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Will the droid charge ever be supported by Cyanogen?
Reason I ask is because I just picked up the droid incredible 2, which is a great phone and even better on battery life than any other android phone I've had before (evo, nexus s), and I'm still on my 14 day trial but I'm considering the droid charge. I love the amoled screen on sammy, makes all other screens look washed out, and the vanilla look and speed. So cyanogen for droid charge ever? How are the roms without TW and how is battery life on the charge?
Last question, how does the charge feel in the pocket? I remember my evo was like a brick, and the nexus s was like nothing compared to it. The droid inc 2 is about the same as the nexus s. Thanks in advance.

luvtorev said:
Will the droid charge ever be supported by Cyanogen?
Reason I ask is because I just picked up the droid incredible 2, which is a great phone and even better on battery life than any other android phone I've had before (evo, nexus s), and I'm still on my 14 day trial but I'm considering the droid charge. I love the amoled screen on sammy, makes all other screens look washed out, and the vanilla look and speed. So cyanogen for droid charge ever? How are the roms without TW and how is battery life on the charge?
Last question, how does the charge feel in the pocket? I remember my evo was like a brick, and the nexus s was like nothing compared to it. The droid inc 2 is about the same as the nexus s. Thanks in advance.
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will it get cm7? probably at some point, how functional it will end up being is anyone's guess...official support? murky at best

nitsuj17 said:
will it get cm7? probably at some point, how functional it will end up being is anyone's guess...official support? murky at best
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I just don't like TW. It really lags the phone, comapred to the nexus s which has the same hardware but stock vanilla. That is why I'm asking about CM7, but I'm sure there are other roms out there which has taken the TW out of it right? I'm just in the fence between this phone and the droid inc 2.
Let me try to give some input on the droid inc 2 and maybe you guys can give me some feedback on what your experiences are with the charge.
-very light, feels great in the pocket
-sense, a couple or roms being developed now with addition of 3.0 sense but I can live without
-no 4g, not that I have 4g in my city, but it is offered at some places I usuallly go to
-already has a beta cm7, which runs nearly perfect, very stable
-very fast phone, browsing the web and opening up apps
-battery life is best from my experience, can easily get by with one day with moderate/heavy use with leftover juice
I'm just trying to decide wich one to keep with the help of people who already have the charge and can talk about the pros and cons of the phone. Thanks again.

If the 4g is not that important to you, then your current phone has better hardware except for the screen.
I personally don't know how I survived without 4g for this long.
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I have the Charge primarily for the screen. After all, any time im using the phone, im looking at the screen, making it the most used piece of hardware on the device besides the radios. Its plenty fast for me as well.
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Tornlogic said:
I have the Charge primarily for the screen. After all, any time im using the phone, im looking at the screen, making it the most used piece of hardware on the device besides the radios. Its plenty fast for me as well.
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Im telling you that super amoled really spoils you. That is the one thing that is really making me be in the middle between the two. After having one and going back to a LCD is hard, really looks washed out, plain and boring.
lol, funny how companies get your attetion/business.

paul25rs said:
If the 4g is not that important to you, then your current phone has better hardware except for the screen.
I personally don't know how I survived without 4g for this long.
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agreed...4 g is faster than my wifi right now. Screen is SICK. Can't go to a bionic from this, only a 4g GSII. If it exists.

I hate to say it but I'm getting the d3. I'm going to sell this phone. I hate how slow it is and knowing samsung updates won't come fast leaks are great but leaks are leaks. 4g is killing my battery and I'm always on wifi anyways. And oh who doesn't miss the keyboard. Locked isn't a problem im sure it will be unlocked the same way the atrix was and motorola left fastboot on it which means there is more to come. Just my opinion and i know the trolls will come.
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r2DoesInc has a Charge and is going to work on porting OMGB and OMFGB to it, so we'll have at least those for AOSP ROMs then. Once one AOSP ROM is done and working, it should be easier to port others to the phone then as well. It will happen at some point, the only problem is, it could take a while to happen.

To put things in context, the Fascinate, which came out about 10 months ago and is extremely similar to the Charge specs-wise, has just -- literally in the past few days -- gotten more-or-less fully functional CM7.
As far as the Incredible 2 goes, it's a decent but thoroughly underwhelming phone considering it came out so recently. Single-core, no 4G, okay but not great screen...it really is more comparable to the Fascinate than to the Charge or Droid X2.
Honestly, if you have a choice, you'd be better off waiting for the Droid Bionic, which will finally mate a dual-core processor with 4G.

i tell you 4g is so sweet. I came from a dx and i knew the bonic was coming out when i bought the charge. I dont regret at all upgrading. As i hated Blur and there screens are bad. TouchWiz is not that bad to me. I think you will be very happy with the charge. I am rooted and on humble 1.3 and voodoo kernel and my benchmarks are as high as my droid x on Gingerbread. I dont see qhy everyone loves Motorola after owning my charge.
Good luck buddy

I'm running gummy charged 1.4 its aosp and running 2.3.4. great Rom and really smooth. but you have
To flash 1.0 through Odin to get the right radio.
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It's not aosp hahaha its a debloated and themed tw rom
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I am so very confused. I have the droid charge. I had a droid 1 for the past year, I rooted it a hundred times or so with all different roms. it was very easy. I cannot for the life of me find on here or droid forums how to root the charge with no other changes. I guess there isnt a way yet? I really LOVE 4G. I have seen speeds up to 12 Mbs. And twice that fast posted by others like in Dallas area. I am a truck driver I am in and out of 4G areas all the time. I have a situation where I had to pay for the tethering right now my son was in a terrible crash and we have been in the Vanderbilt hospital in Nashville since Sat. $30 for 2Gigs...ugh. I need root. lol. I have searched and searched. I do not understand the oodin method. I really have tried to find what im looking for just unable right now. ty in advance

Odins the only way
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papi92 said:
Odins the only way
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but can it be rooted without changing everything else? using odin?

papi92 said:
I hate to say it but I'm getting the d3. I'm going to sell this phone. I hate how slow it is and knowing samsung updates won't come fast leaks are great but leaks are leaks. 4g is killing my battery and I'm always on wifi anyways. And oh who doesn't miss the keyboard. Locked isn't a problem im sure it will be unlocked the same way the atrix was and motorola left fastboot on it which means there is more to come. Just my opinion and i know the trolls will come.
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Yeah, you definitely have to be willing to flash a rom to this phone, Sammy's stock software is awful. I don't think I could own the thing without a custom rom and lagfix applied.

Mriley1021 said:
I'm running gummy charged 1.4 its aosp and running 2.3.4. great Rom and really smooth. but you have
To flash 1.0 through Odin to get the right radio.
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how do these roms run compared to stock? I have seen the pictures but no videos, maybe somebody can post one and compare it to something else. Honestly the droid inc 2 has got pretty much the same specs as the charge exept no 4g and more ram. The thing that I love about the charge is that it will be future proof with the 4g and the lovely screen.
How about the droid 3? anybody seen one yet? It just seems appealing because of the dual core and front camera, but I would hate the extra bulkiness from the keyboard. So hard to decide on a phone which will be a solid phone for the 2 years.

Will we be getting ICS

ICS was just announced a few minutes ago. And then I started to wonder if we were going to get it at all. We don't even have an official GB build. So do u guys think we're going to get ICS, or GB for that matter?
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Wondering the same...well...
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Yes ports maybe offical but im sure ports are on the way
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Yes ports maybe offical but im sure ports are on the way
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Yea me two...or leaks (like we don't have enough of those already lol)
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NO!!
No!!!! at least not officially!
think about it, we haven't even been updated to gingerbread. 2.3 wont be out til next year!

Yes we will get ICS
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Probably only via CM9.
I will be very surprised if Samsung made a TW ICS build specifically for the SGS4G.
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Yeah it will.. Once i get my unicorn!
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No. No. And...... no.
Unofficially probably. No way is our outdated phone going to see an official build. It changes to much of the phone and how it looks.
The average dumbass would freak out if they updated and things changed. No.way would a phone manufacturer do that. Ever.
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I think we will get GB and then we are done. When this happens is when you need to buy a new phone.

I'd be happy with official GB right now. ICS seems highly unlikely.

I wouldnt hold my breath officially, but our awesome developers here are sure give us some ice cream lovin. Probably before we get official GB lol

Isn't google directly giving us ICS.

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Isn't google directly giving us ICS.
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They give you a stock build of it yes. But you need drivers, a kernel and suck to make it work with out hardware.
All of which we don't even have for gingerbread correctly let alone ics.
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any one want to buy my sgs4g

actually, they are giving a fully functional universal build.

No and Im not sure why people even think we will get an unofficial version, didnt we only get a ghetto version of Gingerbread after an official Samsung leak? Why on earth would Samsung even attempt to make an ICS version for this phone? They need to actually make something to leak it, which is pretty much impossible given Samsungs business model.

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actually, they are giving a fully functional universal build.
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That's what I thought just didn't want to sound like a retard
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Ok thnx guys. I didnt we weren't getting it too. Just wishful thinking.
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You guys are doing it wrong. You give him the answer here wants and the thread dies
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Ics to droid charge?

So apparently HTC has updated their list of devices receiving ICS... 2 of which being the Thunderbolt and Incredible 2. Clearly HTC and Samsung are seperate companies, but seeing how both these devices were released well before the DC maybe Samsung will give us some official ICS love.
Thoughts?
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It's a thought, maybe I can come back to bed and dream some more on ICS for the Charge! hehe.

They haven't released RIL wouldn't hold my breath.
Would be nice of them but I don't see that happening for months. If at all. Sammy isn't that great for pushing updates IMO from past phones..
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Points in favor of the Charge getting ICS:
It was a flagship phone, dropping support would tarnish Samsung's reputation
Contemporary phones seem to be getting ICS
The Charge has just been released for US Cellular as the Galaxy S Aviator, and 18 months of updates means it pretty much has to get ICS...
Points against the Charge getting ICS:
The Galaxy S isn't getting ICS, because Samsung says it doesn't have enough memory... and has the same amount of memory as the Charge.
Honestly, I have no idea what to expect at this point...

For now I would treat ICS on Droid Charge as....a miracle! rare to happen...but possible.

We'll have a better shot of a dev porting it before Samsung.
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Samsung, updating Droid Charge would be like putting it on the Fascinate...same phone Charge just has LTE
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Samsung has said that the original galaxy s phones aren't getting ics because they don't have enough ram after samsung puts tw on it. I will assume the galaxy s 1.5 phones aren't getting it either because they have just as much ram.
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It's been.pretty much said by Samsung that the Galaxy S line(including variations) won't get ICS since they want to include TW with it. That would, I assume, require more memory. Our only hope would be 100% stock ICS ported over.
But damn, if the Nexus S had LTE, that probably would have helped a bit.
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Yea my thing is .... Samsung would look hella bad if they didn't and HTC did update phones released prior to DC .Aside from that Sense is a lot more of a memory hog than tw... the thunderbolt ONLY has 25% more ram.. then again it has 25 % more ram so who knows
RE- ril; the fact that Samsung doesn't seem to want to release the code doesn't mean they wont release ICS... ril doesn't need to be public for them to release an official build... or am I mistaken?
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You are not. The RIL is just a necessity for a community build of it, which would likely come out much sooner than an official one if we could get ahold of it

The problem isn't the amount of RAM, it is the amount of space allocated for /system on the device. If they would include TouchWiz, it likely would not have enough space left for everything. However, the fact that I have heard there are internal builds of ICS for the Charge is promising. Also, the fact that the Thunderbolt is getting ICS helps our case as well.

Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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We have cm9 besides the radio
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
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The charge seems like a really nice device. I'm surprised there isn't a ton of development for it. My friend was about to get rid of his till I had him root and eclipse it. Hope it picks up around here for everyone. Thought my epic was done for a while too, then all of a sudden, all kinds of goodies started popping up.
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djjroc007 said:
Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
Check the android development forum
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There isn't a daily driver ICS build. Wifi only build is out so far. RIL is what's holding us back. :/
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djjroc007 said:
Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434387
This is a PORT for the DC, as mentioned its only network connectivity is via wifi.
And for a good laugh read the entire thread.. but please dont add anymore garnage comments ... its just a good topic that got WAY out of hand
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ICS to come in July/August?

Found this on HTC's side, it's being reported on Droid-life, as well:
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
They are claiming July-August for ICS. I'll believe it when I see it.

They did say earlier this year it would be near the end of q3 when they pushed the ota out. I would say if they are honestly trying to get the update out then it will be at the end of august or later. They almost always delay by 2 months usually.
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I know there is no actual for this, but, is there an about time frame for leaks before they release official? I guess I mean, is it feasible to say that there may be a leak by the end of June? I know, purely speculation. But fun to guess.
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There is no way to know that because if we get a leak then we get a leak. The only way we can get a leak is if someone puts it out there for us.
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Awesome, only four months before I get a new phone lol....better late than never I suppose.....praying for leaks with working ril that's all the devs need!
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That's what I'm waiting for, the leaks to start rolling out. All it takes is one good one!
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I've accepted it will never be here. Same with my SGT10.1

It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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I played around with sense 3.6 and ics on a tmobile phone (sensation maybe?? Lol I dont remember -_-) and it wasn't much different than sense 3.5 with a couple additions. Althoigh I do like how the folders open ))
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It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.

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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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How do you get that with no ril? Been runnin it on wifes dinc for 5 months, it all works, pretty smooth, but not fantastic
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We have been forgotten.

Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.

Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.

I'm still here!

Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.

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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.

im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.

rajuabju said:
Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?

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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.

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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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