any meaningful mention of what the ImageSense chip actually does. My gut feel is that its just marketing baloney, and not a tangible difference.
The difference I have noticed, is that the Sense camera is much faster at auto-focusing before capturing the photo, and its in important difference. Layout of the Sense camara IMO is also more functional, and has some features I believe are not present in AOSP, including face recognition and tapping on an specific area of the image to focus there. Also believe the AOSP camera does not include an aspect ratio that takes advantage of the full screen size at full resolution.
As I've already mentioned, my experience with the AOSP camera is pretty limited. But from what I've experience, the Sense camera wins on a bunch of aspects. Not image quality, but other features.
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There are a number of differences between the camera on ViperXL and stock. For one thing, the camera on Viper is the Sense 4.5 camera (slightly different interface layout, and more "Scene" options). Also the hi-bitrate camera mod option is available in AROMA when flashing Viper.
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I've only played with AOSP ROMs for a short time. But the camera is one thing I focused on, and I agree with the poster above yours, that there does not seem to be a significant difference between the image quality on AOSP vs. Sense.
I haven't read any meaningful mention of what the ImageSense chip actually does. My gut feel is that its just marketing baloney, and not a tangible difference.
The difference I have noticed, is that the Sense camera is much faster at auto-focusing before capturing the photo, and its in important difference. Layout of the Sense camara IMO is also more functional, and has some features I believe are not present in AOSP, including face recognition and tapping on an specific area of the image to focus there. Also believe the AOSP camera does not include an aspect ratio that takes advantage of the full screen size at full resolution.
As I've already mentioned, my experience with the AOSP camera is pretty limited. But from what I've experience, the Sense camera wins on a bunch of aspects. Not image quality, but other features.
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Sorry but I just don't understand how people can't see the difference in quality.
I'm currently doing some testing on both cameras and will post the results sometime tomorrow.
I'll have some side-by-side comparisons of identical scenes from both cameras for people to check out, about ten in total.
HTC has installed dedicated ISP...which is major reason of better image quality on HOX...AOSP roms may not have required libs to use ISP...just my thought.
And yes...Sense based roms have better image quality than AOSP roms.
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Sorry but I just don't understand how people can't see the difference in quality.
I'm currently doing some testing on both cameras and will post the results sometime tomorrow.
I'll have some side-by-side comparisons of identical scenes from both cameras for people to check out, about ten in total.
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As I mentioned, my time on AOSP ROMs is limited. And I didn't do any side-by-side comparisons. Just based on my opinion, and purely anecdotal evidence, so take it for what its worth. But while I won't call myself a photographer (or anything close), I do spend a good amount of time on my DSLR as an amateur enthusiast, and at least a bit discriminating about photo quality. And I didn't see any significant difference in image quality.
I'd love to see your side-by-side comparisons.
I just need to take a few more shots with the AOSP camera then I'll compile them all and let you know.
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I just need to take a few more shots with the AOSP camera then I'll compile them all and let you know.
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I am excited to see these, as I'm currently on CM10 and trying to decide if I want to jump over to Viper for a bit.
Ok so I got the images uploaded, here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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Ok so I got the images uploaded, here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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Really wish you would have just posted the comparison pics here. Its really the same topic, and it makes for a disjointed discussion.
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Really wish you would have just posted the comparison pics here. Its really the same topic, and it makes for a disjointed discussion.
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I guess I felt that the topic deserved its own thread, so it's easier for people to actually find a comparison between the cameras. It's the only thread I could find that actually shows that.
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I guess I felt that the topic deserved its own thread, so it's easier for people to actually find a comparison between the cameras. It's the only thread I could find that actually shows that.
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Yeah, I see the point in getting more exposure to comparison pics in particular. But it just makes for a disjointed discussion, as I mentioned. You and I had some discussion that started here, and it gets carried over there. Then other users that pick up the discussion on the other thread don't know what we discussed on this thread. See what I'm getting at?
I don't think you're really in the wrong here, just my 2 cents.
Is there a way to bring the sense Camera application and libraries as an additional flash zip to AOSP roms?
Simply, no.
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Is there a way to bring the sense Camera application and libraries as an additional flash zip to AOSP roms?
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Rohan made a detailed explanation here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780038
To compare AOSP and Sense camera results, one would have create very controlled conditions and be very scientific. From my experience, the comparison can be very subjective. I have known both cameras to perform just fine to the extent that we can use them. I prefer the Sense camera only because it has some options that I like.
My sincere suggestion to you is to try them both and come to your own conclusions.
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To compare AOSP and Sense camera results, one would have create very controlled conditions and be very scientific. From my experience, the comparison can be very subjective. I have known both cameras to perform just fine to the extent that we can use them. I prefer the Sense camera only because it has some options that I like.
My sincere suggestion to you is to try them both and come to your own conclusions.
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A new thread was made in the General subforum, with some comparison pics. I'll agree that they are not necessarily as controlled or scientific as you mentioned. But interesting, nonetheless. You may find some of the results surprising, even.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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I fell in love with Sense 3 on my Evo 3D, but I think I'm over it now. I'm tired of the behemoth ROM downloads, etc.
However, I am in love with this fast focus, pic in video, etc camera that this One S has stock. What can I do ROM wise to cut the fat but keep the amazing camera? I want CM10, but the camera sucks. I understand that the camera is probably something sense framework related isn't it?
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I fell in love with Sense 3 on my Evo 3D, but I think I'm over it now. I'm tired of the behemoth ROM downloads, etc.
However, I am in love with this fast focus, pic in video, etc camera that this One S has stock. What can I do ROM wise to cut the fat but keep the amazing camera? I want CM10, but the camera sucks. I understand that the camera is probably something sense framework related isn't it?
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Look at the Sense-based ROMs under the development forum. You won't find anything like it in AOSP/AOKP.
Try sense based miui (there are 2 different ones, make sure you get sense based). Personally not a miui user, but sounds like what you may be looking for.
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Try sense based miui (there are 2 different ones, make sure you get sense based). Personally not a miui user, but sounds like what you may be looking for.
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I'll try that out, normally I wouldn't but I'm intrigued on this phone. I can't imagine how sense would mesh with that.
I'm blown away by this camera though. Not to veer the thread off too far but anyone know how to do the burst mode? I found something about limit to 20 shots per second or something like that, but I can't get it to burst
Just keep holding the shutter button down and it will start bursting until you left you finger or reach the limit
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Ahh good , I was expecting mode
Found a great solution to my problem I got Viper One S ROM and unchecked Sense. Kept the lock Ring and the awesome camera
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Found a great solution to my problem I got Viper One S ROM and unchecked Sense. Kept the lock Ring and the awesome camera
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Yeah I was running that for a while. Still doesn't match the speed & smoothness of JB/CM10 (IMO) but true it does give you perks from both. Good news is we get official JB within the next month, so won't have to compromise much longer :victory:
So when official One S JB comes out then cyanogenmod can have the stock camera? I've been running Trickdroid but there's no updates on that and my phone starts to run like crap after a couple weeks. Just put CM10 Back on today, and forgot no good camera.
cm10 camera can do burst mode, but it's very clunky and in the menu.
I noticed that the stock ROM contains the ability to take HDR images but I haven't found a stock ROM that has that same feature. Does anyone know if such an app exists? Thanks
All of the Sense ROMs have the same function...
Hdr camera app
Original Camera App.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vs6luq7npe9ounk/Camera.apk
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Original Camera App.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vs6luq7npe9ounk/Camera.apk
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So lemme get this clear coz I was wondering about this. If I get a non-sense ROM I can get back the camera nicely installed and potentially any other Sense apps I like?
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So lemme get this clear coz I was wondering about this. If I get a non-sense ROM I can get back the camera nicely installed and potentially any other Sense apps I like?
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No. Sense ROMs are Sense ROMs. Like the name says. If you get a non-sense ROM, like AOKP or CM, you don't get any Sense apps.
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To clarify the above.. The Sense apps don't work without all the behind-the-scenes stuff Sense roms have, including Rosie.
The Sense-based MIUI is a pretty good compromise, in my opinion. Been using it for a bit.. much more stable than the AOSP MIUI
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To clarify the above.. The Sense apps don't work without all the behind-the-scenes stuff Sense roms have, including Rosie.
The Sense-based MIUI is a pretty good compromise, in my opinion. Been using it for a bit.. much more stable than the AOSP MIUI
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Does it in anyway reduce the quality of the camera to not use a sense-app or will hdr app provide similar quality?
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Does it in anyway reduce the quality of the camera to not use a sense-app or will hdr app provide similar quality?
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Forgot to mention that the Sense-based MIUI uses the Sense camera with all functions working.
As for other apps.. I've tried four or five different HDR apps and have had the best results with Pro HDR out of the ones I've tried. The Sense app is a close second.. partly because it allows widescreen HDR pics.
And as for quality..I myself haven't noticed much difference in quality with other apps, since it's basically still using the same hardware... I use Camera360 a lot and am not disappointed. I think the advantage of the Sense app is the high burst rate you can get out of it. And the panorama mode is better than almost every other pano app I've tried.. except one (but only because that one app allows 360 degree panoramic)
There's a lot of discussion about the differences between the Sense Camera and the AOSP camera going on. It's quite often the deciding factor on whether to go with a Sense ROM or an AOSP.
This thread is basically a side by side comparison of how each camera can perform in different conditions. So people have a rough guide to go by. I've taken a few images of identical scenes using each camera, and will display them together in the following posts.
I am by no means a photographer, or an expert on the science behind digital imagery. I just noticed the amount of talk going on about this subject, and thought maybe some evidence would be nice. I hope it serves some kind of purpose.
The images were taken using the highest quality conditions on each camera. And using the auto (aosp) or smart scene (sense) settings.
One thing to note is that the outdoor shots were taken a day apart. The Sense shots were taken on a rather cloudy overcast day, and the AOSP shots were taken in mostly sunny conditions. Even though the Sense shots were taken in darker conditions, they are visibly much brighter.
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Wow that supprised me... I would expect sense to be allot better. It does better in low lighting. But on regular lighting stuff it looks prettier than sense
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Here's a comparison . . . but this one is double blind.
I spend nearly all my time on Sense ROMs, but I happened to be trying out the new BrickBeatz ROM yesterday. As the topic of the AOSP camera vs. Sense was being discussed on another thread yesterday, I decided to do my own test shots.
I've attached one AOSP pic, and one Sense. I've cropped the Sense shot, so you can't tell them apart by aspect ratio too easily (only cropped it by eye on the phone, you can probably figure it out by this if you really wanted, so no cheating!) and also renamed the files, so you can't tell that way either.
Shots were taken in artificial light (compact flourescent) in my kitchen. So the lighting conditions are the same for both shots. Of course, its just a shot taken under one set of conditions. Having a toddler running around limits my time to do more. But natural vs. artificial light, low vs. good light, and a bunch of other variables make it hard to say one is really "better" than the other, unless there is really a huge difference (which I personally don't believe to be the case). Add to this, the fact that there are a plethora of possible settings (and they are not remotely parallel between the 2 camera types) making direct comparison extremely difficult.
So there is just one comparison. Try to guess which is which.
I'm guessing aosp top, sense bottom.
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I'm guessing aosp top, sense bottom.
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I'll PM you the answer. Let some more folks take a swag at it, before I post the answer here.
I actually just jumped from CM10 to Venom, since CM10 Nightlies are having build issues (no fault of our dev, all upstream stuff) and I'd been curious about Venom for awhile.
I'm trying to get some good comparison pictures, but it is surprisingly difficult - CM10's camera is not bad by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe I can take more later today in better setups, but none of what I've taken so far is worth posting...except the panorama shot I took, where the Sense camera is the clear winner.
Overall, the biggest difference is definitely in the software...Sense ROMs still have a ridiculously fast camera speed, with or without burst mode, and I'm not sure any AOSP camera can ever truly match that without access to the ImageSense chip that I believe handles some of this picture processing for the phone.
Hopefully more comparisons forthcoming as I find existing pictures to duplicate!
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I'll PM you the answer. Let some more folks take a swag at it, before I post the answer here.
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Top Is aosp, bottom is sense.
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One other thing - the quality of still pictures taken while recording video is notably better on Sense ROMs. Again, I think this is an ImageSense feature...it's designed to handle the workload. AOSP ROMs essentially take a 1080p free-frame, but Sense ROMs take a picture at the standard resolution - though it's still definitely lower-quality than a picture without video would be.
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Top Is aosp, bottom is sense.
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I agree.
WR
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I'm guessing aosp top, sense bottom.
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I'm gonna be honest, I cannot actually tell a difference in quality between those two shots. Redpoint, would you mind PMing me the answer?
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Redpoint, would you mind PMing me the answer?
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Done.
I'll wait a bit more, and see if more people want to guess. Then I'll post the answer here.
My guess is that B is Sense, only because it's sharper. But that could easily just be a focus thing.
I'd love to see some more comparison shots contributed if anyone can be bothered. I won't be taking any for the moment, had a few issues changing between ROMs (backups not working, Sense and AOSP, grr.. fresh installs causing headaches.. my fiance becoming increasingly frustrated at me having my head in my phone too much haha).
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to me the main difference is when you are on a aosp or aokp rom you cannot set the camera resolution to 6mp widescreen and take advantage of the whole screen as the viewfinder,
it has to do with the call to getsupportedpicturesizes not returning 6m widescreen in the list...
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Here's a comparison . . . but this one is double blind.
I spend nearly all my time on Sense ROMs, but I happened to be trying out the new BrickBeatz ROM yesterday. As the topic of the AOSP camera vs. Sense was being discussed on another thread yesterday, I decided to do my own test shots.
I've attached one AOSP pic, and one Sense. I've cropped the Sense shot, so you can't tell them apart by aspect ratio too easily (only cropped it by eye on the phone, you can probably figure it out by this if you really wanted, so no cheating!) and also renamed the files, so you can't tell that way either.
Shots were taken in artificial light (compact flourescent) in my kitchen. So the lighting conditions are the same for both shots. Of course, its just a shot taken under one set of conditions. Having a toddler running around limits my time to do more. But natural vs. artificial light, low vs. good light, and a bunch of other variables make it hard to say one is really "better" than the other, unless there is really a huge difference (which I personally don't believe to be the case). Add to this, the fact that there are a plethora of possible settings (and they are not remotely parallel between the 2 camera types) making direct comparison extremely difficult.
So there is just one comparison. Try to guess which is which.
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Okay, so here's the answer:
If viewed on the XDA phone app, the top of is Sense, bottom is AOSP.
If viewed on a computer browser, Photo_A (first photo) is Sense, Photo_B (second) is AOSP.
Surprising eh? Photo_B (bottom pic) is distinctly sharper, and its the AOSP camera. Of the 4 people that posted their guess, all of them got it wrong and assumed the sharper one is Sense. Personally, I would have thought they would be indiscernible, or Sense to be slightly better. So I'm as surprised as anyone.
Of course its just one photo in one specific light condition. There are a huge number of possible light conditions and setting possible. So of course, we can't make an overall judgement based on 2 pics. But its interesting, nonetheless.
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Okay, so here's the answer:
If viewed on the XDA phone app, the top of is Sense, bottom is AOSP.
If viewed on a computer browser, Photo_A (first photo) is Sense, Photo_B (second) is AOSP.
Surprising eh? Photo_B (bottom pic) is distinctly sharper, and its the AOSP camera. Of the 4 people that posted their guess, all of them got it wrong and assumed the sharper one is Sense. Personally, I would have thought they would be indiscernible, or Sense to be slightly better. So I'm as surprised as anyone.
Of course its just one photo in one specific light condition. There are a huge number of possible light conditions and setting possible. So of course, we can't make an overall judgement based on 2 pics. But its interesting, nonetheless.
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Interesting! What were the focus settings for each? I assume they were both automatically focusing on what was in front of them? Or did you have the AOSP camera set to focus on the center every time you take a picture? Did you try tapping-to-focus on Sense? Did you try setting Sense to 8 MP instead of cropping it to match AOSP?
Not nitpicking - just honestly curious what settings you used
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Interesting! What were the focus settings for each? I assume they were both automatically focusing on what was in front of them? Or did you have the AOSP camera set to focus on the center every time you take a picture? Did you try tapping-to-focus on Sense?
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Auto focus in both cases. Didn't tap focus on Sense. Just a quick and dirty test, since I happened to be switching ROMs. Completely anecdotal and nonscientific. I was literally doing this while my 2-year old daughter was running around playing in the kitchen, and I was supposed to be watching her! lol
But I was careful to get as good a shot as possible in both cases, using default settings. One might point out that maybe my hand moved just a bit more when taking the Sense shot. But as far as I'm concerned, how easy it is to get a clear photo is part of what makes a camera "good".
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Did you try setting Sense to 8 MP instead of cropping it to match AOSP?
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Should be 8MP regardless of the aspect ratio, shouldn't it? But I used the "Large" (highest) resolution, anyhow. I didn't think of changing the aspect ratio when I took the shot, so that's why I had the idea of cropping it later. In any case, I don't see how it would make a difference. The difference here seems clearly a matter of focus and sharpness, not resolution.
Hallo guys,
I read on the CM10 dev thread that the camera in that rom isn't as good as the 4.0 Sense stock camera. Can anybody please explain what exactly is the difference between those two camera apps in terms of picture quality, focusing, shutter, velocity and video recording? And why is it not possible to make the camera as good as it is on the stock rom?
Thanks in advance.
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br3ak said:
Hallo guys,
I read on the CM10 dev thread that the camera in that rom isn't as good as the 4.0 Sense stock camera. Can anybody please explain what exactly is the difference between those two camera apps in terms of picture quality, focusing, shutter, velocity and video recording? And why is it not possible to make the camera as good as it is on the stock rom?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
br3ak
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First of all, im not a developer but ive noticed that the cm10 camera loses all the sense software like continuous shutter and shooting photos while recording. Moreover, colors seem to have better contrast and saturation with sense. Can anyone else confirm this?
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I think the sense cam makes really good pictures. I use it for snapshots in holidays aswell. I don't wanna miss the good cam, That's why I hesitate to switch to CM10.
br3ak said:
I think the sense cam makes really good pictures. I use it for snapshots in holidays aswell. I don't wanna miss the good cam, That's why I hesitate to switch to CM10.
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Yeah it's great and if you dont wanna lose the cam it may be best to stay on sense till we get the official jb update
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I'm no developer too, so i could be wrong.
But as far as i know, this phone has a dedicated chip called 'ImageSense' powering the camera.
So far only the Sense camera app is able to fully utilize this chip, and thus having many features which are not available on AOSP rom's camera app.
As for the AOSP roms, the devs are able to get the camera working, but not able to fully utilise the ImageSense chip.
As for porting the Sense camera app to AOSP roms, i think it is close to impossible because of some framework issue which means the sense camera app only can run on sense roms.
Please correct me if im wrong.
From what I remember reading, HTC also didn't supply the drivers to the ImageSense chip, so it couldn't be integrated into AOSP ROMs. Hence, only Sense based ROMs which already have the drivers built in can fully utilise the ImageSense chip.
Hi All,
I need a little help from the community. In the past I've flashed a lot of ROMs for fun, and because I was searching for the best available camera or photo quality.
Unfortunately nowadays I don't have the time for this so I'm a little 'outdated'.
Can you flash-o-holic people here share your latest experience with me regarding to this matter?
Should I still look for sense ROMs?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
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see yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090220
Why worry? If the camera on the ROM is no good, just download a good one from the App store.
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Why worry? If the camera on the ROM is no good, just download a good one from the App store.
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Plus, we all have the same sensor (very poor) so it isn't much a matter of app, but how good are you in setting the right parameters into the app.
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Plus, we all have the same sensor (very poor) so it isn't much a matter of app, but how good are you in setting the right parameters into the app.
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Sure we have but I noticed differences in quality even with 3rd party apps. Sense ROMs IMHO always have better quality than e.g. CM ROMs and I just wanted know if this tendency changed or not.
sense 3.5 roms have worse camera quality than sense 3.0 or 3.6 roms