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Onskreen Android Multitasking

27-02-2012 Updated..head to page 2 for some updated links..
If you havent spotted it in the Rom thread.. then head there and check it out..
[ROM][Nightly][ICS] Team Eos Transformer Nightlies (tf101)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520764
Thought I would bring this into here so that we can keep an eye on it and see if it comes to our transformer..
I for one would LOVE to have this going..
From what I am reading, its not going to be an app.. but part of the Android Roms that OEM's are able to put out on thier pads..
I suggest that if you like the look of it.. buzz them like i have and keep the transformer at the forfront of thier list of devices that they should be adding this too..
Thanks for reaching out. We are big fans of the custom rom communities and some of the features and improvements they have added to the core of Android. Currently we are working with several OEMs to include Cornerstone in upcoming devices. We are also considering a beta program in advance of the product being released commercially. This is not a finalized program at this point, but something being considered. To get signed up for this please sign up via our Facebook Page. That is also where the latest status updates get announced first.
Thanks!
Onskreen Team
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpEKnUuGXY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

I asked to the developers if it's possible to get a preview to implement it to Revolver ROM. But I don't think it's possible =|

They will probably charge an arm and a leg to the OEMs to incorporate the multiwindow UI...
gnufabio said:
I asked to the developers if it's possible to get a preview to implement it to Revolver ROM. But I don't think it's possible =|
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they have a new video teasing us..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc

I would love to have this but seeing that this been talked about for months and hasn't been release yet.. i don't see it come out any time soon..

gnufabio said:
I asked to the developers if it's possible to get a preview to implement it to Revolver ROM. But I don't think it's possible =|
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if they have cracked the programing with something that is going to blow us away..
then I sure they are going to be be milking this for all they can get..
its been a hell of a online marketing push so far..
we have yet to see it working in real world..
and as they had it going before ICS then I am a little supprised
they havent got a major taking it on and pushing it for the xmas shopping..
This is the type of thing that will make any NAMED pad different then ALL the others in a flash..
even the ipad users havent got this as yet..
so if they are sitting on the holy grail of programming. they better get your arse out there on product
before someone else steals there thunder..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo

This is where the ability of Android apps to scale to any screen size comes handy. I hope Google will implement something like than in next Android. For tablets it would be really usefull.

Actually..wouldn't that be the theory. If say a app works to a smaller screen.. then couldn't you run that app with it to be limited to that screen size.. thus you could then effectively run say, a MSN box and a Google translate..the key would be to limiting them to open to a certain size..and not go whole screen..
Linux inheritantly runs multi windows..Android is a based on similar coding..so really I can't see why this feature has taken so long to impliment.
sent from my smooth MikG HTC Evo

dgcruzing said:
Linux inheritantly runs multi windows..Android is a based on similar coding..so really I can't see why this feature has taken so long to impliment.
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You're talking about the X Windows System (which GNU/Linux, Solaris, *BSD, etc usually use), not Linux the kernel (which Android uses). You can even us X on Microsoft Windows operating systems, but it's not the native technology there anymore than it is on Android.
Android does it's own thing. As far as what multi-anything we get from Linux, we get the technology that makes sandboxing apps with a publicly shared directory work. We don't have X natively built into Android. If we did you wouldn't even need "Android" apps.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Spidey
Understand..
I was playing on Jobs NeXt machines back in 93 with multi layers of Linux & Dos..(shows my age)..that were running processors not much more then what we have in our hands now..
I am sure the hats @Google have this as a target as it was only a matter of time before it was demanded as a norm..
Point being.. these guys are close and I hope Asus is one of the few that have tipped some money into the bucket so that they in front of the pack..
Millions of android pads are just screaming out "multi windows me please" ;-)
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo

Windows 8 has sth similar, so I also think Google is already working on sth like that. I would rather wait than use sth that is third party addtion, not coming from Google.

ok, developers.. let it rip!!!
email today from the Onskreen crew..
Cornerstone is now Open Source!!
Over the last few months we've heard from so many of you. Companies interested in using Cornerstone in ways we never imagined, as well as users anxious to get Cornerstone on devices they already own. To get Cornerstone out to the community, and give everybody a way to contribute, we are excited to announce today that Cornerstone is being Open Sourced. We're anxious to share what we have been working on with you and are very excited to see how all of you can help make it even better.
There are a bunch of ways for you to get involved and learn more about Cornerstone:
Have a tablet device and want to put Cornerstone on it? We have an official ROM for the Motorola Xoom (WiFi) available. Download it and install on your device
Want to build a ROM for a different device? Grab the source and bake it into a ROM, then share it back with the community so others can enjoy also
Want to add new features or fix bugs? Grab the source and start working with code
Share a video of how you use Cornerstone! Upload it to YouTube and let others see also
Cornerstone Services
Along with the open sourcing of Cornerstone, Onskreen is announcing a package of services to help Organizations using Cornerstone in their devices, including:
Training
Development Services
Support
Commercialization
Learn more about how we can help you leverage Cornerstone for your Organization.
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http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b261efe2acec30149813de83c&id=0b60c32006&e=5ec7b968da

Nice, now only good developer who building app for our TF.

Cornerstone is now open source...
Let's add it to some ROMS!
http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b261efe2acec30149813de83c&id=0b60c32006&e=f1c1a0a95c
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this should be in general not dev and there is already a discussion here-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279199

I just saw the video and this would truly make using an android device amazing. It is so awesome however, that I think it would be wise for google to wait till the next release of android before releasing something like this. I think it would be a real selling point for android.

+1
wish I could help make this happen for my TF.

The package they released is for 4.0.3 so we will have to wait or put it on paulburtons ics hopefully it is baked into cm9 for tablets

mrevankyle said:
The package they released is for 4.0.3 so we will have to wait or put it on paulburtons ics hopefully it is baked into cm9 for tablets
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looks like it is getting close..
[ROM][FEB20][v0.3] CM9 Kang with Cornerstone! True Multitasking comes to Touchpad!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
Keep an eye on this Rom...
[ROM/WIP][Unofficial] CyanogenMod 9 for TF101
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517480 pg8
it will be screaming if they get it first..
but it wont be without its hassles...
https://plus.google.com/106527379151691513977/posts/3hkAaD6eah4
With that said, the base is done, the idea is out there and the code is floating between hands.
It will only be a matter of time before someone picks it up and runs with it.
Before someone comes in and dumps on this thread as they have in others, this is a thread about watching it develop.
Plenty of us have been scanning the airwaves for more then 6 months now for a sniff of multitasking Android on our pads.
Once again, I take my hat off to those programmers that spend hours over their keypads to bring us common folk
usable software to work with in our daily lives..

dgcruzing said:
looks like it is getting close..
[ROM][FEB20][v0.3] CM9 Kang with Cornerstone! True Multitasking comes to Touchpad!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
Keep an eye on this Rom...
[ROM/WIP][Unofficial] CyanogenMod 9 for TF101
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517480 pg8
it will be screaming if they get it first..
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Can be fairly easy now i would do it but i dont know how to use GIT
all you would have to do is merge
https://github.com/AndroidRoot/android_device_asus_tf101
with
https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone
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How I Love The HP Touchpad & WebOs

It's great and I am enjoying it so much that I do not really care about Android! Does that make me strange or what?

Nope ! I have dual boot on mine, and never boot into Android ! I had a galaxy tab 10.1, was nice, but prefer webos
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I had a Transformer and got rid of it when I got my touchpad. I love the webOS!

the only reason I am using Android on the TP is because there are no PDF notation apps available (like ezPDF reader or repligo). One other reason is a note taking software with handwriting capabilities such as freenote+.
other then these two I am mostly in webos. the biggest reason being the poor battery life in android at the moment.

I'm in the same category here. I have mine dual-booted, but rarely EVER boot to Android. In fact short of Netflix & maybe a couple other apps not available on the HP side, I LOVE webOS.....even to the tune of buying a couple little apps from HP that would've had a free counterpart for Android.
Mind you, I'm still waiting for video to be fixed to make the ICS jump, but still.....webOS is entirely underappreciated.

derausgewanderte said:
the only reason I am using Android on the TP is because there are no PDF notation apps available (like ezPDF reader or repligo). One other reason is a note taking software with handwriting capabilities such as freenote+.
other then these two I am mostly in webos. the biggest reason being the poor battery life in android at the moment.
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Dunno about PDF-notation, although I would think it's in Picsel Smart Office.
Handwriting apps are available on webOS. I currently use Doodle Pad. It's not feature-rich but not basic either. For 2,99 it's a great catch. Also, NuttyBunny is working on a feature-rich handwriting app. But there are a few more in the App Catalog, so that shouldn't be a problem.

I remember using my HTC Diamond and finally getting Android on it. Occasionally I had to boot back into windows mobile and I found the experience so disconcerting... Android seemed to just "behave" the way I wanted my phone to behave.
Now I feel the same way about WebOS. I boot into WebOS to use Skype and it feels like such a relief. I still use Android as my daily, but there is always a tinge of regret when I have to go back to Android.
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Vistaus said:
Dunno about PDF-notation, although I would think it's in Picsel Smart Office.
Handwriting apps are available on webOS. I currently use Doodle Pad. It's not feature-rich but not basic either. For 2,99 it's a great catch. Also, NuttyBunny is working on a feature-rich handwriting app. But there are a few more in the App Catalog, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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to me this is still a problem. Doing just the basic of doodling is not enough for me. the apps available right now in webos are just that. and if you follow the Nuttybunny thread it apparently has been abandoned.
and there is no pdf notation in either of the office packages either.
still waiting...

I love it too
Sometimes I seat back and wonder why WebOs is so under appreciated, I think the media has a big part to play in its demise (or is it?). Safe for the lack of apps, my TP simply stunning and I can say this because, I have Ipad, Iphone, and Galaxy note. But I just can't bear to sell my TP. I still hope it will not be a souvenir.

I agree. I still use my Touchpad on a daily basis. It's much easier to use than an Asus tablet I have.

Check the webOSNation forums, there's a PDF markup app in alpha or beta right now.
Beyond that, I dualboot, but only to run Ubuntu. Ditched the Android partition a while ago. Much prefer webOS on a daily basis.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.

Love webOS but lack of apps
You're not strange for loving webOS. The interface is nothing short of beautiful and user friendly. The gestures make it that much better. I've got ICS loaded on mine and usually the only reason I spend more time in ICS is because of the apps.
When I registered my TP, I made the mistake of being honest and entering my actual location (Austria) when I opened the App Catalog. I don't know why, but I can't see any Paid apps and even the selection of free apps is pretty sad
But I've managed to get Kindle installed under webOS and Skype works a charm. I'm loving the fact I can use the TP as an oversized desk/speakerphone when I pair it with my DHD. The sounds quality in webOS is also pretty brilliant in comparison to ICS.
Like I said, if it weren't for the restriction on Apps for my region, I would be logged into webOS almost permanently.

[Q] Port OpenWEBOS to MT4GS?

OK, who is brave enough to attempt to port the newly released Open WebOS 1.0 to our trusty MT4GS? :good:
http://www.openwebosproject.org/

This can be done with minor issues The Qualcomm chip in our device is the same as the Touchpad.

AgentCherryColla said:
This can be done with minor issues The Qualcomm chip in our device is the same as the Touchpad.
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Exactly, and it uses a Linux kernel just like Android. A good dev should be able to work this as easily as one of the ICS roms.

I love WebOS on my TouchPad, it's a really nicely thought out OS, with an intuitive UI. (Though I dual boot into CM9 most of the time.) I think my only real complaint is the app tray.
What I'd love to see is a way to run Android apps in WebOS. Like BlackBerry did with their Playbook for a while.

GoPadge said:
I love WebOS on my TouchPad, it's a really nicely thought out OS, with an intuitive UI. (Though I dual boot into CM9 most of the time.) I think my only real complaint is the app tray.
What I'd love to see is a way to run Android apps in WebOS. Like BlackBerry did with their Playbook for a while.
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OpenWebOS can run some Android apps already, I believe.

Fuzi0719 said:
OpenWebOS can run some Android apps already, I believe.
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NO WAY!
That's awesome!

I have always wanted to use WebOs. I would LOVE to see this ported
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My take on this is that since the MT4GS is already a discontinued device, I would rather have the experts that like our phone pay attention to sustaining our support on the Android family of software. On some other devices, you get more developers that can spread the load, but ours is a bit more of a niche device with limited sales, so trying to spread the developer load across multiple OS's is even worse than the spread across sense vs. non-sense builds. There is only a limited amount of interest in developing for a device like ours, and I would rather them focus on a few paths that will result in the the most useful, supported builds. WebOS was a limited OS as it was, so as good as it may have been, it isn't what we will get any (limited) support to develop towards IMHO.

I'm sad that I can't truly multitask on my infinity

I own a business and I'm my own secretary, so you could say I work 2 full time jobs. I have not touched my laptop for 2 years. Been using the various transformers as my daily driver. Currently, my infinity is being used daily for work. I have a laser printer mounted inside my car for me to print documents and invoices from my infinity. I do everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, on my infinity. Make my living with it. Run my entire business and keep all records on my infinity. And I keep a daily backup with dropbox.
It would be great if someone somewhere could develop cornerstone-like split screen ability for my infinity. Would make my life way way way better.
I'm kinda sad that it seems like no one has picked up cornerstone and tried to make it better. Lots of roms in development, and they kinda all look the same. I'm sorry if I have offended you, but that's what it looks like to me.
I know that the devs are using their own time to do what they love. And I thank them for it. What about google? How come they haven't picked up cornerstone or something like it so that their OS could be even more productive?
Like I said, I run a business with my infinity. Why won't google develop android to a point where it's more than just a toy for most people?

While this may not be what you want, you can always remote into a desktop somewhere, or even install ubuntu on the tablet itself.
Alternatively, there are many "floating" apps that allow you to run things in windows.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...vbS5teWJveWZyaWVuZGlzYWdlZWsuYWlyYnJvd3NlciJd

Hi i've tried to open a thread about that here but I haven't got a response as I wish http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961027
I hope that someone could help us, lol
By the way, I couldn't download Overskreen web browser on playstore: it said "my device is not compatible" Thanks if smeone knows why
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using XDA Premium HD app

goodintentions said:
It would be great if someone somewhere could develop cornerstone-like split screen ability for my infinity.
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Yes, I'd also like to see that. At least something like Windows 8 has.
goodintentions said:
I'm kinda sad that it seems like no one has picked up cornerstone and tried to make it better. Lots of roms in development, and they kinda all look the same. I'm sorry if I have offended you, but that's what it looks like to me.
I know that the devs are using their own time to do what they love. And I thank them for it. What about google? How come they haven't picked up cornerstone or something like it so that their OS could be even more productive?
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CyanogenMod once planned to integrate Cornerstone, but Google threatened them to lock them out of the app store, because apparently they had concerns about app incompatibilities.

levitz_kais said:
Hi i've tried to open a thread about that here but I haven't got a response as I wish http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961027
I hope that someone could help us, lol
By the way, I couldn't download Overskreen web browser on playstore: it said "my device is not compatible" Thanks if smeone knows why
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using XDA Premium HD app
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I couldn't care less for floating browsers. Again, unlike most other people, I don't treat my infinity as just a toy. I earn a living with my baby (my infinity). All my documents, records, invoices, etc. are kept in this thing.
How many people you know make a living armed with just a tablet-laptop hybrid? I'm not surprised the first response is to tell me to use a floating browser. People have trouble understanding how the infinity could be productive at all. They think I use my infinity to browse the web all day. And money grows on trees.

I believe the answer to your problem should be the ASUS Transformer Book, the upcoming hybrid from ASUS. Much as I love Android, Windows is the solution for all business needs.

Samsung and Google are in the loop on this Multi-View ability because right now SAMSUNG has rolled out Multi-View for the Galaxy Note 2 and now the Galaxy S III.
If SAMSUNG has worked on this Multi-View and Google's approved it, hopefully Google would be wise to get that feature available to every new Android device.

I am right there with you! I replace old laptops with these!
We give these out as laptop replacements for sales and marketing staff. They currently use the tf700 as a thin client replacement when at their desk- connected to a 24” hdmi monitor, usb hub with Ethernet, kb/mouse connected also. Many of them connect to a full desktop TS connection, but others are running a remote-app connection that allows the use of any company application without a full desktop having to be presented. This allows them to do most of their work on their android desktop and only launch those applications (like MS Office apps) that they have to. Their other choice would have been a thin client but obviously this is miles better!
I have always had an interest in cornerstone and really with that CM would have done it anyways. You can still use the tf700, just with limited ability to truly multitask. It may not make sense on all devices, but with the tf700, it would be a great device to setup a customizable app resizer to allow several apps to be open next to each other.

Same here.. I was excited when I did see Cornerstone for the first time. However was saddened to see how old it was and that none taken a stab at it for ours or someone else.
I would pay for such app or even a dev team to really implant this ability.

There was an alpha version of Cornerstone implemented on the Prime, but it certainly wasn't a daily driver...
To the OP - it may help if you provide a bit more info on what sort of apps you want multi task with. I use a browser quite a lot for work, but apparently you don't...
I also do a bit of coding in my spare time, and I've found apps like AirTerm (floating terminal), and ClipIt (universal clipboard) to be pretty helpful, appreciably when used with a floating keyboard and notepad...

huy_lonewolf said:
I believe the answer to your problem should be the ASUS Transformer Book, the upcoming hybrid from ASUS. Much as I love Android, Windows is the solution for all business needs.
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I know. I intend to buy the 14 inch i7 as soon as its available.

goodintentions said:
I couldn't care less for floating browsers. Again, unlike most other people, I don't treat my infinity as just a toy. I earn a living with my baby (my infinity). All my documents, records, invoices, etc. are kept in this thing.
How many people you know make a living armed with just a tablet-laptop hybrid? I'm not surprised the first response is to tell me to use a floating browser. People have trouble understanding how the infinity could be productive at all. They think I use my infinity to browse the web all day. And money grows on trees.
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I kept on trying to use the TeamEos version of Cornerstone on my Xoom. It's a good idea, but a PITA to implement and use. The only windows that would work without fcing were browser and gmail. You could run one more app in the central window but it would fc sooner or later. Eos didn't officially support it and didn't port it to JB. It's a great idea, like i said, but a real work in process.

Was looking at the Galaxy Note 10.1 Premium Suite upgrade video the other day.
The multitasking was pretty impressive to me.
That's what Google should do. And make use of that virtual buttons black bar in multitasking as right now it is a damn waste of space.

You guys realize that even Google'rs have full-fledged company-issued Windows laptops and that while Google Docs is the "official" product used internally most have MS Office too for working with the outside world. And MS products (as well as others) are also used in the back office to comply with privacy and security requirements as well as data retention regulations. Using any Android tablet (or even Chrome Book) for mission critical work or when you have to share files externally isn't very practical. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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You guys realize that even Google'rs have full-fledged company-issued Windows laptops and that while Google Docs is the "official" product used internally most have MS Office too for working with the outside world. And MS products (as well as others) are also used in the back office to comply with privacy and security requirements as well as data retention regulations. Using any Android tablet (or even Chrome Book) for mission critical work or when you have to share files externally isn't very practical. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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I know. For a while, I was going back and forth between my windows 7 laptop and the original transformer. After months of this, I slowly but eventually stopped using my laptop completely and just carried around my transformer. Yes, there are limitations. I am fully aware of all of them. I carefully weighed out the advantages and disadvantages between a laptop and the transformer and eventually decided that the advantages of the tablet-laptop hybrid outweighed the advantages of the laptop.
This is why I have already put the money aside for the i7 14" transformer book. As soon as it becomes available, I will be among the first to get it.
To me, it's more than just something for the occasional work and game. It's my livelihood. Google seems to have trouble understanding that some of us just don't care much for the games that are available on android. We want true productivity, damn it!
In other news, quasars in iOS is kicking our asses.

jordanmw said:
I am right there with you! I replace old laptops with these!
We give these out as laptop replacements for sales and marketing staff. They currently use the tf700 as a thin client replacement when at their desk- connected to a 24” hdmi monitor, usb hub with Ethernet, kb/mouse connected also. Many of them connect to a full desktop TS connection, but others are running a remote-app connection that allows the use of any company application without a full desktop having to be presented. This allows them to do most of their work on their android desktop and only launch those applications (like MS Office apps) that they have to. Their other choice would have been a thin client but obviously this is miles better!
I have always had an interest in cornerstone and really with that CM would have done it anyways. You can still use the tf700, just with limited ability to truly multitask. It may not make sense on all devices, but with the tf700, it would be a great device to setup a customizable app resizer to allow several apps to be open next to each other.
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Just curious, which Android RDP client do you use for RemoteApp connections?
goodintentions said:
I know. For a while, I was going back and forth between my windows 7 laptop and the original transformer. After months of this, I slowly but eventually stopped using my laptop completely and just carried around my transformer. Yes, there are limitations. I am fully aware of all of them. I carefully weighed out the advantages and disadvantages between a laptop and the transformer and eventually decided that the advantages of the tablet-laptop hybrid outweighed the advantages of the laptop.
This is why I have already put the money aside for the i7 14" transformer book. As soon as it becomes available, I will be among the first to get it.
To me, it's more than just something for the occasional work and game. It's my livelihood. Google seems to have trouble understanding that some of us just don't care much for the games that are available on android. We want true productivity, damn it!
In other news, quasars in iOS is kicking our asses.
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I don't think android was meant to be for managing a business. It's more like a consumer tablet. As hajalie24 pointed out, you could install Ubuntu on it. That would suit your needs much better I think. Of course there is risk and you'll have to do some migration.
Are there any specific Android apps you would like to see that support being in their own window?

Private Pyle said:
I don't think android was meant to be for managing a business. It's more like a consumer tablet. As hajalie24 pointed out, you could install Ubuntu on it. That would suit your needs much better I think. Of course there is risk and you'll have to do some migration.
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That's what xda is for. Using things the way they were intended.

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I don't think android was meant to be for managing a business. It's more like a consumer tablet.
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And people were never meant to fly thousands of feet in the air at incredible speeds, and yet millions of people do it every day.
As hajalie24 pointed out, you could install Ubuntu on it. That would suit your needs much better I think. Of course there is risk and you'll have to do some migration.
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I've already tried all of that. Too laggy for it to be of any use.
Are there any specific Android apps you would like to see that support being in their own window?
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Again, I'm not looking for specific floating apps. I'm a technophile. I've tried them all. What I'm looking for is the portability and long battery life of a tablet combined with true multitasking capabilities of a PC.
Don't get me wrong. For now, I've figured out how to get around all the limitations of android on the infinity. That's how I'm able to run my business with it.
I'm just disappointed and sadden that most people still see the tablet as just a toy and therefore keep developing it to act like a toy. Google's entire presentation of jellybean composed entirely of how great it is for gamming.

goodintentions said:
What I'm looking for is the portability and long battery life of a tablet combined with true multitasking capabilities of a PC.
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It's called a netbook.

goodintentions said:
And people were never meant to fly thousands of feet in the air at incredible speeds, and yet millions of people do it every day.
I've already tried all of that. Too laggy for it to be of any use.
Again, I'm not looking for specific floating apps. I'm a technophile. I've tried them all. What I'm looking for is the portability and long battery life of a tablet combined with true multitasking capabilities of a PC.
Don't get me wrong. For now, I've figured out how to get around all the limitations of android on the infinity. That's how I'm able to run my business with it.
I'm just disappointed and sadden that most people still see the tablet as just a toy and therefore keep developing it to act like a toy. Google's entire presentation of jellybean composed entirely of how great it is for gamming.
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I agree using the tf700 for many work-related activities would make life simpler but I am always going back to windows if I need to write something and I can't even imagine trying to create a power point on this. I prefer reading on it but generally use it for entertainment. What kind of work arounds have you done to get this functional?
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Coors said:
It's called a netbook.
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And that's called sarcasm? I think his point is to move away from windows or to find a viable alternative.

First Impression of Android?

What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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My first Android powered phone was a Motorola Defy. Of course I didn't know anything about it, not even how it looked like. First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!

Adinaky said:
First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
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Well said!
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It was awesome, so much possibilities, apps, customizing options,... but then I rooted my android phone, flashed newer android versions and had a lot of fun doing it. Android is awesome.

Before using it, I thought it was microsoft's attempt to compete with apple's os.

I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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Pattttti said:
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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The same here, if i had to stay with gingerbread it would not have been so awesome as it is now.

Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Pattttti said:
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Lol......yeah me too.....my name is Chris and I'm a flashoholic
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.

Freedom in all ways...

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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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guitarman2010 said:
Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
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first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:

dagothe9 said:
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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guitarman2010 said:
I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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We had experiences with the iPhone 3G and wow it was pretty great. Then one of us got the Galaxy S Captivate and it was really great as well. Data with HSPA+ just blew the iPhone away; no contest. And now we have this Apple vs Android battle all over the globe but when we started playing around with Android Dev boards (BeagleBoard for example) and with mainline Linux vs Android, the opportunities for communities to just tear open the commercial market are pushing mobile computing in such a great direction.
The turning point for us was being able to take a microSD with android putting it into the BeagleBoard, having it run; and then subsequently taking it out, putting another microSD card in it this time with Linux compiled for ARM with Arch Linux. At that point, we saw Android in a completely different light. I mean the plug and play abilities of those peripheral drivers alone...having that kind of device knowing that the backing to it is largely a Linux device kind of instills a level of confidence in both security (by the nature of open source whistle blowers) and in performance. Can't wait til Android becomes more than just a phone/tablet OS...give us more Android watches, Android clocks, Android cars; perhaps not in it's current implementation, but a derivative thereof. I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.

Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:

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Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Personally I blame the OEMs. If done right, Android would be no different in lag/latency down to the low level code than a well built JVM on top of a Linux kernel. But as a consumer...I agree; it is unfortunate that Android is subject to bad software design and to make it worse, Android is open to bad design down to the implementation of the SDK.
Overall though I think I would rather encourage Android to get cleaner than Apple to get more open.

guitarman2010 said:
What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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in all honesty i was blown away by the change in everything (came from apple)

ArcDatum said:
I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
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I will agree with you on that comment. Apple's iOS brings thoughts of claustrophobia to my mind lol
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can flash rom all the times