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More Understanding of newcomers.

More and more i see in the forums newcomers asking for legitimate advice and guidance, and some even preface there lack of english, and yet i see other relative newcomers flame them, and sometimes even members/senior members also join the band wagon.
Some moderators have no qualms in flaming also... you know who you are.
Sure, there are those newcomers that have nothing better to do than start a thread for the enjoyment of pissing people off...I am confident the Mods will nuke them quickly.
I joined the site for the camaraderie and knowledge that is brought to the table.
Friendly banter is healthy , but abusive and racist comments should stop.
My 2 cents worth here, Don't respond to flamers as they want to bask in their glory and if we bite back we are no better than them.
I want my forums back to how they used to be. friendly, helpful, humourous.
The only way to get the respect we deserve is to lead by example.
Gets off my soapbox.
Waits to be flamed for this post...lol

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Your post should be stickied and copied to all the forums.
Thanks for your two cents.
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I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are right. New phone, new rooting method, threads that aren't 100 pages long, plus we are all to some degree noobs here has made an exemplary forum.
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I can't stand it when people jump all over noobs. All the time I see people getting their heads bitten off & actually being called names by senior members just for asking simple questions. It's positively shameful & it needs to stop. If they're asking stupid questions or being rude, yeah I can understand some backlash for that but sometimes it seems like the senior members just wanna chase off new people. XDA is supposed to be a community of smart people with an interest in phone modding but sometimes we act like an 8th grade class.
We were all noobs once & we need to remember that before we scream at someone for asking a question that- *GASP*- may have been answered before. A gentle reminder to search will suffice, no need to rip them a new one. And we also need to consider that not everyone knows exactly what terms to search for & that search is down for maintenance half the time to begin with.

moh0 said:
I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.
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The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.

Well said OP! Most of the XDA gang usually helps one another...

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Super Chimp said:
The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.
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XDA is more a community than a school. In order to be a functioning part of a community, you must go through the motions of becoming a valuable member. I'm not condoning the bashing of noobs. But if new users constantly ask silly questions, something has to be said about it.

[Rant] Where is the moderator??

So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Mod Edit: I see that this is only your second post in XDA and it is already a rant.
I suggest you first learn how to report posts and then rant regarding moderators...

ns4smi said:
So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!

Jep56 said:
Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!
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Totally agree with above, seems like a lot of tempers flared and people jumped ship. This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.

@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.

Digital_Biped said:
This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.
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Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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jscott30 said:
Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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I wish I could support more than I am now. Code doesn't scare me but I am at NO level to help with development (the devs almost seem like magicians at times) but in terms of theme-ing or anything visual that would need to be created I would be happy to help (buttons, icons, backgrounds, etc) because that is in my field.

diablo009 said:
@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.
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+1
It seems when we get new devs, ppl flood the threads with a "gimme" attitude and when they don't get their way they ***** and moan. I've been following here since the phone came out and it's amazing how hard ppl bite the hand that feeds them...
There are more noobs here than we know what to do with and they are constantly snapping at the devs, constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP) No wonder all of our useful members are upgrading and leaving. I'm hoping the moderators can step in if this gets any worse.

Report bad posts. They can't fix what they can't see, and it's not feasible to be babysitting 100 threads. broncogr will clean up the baddies, but the community needs to police itself. Don't respond to bad posts, just report them and move on.

I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him long to close it once he got my pm.
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tmease1 said:
I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him either once he got my pm.
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Easier way would be to report the post you want to take down. That would get quicker attention than an IM.
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xIC-MACIx said:
constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP).
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Mention about searching to them, and here are the common retorts we get back:
1. Too many pages on ROMs to browse through
2. Its easier to ask and get answer than browse through
3. Why don't you just answer me than increase post count by telling me to search
What they fail to realize is that Q&A thread of a ROM is created specifically to address the ROM's issues, and searching there is the first thing to be done.
Maybe we should get a warning tab that shows warning levels given to any user. After certain number of warning, its the ban hammer on them for a short while that would restrict them from posting anything.

Instead of ranting and taking matters into your own hands why dont you just report the offending posts and they will be taken care of.
Unless you believe that mods are going to read any and all threads and any and all posts on a daily basis.
I try to keep the forum clean, move posts to the correct subforum and answer quickly to any reported posts and pm's.
But if you dont report it I will not be able to see it....
Cheers

Shut up - moderator note - how not to make a post

Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!

This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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sptrsn said:
This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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Thanks, I am just getting frustrated, that you start reading some threads, and most of them are getting hijacked with the same ole stuff, put it in one area, and delete it from the rest.
As far as banning me, so be it, by the time I return the forum might just be cleaned. I am NOT the only person that has already thought of this. If it would make everyone happy, I reported myself for this thread to be deleted.

TheAxman said:
Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
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this is the internet, what are you sincerely expecting?

Thread closed...If anyone wants opinions, go log on to social media for them. This here is a development site, contribute to that or log off - do not clutter threads with this stuff.
To clarify a couple other points, the general section of any thread is NOT for opinions like this, so it is not okay. Nor is creating this type of flotsam and jetsum and then self-reporting it while being self righteous in the process. When you accepted membership here, you agreed to post by the rules, and this thread is a great example of what not to do.
Oh yeah, always help a new user, and if you are confronted with disrespectful users, report the posts, and do not feed trolls or trollers.... Moderators are standing by to assist.

why in ace plus forum everyone is hungry of likes ???

I don't understand that why people are hungry for likes in ace plus forum I have use HTC one v and looked in all the threads but I didn't find anyone begging for thanks
I am new to forum as I created account 2-3 weeks ago but still i guess we should help each other without the need of thanks!
am i right guys?

killer19 said:
I don't understand that why people are hungry for likes in ace plus forum I have use HTC one v and looked in all the threads but I didn't find anyone begging for thanks
I am new to forum as I created account 2-3 weeks ago but still i guess we should help each other without the need of thanks!
am i right guys?
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Yes there are some who want to have Thanks meter like devs.
Those are actually thanksicks
ALSO FORGOT Welcome to our forum .You'll meet spammers ,thanksicks,requesters,beggers here .
But placing threads on appropriate sub-forum is better as this may be considered a General Sub- Forum not Q&A Sub-Forum.
Just to remind you :
Never ask a dev for something
Never ask ETA (estimated time pf arrival)
Never spam forums/threads
Write clearly instead of u-you ,2-to
And post threads to appropriate sub-Forums .
Best regards for you .
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blinqipa said:
Yes there are some who want to have Thanks meter like devs.
Those are actually thanksicks
ALSO FORGOT Welcome to our forum .You'll meet spammers ,thanksicks,requesters,beggers here .
But placing threads on appropriate sub-forum is better as this may be considered a General Sub- Forum not Q&A Sub-Forum.
Just to remind you :
Never ask a dev for something
Never ask ETA (estimated time pf arrival)
Never spam forums/threads
Write clearly instead of u-you ,2-to
And post threads to appropriate sub-Forums .
Best regards for you .
Sent from my GT-S7500 using xda premium
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haha
true that !!

Unfortunately OP, you have hit the nail right on the head.
There's 9000 levels of wrong all across the fora, and its not just this one I'm talking about. Thanks whoring, begging for donations, colorful developement threads which look more like a 5 year olds crayon book, screenshot layouts which focus on everything except the screenshot, huge signatures which are bigger than the posts that the bearing members do, members reserving posts for reasons which sane people have never understood; oh I could go on and on and on...
At the end of the day, they fail to realize all of ^this^ is rather pointless. We are, after all, part of an educated society. The forum is considered as one of the more technically oriented forums on the Internet. Yet you see people joining here for all the wrong reasons, acting in all the wrong ways.
One can not ban everyone, so instead we rely on common sense to prevail and use it as a measuring tool. We end up hoping that people see the pointlesness of all such activities. That they realize, what we do is because we love to do it, and not because we want virtual thanks, popularity or someone else's money.
If they don't like what they are doing, they shouldn't be doing it at all.
/rant
A.cid
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a.cid said:
Unfortunately OP, you have hit the nail right on the head.
There's 9000 levels of wrong all across the fora, and its not just this one I'm talking about. Thanks whoring, begging for donations, colorful developement threads which look more like a 5 year olds crayon book, screenshot layouts which focus on everything except the screenshot, huge signatures which are bigger than the posts that the bearing members do, members reserving posts for reasons which sane people have never understood; oh I could go on and on and on...
At the end of the day, they fail to realize all of ^this^ is rather pointless. We are, after all, part of an educated society. The forum is considered as one of the more technically oriented forums on the Internet. Yet you see people joining here for all the wrong reasons, acting in all the wrong ways.
One can not ban everyone, so instead we rely on common sense to prevail and use it as a measuring tool. We end up hoping that people see the pointlesness of all such activities. That they realize, what we do is because we love to do it, and not because we want virtual thanks, popularity or someone else's money.
If they don't like what they are doing, they shouldn't be doing it at all.
/rant
A.cid
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^^^someone with right words...
Good
I also think that
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a.cid said:
Unfortunately OP, you have hit the nail right on the head.
There's 9000 levels of wrong all across the fora, and its not just this one I'm talking about. Thanks whoring, begging for donations, colorful developement threads which look more like a 5 year olds crayon book, screenshot layouts which focus on everything except the screenshot, huge signatures which are bigger than the posts that the bearing members do, members reserving posts for reasons which sane people have never understood; oh I could go on and on and on...
At the end of the day, they fail to realize all of ^this^ is rather pointless. We are, after all, part of an educated society. The forum is considered as one of the more technically oriented forums on the Internet. Yet you see people joining here for all the wrong reasons, acting in all the wrong ways.
One can not ban everyone, so instead we rely on common sense to prevail and use it as a measuring tool. We end up hoping that people see the pointlesness of all such activities. That they realize, what we do is because we love to do it, and not because we want virtual thanks, popularity or someone else's money.
If they don't like what they are doing, they shouldn't be doing it at all.
/rant
A.cid
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that is a hell of a explanation sir :good:
what we do is because we love to do it :angel:

4 years on xda.

I have been around these forums and have enjoyed the friendly community and the help taken and given. I have been through multiple android phones and this site has helped me to make each of them better.
Lately there has been a lot of interference from moderators. Shutting down active threads for really no apparent reason.. People discussing what ever it is it be and a mod comes in and closes the thread because they JUDGED for themself that they don't like it. Or they try and conclude everything to there liking. I have been visiting xda less and less because of this. I feel like your taking all of the fun out of a great community and being hard asses for whatever reason. Seems like a bunch of out of control cops abusing there powers just because they can.
Right now I'm laughing because some moderator is reading this and is probably going to explode with anger and remove/delete this thread.
:beer: relax.
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The sections I have frequented, I have no issue with the moderators of those sections. I guess to each their own.
I have been a moderator on another forum for over a year and know by personal experience sometimes you have to piss off a few to keep things in order and have the rules enforced. Each infraction has to be treated to similar consequences for equality, but sometimes that is hard to follow when you have a huge forum like XDA where you need a handful of people for a lot of different sections. Keeping the moderators in line as an admin can be a daunting task. If you feel a moderator is abusing his power, best to ask over PM why he did what he did. If he doesn't have reason for his actions, contact an admin of his actions.
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qs504792 said:
I have been around these forums and have enjoyed the friendly community and the help taken and given. I have been through multiple android phones and this site has helped me to make each of them better.
Lately there has been a lot of interference from moderators. Shutting down active threads for really no apparent reason.. People discussing what ever it is it be and a mod comes in and closes the thread because they JUDGED for themself that they don't like it. Or they try and conclude everything to there liking. I have been visiting xda less and less because of this. I feel like your taking all of the fun out of a great community and being hard asses for whatever reason. Seems like a bunch of out of control cops abusing there powers just because they can.
Right now I'm laughing because some moderator is reading this and is probably going to explode with anger and remove/delete this thread.
:beer: relax.
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I am sorry that you feel like the moderators are being heavy handed. If you have an issue with the way something is being handled you can PM the moderator in question and if you are still not happy you can send a PM to the Moderator Committee. I guarantee you that it will be looked into. Please do not post PMs from people into the open forums, PMs are meant to be private, posting it in public kind of defeats the purpose of them :laugh:.
I promise you that the moderators want the same friendly community atmosphere that you do. Part of that requires some proactive steps to keep things that we know will eventually cause problems from causing those problems. I am sure you will agree that a thread about how the iPhone is better than the Note 3 will quickly degrade into a giant hate fest.
I am going to close this thread, because, I think it will only attract trouble. Please, take advantage of whomever it is you have contacted and feel free to PM me with any issues you have.