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More Understanding of newcomers.

More and more i see in the forums newcomers asking for legitimate advice and guidance, and some even preface there lack of english, and yet i see other relative newcomers flame them, and sometimes even members/senior members also join the band wagon.
Some moderators have no qualms in flaming also... you know who you are.
Sure, there are those newcomers that have nothing better to do than start a thread for the enjoyment of pissing people off...I am confident the Mods will nuke them quickly.
I joined the site for the camaraderie and knowledge that is brought to the table.
Friendly banter is healthy , but abusive and racist comments should stop.
My 2 cents worth here, Don't respond to flamers as they want to bask in their glory and if we bite back we are no better than them.
I want my forums back to how they used to be. friendly, helpful, humourous.
The only way to get the respect we deserve is to lead by example.
Gets off my soapbox.
Waits to be flamed for this post...lol

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Your post should be stickied and copied to all the forums.
Thanks for your two cents.
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I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are right. New phone, new rooting method, threads that aren't 100 pages long, plus we are all to some degree noobs here has made an exemplary forum.
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I can't stand it when people jump all over noobs. All the time I see people getting their heads bitten off & actually being called names by senior members just for asking simple questions. It's positively shameful & it needs to stop. If they're asking stupid questions or being rude, yeah I can understand some backlash for that but sometimes it seems like the senior members just wanna chase off new people. XDA is supposed to be a community of smart people with an interest in phone modding but sometimes we act like an 8th grade class.
We were all noobs once & we need to remember that before we scream at someone for asking a question that- *GASP*- may have been answered before. A gentle reminder to search will suffice, no need to rip them a new one. And we also need to consider that not everyone knows exactly what terms to search for & that search is down for maintenance half the time to begin with.

moh0 said:
I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.
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The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.

Well said OP! Most of the XDA gang usually helps one another...

APPLAUSE ...APPLAUSE
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Super Chimp said:
The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.
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XDA is more a community than a school. In order to be a functioning part of a community, you must go through the motions of becoming a valuable member. I'm not condoning the bashing of noobs. But if new users constantly ask silly questions, something has to be said about it.

[Q] Why do all members think there admins?

I posted 2 threads today from my phone the xda app keep crashing. I posted pics in separate post the app was giving me an error. Then 3 members decided to start trolling about i'm bumping constantly. I feel if you had common sense you could se the times of the first post were close together. The thread would have been near the top anyway. I told them the issues i was having with the app. They all seemed to think I was lying or stupid. I have alot going on my wife is sick they dont know what it is. The rare conditions our never a good thing only selling the items both new a love. The specialist she has to see is out of network and out of town. Instead of any of these senior members pm with there concerns they all wanted to argue on the thread thus keeping it it up on the top longer anyway. I'm not out here trying to cheat or break rules here. Xda is suppose to be a community. I just wonder why these members could not have just taken me at my word.

First of all, sorry to hear about your wife. I truly hope things improve
Now onto the matter at hand.
Unfortunately, as you said, a lot of users around the forums do like to troll people who have genuine problems and questions. They do it in an attempt to seem like they have some meaning in their lives.
The best way to deal with them is simply not to reply to them at all, otherwise situations can very easily get out of hand.
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"Knowledge is power" = Check out this [GUIDE] How to be a New User (and not a noob)

[Q] Why do all members don´t read&search before posting?
Next time you´ll get an infraction.
There is already a thread for XDA app
challa3223 said:
I posted 2 threads today from my phone the xda app keep crashing. I posted pics in separate post the app was giving me an error. Then 3 members decided to start trolling about i'm bumping constantly. I feel if you had common sense you could se the times of the first post were close together. The thread would have been near the top anyway. I told them the issues i was having with the app. They all seemed to think I was lying or stupid. I have alot going on my wife is sick they dont know what it is. The rare conditions our never a good thing only selling the items both new a love. The specialist she has to see is out of network and out of town. Instead of any of these senior members pm with there concerns they all wanted to argue on the thread thus keeping it it up on the top longer anyway. I'm not out here trying to cheat or break rules here. Xda is suppose to be a community. I just wonder why these members could not have just taken me at my word.
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Shut up - moderator note - how not to make a post

Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!

This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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sptrsn said:
This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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Thanks, I am just getting frustrated, that you start reading some threads, and most of them are getting hijacked with the same ole stuff, put it in one area, and delete it from the rest.
As far as banning me, so be it, by the time I return the forum might just be cleaned. I am NOT the only person that has already thought of this. If it would make everyone happy, I reported myself for this thread to be deleted.

TheAxman said:
Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
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this is the internet, what are you sincerely expecting?

Thread closed...If anyone wants opinions, go log on to social media for them. This here is a development site, contribute to that or log off - do not clutter threads with this stuff.
To clarify a couple other points, the general section of any thread is NOT for opinions like this, so it is not okay. Nor is creating this type of flotsam and jetsum and then self-reporting it while being self righteous in the process. When you accepted membership here, you agreed to post by the rules, and this thread is a great example of what not to do.
Oh yeah, always help a new user, and if you are confronted with disrespectful users, report the posts, and do not feed trolls or trollers.... Moderators are standing by to assist.

Free hechoen

As some of you may or may not know Hechoen has received a ban from the forums. The ban is his first and is for ten days. The reason for the action was "Disrespectful attitude towards moderator." Some background follows. He was PM'd by a mod to remove his avatar within 48 hours. The mod seemed to think that it could be offensive to some members. His avatar has been around for a long time and was a cartoon of a guy giving the middle finger with the words "Censor this!". As we all know an avatar is an extension of your online personality. To get an idea of whether or not the community found it offensive he posted a question about it in the off-topic thread(that he created). He never named the mod or said anything "disrespectful" towards the mod. Within minutes the post was deleted and he was banned. So I ask any of you that think this action unfair to please respond here. Also feel free to PM a mod(or five) with a link to this thread. If others believe this to be unfair and we unite as a community maybe, just maybe, we'll make a difference.
Sincerely,
Beastmode

To any mods reading this, it would be nice to have a link to the avatar rules for the forums. Thanks.

He has been helping out here as
long as I have been around..always
seems to help where he can..sounds
like they used the avatar thing as an excuse...he has had that avatar as long as I remember... Mods cut him some slack...give him a warning and let it go....
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i might be somewhat a noob but hechoen has been on the sgs4g forums way before i joined and new what roms were he plays an importnd role in xda

Don't worry, the mods have heard our petition and hechoen will be unbanned in approximately 9 more days It's a problem with the forum software, we just can't make it unblock anyone faster than that.

wow really he has never been anything but nice to people ..../failpalm

maybe if i added a little neon effect or something, then it might just be a little appropriate? :banghead:
sent from within pure darkness

It is a good thing he was banned
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No. Hechoen is a good person. A finger is not offensive, it's what you associate the finger with.
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Not that I agree with the ban, but, wasn't he asking to be censored?

I don't know the guy personally but this isn't the first time a mod has abused their powers. Most don't, but then again what can you really do? Hope he's unbanned shortly. And to all the mods not on a power trip, please keep up the fine work we appreciate you.
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androidskillz said:
It is a good thing he was banned
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Why is that??? Please explain the comment.

CSP III said:
Why is that??? Please explain the comment.
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He's a menace to society! The more he helps people the more they'll keep coming back. It burdens all the devs 'cause people keep asking questions since they know they'll receive an answer.

hutson23 said:
Bad message....
Influencing others?
Come on...
What's he a role model now...?
That's a stupid statement...
What is the influence..to give people
the finger...grow-up dude !!
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It's the general principal. He got banned for the reason of portraying a bad image/message to others. Duh
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Well, guess what folks?
This thread itself has been reported, and thus cleaned and closed.
XDA is a development forum, off topic discussion is allowed to some extent to afford users to create relationships that strengthen bonds and friendships that will, hopefully, lead towards a stronger development community and thus, possibly better product for the masses.
BUT you need to also understand the following post - some may have read this before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
That being said - this website, and the threads within, are really for development and the developers. Moderators are merely here to make sure that the aforementioned development, along with the published rules, are being abided by.
Regardless of whether moderators do the popular thing or not, we do what we do with sincere interest for the community as a whole. Users who want to challenge the rules and/or criticize what moderators do and try to incite others in this plight are ones who bring little value to this community. Additionally, and you most should be aware, there are plenty of social media websites available to sign petitions and to express your feelings, XDA is not one of them.
And, to refer to the about linked post by zelendel, no one made you come here. You agreed to be respectful in your posts, to be critical of moderators, who are also members, is also not allowed.
For those of you in here who have posted, good to meet you. I expect you all will try to exercise respect, humanity and dignity from here on out - wherever and whenever you post.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Rant..

So like...I have been a long time lurker on xda...but never post due to finding my answers by searching...and I bought the premium app and every day it seems I have to post 10 new posts just to be able to comment in a specific forum...pretty dumb...my time is more precious than $1.50 - considering getting a refund
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

Anyone share in my not so thrilled perspective? These better count toward my ten posts...
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

hakesak said:
Anyone share in my not so thrilled perspective? These better count toward my ten posts...
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These may count towards your 10 posts, but not if the mods decide that you are simply spamming to get your 10 posts - then they may delete these instead.
I don't agree with your perspective at all. I use TapaTalk to access XDA when I'm mobile, but I bought the XDA app to contribute to the upkeep of this great forum and to say 'Thanks' for all the help I've received from here, both before and since signing up as a member.
As for the refund - I think you'll find that you only have something like 15 minutes to apply for a refund through the Play Store.

Awesome...so you do agree, whether you are aware or not. I also purchased this app to be more efficient while mobile and to support this forum for all the help I have received.
My opinion is this though, I have been on this site long enough and with lack of stupid questions that can be found with a simple search...not to mention I've donated...therefore I think I've earned the privilege of being able to ask a question on a dev topic.
Thank you for helping to contribute to my posts. Without you, this may not have been possible.
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

Oh and as far as the refund goes, obviously I am not that worried about a buck fifty. This topic is titled 'Rant..' for a reason.
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

By the way, what is your opinion of tapatalk? I used to have it a couple years ago, but didn't use it much back then...I may be incorrect but can't you access more forums than just xda on it?
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

hakesak said:
Awesome...so you do agree, whether you are aware or not. I also purchased this app to be more efficient while mobile and to support this forum for all the help I have received.
My opinion is this though, I have been on this site long enough and with lack of stupid questions that can be found with a simple search...not to mention I've donated...therefore I think I've earned the privilege of being able to ask a question on a dev topic.
Thank you for helping to contribute to my posts. Without you, this may not have been possible.
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You haven't "earned the right" to post anything in a Dev thread. If you have a question then you should ask it in your device's Q&A forum - that's what they exist for. Your 'opinion' carries absolutely zero weight towards anything on here.
If you really want to make your 10 posts then go and help out some other users - show off your knowledge rather than your attitude.
And considering that this post was a question you asked in a Development thread you obviously have no understanding of what development threads are for.

Lmao. Man, you are one easily worked up individual. Chill before your blood vessels burst.
This thread is under the general discussion topic which is under general discussion...and I believe we are generally discussing.
Now, why have you chosen to be a **** instead of telling me your opinion of tapatalk?
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

I just looked at that post you linked to... it was meant for the developers of that particular rom and it was a question that would vary based on how the rom was designed. How is that seen as an incorrect place?
SGN2. Jedi X14. XDA Premium. Jelly?

If you had simply registered and then made a few posts helping people in your devices Q&A, maybe reading a few guides along the way, this wouldn't have been an issue. This topic has been brought up repeatedly and the answer is the same. Rant denied.
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