Hi. My question us what CPU speed can I use before the desire s takes damage? Thanks
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Would not go over 1200mhz for general use but in the end it comes down to heat and chip quality. Some chips will run faster and produce less heat then others, you'll have to test yours! Don't over volt even if it is possible?
That's about all I can give you on the matter.
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
Okay. Thank you guys
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
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Good response, I bought a Desire S recently too and feared the "single core" 1 GHz CPU wouldn't be much faster than my Legend clocked at 768 MHz, after all it is only 232 MHz difference. Couldn't have been more wrong. The phone is a beast.
1.2 ghz is a good speed if you wanna overclock (& also this speed is more than enough)
1.4-1.5 ghz is the limit, anything more than that is very unstable and can cause damage to your cpu
Hey guys. I have a Desire HD. Although they're different phones, i'm sure the internals are almost exactly the same, bar few differences. As such, the cpu should also be the same. I tried out different cpu speeds. I kept my phone at 1.72ghz for a couple of weeks. The phone got pretty hot when using Wifi and such, but didn't get too hot. I'd say the safe point is 1.5ghz but at the stock voltage. Works for me, should work for you guys too I can get 1.7ghz at 1325mv, which is good enough for me I didn't get random crashes etc. My persona highest on this phone was around 2.1 ghz, which was insanely high, the phone was super fast, but got hot blazing hot and the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
Always be careful. If you have insurance, then go ahead and by all means clock the hell out of it if you don't mind a decrease in battery life. But if you have no insurance, and bought it sim-free...i'd suggest 1.3ghz...better be safe than sorry, wouldn't you agree?
the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
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Haha, bet that was a ball-shrinking moment. Made me laugh reading it.
But seriously, considering the potential damage & the native performance of the DS you wouldn't want to go crazy really.
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Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
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Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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Thanks for the answer! I overclocked it to 1,5GHz becouse I like it if everything is fast as lightning.
I know it can consume more battery, but it's not a problem for me.
I've read that post, it's useful thanks, but i think if everything is on stock voltage it cant hurt the cpu. I overclock my desktop rig also since ~15 years, and never had problems with that. I know that it's not the same, but I hope there will be no problems with that.
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just curious lol I love to push my devices to the limit!
I'm pretty sure a 50% increase in CPU speed on a dual core processor is more than enough for this guy. Why would you even need to go higher? You'll just end up breaking your device and come here complaining to the devs that it's their fault..
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I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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Exactly. Same here!
i think if it was totally safe motorola would have been the one to do it and brag that they have the fastest tablet in the market with a 1.5 - 2.0 Ghz Processor. if you want you device to last, leave it with the stock speed, this thing is pretty fast as is, and if you do have to overclock i think the max would be what others have said 1.5. there is no other benefit, and i doubt you will notice any difference. other then your battery lasting 2 hours and your web pages loading a second faster (not important), and maybe apps opening a little faster(won't notice) and then your device getting hot as other have said, which can bcome an issue with other things on the the motherboard becoming hot. and in the next few months you'll end up with a Motorola DOOM
I'm familiar with overclocking when it comes to my PC, so I'm not a complete noob.
With SetCPU, there's no real "slider", it just steps up by it self.
So starting from 1GHz, I did a 'rough' test, to see when it'll crash (slide it up by one, run full Quadrant Standard test, slide it up by one again, repeat until crash, go back to the second highest, do a "torture test" to see if stable).
It didn't crash at the highest setting allowed by the kernel of 1.9GHz...
I'm doing the "torture test" right now.
That's almost a 100% increase in performance...
How is this possible? Are phone CPUs this good overclockers?
FYI, Quadrant Standard at stock 1GHz was around 1400, at 1.9GHz was around 2000 (not that Quadrant Standard really matters).
2000 on quadrant overclocked at 1.9 ist high actually its kinda low compared to how it comes out of the box good luck with battery and replacing that cpu
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2000 on quadrant overclocked at 1.9 ist high actually its kinda low compared to how it comes out of the box good luck with battery and replacing that cpu
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This isn't for everyday use, obviously.
Trying to find the highest stable clock, and going to run some MKVs, and lower the clockspeed until the MKV doesn't stutter, and have that clockspeed set for whenever I watch videos on my phone (currently at stock 1.0GHz, MKV files stutter like mad, but at 1.9GHz, it doesn't stutter).
Going to leave it at stock 1.0GHz (maybe underclock it) for any other usage.
O_O what is the purpose in overclocking what does it do
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Your CPU will be fine as long as its not constantly at 2.0. I left mine at 1.84 for 2 days for **** and giggles, phone didn't even get hot.. if you were to permanently leave it at 1.5 or so, you'd probably have a new phone before the CPU burns out. And not all phone cpus can overclock as high as our particular snapdragons, the 2nd gen snapdragon just happens to be an overclocking monster. The hummingbird in my captivate was kinda unstable at 1.4, the inspire takes 1.9 like a champ.
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Overclocking makes your CPU run faster than what it was originally designed, and usually it only increases by 10-30% (which is why I'm flabbergasted at the almost 100% increase in clock speed).
For me, I want it because, like stated previously, the phone lags quite heavily when playing HD 720p (MKV) videos. I don't want to re-encode to standard mp4 (since most of my library is MKV or DIVX/XVID) to watch movies flawlessly.
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Your CPU will be fine as long as its not constantly at 2.0. I left mine at 1.84 for 2 days for **** and giggles, phone didn't even get hot.. if you were to permanently leave it at 1.5 or so, you'd probably have a new phone before the CPU burns out. And not all phone cpus can overclock as high as our particular snapdragons, the 2nd gen snapdragon just happens to be an overclocking monster. The hummingbird in my captivate was kinda unstable at 1.4, the inspire takes 1.9 like a champ.
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Yea, this CPU is a champ at overclocking.
I'm done with the "torture" test, and am pretty confident in setting it as high as 1.9GHz if needed.
Currently, 1.7GHz would play my MKV files stutter-free (starts to stutter at 1.6 and below), so I have 3 profiles:
Underclocked (768MHz)- normal usage,
Stock (1GHz)- when things slow down during normal usage, say flash on websites or Android 3D games,
Overclocked (1.7GHz)- for HD (MKV) video playback
And of course, have a Temp > 50C at the top priority, where it goes down to the underclocked (768MHz) profile.
P.S. The under 720p videos encoded in divx/xvid play flawlessly even in underclocked mode. This whole ordeal is strictly for the HD videos I have. I don't have any <4GB 1080p to test 1080p videos with... heh (stupid FAT32 format).
How does one get this SetCPU program? A file you can flash? Or is it an app?
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How does one get this SetCPU program? A file you can flash? Or is it an app?
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It is an app. I believe you can get it for free here on xda.
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You can't just use the app to overclock though. The stock kernel is only capable of 1ghz. You need a custom kernel that's set up to overclock. There are plenty to choose from, simple to install.
Hey guys,
Ive been using SetCPU since it was fixed for the sensation. I am curious about what others have observed as far as battery life and performance goes.
I am running 1.8Ghz with a cpu voltage of 1.265V (1265000uV).
My battery doesnt last all that long despite all the profiles I have in place. I guess thats expected when you overclock by that much, huh? Is it worth it though?
Im sure more of you out there have experience to share. Im not talking Quadrant and benchmark scores, Im talking REAL use!
I am beginning to feel that dropping the frequency down may be in order since I cannot find anything that needs 1.8Ghz to work on this phone. Plus, less frequency means less required voltage. That would mean more battery!
Anyone care to chime in with their overclock frequency + voltage and experience?
Matt
I'm also interested in getting some input from other users, without having to clog up the respective overclocking threads in the Development section.
Yesterday after work, I set up the 1.5Ghz Undervolted option using utking's tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168707). I didn't see too much need to push my CPU too hard, and a stable UV always piques my interest.
I created a couple of basic SetCPU profiles (screen off, battery below 20%, temperature < 50C), and scaling on demand up to 1512Mhz, my phone took about another 7-8 hours of moderately heavy use (Navigation, Maps, Yelp, photos, etc.) before it was on its last legs.
Bear in mind that I've been using the Anker 1900mAh battery. But even after the OC-UV that I set up, this was at least as good of battery usage as before without any SetCPU or overclocking, and actually seemed to be a little bit better to be honest.
I just dropped down to 1.6Ghz @ 1.26V...
I couldn't keep my phone from freezing with anything less than 1.26V @ 1.6Ghz. We will see how this goes for a few days and compare to my previous 1.8Ghz @ 1.265V.
So far, speed seems to be FASTER than 1.8Ghz. My Quadrant score (only being used here for comparison reasons) was 2700 right off the bat, whereas 1.8Ghz would peak around 2700-2800 after several tries.
The carousel works much better! I can swipe through quickly and have it scroll with zero lag. I can also fast swipe and watch is spin nicely!
Google Earth and Maps is about the same as 1.8Ghz.
Before, at 1.8Ghz, I could probably get 16 hours out of my phone with VERY LIGHT use. (A few 2min phone calls, check mail throughout the day, check the web a little). I am charging the phone up and will report back later.
Matt
I went down from 1.62 UV to 1.5 UV,because I could not see any difference in general use nad in benchmarks(except Quadrant) and battery consumption is much bigger with 1.62 with exact same profiles on setCpu.I think that this is best compromise between speed and battery life and as far as I know this is native clock speed of 8260 Snapdragon.
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I just dropped down to 1.6Ghz @ 1.26V...
I couldn't keep my phone from freezing with anything less than 1.26V @ 1.6Ghz. We will see how this goes for a few days and compare to my previous 1.8Ghz @ 1.265V.
So far, speed seems to be FASTER than 1.8Ghz. My Quadrant score (only being used here for comparison reasons) was 2700 right off the bat, whereas 1.8Ghz would peak around 2700-2800 after several tries.
The carousel works much better! I can swipe through quickly and have it scroll with zero lag. I can also fast swipe and watch is spin nicely!
Google Earth and Maps is about the same as 1.8Ghz.
Before, at 1.8Ghz, I could probably get 16 hours out of my phone with VERY LIGHT use. (A few 2min phone calls, check mail throughout the day, check the web a little). I am charging the phone up and will report back later.
Matt
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How simple is it to temp-root and overclock? I am really only interested in overclocking to speed up Sense, and you said it performs better with a speed boost.
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Very,very easy,just read this tread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168707
I have mine undervolted at VDD_1175000 and 1500MHz. I like it very much...makes a big difference in quadarant score, but not sure in reality how much faster. Battery life is fine (when the phone is on). Have not experiened FC's
I have modified eugenes batch file to push my kernel file and preferred speed after perma-temp-root and now is all in one click...
So here is a little update:
Its been about 8 hours since full charge and I am at 55% battery left.
1.6Ghz @ 1.26V, On Demand.
Ive been checking email, making a few calls, and surfing the net with both wifi and GPRS (was out of the network, away from 4G). I also played Angry birds for a little bit and showed off Google Maps and Earth to my Mom.
Now that Im back home, ive turned back on 4G...
Ive noticed a slight amount of hesitation while opening and closing things, but nothing bad.
I havent had any profiles kick in yet, but they will soon with the battery getting low. I will resist charging the phone and see if I make it through the night, using it as I need it. I will report tomorrow.
Matt
I must be doing something wrong.
I am rooted and running LeeDriods 1.2 Rom. When I launch setcpu the only options i have are 1000 mghz? WTF am i doing wrong?
i think at LeeDroid 1.2 you must not use setcpu but Demon control?
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i think at LeeDroid 1.2 you must not use setcpu but Demon control?
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Hmmm, okay. I saw where set cpu was updated for the sensation in the latest release but it doesn't seem to support overclocking with this rom.
Shame that as i was about to get that rom and flash it onto my phone, glad i came in here now
Running Leedroid 1.0
Kernel @ 1.7ghz max, i have it set to 1.5ghz and 192mhz
Runs hot when i play finger racing or reckless racing or modern combat 2 or something intensive, but besides the heat, it drains just like it normally would to be honest, maybe a little quicker, definite speed increase in overall user experience, without an OC the rom just flops, better than stock but just crap, OC is needed.
I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.
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I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.
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To answer your question, each device will have a differing operational ceiling depending on the quality of the SoC, soldering, silk-screening etc. They aren't all created equal. If 1.5GHz works fine for you, stick with it I see OC kernels pushing to 1.8GHz now.
Naturally the higher you go the hotter your SoC will run, so I'd play around and find the point where you gain some performance, but negligible heat over stock. Heat will kill not only your SoC, but your battery as well.
I'm only going from personal experience, but I've never found an OC to be worth it in terms of an actual, real-life performance increase, on any device. It looks good in benchmarks, but I'd rather have a phone that was smooth as butter in day-to-day operation than a jerky piece of sh*t that gets 10,000 in Quadrant YMMV of course!
The heat stress and battery drainage costs, plus stability issues, outweigh the positives for me.
How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?
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How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?
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Most of the Sensation ROMs feature what's called an OC Daemon.
This is pretty much an automatic overclocker of sorts. It can change your clock ceiling/floor automatically depending on load. Read a bit more about it here.
If you have something like SetCPU installed, the Daemon is redundant, giving you manual control over your clocks. The easiest way to return to 'stock' frequencies would be to simply delete SetCPU and allow the Daemon to do it's thing
Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob
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Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob
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I couldn't see whether the daemon in included on LeeDroid, or whether LeeDroid has actually just modified the frequency tables (list of supported frequencies) to allow for the ~1730MHz ceiling. If the daemon is there, it'll already be working for you - you don't see it
I don't believe it's something you can just download and tack on. I think you'd have to be running a supported ROM. You may need to dig a little deeper into the LeeDroid thread and do some reading, or perhaps retitle this thread to ask 'Does LeeDroid include the OC Daemon' or something similar.
Sorry I can't be more help, I'm a devout Android Revolution HD supporter myself, although I am running the UNITY kernel.
Good luck mate!
personally I can't see the need to over clock, given that all software is probably written for devices currently in use, I do not know of any dual core 1.5 or higher phones, so why oc ?
I agree , I would rather have a fast stable phone, than some jerky fc piece of ****e that gets 10000 jiggawatts in a benchmark, and that can cook my crumpets..................... on second thoughts, I do like my crumpets.
Hi all.
Im using SebsstianFM 1.5 GHz kernel on my sensation . It becomes warm and heats my fingers, so I can't resolve is this an issue. I thought before that htc sensation has the same chipset in both xe and non-xe series. Hasn't it?
Perhaps Im unlucky one with the specific cpu or some heating is normal?
Thanks a lot in adv
Every processor is different, some can handle higher clockrates than others. Try underclocking it.
Thanks, I do.
But I'm sad a bit when informed about new Sebastian 1.7 GHz kernel. As for me 1.3 is the far frontier..
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Thanks, I do.
But I'm sad a bit when informed about new Sebastian 1.7 GHz kernel. As for me 1.3 is the far frontier..
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try it without charger for a while, the chips are made for 1512MHz
it can get hot for me when running on 1512 but only with charger
For me 1.5 GHz was OK, only got "hot" when I played 3D games like CS and FIFA, but I Find the 1.35 GHz a bit friendlier for the battery (and at the clock the phone very rarely gets hot).
No prob here with Sebastian's V1.30.1 @1.5ghz yet again all chips handle every frequency in a different manner
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How hot is hot? Am using using bricked 1.6 for aosp and I o/c to 1.9 Ghz to run benchmarks. After 10 minutes set at performance my battery hit 80° lol. Good benchmark scores tho.
Daily I use 1.56 Ghz and all is fine, wish I could o/c to 2ghz tho, just for the sound of it
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I didn't realize installing Sebastian's kernel would overclock me to 1.7GHz. My Senny is cooking over here. Anyone know where I can find the stock kernel? Or should I just slow it with SetCpu?
NVM...found it!
As for mine one it is really hot. Phone got 50 degrees within five using minuites while 1.5 GHz running. Though it is quite cold when used usual way like the calling, messaging etc. But anytime I load it with real tasks like playing 3d games, shoting videos it becomes hot and not suitable to use.
So 1.3 is my top...
Overheating for me is usually because of the app. Poorly built apps can cause overheating. My phone overheats even with the stock HTC 1.2GHz kernel when playing certain games.
Use SetCPU as a govenor to set the processor automaticly back to 1,2 Ghz when overheating.
I guess my processor is one of the luckier ones, I'm getting 1.72GHz under volted with no problems At the end of the day the Sensation was 'designed' to run at 1.22GHz so anything above is a bonus
You should be glad your phone doesnt blow up...as far as i see it, 1.7 ghz speed is so much closer to the netbook laptop processor speeds we get these days. these netbooks come with built-in exhaust fans to avoid heating up of the processor.
The sensation does not have such hardware builting, so its better not to overclock it too much or you might end up with a burnt up phone.
ARHD rom has a stock kernel , U can try it :d
Situation has chanched since I got updated with ARHD 6.5.3. For now I'm using 1.6 SebastianFm kernel with no prob.
Phone is comfortable with its temperature even when hard tasks running.
I don't know whether the new ROM is brilliant or the weather becomes more warm causing not to feel device heating with my fingers.
The fact is that issue has gone and I'm happy