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When will we get our first ICS based ROM

I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...

Wow. Just search through all the topics in the skyrocket forum and you'll find your answer
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This is like some kind of Platonic Ideal of a post here.
But, I'm pretty sure they're going to release ICS at the big Samsung/AT&T/Google event tomorrow.

Savitt said:
I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
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Before you ask a question, please search the forum first, therefore other members will not give you harsh answers.
If you are looking for answers to rooting your device, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
If you are searching for rom developments, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383
If you are searching for information on Ice Cream Sandwich, best luck is to search google or in the general section. There is NO certain release date of when ICS will be available, but there are rumors and some information that states it will be in Q1 of 2012.
Good luck to you.
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What event? Do you have a link. ?

I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.

Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.

Phoneguy589 said:
I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
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Indeed. That is the only upcoming event that I am aware of.

I wasn't...LOL. I can't afford to buy another phone. I just pre-ordered the Transformer Prime so I'm out of money...so my wife says.

silver03wrx said:
Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
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Haha me too my friend l lol the hope jumped up through my body!
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No, I was being mean. There's not event tomorrow and ICS is but a distant dream. Enjoy your device now and don't sweat the OS version number. ICS is not going to give much more over what you have now.

I'm sort of with the OP in wanting to know about any rom based on ICS. I've searched the forums and google to no avail. I'm seeing other devices getting a version of CM9, but nothing for the Skyrocket yet.
So, my question is this: Is anyone working on an ICS rom for the Skyrocket such as CM9? If I had the know-how I'd be all over that since we have such a great and powerful phone. I know AT&T and Samsung will eventually release ICS, but it'll never compare to the likes of CyanogenMod.

No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.

silver03wrx said:
No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
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Thanks. Like some others I'm an impatient type...especially after using ICS on my HTC Incredible. Can hardly wait to have it on my Skyrocket, but will sit quietly (maybe) and wait.

Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.

Turbojugend said:
Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
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so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.

Pirateghost said:
so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
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Exactly its not as simple as ics source code being out, you also need proper drivers for the hardware

Pirateghost said:
so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
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That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
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....you also need proper drivers for the hardware
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Is it harder for phone hardware? Seems to be a lot of open source, or scene made drivers for, say video cards.

Turbojugend said:
That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
So what exactly is open about Android then? If you are at the mercy of the manufacture's to release the kernel, how is that open?
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Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.

Hey Pirateghost Really great in-depth info with your permission I would like to add this info for noobs here.
Pirateghost said:
Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
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Webos on Android Devices (Dual Boot)

I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat

Abyss19707 said:
I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.

HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I know it is sad for lack of support but Webos fans will support this. A person on one of the Webos forums is trying to wire the HTC Shift to work with the touchpad's charging dock, so there is still hope!

WebOS isn't open source yet, that's why nobody is porting it. -_-

It's not open source YET, but in a few month it will be and I'm hopeful that some devs will port it on other devices then.
The are two things I'm a bit worried about is webOS for other phones. Since I read a blog post which was all about the open source plan of HP I afraid that only the Touchpads 3.x webOS will be open sourced.
The other thing is the maybe missing feature of using gestures on phones. I mean webOS is all about gestures and I love to use my Pre3 with these gestures and the special gesture area, cause it's easy to use and superfast. But when ported on a phone, let's say a Galaxy S2, will there be gestures or does the user have to use the stupid buttons?

the enyo framework stuff was released today.

lovenokia said:
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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Where are you developers and porters?

Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad

T4L0n said:
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
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I would do that to my skyrocket too. It be nice to have gestures and simplicity WebOS. There's a mod out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpnlyBb6xI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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tpmullan said:
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I would!
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njtroncoso said:
I would!
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i would too

My vote is to port it to a device with a massive user base, such as my SGS2, or an HD2. I still play with my Pre- and it sits on my coffee table. After reading The Verge post mortem I understand why it died, but it still is the best UX hands down. Imagine it running on blazing fast hardware, but I wonder how much is lost without a keyboard?

It seems that everyone has move on from webOS within the android community (well, almost everyone). I am one of the die hard fans of the OS and continue to use it daily. Of course, my needs for an OS are different from many , and I come from a solid Linux/Unix background. I have used palm products for years and followed webOS from the beginning. There are times when I come off like a fanboi for webOS but it has seemed to be an elegant solution for true multi tasking from the beginning. I hear most folks here talking of the untimely demise of webOS and cannot help but wonder if they have decided not to follow the development of Open WebOS. The community edition of webOS is due out in Sept and there are a number of major improvements coming with it. There is also the Phoenix project which may be building another tablet running the open source WebOS.
For those who have moved on from webOS and are satisfied with android, I bid you fair well. I will continue to work within the webOS community and look forward to future development. For those who are still on the fence, I would suggest a bit of patience as there are good things in the future of webOS and this fall really isn't that far off. Whichever OS you choose, remember that the touch pad that you have is still one of the few dual boot tablets on the market and (for those who were not early adopters) was purchased for a reduced price that would be hard to match by any other tablet manufacturer. The hardware is still pretty good compaired to most all dual core tablets and is still able to run cutting edge android builds. This alone would be a good argument for sticking with the touch pad but I stick with it for the things it continues to do well within webOS.
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Hi
I want to install Android OS on Palm Pixi Plus.
Can any one help for the same.
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HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android

donsh00tmesanta said:
I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I'll buy the lack of apps argument, but customization? Kiddin' me? Installing Preware couldn't be any easier if they tried. Only Windows Mobile was easier than webOS.

I would defiantly try it on my skyrocket.
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Ideally webOS that could run Android apps would be great. The UX on webOS is second only to Windows Phone IMO, but webOS needs the app power of Android.
I had a Pre+ for a weekend but after the third time swapping it out because of hardware problems, I gave up on it. The hardware was always the problem. They should have had HTC manufacture it like the Treos.
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I'd run it on my X8 I like the look of WebOS and nearly bought a PalmPre when they were released!
It would be great to see a revival of the software
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Is ICS going to be worth it?

I know that many are excited about the 'sweetness' of ICS that's suppose to drop this month. I did have a TF Prime for 2 weeks (returned it due to issues). I miss the shiny svelte tab for sure, but it had way too many issues to deal with. No thx on being a BETA tester for ASUS unless they decide to send me a tablet for free.
Anyway it seems we've been hearing/talking about ICS for ages now (in fact it's only been 9 months or so I'd guess). When details where finally released on it, I admit I was somewhat disappointed.
Sure for people on Gingerbread, ICS is a huge step forward, but for all of us that have been using HC for up to nearly a year now, it didn't seem to offer that much.
Looking over wikipedia the only thing that I see that gets me excited is Hardware Acceleration of the UI, just about every other feature either exists in HC, is available in apps, or makes little difference to those of us using a TF101 (IMHO).
Now i will admit that once the Dev's create a stable ROM I'll drop that onto the device but I'm just not that excited for a new font. I do think that ICS being both a tablet and phone OS is good going forward for app development, and we should see those advantages play out over time in a more stable environment as well as more available apps, but as it stands currently I'm just not that excited for ICS.
I just looked at Platform stats;
Cupcake 0.6%
Donut 1.0%
Eclair 7.6%
Froyo 27.8%
Gingerbread 58.6%
Honeycomb 3.4%
Ice Cream Sandwich 1.0%
Talk about different user experiences ....WOW....I wish that Google could somehow shut down everything prior to Gingerbread, and force everyone up, with at least 37% of devices using these long outdated OS versions, it's no wonder that we constantly hear the 'fragmented' comment about Android.

I'm not sure what kind of ground breaking innovative features you were expecting in ICS. Although I agree that some of these features are available with third party apps, I believe your average everyday user will benefit from having them built in rather than needing to search through the market once they hear of some feature they would enjoy. You have to remember that we are almost surely the minority of overall Android users here on XDA compared to the general public, as we are more comfortable tinkering with our devices than others. And anything that can bring Android tablets closer to on par with the iPad, currently at the top of the tablet world, is a benefit to the Android platform and is "worth it."
As far as the fragmentation goes, I don't think the different OS versions you mentioned are what most people refer to as the "fragmentation" of Android. Rather, it is the manufacturers skin (HTC's Sense, Motorola MotoBlur, etc.) of each platform, which can be confusing to common users when switching between them. However, this is part of the beauty of Android; users can pick which skin suits them best, or as power users such as those of us on XDA can do, change the Android software if we like the hardware of the device but don't care for the software. Granted, more to your point, most iPhone users are probably on IOS 4 or above compared to those on Gingerbread or above, although I can't verify this fact with a quick Google search.
IMHO, I'm more excited to see CyanogenMod 9 on the TF101 than ICS in general. I've been a loyal user of Android Revolution HD, but I'm looking forward to see what the CM team has to offer in regards to the options/customizations available seen in every other CM ROM (AR is based on stock TF101 ROM, with plenty of enhancements of course).

If you would have tried out paulburton's ICS port you would see the truly immense differences that it brings. Honeycomb was not a finished product on is release and was only pushed out to compete with the iPad so there were a lot of things wrong with it. Now with ICS we will have a smother experience along with greater uniformity. The promise of CM9 is just the icing on the cake

Yeah I'm looking forward to CM9 on the TF101 as well...I did try out an Ipad2 after i returned my Prime. I didn't find much that i could criticize about the device ( other then price)....the thing was solid and just worked (which is more then i can say about the Prime)....I'm looking forward to the MeMo hopefully by then ICS will have been patched up to a level that makes it robust. The padphone as well looks good (and being able to use this dock is sweet)...but i do wonder if it will even make its way to NA
As for expectations for ICS....I don't know maybe I thought we'd see something revolutionary....like User profiles....more support for external devices like DVD drives... native printer support

surroundedbytrees said:
Yeah I'm looking forward to CM9 on the TF101 as well...I did try out an Ipad2 after i returned my Prime. I didn't find much that i could criticize about the device ( other then price)....the thing was solid and just worked (which is more then i can say about the Prime)....I'm looking forward to the MeMo hopefully by then ICS will have been patched up to a level that makes it robust. The padphone as well looks good (and being able to use this dock is sweet)...but i do wonder if it will even make its way to NA
As for expectations for ICS....I don't know maybe I thought we'd see something revolutionary....like User profiles....more support for external devices like DVD drives... native printer support
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lol its a mobile OS not linux..

blickmanic said:
lol its a mobile OS not linux..
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Its virtual machine on top of linux so most of what he is saying could be done but would obviously be cm based or aosp done by our devs
User profiles are available already theres a root app that creates partitions for each profile or user
Printer support i know through bluetoth theres a couple apps for it but nothing native or other than wifi/bluetooth
Im just saying its good to dream and in this guys case both the things he mentioned are do-able
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I wouldn't mind being able to print web pages and graphics from the tf on my wifi printer.

luna_c666 said:
I wouldn't mind being able to print web pages and graphics from the tf on my wifi printer.
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Have a look in the market. There are printing apps from canon for example.
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I've tried the HoneyComb on a variety of Android tablets (transformer, Toshiba thrive, galaxy tab 10.1, acer, and some others), and it seems laggy: scrolling the home screen left and right lags when doing it fast. is ICS better and faster on the original transformer (for those who tried the ports)?
I'm planning on getting an EEE Transformer (not Prime) soon, before they get out of the market. Already it got sold out in 2 local shops who put them on promotion, preparing for the prime. I might find the base 16GB Wifi only for around €350.

towlie288 said:
Have a look in the market. There are printing apps from canon for example.
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All android printing apps are printer dependent. Android has no printing layer. I think this is ridiculous. Android has much more potential for being a desktop replacement than iOS (I use it for 90% of the tasks I use my MacBook Pro for) but there is no printing layer.
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For the whiny little snots who don't think the TF101/HC is fast enough or must always have the latest versions, ICS ought to be worth it. Everything else is just evolution like Froyo -> Gingerbread. Worth it but not a game killer as long as stuff works. I prefer ICS to HC the same as I prefer GB to Froyo.
On the Prime I really noticed the speed difference in ICS, but was already 250% satisified with the TF101 speed under HC (which isn't all that different from the Prime on HC IMHO).
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im an update junkie first and foremost but i am eager for ics for other reasons as well. CM9 is awesome. But a stable release allows custom roms to pick out the latest working code. Even a semi stock but optimized rom with custom oc kernel is great.

Spidey01 said:
but was already 250% satisified with the TF101 speed under HC (which isn't all that different from the Prime on HC IMHO).
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The only thing that you must have notice was the browser speed. It lags terribly on HC during loading of the page, but from what I read it also lags on ICS sometimes, so I don't know if the update will be worth it.

towlie288 said:
Have a look in the market. There are printing apps from canon for example.
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Hmmm..thanks! I never even thought to look in the market, i have a canon pixma mp495, which is listed under compatible printers with the app Canon EPP, so maybe it will work
I'll let you guys know if it is worth it. (replacing more and more functions of my laptop daily this transformer is)
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Wow. Just what i was looking for scan and print! Nice..

Brother Printer App available too
luna_c666 said:
Hmmm..thanks! I never even thought to look in the market, i have a canon pixma mp495, which is listed under compatible printers with the app Canon EPP, so maybe it will work
I'll let you guys know if it is worth it. (replacing more and more functions of my laptop daily this transformer is)
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Wow. Just what i was looking for scan and print! Nice..
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I have a brother wifi printer and there is a nice app for it. It has been updated several times since I first downloaded it. I have it on my tf and my captivate. It has helped me greatly.
For example, yesterday I picked up my daughter after work and went home. She fell asleep about 15 minutes before we got home. And, we were planning on going to dinner because we had a coupon. So, I pulled in the driveway, left the car running, let my cappy connect to my wifi and printed the coupon from my phone. My wife grabbed it and joined us in the car while my daughter continued to sleep peacefully.
I never thought a smart phone could help my daughter get a better nap until yesterday.

Magnesus said:
The only thing that you must have notice was the browser speed. It lags terribly on HC during loading of the page, but from what I read it also lags on ICS sometimes, so I don't know if the update will be worth it.
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Opera Mobile has been my daily browser on each, so I can't say that I noticed much. Page loading in the stock still tends to be slow. What is different on the Prime, is how much faster/smoother the ICS UI is compared to HC on the Prime. I'm almost tempted to hit the force GPU rendering option in Settings -> Developer Options, just to see how wide spread it can be.
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surroundedbytrees said:
I just looked at Platform stats;
Cupcake 0.6%
Donut 1.0%
Eclair 7.6%
Froyo 27.8%
Gingerbread 58.6%
Honeycomb 3.4%
Ice Cream Sandwich 1.0%
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You should see Apple's OS fragmentation, it's MUCH worse than that. Steve Jobs was a liar when we told the world of Android fragmentation.

Fragmentation plagues any device with frequent OS changes..I'm still on Windows XP on one PC, windows Vista on two of them, and Win7 on another PC..also, my wife has gingerbread on her phone, I have honeycomb on my tab, and ICS on my (identical model to my wife's) phone. Eh..any technology that becomes so quickly updated and made obsolete so easily will create such fragmentation..people can't always afford to upgrade just because their device is replaced with a new model, some people just don't like change even when OS updates are available. This is also exacerbated when the old OS will not run on older devices thus updates are not possible for many people who would like to have them. Perhaps ICS will run for a while until Jelly Bean comes out and allow old froyo and GB devices to leave the market and consumers retire them, and more devices will be consolidated on Android 4.x- will certainly make developing cross-platform apps easier to achieve.
Of course, now that I have ICS, I can't wait to see what JB is going to add to my device..

Yes it will. Because of this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome - I want ICS NOW!

So I guess they are releasing Jellybean..

Android 5.0 Jelly Bean Launching In Q3 Of This Year [REPORT] http://t.co/MY9zka9i -- Redmond Pie (@RedmondPie)
We really need to run up into Samsung SWAT style and force them fkrs to be down wit AOSP can someone give me the link to that petition on change.org? There's only like 3K sigs needed I think ima fb spam it lol

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Android 5.0 Jelly Bean Launching In Q3 Of This Year [REPORT] http://t.co/MY9zka9i -- Redmond Pie (@RedmondPie)
We really need to run up into Samsung SWAT style and force them fkrs to be down wit AOSP can someone give me the link to that petition on change.org? There's only like 3K sigs needed I think ima fb spam it lol
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AOSP is for nexus phones by design, it was something that most companies and Google were comfortable with when they were adopting android from windows mobile.
If you remember, windows mobile was highly customizable and all the OEMs had their own thing going on. This is where android is picking up from.
Don't hold your breath on a pure AOSP phone that's not nexus, it won't be common for a while.
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Android 5.0 Jelly Bean Launching In Q3 Of This Year [REPORT] http://t.co/MY9zka9i -- Redmond Pie (@RedmondPie)
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Why would Google already be bringing out a new operating system when Ice Cream Sandwich has not even been out for 6 months and few people have had the chance to even try it out?
ICS was supposed to eliminate the gaps between all the devices, but that's not going to work out very well if by the time older devices get it, the newest OS will be Android Edible Underwear 7.0.2

Presbycusis said:
Why would Google already be bringing out a new operating system when Ice Cream Sandwich has not even been out for 6 months and few people have had the chance to even try it out?
ICS was supposed to eliminate the gaps between all the devices, but that's not going to work out very well if by the time older devices get it, the newest OS will be Android Edible Underwear 7.0.2
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If google wanted to eliminate fragmentation touchwiz, motoblur, sense should also be eliminated
Everyphone and user should be given the option like a launcher to use aosp latest and greatest or manufacturer created versions
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Presbycusis said:
Why would Google already be bringing out a new operating system when Ice Cream Sandwich has not even been out for 6 months and few people have had the chance to even try it out?
ICS was supposed to eliminate the gaps between all the devices, but that's not going to work out very well if by the time older devices get it, the newest OS will be Android Edible Underwear 7.0.2
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someone didnt hear googles ceo describe fragmentation as allowing users to choose their "unique " android experience

jim93 said:
someone didnt hear googles ceo describe fragmentation as allowing users to choose their "unique " android experience
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But still. What's wrong with just building a launcher or something? Then they can have their worthless widgets and ugly launcher and I can remove it later. Maybe Google will start to make it easier for manufacturers to make a launcher that can dig deeper into the system so they can have their worthless changes that would be segregated enough to easily be added or removed.

degeneration said:
But still. What's wrong with just building a launcher or something? Then they can have their worthless widgets and ugly launcher and I can remove it later. Maybe Google will start to make it easier for manufacturers to make a launcher that can dig deeper into the system so they can have their worthless changes that would be segregated enough to easily be added or removed.
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Thats still wouldnt fix the problem they would just hold back updates until the update their launcher.

That's why I say we run up into Samsung with some bats and just start wrecking **** OR someone could link me that petition and I could get the remaining signatures..I'm down for either

Waiting patiently for the good hardware on windows phone... Android was nice but the 1 year that I spent with my focus was probably the best mobile experience yet (I don't game much, just an information consumer and workaholic).
Android will be second for me always. Got this SGS2 simply because of hardware specs, fooled me once but they won't fool me twice!
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irdanoob said:
That's why I say we run up into Samsung with some bats and just start wrecking **** OR someone could link me that petition and I could get the remaining signatures..I'm down for either
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Yes I'm sure attacking employees at samsung is a wonderful idea. That'll sure get things done faster.
I'd watch what you say here and review the rules.
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This thread is unproductive and going nowhere positive.

Open webOS 1.0 on Status/ChaCha

Would it be possible to port this? Now that it is open. This might be a better OS for the Status/Chacha.
http://blog.openwebosproject.org/post/32462950628/open-webos-1-0-edition

atrix4g18 said:
Would it be possible to port this? Now that it is open. This might be a better OS for the Status/Chacha.
http://blog.openwebosproject.org/post/32462950628/open-webos-1-0-edition
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Open WebOS is as open as is Android: the kernel and drivers must be supplied by the manufacturer or developer, and certain apps like 'phone', 'sms', 'mms'... are not part of the open distribution.
Think that Open WebOS must be ported to EXISTING WebOS devices...

tokafondo said:
Open WebOS is as open as is Android: the kernel and drivers must be supplied by the manufacturer or developer, and certain apps like 'phone', 'sms', 'mms'... are not part of the open distribution.
Think that Open WebOS must be ported to EXISTING WebOS devices...
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Interesting, would be great on the ChaCha/Status because it is a very smooth OS and will work great with the keyboard.

I totally would enjoy to see this on the Chacha. Since WebOS ran on keyboard devices I hope that it will have better keyboard support than android.
I also noticed that someone was able to port WebOS to some other HTC Android device and used the drivers from Android. However, problem will be the drivers of course. :-/

Flexmaen said:
I totally would enjoy to see this on the Chacha. Since WebOS ran on keyboard devices I hope that it will have better keyboard support than android.
I also noticed that someone was able to port WebOS to some other HTC Android device and used the drivers from Android. However, problem will be the drivers of course. :-/
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The idea of the keyboard is what I was thinking. It would be a very similar experience on the chacha/status. Plus it is very fast.

it would be interesting to see a port of a totally different OS to the phone.
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/
for example.
but the amount of work it would entail would require a lot of very skilled developers, and a ton of research on the phone hardware as well as current available software.
I doubt it will ever happen - but it would be nice to see.
Honestly, at this point, I really wish that people would get together and make a CM10 port for the ChaCha/Status. I think it will improve performance and battery life even more than the current unofficial port of CM9.

kronflux said:
it would be interesting to see a port of a totally different OS to the phone.
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/
for example.
but the amount of work it would entail would require a lot of very skilled developers, and a ton of research on the phone hardware as well as current available software.
I doubt it will ever happen - but it would be nice to see.
Honestly, at this point, I really wish that people would get together and make a CM10 port for the ChaCha/Status. I think it will improve performance and battery life even more than the current unofficial port of CM9.
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CM10 should be out in the next couple of months. The problem is there are like 2 real good developers for the htc chacha/status and they have lives to live. So they don't constantly work on this stuff. Which sucks. this is a great phone and we need more devs

atrix4g18 said:
CM10 should be out in the next couple of months. The problem is there are like 2 real good developers for the htc chacha/status and they have lives to live. So they don't constantly work on this stuff. Which sucks. this is a great phone and we need more devs
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^ couldn't agree more. it's a beautiful phone, and it has so much potential. I only wish HTC would realize this, and support it more - or better yet, develop another version of it, which has a little more power out of the box.

kronflux said:
^ couldn't agree more. it's a beautiful phone, and it has so much potential. I only wish HTC would realize this, and support it more - or better yet, develop another version of it, which has a little more power out of the box.
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This phone, with a dual core 1ghz processor same ram but 1gb would be nice and maybe just a little better screen. But just a dual core 1ghz processor and this becomes the best android phone in my opinion. I also have an atrix 4g but for most things I prefer this phone.

Unfortunately HTC said that it will discontinue to make phones with hardware keyboards...
However, I think the people that work on porting things to the HTC Chacha are limited. We could try to support them with some donations. But even if someone is willing to work on the port for some small amount of money we don't have any guarantee if the result of WebOS for the Chacha will be what we expect since it will depend on the drivers.
Also when they port CM10 to the chacha I really would like to see someone improving the keyboard support especially for the call functions. I gut 2 calls at the same time today and you can't even use the green phone key to switch between the calls since it just will open a new dialer insted of checking what is going on in the moment.
Would be nice of one of the developers to comment this here.

I will look into WebOS once someone else ports it to a ARMV6 phone. As the current phone which has WebOS so far is Galaxy Nexus, even the port for the Nexus isn't that great at the moment.
As for all the dev work, I think what we have at the moment is great for a lowend phone as we have CM7, CM9 and CM10 soon. Plus I'm going to start finishing some ROMs which I started couple of months ago. Donate to Adlx as he's keeping the dev work going on in his free time when he has Family also.

kronflux said:
it would be interesting to see a port of a totally different OS to the phone.
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/
for example.
but the amount of work it would entail would require a lot of very skilled developers, and a ton of research on the phone hardware as well as current available software.
I doubt it will ever happen - but it would be nice to see.
Honestly, at this point, I really wish that people would get together and make a CM10 port for the ChaCha/Status. I think it will improve performance and battery life even more than the current unofficial port of CM9.
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I already work on B2G for Chacha, and it didn't work. Later we saw it will not work as b2g (at least in the current state) doesn't support armv6.

adlx.xda said:
I already work on B2G for Chacha, and it didn't work. Later we saw it will not work as b2g (at least in the current state) doesn't support armv6.
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Thanks for the clarification.