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Currently have Vibrant. How is your dev coming on GS4G?

hey all. I currently have a Vibrant, but I may have the option to move to a galaxy S 4g. We have great development on the Vibrant. I know for a while the development on GS4G was really slow, but how is it now? has it picked up? do you guys have official GB, or at least leaks of official GB? how are you custom froyo roms?
Thanks guys,
just would really like to know this before I make the move

You could also check out our development forum. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of development for the SGS4G, and there are GB leaks. I am not sure if we actually have official GB though.

pudgybunnyBry said:
You could also check out our development forum. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of development for the SGS4G, and there are GB leaks. I am not sure if we actually have official GB though.
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Kg6 was an official leak
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Oh development has really picked up. Flash a rom one day and a brand new one comes out the next. As for gingerbread, we don't have an official yet but the leaks are perfectly fine especially when turned into a rom. Much better than the froyo roms.
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I gotta agree with everyone else here. One thing to keep in mind is that flashing with the SGS4G is different than flashing with the Vibrant.

Still slow, most roms are leaks. That said, gb touch wiz isn't that horrible, haha.
When cm7 starts rolling I suspect development will pick up rapidly. Crossing my fingers for miui.
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overthinkingme said:
Still slow, most roms are leaks. That said, gb touch wiz isn't that horrible, haha.
When cm7 starts rolling I suspect development will pick up rapidly. Crossing my fingers for miui.
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ya well give the sgs4g credit at least its getting a gb rom from the manufacture the poor vibrant gb roms yes there good are all ports from other devices

actually almost all these leaks are official from samsung only kf1 and kf2 i think were sammyfirmware

I'm waiting for miui
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G2x future development

Hey everyone, I currently have a Samsung vibrant but I'm looking to upgrade. The G2x looks sick and since the galaxy s2 isn't out for tmo yet I'm trying to decide what to get.
Long story short, does development seem to be slowing for this device? I've been watching some of the rom threads for a while now and trigger seems to be abandoned.
Just wondering because I'm addicted to flashing and if the future is bleek for the G2x it'd be nice to know haha.
Vibrant+MIUI

Just wait for the sgs2. g2x is slowly dwindled away.
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rvdangel630 said:
Just wait for the sgs2. g2x is slowly dwindled away.
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Its not slowly dwindling, its dwindled
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Its not slowly dwindling, its dwindled
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I was also waiting for SGS2. But since the model will have 4.5'' screen, I'll rather stay with G2x. 4.5'' is way bigger that what I can handle

I unfortunately just got the g2x and it development is (compared to active forums) non-existent. Seems no one gives a **** or people that like making roms do not own this phone.

Baleme it on nvidia...

I agree, if nVidia would release their proprietary drivers, the devs could get working again.
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What exactly do people want from development? We have a few stable ROMs, CM is going forward. Once you achieve stability or relative stability, development does stop. I don't see a point of having 20 different ROMs with only visual differences, like many other phones here with a lot of so-called development do.
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herzzreh said:
What exactly do people want from development? We have a few stable ROMs, CM is going forward. Once you achieve stability or relative stability, development does stop. I don't see a point of having 20 different ROMs with only visual differences, like many other phones here with a lot of so-called development do.
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Well said. In the past I have flashed my phones so often (dailies on CM6) that I never got to enjoy my phone. Was flashing it every day (sometimes twice a day) and then dealing with bugs and annoyances in the dailies. Some people are addicted to flashing; but who wants to flash constantly to set your phone back up and then flash it again. Plus, eventually you might brick it. On the G2X I just want to enjoy having a speedy phone with little or no problems, that is why the only ROM I have flashed is the GB update and haven't even bothered to root it yet. So far enjoying my phone immensely just using it as intended.

herzzreh said:
What exactly do people want from development? We have a few stable ROMs, CM is going forward. Once you achieve stability or relative stability, development does stop. I don't see a point of having 20 different ROMs with only visual differences, like many other phones here with a lot of so-called development do.
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Well said. In the past I have flashed my phones so often (dailies on CM6) that I never got to enjoy my phone. Was flashing it every day (sometimes twice a day) and then dealing with bugs and annoyances in the dailies. Some people are addicted to flashing; but who wants to flash constantly to set your phone back up and then flash it again. Plus, eventually you might brick it. On the G2X I just want to enjoy having a speedy phone with little or no problems, that is why the only ROM I have flashed is the GB update and haven't even bothered to root it yet. So far enjoying my phone immensely just using it as intended.
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this.
I came from a vibrant too where I was flashing multiple times a week, constantly tweaking to find performance and stability. then when I got my g2x something felt strange.. took a while for me to realize that it was because after weeks of owning the phone all I had done was rooted it. didn't have to flash anything. it took some getting used to but I can say for sure that I wasn't enjoying my vibrant due to the constant messing around. this phone i enjoy because I just get to use it.

regP said:
this.
I came from a vibrant too where I was flashing multiple times a week, constantly tweaking to find performance and stability. then when I got my g2x something felt strange.. took a while for me to realize that it was because after weeks of owning the phone all I had done was rooted it. didn't have to flash anything. it took some getting used to but I can say for sure that I wasn't enjoying my vibrant due to the constant messing around. this phone i enjoy because I just get to use it.
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Same here. I never find my perfect rom for Vibrant. Too many rom / kernel / modem made me flashing every other day. Every time I wished that the new flash would give be better GPS / Speed / Battery.
Now with G2x I am pretty happy that I have a stable rom with everything I need.

I say wait either for the sgs 2 or the htc 4g amaze.

Was offered a nexus s for my g2x, running weapon rom and very solid besides battery life . cyanogen data is now working for me as well, decisions decisions
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I'm going back to the mytouch 4g because development is slow here.I just enjoy new stuff coming out than trying it
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osugsxr said:
Was offered a nexus s for my g2x, running weapon rom and very solid besides battery life . cyanogen data is now working for me as well, decisions decisions
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I'll trade that guy!
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It may be dwindled, and flashing can be fun sometimes. But mostly I just want a super fast, daily driver with the least amount of bugs. Most of the roms right now have been about as stable as can be expected with better kernels too. I'm happy for all the effort anyone has put in to allow me to not be stuck on stock...seriously try going back and realize what we have available.
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Should I swap SGS4G for G2X or Sensation 4G?

It's been a tough haul for me with Tmobile/Samsung Galaxy phones. I started with a Vibrant with its GPS problems. After two T-mobile Vibrant swap outs and various software updates that accomplished little, they swapped for a SGS4G.
The SGS4G was no better on GPS and T-mobile wouldn't swap to anything else.
I never had a data contract, just used wifi for data. Last week I jumped on the $30 unlimited data prepaid plan. Well it turns out my SGS4G won't get cell data, not on Froyo not on Gingerbread.
So T-mobile now offers me a swap for another SGS4G or a LG-G2X or a HTC Sensation 4G. I'm posting here in case anyone with SGS4G experience also has some with the other phones.
It seems to me that its obvious I should switch. Both the LG and HTC are dual core and the Samsung is not. HTC has already committed to ICS on it, and LG has at least said the no ICS for G2X rumor has no basis. We all know Samsung is incredibly slow at updates, and their certainly is skepticism in this forum that they will ever have ICS for the SGS4G.
As to which to switch to, I'm not sure. The ICS commitment by HTC is certainly a plus. After my experience with Samsung my main issues are:
-- A well working GPS
-- Timely software updates
-- A potent hacking community
Any comments to help me decide?

I'd say get the sensation, i would if i ever got the chance. This phone is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but i just like the sensation. Never had an lg so i have no clue what that phone brings. I got this phone not knowing about XDA and modding. Once i found out about those, i kinda regretted getting this phone, but now things are better since we have official gingerbread and a great community that's here to help. I'm getting off topic now, so to answer your question, I'd say the sensation. OR you can stick with this phone and see what the future brings.
Hope i helped.
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I definitely agree. Sensations commitment to ICS is good enough for me but the hardware facts just beat out the sgs 4g. I do like the sgs 4g screen and resolution tho. But other than that, get sensation. My mom (I'm only 17 so i haven't moved out ) has it and I've been able to play with it. Hands down just a better phone. And i regret getting the phone too. This is my first android and did me soooo much justice, but for Modding and rooting it just isn't exactly the best. Sensation all the way. Hope I helped
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Yea the sensation should be your choice..I bought this phone without the intention of rooting it or anything,also I lost my last one so i needed a phone quick..if i knew the info i know now,i would of had another phone like maybe the mytouch 4g..So yea in short make the switch,easy.
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Samsung has neglected this phone in terms of updates. The Sensation is great if you want ICS, if that's not the biggest deal to you I'd get the Samsung Galaxy SII, as Samsung phones are well built, but with any Samsung phone don't expect an update within any timely manner.

I would get anything.g that could run CM. wink.
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I would get anything.g that could run CM. wink.
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Word lol
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G2X since it initially has a better battery because of AOSP and it always will get any CM before Sensation.
I want a swap sooo bad.

Get a sensation and sell it and youll be able to buy the sgs4g or the g2x and have extra cash.
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Man if I could switch. .. then again just about anyone would say that ;p
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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+1 me too.
oh and get the sensation. Even though I think you already knew that before you posted this thread just to make all of us jelous

I owned a g2x and it was bad. Very very bad. It was also the first batch of them. I hear they fixed a lot of the issues. I own a sgs4g and a sensation. The sensation has more options Rom and kernel wise. Speed wise my sgs4g with all its mods is just as fast. The sgs4g seems to have faster data speeds. The screen on the sgs4g is better. If custom roms and mods are what your after get the sensation. Performance wise a properly set up sgs4g may have a slight edge do to data speed. The sensation is confirmed to be getting ics as well a.d they are working on a port as well. Hope that helps.
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josepresas said:
what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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+1
Need good excuses
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G2x for a faster phone with a good screen and speakers.
Sensation for ROM's and Sense.
But you can't really go wrong with either one. Good luck.
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I'm kicking myself. After they offered me the Sensation or G2X, I waited a week to make a choice and get past Thanksgiving. When I called back their database had changed and would only offer another SGS4G.
Apparently the database changes from time to time based on factors I can only guess. They said that at the moment for a Vibrant they had multiple choices.

That sucks. Big time.
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kmandel said:
I'm kicking myself. After they offered me the Sensation or G2X, I waited a week to make a choice and get past Thanksgiving. When I called back their database had changed and would only offer another SGS4G.
Apparently the database changes from time to time based on factors I can only guess. They said that at the moment for a Vibrant they had multiple choices.
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Mannnnn, that sucks. I would have jumped on the Sensation or G2x the second they asked me.
The SGS4G is good for what it is, but it's been highly gimped on the dev side and has no CM love.
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Ics to droid charge?

So apparently HTC has updated their list of devices receiving ICS... 2 of which being the Thunderbolt and Incredible 2. Clearly HTC and Samsung are seperate companies, but seeing how both these devices were released well before the DC maybe Samsung will give us some official ICS love.
Thoughts?
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It's a thought, maybe I can come back to bed and dream some more on ICS for the Charge! hehe.

They haven't released RIL wouldn't hold my breath.
Would be nice of them but I don't see that happening for months. If at all. Sammy isn't that great for pushing updates IMO from past phones..
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Points in favor of the Charge getting ICS:
It was a flagship phone, dropping support would tarnish Samsung's reputation
Contemporary phones seem to be getting ICS
The Charge has just been released for US Cellular as the Galaxy S Aviator, and 18 months of updates means it pretty much has to get ICS...
Points against the Charge getting ICS:
The Galaxy S isn't getting ICS, because Samsung says it doesn't have enough memory... and has the same amount of memory as the Charge.
Honestly, I have no idea what to expect at this point...

For now I would treat ICS on Droid Charge as....a miracle! rare to happen...but possible.

We'll have a better shot of a dev porting it before Samsung.
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Samsung, updating Droid Charge would be like putting it on the Fascinate...same phone Charge just has LTE
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Samsung has said that the original galaxy s phones aren't getting ics because they don't have enough ram after samsung puts tw on it. I will assume the galaxy s 1.5 phones aren't getting it either because they have just as much ram.
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It's been.pretty much said by Samsung that the Galaxy S line(including variations) won't get ICS since they want to include TW with it. That would, I assume, require more memory. Our only hope would be 100% stock ICS ported over.
But damn, if the Nexus S had LTE, that probably would have helped a bit.
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Yea my thing is .... Samsung would look hella bad if they didn't and HTC did update phones released prior to DC .Aside from that Sense is a lot more of a memory hog than tw... the thunderbolt ONLY has 25% more ram.. then again it has 25 % more ram so who knows
RE- ril; the fact that Samsung doesn't seem to want to release the code doesn't mean they wont release ICS... ril doesn't need to be public for them to release an official build... or am I mistaken?
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You are not. The RIL is just a necessity for a community build of it, which would likely come out much sooner than an official one if we could get ahold of it

The problem isn't the amount of RAM, it is the amount of space allocated for /system on the device. If they would include TouchWiz, it likely would not have enough space left for everything. However, the fact that I have heard there are internal builds of ICS for the Charge is promising. Also, the fact that the Thunderbolt is getting ICS helps our case as well.

Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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Being that the charge and epic are so similar besides the keyboard, you guys should get with our devs and see if you can port over our cm9.
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We have cm9 besides the radio
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
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The charge seems like a really nice device. I'm surprised there isn't a ton of development for it. My friend was about to get rid of his till I had him root and eclipse it. Hope it picks up around here for everyone. Thought my epic was done for a while too, then all of a sudden, all kinds of goodies started popping up.
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Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
Check the android development forum
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There isn't a daily driver ICS build. Wifi only build is out so far. RIL is what's holding us back. :/
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djjroc007 said:
Do you have link to it?
I have two friends with a charge. I rooted a flashed eclipse on one of them. Just haven't seen anything cm, or miui related in your forums. Just curious why no support in those areas. Unless its on other sites and I missed it. Would love to give them some ics cm9 if its functional enough to use as a daily.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434387
This is a PORT for the DC, as mentioned its only network connectivity is via wifi.
And for a good laugh read the entire thread.. but please dont add anymore garnage comments ... its just a good topic that got WAY out of hand
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We have been forgotten.

Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.

Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.

I'm still here!

Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.

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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.

im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.

rajuabju said:
Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?

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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.

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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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