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Thunderbolt and Android taking it on the chin!

Thunderbolt is behind in the finals.Help it out and vote for it.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/smart-phone-madness-2011-final-hp-pre-3-vs-htc-thunderbolt
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The 'Bolt is WAY behind the HP Pre 3?! That thing looks horrible! Ug-lee.
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Love the phone but not enough to vote for it. Very upset with the battery issues this phone is having. So for me voting is almost like recommending it to someone. It's actually making me miss my T-Mobile g2 I had. They should of had that phone on the list.
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It's kind of lame they're comparing it to a phone that won't come out for another 3-4 months. They must be webOS fanboys (though webOS is nice all around, just needs a platform to run on) but really, comparing a phone you can have now to a phone you can have sometime in the summer when it's barely spring right now?
At least they're not comparing to jesusphone 5 (which wont be out for another 7-8 months if that)

Yes, I agree, it should only be open to phones that actually exist. I'm sure there will be an HTC out in 2 years that will kick all their asses - lets put it in the bracket, too...
P.S. - It IS ugly. Looks like Salvador Dali painted a Blackberry...

Palm has a physical keyboard fetish they wont get over, but obviously they could design a phone better that has a keyboard too. The first pixie phone (horrible name though) was pretty well designed.

To be honest, that whole "bracket" is bull****.

Darkreignn said:
Love the phone but not enough to vote for it. Very upset with the battery issues this phone is having. So for me voting is almost like recommending it to someone. It's actually making me miss my T-Mobile g2 I had. They should of had that phone on the list.
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What battery issue? I get ~1.5-2 days.

bmcclure937 said:
To be honest, that whole "bracket" is bull****.
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After looking at it a little closer I have to agree. I mean really, the BB Torch in the final four? Weak.
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animez said:
After looking at it a little closer I have to agree. I mean really, the BB Torch in the final four? Weak.
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Exactly. And although I do not like the iPhone, it should definitely make an appearance in the Final Four... but I guess that is why it is called March Madness.
LOL

Use an early upgrade?

Okay, stupid topic, but I have to ask. Looking at selling my Fascinate and taking an early upgrade to a Thunderbolt. Seems to be a completely solid device, and I would love to get an HTC back in my hands after a year of Sammy pains.
Looking to find out from the folks who've had it for a minute what their opinions are?
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Daswolven said:
Okay, stupid topic, but I have to ask. Looking at selling my Fascinate and taking an early upgrade to a Thunderbolt. Seems to be a completely solid device, and I would love to get an HTC back in my hands after a year of Sammy pains.
Looking to find out from the folks who've had it for a minute what their opinions are?
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So far, so good. I haven't rooted mine, because I really haven't felt the need yet.
I'm coming from the Sammy Vibrant, and I loved the phone.
I like this one better. Much more responsive, and it doesn't fall prey to the lag issues, the primary reason I rooted my Vibrant in the first place.
I'd say go do it. Awesome phone.
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I upgraded from a D1. I kinda miss some of the control I had over that phone, but the devs had a lot time to master that device. The TB will get there as well especially since a lot of devs & themers have the phone.
I rooted mine so I could remove all the bloat (~250mb of junk). I am running the latest RUU and with a custom kernel.
I have been very happy with the Tbolt. The battery life has been better than I expected.

It's a great phone. I'd recommend it!

I love it but why not wait. You made it this far. In a month or so there will be better phones.
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The only things I miss about the Fascinate is the size/weight and the gps. I get better reception with the bolt and I love being able to use data while I'm on the phone. If the boro has coverage like Hinesville, you'll welcome the better reception.

I had a fascinate too. Yea Def make the switch. Battery isn't as good, but it charges quick it about 40 times less laggy and runs circles around it. I had many issues with the fascinate with this not so much.

I would get one on eBay and save the upgrade in case you dont like it on either an iPhone 5 or Bionic when (if) they come out in a few months.

Daswolven said:
Okay, stupid topic, but I have to ask. Looking at selling my Fascinate and taking an early upgrade to a Thunderbolt. Seems to be a completely solid device, and I would love to get an HTC back in my hands after a year of Sammy pains.
Looking to find out from the folks who've had it for a minute what their opinions are?
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Hey man, been a while. I too wanted another HTC device and I have to say development has been stellar! Reminds me of when I had my Dinc before I had the Facinate.
Good luck. PM me if you have specific questions.
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papi92 said:
I love it but why not wait. You made it this far. In a month or so there will be better phones.
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Which specifically? I've looked, and don't really see any offerings I'd be interested on the way. I won't touch moto, and the inc2 is inferior. Do you have intel I missed?
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crookshanks said:
The only things I miss about the Fascinate is the size/weight and the gps. I get better reception with the bolt and I love being able to use data while I'm on the phone. If the boro has coverage like Hinesville, you'll welcome the better reception.
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Ha. I'm just ready to move on, and the feedback is helpful. There's really nothing wrong with the Fascinate, outside of it just feels chicky overall, no matter what.
My Nexus felt solid.
Seems like most of our devs jumped, and that says alot. Feedback is appreciated guys, thanks.
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The phone is great, especially if you get LTE. Even if you don't though... it's the best phone they've got.

Daswolven said:
Ha. I'm just ready to move on, and the feedback is helpful. There's really nothing wrong with the Fascinate, outside of it just feels chicky overall, no matter what.
My Nexus felt solid.
Seems like most of our devs jumped, and that says alot. Feedback is appreciated guys, thanks.
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+1 fascinate forums are quiet now!
I jumped ship too last weekend and so far I'm loving it. rooting it is quite a pain tho, the fascinate was definitely easier to root. My battery life is the same or better than the fascinate while rooted on comm rom. radio and gps is much better on the tbolt too, at least in my experience.

jackmei2 said:
+1 fascinate forums are quiet now!
I jumped ship too last weekend and so far I'm loving it. rooting it is quite a pain tho, the fascinate was definitely easier to root. My battery life is the same or better than the fascinate while rooted on comm rom. radio and gps is much better on the tbolt too, at least in my experience.
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GPS on my Fascinate was instant and accurate - within 3-5 feet usually. On my Thunderbolt it takes at least a minute to get a lock and it's never even close to 30 feet. I guess I was one of the few people with a Fascinate that had great gps from the minute I got it...

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GPS on my Fascinate was instant and accurate - within 3-5 feet usually. On my Thunderbolt it takes at least a minute to get a lock and it's never even close to 30 feet. I guess I was one of the few people with a Fascinate that had great gps from the minute I got it...
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yea, you were definitely lucky! as of community rom, and the ED01 radio, it took at least a minute to lock on (which was better than before when it would take 5 min to lock on). my tbolt locks instantly, even inside.

I used an early upgrade to get my t-bolt, and I love it! DEFINITELY go for it.

Well first off verizon is suppose to get an lg monster like tmo. Also id wait just too see what htc is pushing out. Then you do have moto actually talking about doing what sony is to there phones. Aka go online type your esn in and they give you a specific unlock code for your phone but voids warranty for anything not having to do with bad hardware.
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papi92 said:
Well first off verizon is suppose to get an lg monster like tmo. Also id wait just too see what htc is pushing out. Then you do have moto actually talking about doing what sony is to there phones. Aka go online type your esn in and they give you a specific unlock code for your phone but voids warranty for anything not having to do with bad hardware.
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Appreciated, but no way I'm going near an LG. I never keep a phone for more than a year, so it's not a big deal. If my fassy does well on Ebay, might make the move next week. All the feedback has been appreciated.
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Love my thunderbolt! I did come from an Eris tho so I am quite awestruck.

Another one of these threads, eh?
There are several others, FYI.
All in all, I would think, despite the shortcomings (battery, gps, kinks), that most people here are in fact happy with their Thunderbolt. There have been, in my opinion -- and in such a short period of time -- great strides in development on this device.
My personal favorites (in no particular order):
- Voice + Data simultaneously;
- Ample RAM;
- Strong developer support;
- A fairly vibrant (albeit not necessarily the best) screen;
- Plenty of speed viz. no lag;
- Made by HTC;
- Easy to root (thanks to those who tirelessly made it easy to do with adb);
- 4G LTE!
My personal grudges (YMMV):
- GPS location acquisition;
- Battery efficacy (but remember, this phone isn't just a beast, but it's a first-in-class);
- Random reboots (more kinks that will be worked out, I'm sure).
If I had it to do over again, I would still have bought the Thunderbolt!
Good luck in whatever decision you make.

Not that anyone cares....

But just thought I'd say I'm back to using my sgs4g as my daily driver.
I have been using the g2x for the past couple months, but my galaxy is honestly just a better phone. And with octane 3.0 its damn near as fast. With twice the battery. More sensitive (and brighter) touch screen. Stronger signal. Louder speaker. Thinner and lighter. And modern combat 2 plays just as smooth and beautiful, though I'll still use my g2x for some games. Deadspace occasionally stutters just a tad on sgs4g vs perfect on g2x. And I'll miss the flash on my g2x since I often use it as a flashlight.
So anyways just thought I'd remind you all this old phone really isn't so far behind performance wise as the newest phones would have us believe.
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Totally agree.
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use chainfire and have it reduce texture size and unroll 32 bit textures that will fix the games sight stutter

I'll keep that in mind for future gaming, though the "stuttering" is literally so minimal I honestly don't think I would've even noticed it if I hadn't already been playing deadspace on the g2x.
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Adding my two cents here:
Bought my daughter a g2x for Christmas, even made a topic about how I wanted to switch phones with her.
Now that I had some time to play with it, I can honestly say that all in all, I would prefer to keep my phone.

When I got my sgs4g i was originally going for a g2x but it was out of stock. I went ahead and got this because my hd2 died and I was phoneless...
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HM, when my screen broke, I thought my parents wouldn't ever buy me another phone that's android, but then I saw the Tmobile Comet!! A piece of garbage worse than the G1, smaller screen, bad touchscreen, made out of cheap toy plastic, but android 2.2.1. So I thought that if anything, I would get that. It was also offered as a free phone with new contract, but, then I have no idea what happened to my dad and I got an SGS4G!?!/!/!?

airfluip1 said:
HM, when my screen broke, I thought my parents wouldn't ever buy me another phone that's android, but then I saw the Tmobile Comet!! A piece of garbage worse than the G1, smaller screen, bad touchscreen, made out of cheap toy plastic, but android 2.2.1. So I thought that if anything, I would get that. It was also offered as a free phone with new contract, but, then I have no idea what happened to my dad and I got an SGS4G!?!/!/!?
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I actuslly regretted getting this phone for awhile... Now im glad i still have it . I was even thinking about trading/selling it on craigslist!
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leo321 said:
When I got my sgs4g i was originally going for a g2x but it was out of stock. I went ahead and got this because my hd2 died and I was phoneless...
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Same here lol. I also regretted it for a while, but I'm glad I got this one. Lol
-Sent From My Amazing SGS4G-

I tried selling mine on craigslist after getting the g2x, guess refusing to go under $200 was to much!
Now I'm glad it didn't sell, as much as I do like the g2x its just not worth the headache as a daily driver. And mine wasn't even a bad one! Guess I'll probably stick with Samsung from now on.
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Trading SR for a Glide. Good choice?

I really liked the keyboard on my old LG. Specs don't seem that spread apart. Any opinions? I'm Also getting $65 cash.
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for me its a terrible choice...but hey, if you put a physical keyboard in front of having the best android phone on the market, then sure, why not. I guess its a personal choice over specs

im not a fan of the glide.

Is LTE important to you?

No i don't get LTE
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mariol66 said:
I really liked the keyboard on my old LG. Specs don't seem that spread apart. Any opinions? I'm Also getting $65 cash.
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There's no substitute for a physical keyboard. Period. You're going to type better on the Glide, and that's a basic usability factor.
I was pretty much sold on the Glide myself, but I jumped to the Skyrocket because it was very important to me to get a phone that was more future proof, given my last experience, and the Glide is not, and (I'm speculating) will probably not get Ice Cream Sandwich. That's a big deal to me.
HOWEVER, if I was the kind of guy who bought a new phone every year and wasn't planning to be stuck with it for two years, I would have gotten the Glide. It's absolutely a good phone.

Honestly, that seems like a terrible trade and your getting ripped off. If you really really wanted to do that, your better off selling it for straight cash and buying one cheap from Ebay, Craigslist.
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If i sell it the most I'd get is around 360-80 which is the average price of the glide on eBay
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Whatever phone you like to use and feel most comfortable with is the one you should get. Don't have a phone you don't like just because other people think it's better.
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Frogacuda said:
There's no substitute for a physical keyboard. Period. You're going to type better on the Glide, and that's a basic usability factor.
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im sorry but i totally disagree...luckly, the human brain adapts quite well. ive had a gs2 for 6 months and i can type better and faster than you on your glide and even better and faster than most on a computer. you get used to it very fast, at least i did

Well for emulators the physical keyboard will be best. I think I'm gonna give it a go. They have roms too plus i can get my taste of ICS with my galaxy gab 10.1 with CM9
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The Skyrocket has great rom support. I have one and completly love it. It all comes down to personal preference though. I came from a phone with a slide qwerty and I always said I would never get a phone that did't have one. Well I got my skyrocket and guess what... I got used to not have a physical keyboard.

polish_pat said:
im sorry but i totally disagree...luckly, the human brain adapts quite well. ive had a gs2 for 6 months and i can type better and faster than you on your glide and even better and faster than most on a computer. you get used to it very fast, at least i did
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There's a lot to be said for no-look typing (and the improved accuracy that comes with it), which is virtually impossible with a touchscreen and effortless with a physical keyboard. Also, things like switching to extended characters always slow me down on a touch screen, but don't on a physical keyboard.
The Skyrocket is certainly the better piece of hardware, quite a bit faster, larger/better screen and obviously much slimmer. But the Glide's still a dual core phone with a Super AMOLED screen, and for many users it's not the kind of thing that would be a big sacrifice to get that keyboard.

S3 best phone so far?

Well i personaly think it is but i have a question.
Will the new iphone be able to take it off its highhorse?
I just bought the new ipad and gotta say its very cool.
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Sir, please post questions in the Q&A section, this has been moved there.

Ok thank you.
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The iPhone will create extreme hype and there will be TONS of buyers. IPhone always wins most sold phone. Always.
Generally people thinks that makes it the best phone but there is nothing apple can do to actually make an iOS device better than an ANdroid
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I wouldn't say there's nothing they can do, but I don't think they will. It's about preference and what people buy more of doesn't equate to what the best device is. More Ford F150's have been sold than any other vehicle in America in many studies. That doesn't make the F150 better than many sport coupes at the same price point, just for meeting different needs.
The same logic can be applied to Android phones. So many people say Samsung has horrible build quality, because they use plastic. Plastic has many properties that are better for smartphones than metal. It's lighter, better for heat dissipation, more forgiving of drops, etc. That doesn't mean that some people might prefer how sturdy an HTC phone feels.
There is no best. It's about preference.