So apparently HTC has updated their list of devices receiving ICS... 2 of which being the Thunderbolt and Incredible 2. Clearly HTC and Samsung are seperate companies, but seeing how both these devices were released well before the DC maybe Samsung will give us some official ICS love.
Thoughts?
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It's a thought, maybe I can come back to bed and dream some more on ICS for the Charge! hehe.
They haven't released RIL wouldn't hold my breath.
Would be nice of them but I don't see that happening for months. If at all. Sammy isn't that great for pushing updates IMO from past phones..
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Points in favor of the Charge getting ICS:
It was a flagship phone, dropping support would tarnish Samsung's reputation
Contemporary phones seem to be getting ICS
The Charge has just been released for US Cellular as the Galaxy S Aviator, and 18 months of updates means it pretty much has to get ICS...
Points against the Charge getting ICS:
The Galaxy S isn't getting ICS, because Samsung says it doesn't have enough memory... and has the same amount of memory as the Charge.
Honestly, I have no idea what to expect at this point...
For now I would treat ICS on Droid Charge as....a miracle! rare to happen...but possible.
We'll have a better shot of a dev porting it before Samsung.
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Samsung, updating Droid Charge would be like putting it on the Fascinate...same phone Charge just has LTE
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Samsung has said that the original galaxy s phones aren't getting ics because they don't have enough ram after samsung puts tw on it. I will assume the galaxy s 1.5 phones aren't getting it either because they have just as much ram.
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It's been.pretty much said by Samsung that the Galaxy S line(including variations) won't get ICS since they want to include TW with it. That would, I assume, require more memory. Our only hope would be 100% stock ICS ported over.
But damn, if the Nexus S had LTE, that probably would have helped a bit.
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Yea my thing is .... Samsung would look hella bad if they didn't and HTC did update phones released prior to DC .Aside from that Sense is a lot more of a memory hog than tw... the thunderbolt ONLY has 25% more ram.. then again it has 25 % more ram so who knows
RE- ril; the fact that Samsung doesn't seem to want to release the code doesn't mean they wont release ICS... ril doesn't need to be public for them to release an official build... or am I mistaken?
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You are not. The RIL is just a necessity for a community build of it, which would likely come out much sooner than an official one if we could get ahold of it
The problem isn't the amount of RAM, it is the amount of space allocated for /system on the device. If they would include TouchWiz, it likely would not have enough space left for everything. However, the fact that I have heard there are internal builds of ICS for the Charge is promising. Also, the fact that the Thunderbolt is getting ICS helps our case as well.
Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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We have cm9 besides the radio
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
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The charge seems like a really nice device. I'm surprised there isn't a ton of development for it. My friend was about to get rid of his till I had him root and eclipse it. Hope it picks up around here for everyone. Thought my epic was done for a while too, then all of a sudden, all kinds of goodies started popping up.
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
Check the android development forum
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There isn't a daily driver ICS build. Wifi only build is out so far. RIL is what's holding us back. :/
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434387
This is a PORT for the DC, as mentioned its only network connectivity is via wifi.
And for a good laugh read the entire thread.. but please dont add anymore garnage comments ... its just a good topic that got WAY out of hand
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Hey guys I recently got an infuse from a buddy. Its never been rooted or anything, I came from the inspire where I noticed there was a lot more activity with ROMs, skins,etc... I'm wondering if this phone doesn't have as much interest or its harder to do things with? Ik nothing of the programming that goes into these things...just wondering if there will be more to come or if it is what it is?
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Hey guys I recently got an infuse from a buddy. Its never been rooted or anything, I came from the inspire where I noticed there was a lot more activity with ROMs, skins,etc... I'm wondering if this phone doesn't have as much interest or its harder to do things with? Ik nothing of the programming that goes into these things...just wondering if there will be more to come or if it is what it is?
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I also came from the inspire. The ROM activity here is nothing compared to the that phones development. HTC phones will always be superior with development and thats just the way it is. Partly because of the strong following of HTC Sense.
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Yes there will be more to come. From what I've read, the dev's are waiting for Att to release gingerbread.
If you look in the dev section you'll find lots to play with.
Cranky...
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Yes there will be more to come. From what I've read, the dev's are waiting for Att to release gingerbread.
If you look in the dev section you'll find lots to play with.
Cranky...
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Very good point. I remember the Inspire forums before the official GB builds came out. There was nothing happening and many people thought it was the start of a downhill path to the end of development for that phone. How wrong they were! Turned out all the devs didn't want to put in a lot of time to another build if GB was on the horizon. As soon as it hit, it was madness with all the new ROMs coming out. Hopefully the same happens here.
Cool I hope it all starts up soon... I will keep my eyes on the dev sections to see what comes up...fingers crossed
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Cool I hope it all starts up soon... I will keep my eyes on the dev sections to see what comes up...fingers crossed
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Me too. Its a tough call between Samsung and HTC though. Samsung has always had fantastic hardware and specs, HTC has always had fantastic software and vast dev community. Take your pick...
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Yeah. Pretty much what happened was:
Things slowed down as we all waited for Rogers Gingerbread, as few people wanted to put significant efforts into Froyo. A few (like Bedwa and myself) did so more as a learning experience. The lull gave some of us time to learn and play.
Then Rogers GB came out - there was a heavy flurry of development for a few weeks, including trying to correct the deficiencies of the Rogers Gingerbread release. Correcting some of these deficiencies seemed to be nearly impossible - after multiple attempts, HDMI was hosed, data speeds were crap, and camera performance was blah.
There was also all the *****ing people did at gtg over the data speeds issue which made a lot of devs nervous about posting stuff here. Nopcodex90 almost released a GB ROM but after seeing how many people complained about fundamental uncorrectable problems with Rogers GB, I believe he decided to hold off until AT&T released Gingerbread.
So people started getting frustrated with basing anything on the Rogers release, and we all decided to take a break and have some beers rather than bash our heads against the wall for little return. On top of that LinuxBozo had some stuff come up in RL for a few weeks, and similarly I had the following chain of events make me fall behind on phone hacking:
1) Family visiting for Labor Day
2) Epic flooding (4-6 feet above previous record) where I live - I was living at a friend's 40 minutes away for a few days, then no power for a few more, and no hot water for nearly a week.
3) Nasty sinus infection - I'm just recovering from this now.
Also, thanks to Hellrasier, A LOT of new ROMs have opened up to the infuse. So check out the android development for the Samsung i9000. I've played around with a few and they work really well.
After Gingerbread is officially released more will pick up for the Infuse specifically but until then it's fun to try some of the 10-15 that the i9000 give us.
Will the I9000 ROMs work seamless with our phones?
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Will the I9000 ROMs work seamless with our phones?
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Yes those are some of the best to use with hellraiser
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Will the I9000 ROMs work seamless with our phones?
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Hellraiser isn't quite seamless - there are known issues with it such as no audio on the first call without toggling speaker on/off, and all of the typical Rogers Gingerbread warts.
The other known Hellraiser issue consistent across many ROMs is that if the ROM has a "battery fully charged" notification, this notification will stick until the device is rebooted. Does not affect ROMs that nuke the notification in the first place such as Mikey's S7.
But so far nearly all I9000 ROMs work equally well with Hellraiser.
What is Hellraiser? As u can see im on my infuse from Rogers which must be what the I997R stands for.
Can I use this Hellraiser thing on my Rogers infuse?
Please advise...
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What is Hellraiser? As u can see im on my infuse from Rogers which must be what the I997R stands for.
Can I use this Hellraiser thing on my Rogers infuse?
Please advise...
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Yes you can. It allows you to flash other samsung based roms. Ie the i9000 roms or others read the op
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ICS was just announced a few minutes ago. And then I started to wonder if we were going to get it at all. We don't even have an official GB build. So do u guys think we're going to get ICS, or GB for that matter?
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Wondering the same...well...
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Yes ports maybe offical but im sure ports are on the way
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Yes ports maybe offical but im sure ports are on the way
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Yea me two...or leaks (like we don't have enough of those already lol)
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NO!!
No!!!! at least not officially!
think about it, we haven't even been updated to gingerbread. 2.3 wont be out til next year!
Yes we will get ICS
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Probably only via CM9.
I will be very surprised if Samsung made a TW ICS build specifically for the SGS4G.
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Yeah it will.. Once i get my unicorn!
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No. No. And...... no.
Unofficially probably. No way is our outdated phone going to see an official build. It changes to much of the phone and how it looks.
The average dumbass would freak out if they updated and things changed. No.way would a phone manufacturer do that. Ever.
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I think we will get GB and then we are done. When this happens is when you need to buy a new phone.
I'd be happy with official GB right now. ICS seems highly unlikely.
I wouldnt hold my breath officially, but our awesome developers here are sure give us some ice cream lovin. Probably before we get official GB lol
Isn't google directly giving us ICS.
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Isn't google directly giving us ICS.
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They give you a stock build of it yes. But you need drivers, a kernel and suck to make it work with out hardware.
All of which we don't even have for gingerbread correctly let alone ics.
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actually, they are giving a fully functional universal build.
No and Im not sure why people even think we will get an unofficial version, didnt we only get a ghetto version of Gingerbread after an official Samsung leak? Why on earth would Samsung even attempt to make an ICS version for this phone? They need to actually make something to leak it, which is pretty much impossible given Samsungs business model.
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actually, they are giving a fully functional universal build.
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That's what I thought just didn't want to sound like a retard
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Ok thnx guys. I didnt we weren't getting it too. Just wishful thinking.
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You guys are doing it wrong. You give him the answer here wants and the thread dies
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Found this on HTC's side, it's being reported on Droid-life, as well:
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
They are claiming July-August for ICS. I'll believe it when I see it.
They did say earlier this year it would be near the end of q3 when they pushed the ota out. I would say if they are honestly trying to get the update out then it will be at the end of august or later. They almost always delay by 2 months usually.
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I know there is no actual for this, but, is there an about time frame for leaks before they release official? I guess I mean, is it feasible to say that there may be a leak by the end of June? I know, purely speculation. But fun to guess.
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There is no way to know that because if we get a leak then we get a leak. The only way we can get a leak is if someone puts it out there for us.
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Awesome, only four months before I get a new phone lol....better late than never I suppose.....praying for leaks with working ril that's all the devs need!
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That's what I'm waiting for, the leaks to start rolling out. All it takes is one good one!
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I've accepted it will never be here. Same with my SGT10.1
It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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I played around with sense 3.6 and ics on a tmobile phone (sensation maybe?? Lol I dont remember -_-) and it wasn't much different than sense 3.5 with a couple additions. Althoigh I do like how the folders open ))
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It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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How do you get that with no ril? Been runnin it on wifes dinc for 5 months, it all works, pretty smooth, but not fantastic
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Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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I saw this on the galaxy tab 7.7 forum that ICS is being released for the tab.
phandroid.com/2012/10/05/verizon-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7/
Isn't this supposed to give us a possible chance at ICS since they share similar hardware??
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The Charge really is way underpowered. All the later phones are much more powerful. They're not going to ever put any effort into this wimpy phone. FP5 was just the fix for the embarrassing crap software they were running on it before. Just run Tweaked 3.0 and keep it til you can get something better.
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The Charge really is way underpowered. All the later phones are much more powerful. They're not going to ever put any effort into this wimpy phone. FP5 was just the fix for the embarrassing crap software they were running on it before. Just run Tweaked 3.0 and keep it til you can get something better.
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This.
The Charge has always been a good phone, the problem is they gave the phones before and after it better hardware/software. Even the Thunderbolt which was released before the Charge is supposed to get some ICS love(official) and has ROMs for ICS. The Charge has always been over looked and under appreciated. If it had been given proper hardware and a lil lovin' it would be right below the Nexus. At this point it is ridiculous that Samsung won't just give up the RIL so that some more can be done to try and bring the Charge back from the dead. All I gotta say is thank god Dwitherell stuck it out and made the Charge more of what it should have been.
I have a question, if this is a slightly refreshed Nexus S, and the Nexus S can run both ICS and JB, then why can't this phone? From a hardware perspective, I know Samsung obviously doesn't want to spend the time and money to create ICS for their bastard child phone.
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I have a question, if this is a slightly refreshed Nexus S, and the Nexus S can run both ICS and JB, then why can't this phone? From a hardware perspective, I know Samsung obviously doesn't want to spend the time and money to create ICS for their bastard child phone.
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It's not about phone capabilities, really. It's about 2 things. First, this is a limited user base device. Second, this is a skinned device, and there's not enough room in the system partition for the skinned version of ICS or JB to run.
AOSP ICS and JB do run, and from what little I messed with CM9 on the Charge, it ran quite nicely. There's no mobile data with it though, because the RIL has proven to be tough to crack, but as far as hardware capabilities, it can run stock...just not the TouchWiz skinned versions.
My DC is wifi only and I would love to play with ics or jb on here.
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My DC is wifi only and I would love to play with ics or jb on here.
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