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[Solved] Stock Camera in non Sense?

I fell in love with Sense 3 on my Evo 3D, but I think I'm over it now. I'm tired of the behemoth ROM downloads, etc.
However, I am in love with this fast focus, pic in video, etc camera that this One S has stock. What can I do ROM wise to cut the fat but keep the amazing camera? I want CM10, but the camera sucks. I understand that the camera is probably something sense framework related isn't it?

theratdude64 said:
I fell in love with Sense 3 on my Evo 3D, but I think I'm over it now. I'm tired of the behemoth ROM downloads, etc.
However, I am in love with this fast focus, pic in video, etc camera that this One S has stock. What can I do ROM wise to cut the fat but keep the amazing camera? I want CM10, but the camera sucks. I understand that the camera is probably something sense framework related isn't it?
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Look at the Sense-based ROMs under the development forum. You won't find anything like it in AOSP/AOKP.

Try sense based miui (there are 2 different ones, make sure you get sense based). Personally not a miui user, but sounds like what you may be looking for.
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tgtoys said:
Try sense based miui (there are 2 different ones, make sure you get sense based). Personally not a miui user, but sounds like what you may be looking for.
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I'll try that out, normally I wouldn't but I'm intrigued on this phone. I can't imagine how sense would mesh with that.
I'm blown away by this camera though. Not to veer the thread off too far but anyone know how to do the burst mode? I found something about limit to 20 shots per second or something like that, but I can't get it to burst

Just keep holding the shutter button down and it will start bursting until you left you finger or reach the limit
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Ahh good , I was expecting mode

Found a great solution to my problem I got Viper One S ROM and unchecked Sense. Kept the lock Ring and the awesome camera

theratdude64 said:
Found a great solution to my problem I got Viper One S ROM and unchecked Sense. Kept the lock Ring and the awesome camera
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Yeah I was running that for a while. Still doesn't match the speed & smoothness of JB/CM10 (IMO) but true it does give you perks from both. Good news is we get official JB within the next month, so won't have to compromise much longer :victory:

So when official One S JB comes out then cyanogenmod can have the stock camera? I've been running Trickdroid but there's no updates on that and my phone starts to run like crap after a couple weeks. Just put CM10 Back on today, and forgot no good camera.
cm10 camera can do burst mode, but it's very clunky and in the menu.

[Q] is it possible to get the htc camera app?

I noticed that the stock ROM contains the ability to take HDR images but I haven't found a stock ROM that has that same feature. Does anyone know if such an app exists? Thanks

All of the Sense ROMs have the same function...

Hdr camera app

Original Camera App.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vs6luq7npe9ounk/Camera.apk

Andy2502 said:
Original Camera App.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vs6luq7npe9ounk/Camera.apk
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So lemme get this clear coz I was wondering about this. If I get a non-sense ROM I can get back the camera nicely installed and potentially any other Sense apps I like?

jaywhy13 said:
So lemme get this clear coz I was wondering about this. If I get a non-sense ROM I can get back the camera nicely installed and potentially any other Sense apps I like?
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no

No. Sense ROMs are Sense ROMs. Like the name says. If you get a non-sense ROM, like AOKP or CM, you don't get any Sense apps.
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To clarify the above.. The Sense apps don't work without all the behind-the-scenes stuff Sense roms have, including Rosie.
The Sense-based MIUI is a pretty good compromise, in my opinion. Been using it for a bit.. much more stable than the AOSP MIUI

mmceorange said:
To clarify the above.. The Sense apps don't work without all the behind-the-scenes stuff Sense roms have, including Rosie.
The Sense-based MIUI is a pretty good compromise, in my opinion. Been using it for a bit.. much more stable than the AOSP MIUI
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Does it in anyway reduce the quality of the camera to not use a sense-app or will hdr app provide similar quality?

jagarda said:
Does it in anyway reduce the quality of the camera to not use a sense-app or will hdr app provide similar quality?
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Forgot to mention that the Sense-based MIUI uses the Sense camera with all functions working.
As for other apps.. I've tried four or five different HDR apps and have had the best results with Pro HDR out of the ones I've tried. The Sense app is a close second.. partly because it allows widescreen HDR pics.
And as for quality..I myself haven't noticed much difference in quality with other apps, since it's basically still using the same hardware... I use Camera360 a lot and am not disappointed. I think the advantage of the Sense app is the high burst rate you can get out of it. And the panorama mode is better than almost every other pano app I've tried.. except one (but only because that one app allows 360 degree panoramic)

Wich rom brings the best quality camera ?

The title said it all...i want to take the mots beautiful pictures possible, and i experience imo some diferent quality depending on wich rom i used .
Maybe someone had an aswer for me...
Thanks
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audiogab said:
The title said it all...i want to take the mots beautiful pictures possible, and i experience imo some diferent quality depending on wich rom i used .
Maybe someone had an aswer for me...
Thanks
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If you install sense based roms the camera is much better compared to cm10 or asop roms
All sense based roms, the camera is better
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Camera appears to function as stock camera running ViperX

Although I prefer the ui of the sense camera, the cm camera still seems to produce similar quality images. At least I don't notice a difference.
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mmapcpro said:
Although I prefer the ui of the sense camera, the cm camera still seems to produce similar quality images. At least I don't notice a difference.
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That's not really true. The AOSP roms don't make use of the Imagesense chip. I've used both and the AOSP camera doesn't come anywhere near close to the Sense camera.
There's a lot of talk from the AOSP camp about using apps from Play Store to take nice pictures with the AOSP camera, but you just can't replicate the quality of the Sense camera. The AOSP camera cannot take an image in the same definition as the Sense camera can, so you're just trying to beautify a lower definition image.
After all that, to the OP: The Viper XL 2.0 rom uses the latest version and it takes beautiful images.

radeon962 said:
Camera appears to function as stock camera running ViperX
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There are a number of differences between the camera on ViperXL and stock. For one thing, the camera on Viper is the Sense 4.5 camera (slightly different interface layout, and more "Scene" options). Also the hi-bitrate camera mod option is available in AROMA when flashing Viper.
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timmaaa said:
That's not really true. The AOSP roms don't make use of the Imagesense chip. I've used both and the AOSP camera doesn't come anywhere near close to the Sense camera.
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I've only played with AOSP ROMs for a short time. But the camera is one thing I focused on, and I agree with the poster above yours, that there does not seem to be a significant difference between the image quality on AOSP vs. Sense.
I haven't read any meaningful mention of what the ImageSense chip actually does. My gut feel is that its just marketing baloney, and not a tangible difference.
The difference I have noticed, is that the Sense camera is much faster at auto-focusing before capturing the photo, and its in important difference. Layout of the Sense camara IMO is also more functional, and has some features I believe are not present in AOSP, including face recognition and tapping on an specific area of the image to focus there. Also believe the AOSP camera does not include an aspect ratio that takes advantage of the full screen size at full resolution.
As I've already mentioned, my experience with the AOSP camera is pretty limited. But from what I've experience, the Sense camera wins on a bunch of aspects. Not image quality, but other features.

redpoint73 said:
There are a number of differences between the camera on ViperXL and stock. For one thing, the camera on Viper is the Sense 4.5 camera (slightly different interface layout, and more "Scene" options). Also the hi-bitrate camera mod option is available in AROMA when flashing Viper.
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I've only played with AOSP ROMs for a short time. But the camera is one thing I focused on, and I agree with the poster above yours, that there does not seem to be a significant difference between the image quality on AOSP vs. Sense.
I haven't read any meaningful mention of what the ImageSense chip actually does. My gut feel is that its just marketing baloney, and not a tangible difference.
The difference I have noticed, is that the Sense camera is much faster at auto-focusing before capturing the photo, and its in important difference. Layout of the Sense camara IMO is also more functional, and has some features I believe are not present in AOSP, including face recognition and tapping on an specific area of the image to focus there. Also believe the AOSP camera does not include an aspect ratio that takes advantage of the full screen size at full resolution.
As I've already mentioned, my experience with the AOSP camera is pretty limited. But from what I've experience, the Sense camera wins on a bunch of aspects. Not image quality, but other features.
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Sorry but I just don't understand how people can't see the difference in quality.
I'm currently doing some testing on both cameras and will post the results sometime tomorrow.
I'll have some side-by-side comparisons of identical scenes from both cameras for people to check out, about ten in total.

HTC has installed dedicated ISP...which is major reason of better image quality on HOX...AOSP roms may not have required libs to use ISP...just my thought.
And yes...Sense based roms have better image quality than AOSP roms.

timmaaa said:
Sorry but I just don't understand how people can't see the difference in quality.
I'm currently doing some testing on both cameras and will post the results sometime tomorrow.
I'll have some side-by-side comparisons of identical scenes from both cameras for people to check out, about ten in total.
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As I mentioned, my time on AOSP ROMs is limited. And I didn't do any side-by-side comparisons. Just based on my opinion, and purely anecdotal evidence, so take it for what its worth. But while I won't call myself a photographer (or anything close), I do spend a good amount of time on my DSLR as an amateur enthusiast, and at least a bit discriminating about photo quality. And I didn't see any significant difference in image quality.
I'd love to see your side-by-side comparisons.

I just need to take a few more shots with the AOSP camera then I'll compile them all and let you know.
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timmaaa said:
I just need to take a few more shots with the AOSP camera then I'll compile them all and let you know.
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I am excited to see these, as I'm currently on CM10 and trying to decide if I want to jump over to Viper for a bit.

Ok so I got the images uploaded, here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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timmaaa said:
Ok so I got the images uploaded, here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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Really wish you would have just posted the comparison pics here. Its really the same topic, and it makes for a disjointed discussion.

redpoint73 said:
Really wish you would have just posted the comparison pics here. Its really the same topic, and it makes for a disjointed discussion.
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I guess I felt that the topic deserved its own thread, so it's easier for people to actually find a comparison between the cameras. It's the only thread I could find that actually shows that.
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timmaaa said:
I guess I felt that the topic deserved its own thread, so it's easier for people to actually find a comparison between the cameras. It's the only thread I could find that actually shows that.
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Yeah, I see the point in getting more exposure to comparison pics in particular. But it just makes for a disjointed discussion, as I mentioned. You and I had some discussion that started here, and it gets carried over there. Then other users that pick up the discussion on the other thread don't know what we discussed on this thread. See what I'm getting at?
I don't think you're really in the wrong here, just my 2 cents.

Is there a way to bring the sense Camera application and libraries as an additional flash zip to AOSP roms?

Simply, no.
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antonyfirst said:
Is there a way to bring the sense Camera application and libraries as an additional flash zip to AOSP roms?
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Rohan made a detailed explanation here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780038

To compare AOSP and Sense camera results, one would have create very controlled conditions and be very scientific. From my experience, the comparison can be very subjective. I have known both cameras to perform just fine to the extent that we can use them. I prefer the Sense camera only because it has some options that I like.
My sincere suggestion to you is to try them both and come to your own conclusions.

wisconsindesi said:
To compare AOSP and Sense camera results, one would have create very controlled conditions and be very scientific. From my experience, the comparison can be very subjective. I have known both cameras to perform just fine to the extent that we can use them. I prefer the Sense camera only because it has some options that I like.
My sincere suggestion to you is to try them both and come to your own conclusions.
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A new thread was made in the General subforum, with some comparison pics. I'll agree that they are not necessarily as controlled or scientific as you mentioned. But interesting, nonetheless. You may find some of the results surprising, even.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160

Camera: CM10 vs 4.0 Sense stock

Hallo guys,
I read on the CM10 dev thread that the camera in that rom isn't as good as the 4.0 Sense stock camera. Can anybody please explain what exactly is the difference between those two camera apps in terms of picture quality, focusing, shutter, velocity and video recording? And why is it not possible to make the camera as good as it is on the stock rom?
Thanks in advance.
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br3ak

br3ak said:
Hallo guys,
I read on the CM10 dev thread that the camera in that rom isn't as good as the 4.0 Sense stock camera. Can anybody please explain what exactly is the difference between those two camera apps in terms of picture quality, focusing, shutter, velocity and video recording? And why is it not possible to make the camera as good as it is on the stock rom?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
br3ak
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First of all, im not a developer but ive noticed that the cm10 camera loses all the sense software like continuous shutter and shooting photos while recording. Moreover, colors seem to have better contrast and saturation with sense. Can anyone else confirm this?
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I think the sense cam makes really good pictures. I use it for snapshots in holidays aswell. I don't wanna miss the good cam, That's why I hesitate to switch to CM10.

br3ak said:
I think the sense cam makes really good pictures. I use it for snapshots in holidays aswell. I don't wanna miss the good cam, That's why I hesitate to switch to CM10.
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Yeah it's great and if you dont wanna lose the cam it may be best to stay on sense till we get the official jb update
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I'm no developer too, so i could be wrong.
But as far as i know, this phone has a dedicated chip called 'ImageSense' powering the camera.
So far only the Sense camera app is able to fully utilize this chip, and thus having many features which are not available on AOSP rom's camera app.
As for the AOSP roms, the devs are able to get the camera working, but not able to fully utilise the ImageSense chip.
As for porting the Sense camera app to AOSP roms, i think it is close to impossible because of some framework issue which means the sense camera app only can run on sense roms.
Please correct me if im wrong.

From what I remember reading, HTC also didn't supply the drivers to the ImageSense chip, so it couldn't be integrated into AOSP ROMs. Hence, only Sense based ROMs which already have the drivers built in can fully utilise the ImageSense chip.

What is the best camera with panorama option?

I use Cyanogen and was keen to buy a camera app that supports good panorama. I use my camera a lot
Any help would be appreciated...

Milamber said:
I use Cyanogen and was keen to buy a camera app that supports good panorama. I use my camera a lot
Any help would be appreciated...
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This is sort of a half baked answer because I'm on a stock ROM, but of the many camera apps I've tried on the stock ROM, this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam has the best quality for still shots amoungst those that have panorama support, that I have found so far. I have not tested panorama yet. Its most likely that I picked it up on a free app of the day account.
Another one that does not have panorama but that is very good for still shots, the best one I've seen and is free, is this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lightbox.android.camera which I mention just because the quality is very good and when I've been on non stock builds in the past the camera has been the thing that has always brought me back to stock.
Hopefully the current cyanogen camera is of good quality, and its quite possible that the ones I mentioned front end the stock camera rather than hooking into it at a lower level. Its worth a quick try with the first one though; 15 minutes trial isn't much for a camera app trial but its a better offer than what those other phones have

Agreed ABC is the best camera app I have used photo quality is great.
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