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Hi. My question us what CPU speed can I use before the desire s takes damage? Thanks
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Would not go over 1200mhz for general use but in the end it comes down to heat and chip quality. Some chips will run faster and produce less heat then others, you'll have to test yours! Don't over volt even if it is possible?
That's about all I can give you on the matter.
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um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
Okay. Thank you guys
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bronx said:
um... just a quick question... why do You need more power? I mean what for??
n64 and psx emulators - full speed, gameloft's dungeon hunter 2 and rainbow six - smooth as my wifes ass, all the flash movies on web or divx offline - no problem, general use - as good as gingerbread can deliver.
I was thinking about which dual core beast shall I buy and ended up with this pocketable and powerful beauty.
... back to the topic - I wouldn't overclock it over 1.5 ghz, even then only for demanding tasks. battery life would decrease as well and I wouldn't trade that for a bit more fps.
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Good response, I bought a Desire S recently too and feared the "single core" 1 GHz CPU wouldn't be much faster than my Legend clocked at 768 MHz, after all it is only 232 MHz difference. Couldn't have been more wrong. The phone is a beast.
1.2 ghz is a good speed if you wanna overclock (& also this speed is more than enough)
1.4-1.5 ghz is the limit, anything more than that is very unstable and can cause damage to your cpu
Hey guys. I have a Desire HD. Although they're different phones, i'm sure the internals are almost exactly the same, bar few differences. As such, the cpu should also be the same. I tried out different cpu speeds. I kept my phone at 1.72ghz for a couple of weeks. The phone got pretty hot when using Wifi and such, but didn't get too hot. I'd say the safe point is 1.5ghz but at the stock voltage. Works for me, should work for you guys too I can get 1.7ghz at 1325mv, which is good enough for me I didn't get random crashes etc. My persona highest on this phone was around 2.1 ghz, which was insanely high, the phone was super fast, but got hot blazing hot and the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
Always be careful. If you have insurance, then go ahead and by all means clock the hell out of it if you don't mind a decrease in battery life. But if you have no insurance, and bought it sim-free...i'd suggest 1.3ghz...better be safe than sorry, wouldn't you agree?
the phone started flashing orange led lights and then shut down for like 10 minutes straight. I thought it was gone but...nope, was lucky thank god LOL
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Haha, bet that was a ball-shrinking moment. Made me laugh reading it.
But seriously, considering the potential damage & the native performance of the DS you wouldn't want to go crazy really.
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Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
ffodi said:
Hi!
I succesfully overclocked my DS to 1,5GHz(first to 1,3GHz, than to 1,4GHz), and it's fully stable with stock voltages. I use virtuous unity 1.29.0, and tweaked the built in OC daemon. Tested with stability test v1.5, and no problems after 30 minutes. Temperature is around 40 C(plugged in, charging, and running stability test).
What do you think, can I use it for 24/7? The temperatures are not high, and the phone is rock stable, so is it safe?
Thanks for answer.
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why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
kartkk said:
why do you need to run it on 1.5ghz? it is very fast at 1.2ghz
& also 1.5ghz will consume more battery & if you put some load on the cpu like a little gaming or a lot of browsing it can get heated up
overclocking more than necessary isnt good as there can be hidden damage to the chip(even if the processor doesn't get heated up)
read post #3 here
so always go easy on the overclocking
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Thanks for the answer! I overclocked it to 1,5GHz becouse I like it if everything is fast as lightning.
I know it can consume more battery, but it's not a problem for me.
I've read that post, it's useful thanks, but i think if everything is on stock voltage it cant hurt the cpu. I overclock my desktop rig also since ~15 years, and never had problems with that. I know that it's not the same, but I hope there will be no problems with that.
Please excuse me for my ignorance, but I don't know much about these kinds of topics.
I wanted to know if anybody could be kind enough to explain the dangers and negatives of an overclocked CPU and an undervolted kernel?
I know their benefits because of some research I did, but I could never find a concrete answer explaining the negatives and dangers.
I've heard some horror stories of overheating handsets that get so hot that internal components fry, heard about damaged radios that need to be replaced, and loss of signal. But I'm not entirely sure if those instances are correlation instead of causation.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
-Chris
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The general issue that applies to both modifications is that you are using the chips outside their specifications. Their whole behavior might no longer be as expected.
This is usually happening at such low level and in a so small range that it doesn't affect normal use.
Overclocking will definitely produce more heat. That's why people that overclock pcs to insane levels use non-standard cooling like dry ice or even liquid nitrogen.
As you can't change the way your phone will transport heat, there's only very limited room for overclocking.
The phone is designed to switch itself off if it gets too hot, however this is not something one should rely on.
Not sure about any specific risks of undervolting, but the general issues will definitely apply. Noone can guarantee for stuff to work as expected when you run components outside the specifications, as they were tested to run safe only inside the specs as supplied by the manufacturer.
It can cause permanent CPU damage which can lead to you bricking your phone, but the chances of that aren't that great. Usually if you undervolt too much, your phone will just reboot.
Stability is the biggest issue. It can put the components too far out of their comfort zone.
Unstable, unexpected behaviour and/or (in very strange cases drastically) reduced life expactancy. However, if you do undervolt your cpu, the only/main issue becomes unstable.
In my experience (lot of pc overclocking), you will notice when your material can't keep up with the settings and if you change it (back), no problems will occur.
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It can cause permanent CPU damage which can lead to you bricking your phone, but the chances of that aren't that great. Usually if you undervolt too much, your phone will just reboot.
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So would you say it's worth the risk to flash a ROM that has an overclocked CPU and undervolted kernel? I'm so scared to damage my device
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So would you say it's worth the risk to flash a ROM that has an overclocked CPU and undervolted kernel? I'm so scared to damage my device
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Yes I would, in a way the lower voltage cancels out the higher voltage, and even produces less heat overall. There are no dangers of undervolting AFAIK, saving battery is good, although if you set the volt extremely low the phone will freeze up. Devs put the volt at a good level but most of the time you can lower it by a notch or increase it for no reason. If this phone ever gets 2GHz clock that would be a danger to run at, because the voltage would be insane.
Hi all.
Im using SebsstianFM 1.5 GHz kernel on my sensation . It becomes warm and heats my fingers, so I can't resolve is this an issue. I thought before that htc sensation has the same chipset in both xe and non-xe series. Hasn't it?
Perhaps Im unlucky one with the specific cpu or some heating is normal?
Thanks a lot in adv
Every processor is different, some can handle higher clockrates than others. Try underclocking it.
Thanks, I do.
But I'm sad a bit when informed about new Sebastian 1.7 GHz kernel. As for me 1.3 is the far frontier..
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Thanks, I do.
But I'm sad a bit when informed about new Sebastian 1.7 GHz kernel. As for me 1.3 is the far frontier..
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try it without charger for a while, the chips are made for 1512MHz
it can get hot for me when running on 1512 but only with charger
For me 1.5 GHz was OK, only got "hot" when I played 3D games like CS and FIFA, but I Find the 1.35 GHz a bit friendlier for the battery (and at the clock the phone very rarely gets hot).
No prob here with Sebastian's V1.30.1 @1.5ghz yet again all chips handle every frequency in a different manner
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How hot is hot? Am using using bricked 1.6 for aosp and I o/c to 1.9 Ghz to run benchmarks. After 10 minutes set at performance my battery hit 80° lol. Good benchmark scores tho.
Daily I use 1.56 Ghz and all is fine, wish I could o/c to 2ghz tho, just for the sound of it
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I didn't realize installing Sebastian's kernel would overclock me to 1.7GHz. My Senny is cooking over here. Anyone know where I can find the stock kernel? Or should I just slow it with SetCpu?
NVM...found it!
As for mine one it is really hot. Phone got 50 degrees within five using minuites while 1.5 GHz running. Though it is quite cold when used usual way like the calling, messaging etc. But anytime I load it with real tasks like playing 3d games, shoting videos it becomes hot and not suitable to use.
So 1.3 is my top...
Overheating for me is usually because of the app. Poorly built apps can cause overheating. My phone overheats even with the stock HTC 1.2GHz kernel when playing certain games.
Use SetCPU as a govenor to set the processor automaticly back to 1,2 Ghz when overheating.
I guess my processor is one of the luckier ones, I'm getting 1.72GHz under volted with no problems At the end of the day the Sensation was 'designed' to run at 1.22GHz so anything above is a bonus
You should be glad your phone doesnt blow up...as far as i see it, 1.7 ghz speed is so much closer to the netbook laptop processor speeds we get these days. these netbooks come with built-in exhaust fans to avoid heating up of the processor.
The sensation does not have such hardware builting, so its better not to overclock it too much or you might end up with a burnt up phone.
ARHD rom has a stock kernel , U can try it :d
Situation has chanched since I got updated with ARHD 6.5.3. For now I'm using 1.6 SebastianFm kernel with no prob.
Phone is comfortable with its temperature even when hard tasks running.
I don't know whether the new ROM is brilliant or the weather becomes more warm causing not to feel device heating with my fingers.
The fact is that issue has gone and I'm happy
i'm sure this has been asked before but i just want to make sure. both the sensation and the XE have the same cpu chip but the XE chip is O/C'd to 1.5 ghz, correct? meaning i can O/C my sensation to 1.5ghz and run it daily without any worries of shortening its life? also, what is the max frequency this chip can handle, safely?
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swift2fly said:
i'm sure this has been asked before but i just want to make sure. both the sensation and the XE have the same cpu chip but the XE chip is O/C'd to 1.5 ghz, correct? meaning i can O/C my sensation to 1.5ghz and run it daily without any worries of shortening its life? also, what is the max frequency this chip can handle, safely?
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The normal Sensation is in fact underclocked, so by clocking it to 1.5 you are releasing its ability.
As far as the Max is concerned, mine tops out @ 1.72 before I start getting problems (shutdowns and VERY warm handset)
Remember every chip is different so what is good for me may not be good for you, or you may even be able to go to 1.8!!!
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The normal Sensation is in fact underclocked, so by clocking it to 1.5 you are releasing its ability.
As far as the Max is concerned, mine tops out @ 1.72 before I start getting problems (shutdowns and VERY warm handset)
Remember every chip is different so what is good for me may not be good for you, or you may even be able to go to 1.8!!!
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thanks for the info. i can OC up to 1.83, anything after that my phone would just reboot. if the chipset is underclocked ive been underclocking it even more to 1.18.
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The Sensation and Sensation XE use identical hardware - just with the case of the Sensation, as pointed out by the previous post, is underclocked - the Sensation XE is just clocked higher, has had a lick of paint and been covered in Beats gimmicks. Which is pretty worthless if you're flashing ROMs anyway.
When it comes to overclocking, any form reduces the lifespan of components, but not to any sort of level that you should be losing sleep over. You should just play around with clock speeds and get the balance between speed and stability you're looking for. As pointed out in countless threads, every CPU is slightly unique, so some can take higher clocks than others, whilst some can only just make the 1.5GHz mark, or so I have read.
If you do go over 1.7GHz, it is probably worth keeping an eye on any excess heat being kicked out. Overclocking does have a slight degradation on battery life, but it's heat you should be wary of. Heat is the death of electronics, and warranty doesn't cover overclocking (although, if you are overclocking, you're rooted, so your warranty is void anyway ).
Just don't go mad. In my opinion, it's definitely worth bridging the gap between the Sensation and the XE by bolstering it up to 1.5 GHz, but after that point, it becomes more of a benchmark game - which don't really mean anything anyway. Clock speed isn't everything - it's more down to the architecture of the CPU more than anything.
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The Sensation and Sensation XE use identical hardware - just with the case of the Sensation, as pointed out by the previous post, is underclocked - the Sensation XE is just clocked higher, has had a lick of paint and been covered in Beats gimmicks. Which is pretty worthless if you're flashing ROMs anyway.
When it comes to overclocking, any form reduces the lifespan of components, but not to any sort of level that you should be losing sleep over. You should just play around with clock speeds and get the balance between speed and stability you're looking for. As pointed out in countless threads, every CPU is slightly unique, so some can take higher clocks than others, whilst some can only just make the 1.5GHz mark, or so I have read.
If you do go over 1.7GHz, it is probably worth keeping an eye on any excess heat being kicked out. Overclocking does have a slight degradation on battery life, but it's heat you should be wary of. Heat is the death of electronics, and warranty doesn't cover overclocking (although, if you are overclocking, you're rooted, so your warranty is void anyway ).
Just don't go mad. In my opinion, it's definitely worth bridging the gap between the Sensation and the XE by bolstering it up to 1.5 GHz, but after that point, it becomes more of a benchmark game - which don't really mean anything anyway. Clock speed isn't everything - it's more down to the architecture of the CPU more than anything.
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thanks for the info. i dont plan to over do it. i recently installed GTA3 and it was running slow and choppy so i set my cpu to 1.5ghz and cpu governor to "performance" and it runs the game smoothly. just wanted to make sure that its ok to run it at 1.5 for a long period of time. i dont really have a reason to clock my cpu any higher. if anything i'd just stick to 1.18 just for battery consumption reasons.
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Hello guys.
I'm facing a "problem" since I bought my Sensation. The HTC Sensation is normally a hot phone. When you browse the internet awhile, the bottom of the phone gets warm. This may vary depending on which governor/kernel are you using. If I use badass at 1.18, no problem. If I use stock kernel at 1.18 (ondemand) phone warms, but just a little, it's comfortable yet. But when I use ondemand governor over 1,5 ghz frequencies...specifically when i use ondemand combined with a high frequency (i don't know what's the problem since Snapdragon s3 runs originally at 1,5 Ghz) my hand warms too. Could be a hardware problem or is this common to all Sensation's? Should I call to HTC technical service?
Thanks in advance
I do believe this is common to most sensations. If I'm playing a game or something like that my device also warms up. Not hot but warm. I do think most sensation user experiences this. I would not worry. Now if the device runs so hot you can barely touch it, then that's different. But if its just getting warm, well I believe its normal. I hope this helps you and I wish you the best.
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Yeah that's normal
It's normal..mine does the same thing
I hope i'm not pointing out the obvious here, but the HTC Sensation is clocked at 1.2Ghz, so the device running at 1.5Ghz will make the device warmer then expected
Also, that said, a CPU will always be able to run at faster speeds then recommended by the manufacturer, one of the biggest problems we face today with CPU's is heat dissipation, even moreso with mobile devices as it becomes increasingly difficult to deal with all that heat, you could probably get away with clocking your phone to 3.0Ghz if you were quite happy mounting a fan and heatsink to the back of your device
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I hope i'm not pointing out the obvious here, but the HTC Sensation is clocked at 1.2Ghz, so the device running at 1.5Ghz will make the device warmer then expected
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1.5 GHz is the standard frequency of the chip. You may look at the Sensation XE, which is clocked at 1.5 GHz and is obviously identical in construction.
I run my HTC Sensation with 1.6 GHz and "ondemand" governeur, because it feels the best for me. I can't really say, that badass is smooth, but this may be subjective.
And to answer lanluckez' question: Yes, it gets warm and especially if you use 3G and surf in the web or play some games you will find it hot. But it won't hurt your phone, unless you charge it meanwhile and are sitting in the sun.
I suppose its reassuring to know everyone experiences this but its still worrying knowing that the phone gets hot.
Personally I hate the fact that it happens as I think in comparison to other phones its a poor feature.
I once used my phone as a sat nav for a 30 minute journey and that bottom area of the phone got so hot I couldn't even keep it in my pocket anymore!
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That seems like its getting too hot then if you can't even keep it in your pocket! It does get hot but not that hot, at least my device don't get THAT hot to where I can't keep in my pocket.. you might want to call the dealer of your device and let them know how hot It's getting and see what they have to say. They might possibly replace the device. It's worth a phone call.what your describing seems out of the normal hot. I would see what they had to say about it. Could be normal but it's worth a check. I wish you the best. Good luck. Hope this helps.
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