I have been around these forums and have enjoyed the friendly community and the help taken and given. I have been through multiple android phones and this site has helped me to make each of them better.
Lately there has been a lot of interference from moderators. Shutting down active threads for really no apparent reason.. People discussing what ever it is it be and a mod comes in and closes the thread because they JUDGED for themself that they don't like it. Or they try and conclude everything to there liking. I have been visiting xda less and less because of this. I feel like your taking all of the fun out of a great community and being hard asses for whatever reason. Seems like a bunch of out of control cops abusing there powers just because they can.
Right now I'm laughing because some moderator is reading this and is probably going to explode with anger and remove/delete this thread.
:beer: relax.
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The sections I have frequented, I have no issue with the moderators of those sections. I guess to each their own.
I have been a moderator on another forum for over a year and know by personal experience sometimes you have to piss off a few to keep things in order and have the rules enforced. Each infraction has to be treated to similar consequences for equality, but sometimes that is hard to follow when you have a huge forum like XDA where you need a handful of people for a lot of different sections. Keeping the moderators in line as an admin can be a daunting task. If you feel a moderator is abusing his power, best to ask over PM why he did what he did. If he doesn't have reason for his actions, contact an admin of his actions.
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qs504792 said:
I have been around these forums and have enjoyed the friendly community and the help taken and given. I have been through multiple android phones and this site has helped me to make each of them better.
Lately there has been a lot of interference from moderators. Shutting down active threads for really no apparent reason.. People discussing what ever it is it be and a mod comes in and closes the thread because they JUDGED for themself that they don't like it. Or they try and conclude everything to there liking. I have been visiting xda less and less because of this. I feel like your taking all of the fun out of a great community and being hard asses for whatever reason. Seems like a bunch of out of control cops abusing there powers just because they can.
Right now I'm laughing because some moderator is reading this and is probably going to explode with anger and remove/delete this thread.
:beer: relax.
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I am sorry that you feel like the moderators are being heavy handed. If you have an issue with the way something is being handled you can PM the moderator in question and if you are still not happy you can send a PM to the Moderator Committee. I guarantee you that it will be looked into. Please do not post PMs from people into the open forums, PMs are meant to be private, posting it in public kind of defeats the purpose of them :laugh:.
I promise you that the moderators want the same friendly community atmosphere that you do. Part of that requires some proactive steps to keep things that we know will eventually cause problems from causing those problems. I am sure you will agree that a thread about how the iPhone is better than the Note 3 will quickly degrade into a giant hate fest.
I am going to close this thread, because, I think it will only attract trouble. Please, take advantage of whomever it is you have contacted and feel free to PM me with any issues you have.
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hi guys - as my inspire comrades, i'd love to offer you guys spotify invites. it's through this cool service i found called klout that measures your influence via social networks. they give you cool perks (ie spotify invites). anyways, here's the link: http://klout.com/perk/Spotify/Spoti...eeb5e4309f4a1e38f2a120afc3953fb10d7a27e7bf964
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Let me start this off by saying that I respect and love our mods for all their great work.
However, I have seen more and more in the past month or month.5 that many of the threads in this subforum have been closed. Some because they're no longer relevant for whatever purpose (which is a good thing), but other select threads are closed because they are off topic. The question I pose is why do some off-topic threads have to be closed?
Granted, this is a forum for developers and for phone support, applications, questions, etc, it is also a community. and because it's a community within a community (inspire users), I'd like to be able to have few off-topic conversations without them being closed by the mods. This is also the general subforum and therefore, I think it's appropriate if I want to start a slightly off-topic conversation with my fellow inspire users.
I understand the fact that sometimes off-topic threads can cause clutter, but I think thats most relevant in the case of multiple threads of the same topic.
disclaimer: conan, this post was not really inspired by you asking the other user to use the off-topic forum in the other spotify invite thread, but is a result of various threads i've seen closed recently. also, as i mentioned earlier, i would like to share the spotify invites with my fellow inspire users, not other random people that happen to also be browsing the off-topic forum.
lastly, i'd like to thank all of you amazing people for making my experience with the inspire so freaking awesome. this goes from the devs to the other people like me that respect and love the devs' work to the noobs without who we would be so peaceful and happy without having to tell them to search
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I appreciate what your saying about the fact that you'd rather offer these to another inspire user, not just the first random OT user to jump on your thread.
That said, there is an undeniable problem at the moment with clutter on the forums.
While your post is entirely genereous and well intentioned it is not strictly "on topic". I know this may seem petty but if we (the moderation team) are to bring the forums back into line the way they used to be, we need to be consistent in our actions.
You may not have asked for my opinion but I'll offer it anyway..
I would have just picked out a couple of members you'd like to donate these invites to and PM'd them, your two fav devs or someones who's helped you with a problem for example. Perhaps even your friendly forum moderator (just kidding).
I'm not gonna close your thread right now because like I said, I appreciate the intention behind it but let me know when they are claimed so I can close it and prevent it turning into a "Where can I get an invite??" thread...
Cheers.
I know this seems contrary to XDA's recent apparent policy of consolidating the number of forums rather than expanding, but maybe a community/off-topic board for various high-traffic devices would be in order.
I also have Spotify, but no invites, and would highly recommend you take this generous guy up on his offer.
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I appreciate what your saying about the fact that you'd rather offer these to another inspire user, not just the first random OT user to jump on your thread.
That said, there is an undeniable problem at the moment with clutter on the forums.
While your post is entirely genereous and well intentioned it is not strictly "on topic". I know this may seem petty but if we (the moderation team) are to bring the forums back into line the way they used to be, we need to be consistent in our actions.
You may not have asked for my opinion but I'll offer it anyway..
I would have just picked out a couple of members you'd like to donate these invites to and PM'd them, your two fav devs or someones who's helped you with a problem for example. Perhaps even your friendly forum moderator (just kidding).
I'm not gonna close your thread right now because like I said, I appreciate the intention behind it but let me know when they are claimed so I can close it and prevent it turning into a "Where can I get an invite??" thread...
Cheers.
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whenever i rant, i like to hear opinions from everyone that i'm ranting about. so thanks for your opinion what do you think about having an inspire off-topic subforum? i feel that since the Q&A section popped up, the general section has been MUCH cleaner, so props for that! maybe this well help too, maybe not. oh well.
and also thanks for the advice about PM'ing people - i'll try that next time.
FYI - there's 1 invite left via the link in the OP
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whenever i rant, i like to hear opinions from everyone that i'm ranting about. so thanks for your opinion what do you think about having an inspire off-topic subforum? i feel that since the Q&A section popped up, the general section has been MUCH cleaner, so props for that! maybe this well help too, maybe not. oh well.
and also thanks for the advice about PM'ing people - i'll try that next time.
FYI - there's 1 invite left via the link in the OP
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Thanks, I was able to grab that final invite
cool glad i could help you guys out.
all set conan, thanks!!
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I know this seems contrary to XDA's recent apparent policy of consolidating the number of forums rather than expanding, but maybe a community/off-topic board for various high-traffic devices would be in order.
I also have Spotify, but no invites, and would highly recommend you take this generous guy up on his offer.
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Your the second person to bring this up. Are you guys conspiring against me
Initially I refused, as I've tried it elsewhere and it was a spectacular failure.
I will however, consult the oracle and see what he/she/it says....
@the op, gonna close this now if we are all done. Thanks for the rant
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More and more i see in the forums newcomers asking for legitimate advice and guidance, and some even preface there lack of english, and yet i see other relative newcomers flame them, and sometimes even members/senior members also join the band wagon.
Some moderators have no qualms in flaming also... you know who you are.
Sure, there are those newcomers that have nothing better to do than start a thread for the enjoyment of pissing people off...I am confident the Mods will nuke them quickly.
I joined the site for the camaraderie and knowledge that is brought to the table.
Friendly banter is healthy , but abusive and racist comments should stop.
My 2 cents worth here, Don't respond to flamers as they want to bask in their glory and if we bite back we are no better than them.
I want my forums back to how they used to be. friendly, helpful, humourous.
The only way to get the respect we deserve is to lead by example.
Gets off my soapbox.
Waits to be flamed for this post...lol
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Your post should be stickied and copied to all the forums.
Thanks for your two cents.
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I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right. New phone, new rooting method, threads that aren't 100 pages long, plus we are all to some degree noobs here has made an exemplary forum.
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I can't stand it when people jump all over noobs. All the time I see people getting their heads bitten off & actually being called names by senior members just for asking simple questions. It's positively shameful & it needs to stop. If they're asking stupid questions or being rude, yeah I can understand some backlash for that but sometimes it seems like the senior members just wanna chase off new people. XDA is supposed to be a community of smart people with an interest in phone modding but sometimes we act like an 8th grade class.
We were all noobs once & we need to remember that before we scream at someone for asking a question that- *GASP*- may have been answered before. A gentle reminder to search will suffice, no need to rip them a new one. And we also need to consider that not everyone knows exactly what terms to search for & that search is down for maintenance half the time to begin with.
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I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.
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The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.
Well said OP! Most of the XDA gang usually helps one another...
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The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.
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XDA is more a community than a school. In order to be a functioning part of a community, you must go through the motions of becoming a valuable member. I'm not condoning the bashing of noobs. But if new users constantly ask silly questions, something has to be said about it.
Why is it that the so called MODS in this place would rather lock a thread than to accept the fact they are ****ed in the head! I don't know what the deal is with the MODS here but they need to get their heads out their ass and address the real issues instead of holding a grudge! You are loosing some great people because of your arrogant stupid ass I am god attitude. So I hope to see xda flop on its sorry ass!!!!!!! PEACE OUT!
Agreed.
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Well although I think you could've said that in a more tasteful manner (as to not stoop down to their level) I still agree.
Tator's thread regarding dfgas' recognized developer status (or lack thereof) was a pretty calm thread and, aside from a few comments made by other users (which were minor at worst) it was not in violation of any XDA forum rules. It was more importantly though our little Mesmerize (and Showcase) community coming together collectively to show our support for one of our developers. The overwhelming majority agreed that he did deserve recognized developer status. Closing that thread, in my opinion, was about as close as you can get to downright censorship in an attempt to control our opinions here. We have the right to speak our minds and voice our opinions, as long as its within forum rules. If a few members bend or break a rule, then by all means, a moderator can edit his post, but the entire thread should not be closed, especially when we are voicing our support for one of our developers.
Considering...
"[XDA] is and always will be a site for developers, pure and simple. Without them we are nothing, without them there would be no reason for XDA Developers to exist; we should never ever forget that. Without them this place would not be called XDA-Developers but something else, e.g Mobile Phone User Support Services For Ungrateful Nerds. XDA is about developing and is for developers. Any user that recognizes that will gain the most benefit from this site."
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I am still very shocked that a thread was closed when its sole purpose was to show our support for one of our developers and to let him know that we were behind him even after he had been denied recognition that he has absolutely earned.
I also believe part of the frustration and anger a lot of us share is regarding the manner in which the thread was locked. jerdog and I do not see eye to eye, he knows that and I know that, and that is what it is, however I will say in the most respectful way that I think telling, basically our sub-forum as a whole, that this manner was not 'our place' to comment on was disrespectful to all of us and a slap in all our faces. Because it is absolutely our place. A developer with no users and no community behind him/her is no more useful than a lone hammer just sitting idle without someone around to manipulate it. A developer needs his users just as much as the users need their developer. Without users, a developer's work is pointless. So to tell us it is not 'our place' to voice our opinion when we believe our developer has been wronged, completely undermines the developer-user relationship and is a extemely poor attitude to display. Especially to refer to our support of dfgas as "whining and complaining" I thought was completely uncalled for.
holy crap, you made an intelligent post :O
haha I completely agree with you on all counts. these guys need to get their act together, the more they act like they did in that thread the less I want to come to this site for anything.
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The reason for the thread's closing boils down to these few points:
The only person who can petition for someone to be recognized as a developer, is THAT DEVELOPER THEMSELVES. That was stated a few times in that thread as well as the PM sent to the applicant when they aren't selected.
Any attempt to drum up support is counter-productive as it's not your place, and only comes across as whining which is reserved for ages 0-2.
That being said, any further attempts to drum up a mob will fall under the rules of XDA and you will be, at the least, infracted - and most likely given a vacation from the site so as to pursue other hobbies. It's the rules - if you don't like them - there are other places you can frequent - you're not being paid to stay here, nor are we (Mods and Admins) paid to put up with it.
This thread is closed. If you have any issues with that, feel free to PM me or any SM.
before i start this thread please understand i have been "stalking" this site and the forums gaining much knowledge of the devices i use and have owned... in NO way am i trying to bad talk any general mod or admin in anyway and dont mean for this to be insulting to anyone...
my question(s) is:
Why do most if not ALL moderators feel the need to threaten people in EVERY forum... now i can understand if there is a person swearing at someone... but honestly most of you flaunt your BAN powers a little to much... as if we cant see your "moderator" title and know when to shut up and grow up till you leave jk lol
now with that said i understand some of you have a life outside xda... and may get a little "pissy" then log on to XDA and see 50 PM's about a person or forum being out of control... you then go in there with a chip on your shoulder and not only get MORE pissed off... but make someone pissed off or upset by your NerdRage banhammer powers of steel
i think you need to understand that we are people too... just as you are... we are no perfect and do not mean to make mistakes... but with that SO DO YOU... so please if any moderators read this next time you "clean" a thread and decide to leave a cocky comment regarding your powers of vacation giving... try politely telling the general public to do what you ask...
(PLEASE INSERT USER FOR PEOPLE... IF YOUR A IGNORANT PERSON THAT THINKS EVERYONE IS FACELESS OVER THE INTERNET)
i really enjoyed xda a year or so ago... when it wasnt so violent and people where nice... but i think XDA moderators should set an example of those who are rude... and be the bigger person rather than blatantly abuse there privilege's
let this thread die... or comment i dont care... hell even ban me or send me on a vacation... some one needed to say this in my opinion... and obviously many people on here CANT have that very thing without someone *****ing at them.. or stepping on someones toes
hope XDA can start this new year off better than the last one ended
thanks
The short version: It's their JOB
The longer version. They are responsible for helping to keep XDA a innovative thriving board that has a wide range of users from a wide variety of different backgrounds and experiance. They not only have to deal with keeping the regular userbase happy but they have to ensure xda remains a productive and successful family friendly (for the most part) website, and in doing this they deal with alot of stupidity, trolls, spambots, incorrectly placed posts, whingers, drunkards, spammers, scammers, noobs, rickrolls, memes, tired old jokes, and self entitled douches (to name a few).
Some people may behave when they know a mod is watching whist others may continue being dumbasses or annoying or breaching the rules and may require a more firm approach. (Although in my oppinion a warning is not a firm approach, a flat out ban or suspension without a warning is). XDA is a informitive treasure-trove of awesomeness that covers a wide veriety of tablets, phones, programs and platforms, and whats more? ITS FREE! Sure feel free to whinge about being warned for a percived infraction but really you should be taking it up with the mod who did it or other mods cause this type of thread will get you no where. Believe it or not the tolerence level here is pretty high, as long as you post in the correct areas and make a minimal attempt to remain on topic, they are not too hard and if you are feeling like being stupid, they even provide a forum for people to be stupid in (check out the off topic section, I do regularly. Its funny..... sometimes.)
SO in the end you can either be in here whinging or out there making productive use of yours and your phones time, otherwise there is that little X in the top corner of your screen.
And remember:
I tell you. Most moderators take this site to seriously. It's like it's their baby, also some of them are very sad And have nothing better to do than ban people.
Really you just have to put up with people that don't have a life outside this forum.
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That ban threat that you are talking about is a generic copy and paste message. Why should they type out a personalized message to the hundreds of people breaking the rules everyday? And it really isn't a threat. If you continue to break the rules, you WILL be banned.
Quote who you are talking to
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hungry81 said:
The short version: It's their JOB
The longer version. They are responsible for helping to keep XDA a innovative thriving board that has a wide range of users from a wide variety of different backgrounds and experiance. They not only have to deal with keeping the regular userbase happy but they have to ensure xda remains a productive and successful family friendly (for the most part) website, and in doing this they deal with alot of stupidity, trolls, spambots, incorrectly placed posts, whingers, drunkards, spammers, scammers, noobs, rickrolls, memes, tired old jokes, and self entitled douches (to name a few).
Some people may behave when they know a mod is watching whist others may continue being dumbasses or annoying or breaching the rules and may require a more firm approach. (Although in my oppinion a warning is not a firm approach, a flat out ban or suspension without a warning is). XDA is a informitive treasure-trove of awesomeness that covers a wide veriety of tablets, phones, programs and platforms, and whats more? ITS FREE! Sure feel free to whinge about being warned for a percived infraction but really you should be taking it up with the mod who did it or other mods cause this type of thread will get you no where. Believe it or not the tolerence level here is pretty high, as long as you post in the correct areas and make a minimal attempt to remain on topic, they are not too hard and if you are feeling like being stupid, they even provide a forum for people to be stupid in (check out the off topic section, I do regularly. Its funny..... sometimes.)
SO in the end you can either be in here whinging or out there making productive use of yours and your phones time, otherwise there is that little X in the top corner of your screen.
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i have YET to get WARNED or ANYTHING from a moderator... this is a general question from all the **** i seen on man forums where the moderator feels the need to taunt and belittle people... this is a FREE site... but in no way should people feel like **** because a moderator is being a asshole...
and people like you (ignorant ****s) are the reason why people get defensive and trash talk each other and argue....
maybe after this post i will be yelled at for swearing but again this isnt about ME getting yelled at and complaining.... this is ME standing up for the people who dont get a warning for anything but get banned... and it has happened and for you to say" you shouldnt get a warning it should be a ban or vacation" just shows how arrogant you are... bet if i track through ALL of your recent posts/threads you havent helped one person without being a **** about it first...
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i have YET to get WARNED or ANYTHING from a moderator... this is a general question from all the **** i seen on man forums where the moderator feels the need to taunt and belittle people... this is a FREE site... but in no way should people feel like **** because a moderator is being a asshole...
and people like you (ignorant ****s) are the reason why people get defensive and trash talk each other and argue....
maybe after this post i will be yelled at for swearing but again this isnt about ME getting yelled at and complaining.... this is ME standing up for the people who dont get a warning for anything but get banned... and it has happened and for you to say" you shouldnt get a warning it should be a ban or vacation" just shows how arrogant you are... bet if i track through ALL of your recent posts/threads you havent helped one person without being a **** about it first...
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Lol its a crusader on the internets fighting for the rights of the downtrodden and abused on all forums everywhere, One day we will break free of this dictatorship and take the forums for the common man.
OR
WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA No one tells me what to do ill tell my mummy and she will get you in trouble. My mummy says I can do what I want and you can't do any thing .
Actually your post and general whining reminds me of this:
close to the end of 2015 and alot of mods are still huge jerks who think they have power over any and everyone.
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close to the end of 2015 and alot of mods are still huge jerks who think they have power over any and everyone.
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I can tell you first hand the Moderates on this site are some of the best people I've ever encountered anywhere. And they have a site with near 7 million members to watch over. Then along come people who got "in trouble" for breaking the rules that they agreed to when they registered, calling moderators power tripping jerks. :silly:
Well, I will need to disagree. The tolerance most show amazes me at times. If you only knew the messages we often receive. Again, an incredible group of people here selflessly donating their time, for free, to help keep this site great.
All that said, me, myself, I lean to the jerk side.
Thread closed. 3 years late, but well deserved. :good:
Darth
Power tripping jerk Forum Moderator
I posted 2 threads today from my phone the xda app keep crashing. I posted pics in separate post the app was giving me an error. Then 3 members decided to start trolling about i'm bumping constantly. I feel if you had common sense you could se the times of the first post were close together. The thread would have been near the top anyway. I told them the issues i was having with the app. They all seemed to think I was lying or stupid. I have alot going on my wife is sick they dont know what it is. The rare conditions our never a good thing only selling the items both new a love. The specialist she has to see is out of network and out of town. Instead of any of these senior members pm with there concerns they all wanted to argue on the thread thus keeping it it up on the top longer anyway. I'm not out here trying to cheat or break rules here. Xda is suppose to be a community. I just wonder why these members could not have just taken me at my word.
First of all, sorry to hear about your wife. I truly hope things improve
Now onto the matter at hand.
Unfortunately, as you said, a lot of users around the forums do like to troll people who have genuine problems and questions. They do it in an attempt to seem like they have some meaning in their lives.
The best way to deal with them is simply not to reply to them at all, otherwise situations can very easily get out of hand.
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[Q] Why do all members don´t read&search before posting?
Next time you´ll get an infraction.
There is already a thread for XDA app
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I posted 2 threads today from my phone the xda app keep crashing. I posted pics in separate post the app was giving me an error. Then 3 members decided to start trolling about i'm bumping constantly. I feel if you had common sense you could se the times of the first post were close together. The thread would have been near the top anyway. I told them the issues i was having with the app. They all seemed to think I was lying or stupid. I have alot going on my wife is sick they dont know what it is. The rare conditions our never a good thing only selling the items both new a love. The specialist she has to see is out of network and out of town. Instead of any of these senior members pm with there concerns they all wanted to argue on the thread thus keeping it it up on the top longer anyway. I'm not out here trying to cheat or break rules here. Xda is suppose to be a community. I just wonder why these members could not have just taken me at my word.
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