Hello guys.
I'm facing a "problem" since I bought my Sensation. The HTC Sensation is normally a hot phone. When you browse the internet awhile, the bottom of the phone gets warm. This may vary depending on which governor/kernel are you using. If I use badass at 1.18, no problem. If I use stock kernel at 1.18 (ondemand) phone warms, but just a little, it's comfortable yet. But when I use ondemand governor over 1,5 ghz frequencies...specifically when i use ondemand combined with a high frequency (i don't know what's the problem since Snapdragon s3 runs originally at 1,5 Ghz) my hand warms too. Could be a hardware problem or is this common to all Sensation's? Should I call to HTC technical service?
Thanks in advance
I do believe this is common to most sensations. If I'm playing a game or something like that my device also warms up. Not hot but warm. I do think most sensation user experiences this. I would not worry. Now if the device runs so hot you can barely touch it, then that's different. But if its just getting warm, well I believe its normal. I hope this helps you and I wish you the best.
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Yeah that's normal
It's normal..mine does the same thing
I hope i'm not pointing out the obvious here, but the HTC Sensation is clocked at 1.2Ghz, so the device running at 1.5Ghz will make the device warmer then expected
Also, that said, a CPU will always be able to run at faster speeds then recommended by the manufacturer, one of the biggest problems we face today with CPU's is heat dissipation, even moreso with mobile devices as it becomes increasingly difficult to deal with all that heat, you could probably get away with clocking your phone to 3.0Ghz if you were quite happy mounting a fan and heatsink to the back of your device
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I hope i'm not pointing out the obvious here, but the HTC Sensation is clocked at 1.2Ghz, so the device running at 1.5Ghz will make the device warmer then expected
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1.5 GHz is the standard frequency of the chip. You may look at the Sensation XE, which is clocked at 1.5 GHz and is obviously identical in construction.
I run my HTC Sensation with 1.6 GHz and "ondemand" governeur, because it feels the best for me. I can't really say, that badass is smooth, but this may be subjective.
And to answer lanluckez' question: Yes, it gets warm and especially if you use 3G and surf in the web or play some games you will find it hot. But it won't hurt your phone, unless you charge it meanwhile and are sitting in the sun.
I suppose its reassuring to know everyone experiences this but its still worrying knowing that the phone gets hot.
Personally I hate the fact that it happens as I think in comparison to other phones its a poor feature.
I once used my phone as a sat nav for a 30 minute journey and that bottom area of the phone got so hot I couldn't even keep it in my pocket anymore!
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That seems like its getting too hot then if you can't even keep it in your pocket! It does get hot but not that hot, at least my device don't get THAT hot to where I can't keep in my pocket.. you might want to call the dealer of your device and let them know how hot It's getting and see what they have to say. They might possibly replace the device. It's worth a phone call.what your describing seems out of the normal hot. I would see what they had to say about it. Could be normal but it's worth a check. I wish you the best. Good luck. Hope this helps.
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Hi. My question us what CPU speed can I use before the desire s takes damage? Thanks
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Would not go over 1200mhz for general use but in the end it comes down to heat and chip quality. Some chips will run faster and produce less heat then others, you'll have to test yours! Don't over volt even if it is possible?
That's about all I can give you on the matter.
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
Okay. Thank you guys
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bronx said:
um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
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Good response, I bought a Desire S recently too and feared the "single core" 1 GHz CPU wouldn't be much faster than my Legend clocked at 768 MHz, after all it is only 232 MHz difference. Couldn't have been more wrong. The phone is a beast.
1.2 ghz is a good speed if you wanna overclock (& also this speed is more than enough)
1.4-1.5 ghz is the limit, anything more than that is very unstable and can cause damage to your cpu
Hey guys. I have a Desire HD. Although they're different phones, i'm sure the internals are almost exactly the same, bar few differences. As such, the cpu should also be the same. I tried out different cpu speeds. I kept my phone at 1.72ghz for a couple of weeks. The phone got pretty hot when using Wifi and such, but didn't get too hot. I'd say the safe point is 1.5ghz but at the stock voltage. Works for me, should work for you guys too I can get 1.7ghz at 1325mv, which is good enough for me I didn't get random crashes etc. My persona highest on this phone was around 2.1 ghz, which was insanely high, the phone was super fast, but got hot blazing hot and the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
Always be careful. If you have insurance, then go ahead and by all means clock the hell out of it if you don't mind a decrease in battery life. But if you have no insurance, and bought it sim-free...i'd suggest 1.3ghz...better be safe than sorry, wouldn't you agree?
the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
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Haha, bet that was a ball-shrinking moment. Made me laugh reading it.
But seriously, considering the potential damage & the native performance of the DS you wouldn't want to go crazy really.
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Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
ffodi said:
Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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Thanks for the answer! I overclocked it to 1,5GHz becouse I like it if everything is fast as lightning.
I know it can consume more battery, but it's not a problem for me.
I've read that post, it's useful thanks, but i think if everything is on stock voltage it cant hurt the cpu. I overclock my desktop rig also since ~15 years, and never had problems with that. I know that it's not the same, but I hope there will be no problems with that.
ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
You can't really compare a mobile phone and a laptop lol. A laptop has much more processing and graphic power as compared to a mobile phone.
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You do realise that Packard Bell laptop is rated for anything between 50W and 100W TDP, yes?
Your phone generates a tiny fraction of that. The two are not comparable simply because the clockspeed is similar.
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Your really comparing apples to oranges right now. These phones and the chips were designed with low power consumption in mind as well as heat so it doesn't damage anything in there, also a laptop like a member above said, has a whole lot more components than a phone. We're talking about harddrives, big 13-17in screens, WiFi, a bunch of other misc things as well.
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stroobach said:
ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
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Really lol?
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well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
stroobach said:
well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
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So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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Nothing like a laptop. Poor analogy, can't forget to mention HDD. Mechanical hard drive will use much more energy than flash memory found in phones.
is this guy serious??
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So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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indeed
at least someone who gets it
HTC needs a new battery to get battery life better
this one isnt build for so high end specs
My avatar seems fairly appropriate.
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Just get an Anker 1900mAh battery if you can't deal with stock battery life.
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Hello, as the title states, I was just wondering whether over clocking the phone can "break" the phone?
Also another question, Which Sebastian kernel should I use on Virtuous inquisition rom?
Would really appreciate some help with this.
Thanks a lot
I have never had a problem over clocking any of my phones. I do find you need to find that optimum speed, for best performance.
List of phones I have overclocked.
HD2
Nexus S
Nexus One
EVO
Sensation
Heat from overclocking your phone can break your phone but the sensation processor is supposed to be 1.5ghz stock. Pretty sure phone has a built in sensor that shuts it off before allowing it to overheat and fry the chip.
No kernel will really allow any unstable over clock levels, at least not without warning you. The processors in our phones were designed for 1.5ghz but HTC under clocked them stock to save battery. You can still go above 1.5 without damaging your phone. It might shorten the life, and yes you have a very slight risk of overheating but like the other guy said, your phone will turn off before killing itself. You will see a bit more battery drain though. Personally I've found it rather pointless to over clock. If I do I only go to the designed speed of 1.5. With a dual core processor I just don't see the point in going over that.
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Hi all.
Im using SebsstianFM 1.5 GHz kernel on my sensation . It becomes warm and heats my fingers, so I can't resolve is this an issue. I thought before that htc sensation has the same chipset in both xe and non-xe series. Hasn't it?
Perhaps Im unlucky one with the specific cpu or some heating is normal?
Thanks a lot in adv
Every processor is different, some can handle higher clockrates than others. Try underclocking it.
Thanks, I do.
But I'm sad a bit when informed about new Sebastian 1.7 GHz kernel. As for me 1.3 is the far frontier..
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Thanks, I do.
But I'm sad a bit when informed about new Sebastian 1.7 GHz kernel. As for me 1.3 is the far frontier..
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try it without charger for a while, the chips are made for 1512MHz
it can get hot for me when running on 1512 but only with charger
For me 1.5 GHz was OK, only got "hot" when I played 3D games like CS and FIFA, but I Find the 1.35 GHz a bit friendlier for the battery (and at the clock the phone very rarely gets hot).
No prob here with Sebastian's V1.30.1 @1.5ghz yet again all chips handle every frequency in a different manner
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How hot is hot? Am using using bricked 1.6 for aosp and I o/c to 1.9 Ghz to run benchmarks. After 10 minutes set at performance my battery hit 80° lol. Good benchmark scores tho.
Daily I use 1.56 Ghz and all is fine, wish I could o/c to 2ghz tho, just for the sound of it
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I didn't realize installing Sebastian's kernel would overclock me to 1.7GHz. My Senny is cooking over here. Anyone know where I can find the stock kernel? Or should I just slow it with SetCpu?
NVM...found it!
As for mine one it is really hot. Phone got 50 degrees within five using minuites while 1.5 GHz running. Though it is quite cold when used usual way like the calling, messaging etc. But anytime I load it with real tasks like playing 3d games, shoting videos it becomes hot and not suitable to use.
So 1.3 is my top...
Overheating for me is usually because of the app. Poorly built apps can cause overheating. My phone overheats even with the stock HTC 1.2GHz kernel when playing certain games.
Use SetCPU as a govenor to set the processor automaticly back to 1,2 Ghz when overheating.
I guess my processor is one of the luckier ones, I'm getting 1.72GHz under volted with no problems At the end of the day the Sensation was 'designed' to run at 1.22GHz so anything above is a bonus
You should be glad your phone doesnt blow up...as far as i see it, 1.7 ghz speed is so much closer to the netbook laptop processor speeds we get these days. these netbooks come with built-in exhaust fans to avoid heating up of the processor.
The sensation does not have such hardware builting, so its better not to overclock it too much or you might end up with a burnt up phone.
ARHD rom has a stock kernel , U can try it :d
Situation has chanched since I got updated with ARHD 6.5.3. For now I'm using 1.6 SebastianFm kernel with no prob.
Phone is comfortable with its temperature even when hard tasks running.
I don't know whether the new ROM is brilliant or the weather becomes more warm causing not to feel device heating with my fingers.
The fact is that issue has gone and I'm happy
i'm sure this has been asked before but i just want to make sure. both the sensation and the XE have the same cpu chip but the XE chip is O/C'd to 1.5 ghz, correct? meaning i can O/C my sensation to 1.5ghz and run it daily without any worries of shortening its life? also, what is the max frequency this chip can handle, safely?
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swift2fly said:
i'm sure this has been asked before but i just want to make sure. both the sensation and the XE have the same cpu chip but the XE chip is O/C'd to 1.5 ghz, correct? meaning i can O/C my sensation to 1.5ghz and run it daily without any worries of shortening its life? also, what is the max frequency this chip can handle, safely?
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The normal Sensation is in fact underclocked, so by clocking it to 1.5 you are releasing its ability.
As far as the Max is concerned, mine tops out @ 1.72 before I start getting problems (shutdowns and VERY warm handset)
Remember every chip is different so what is good for me may not be good for you, or you may even be able to go to 1.8!!!
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The normal Sensation is in fact underclocked, so by clocking it to 1.5 you are releasing its ability.
As far as the Max is concerned, mine tops out @ 1.72 before I start getting problems (shutdowns and VERY warm handset)
Remember every chip is different so what is good for me may not be good for you, or you may even be able to go to 1.8!!!
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thanks for the info. i can OC up to 1.83, anything after that my phone would just reboot. if the chipset is underclocked ive been underclocking it even more to 1.18.
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The Sensation and Sensation XE use identical hardware - just with the case of the Sensation, as pointed out by the previous post, is underclocked - the Sensation XE is just clocked higher, has had a lick of paint and been covered in Beats gimmicks. Which is pretty worthless if you're flashing ROMs anyway.
When it comes to overclocking, any form reduces the lifespan of components, but not to any sort of level that you should be losing sleep over. You should just play around with clock speeds and get the balance between speed and stability you're looking for. As pointed out in countless threads, every CPU is slightly unique, so some can take higher clocks than others, whilst some can only just make the 1.5GHz mark, or so I have read.
If you do go over 1.7GHz, it is probably worth keeping an eye on any excess heat being kicked out. Overclocking does have a slight degradation on battery life, but it's heat you should be wary of. Heat is the death of electronics, and warranty doesn't cover overclocking (although, if you are overclocking, you're rooted, so your warranty is void anyway ).
Just don't go mad. In my opinion, it's definitely worth bridging the gap between the Sensation and the XE by bolstering it up to 1.5 GHz, but after that point, it becomes more of a benchmark game - which don't really mean anything anyway. Clock speed isn't everything - it's more down to the architecture of the CPU more than anything.
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The Sensation and Sensation XE use identical hardware - just with the case of the Sensation, as pointed out by the previous post, is underclocked - the Sensation XE is just clocked higher, has had a lick of paint and been covered in Beats gimmicks. Which is pretty worthless if you're flashing ROMs anyway.
When it comes to overclocking, any form reduces the lifespan of components, but not to any sort of level that you should be losing sleep over. You should just play around with clock speeds and get the balance between speed and stability you're looking for. As pointed out in countless threads, every CPU is slightly unique, so some can take higher clocks than others, whilst some can only just make the 1.5GHz mark, or so I have read.
If you do go over 1.7GHz, it is probably worth keeping an eye on any excess heat being kicked out. Overclocking does have a slight degradation on battery life, but it's heat you should be wary of. Heat is the death of electronics, and warranty doesn't cover overclocking (although, if you are overclocking, you're rooted, so your warranty is void anyway ).
Just don't go mad. In my opinion, it's definitely worth bridging the gap between the Sensation and the XE by bolstering it up to 1.5 GHz, but after that point, it becomes more of a benchmark game - which don't really mean anything anyway. Clock speed isn't everything - it's more down to the architecture of the CPU more than anything.
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thanks for the info. i dont plan to over do it. i recently installed GTA3 and it was running slow and choppy so i set my cpu to 1.5ghz and cpu governor to "performance" and it runs the game smoothly. just wanted to make sure that its ok to run it at 1.5 for a long period of time. i dont really have a reason to clock my cpu any higher. if anything i'd just stick to 1.18 just for battery consumption reasons.
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