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i do like the phone and partially like win7 mobile but i was wanting to run android ive tried the info but i cannot get anything to work.
htc 7 pro mobile running wm7
also reading some articles im scared to update what is best and safe for this phone i have stock firmware never updated as of new.
thanks
You cannot run Android on Windows Phone. End of story.
well how are others running android , its not impossible from what ive read. your a bit defeatist lmaO.
if wp7 can run Android, we would have run both on our device.
Actually due to wp7s locked down nature it could not, within reason, dual-boot. You could certainly port android to it given the time but you couldn't jump the android partition from wp7. I suppose it may be possible to flash android onto it (terrible is that it is) and create something to launch the wp7 partition from there but even then it's highly unlikely. There are a few devices supposedly dual-booting over in China but I would be more likely to bet that they're just generic hd7s and needed a free is to use. Regardless, its not happening any time soon and I don't know why you'd want that bug infested laggy garbage on your phone anyway.
they got the HD7 running Android.. and that's it.. pretty much because it is identical to the HD2.. which has been hacked to run android for a long time.
it might be possible for other HTC phones now that they're able to do custom roms.. but there are no guarantees.
If you wanted an android device, why didn't you just buy an android?
they have better hardware available and more flexible software..
i am thinking to buy the Lumia 710 when its available in India, but before buying i want to ask some questions. I am a WP n00b and have only used once and that too for few minutes since WP are not that famous in India and i really liked it a lot.
Now my first question is-
1) What are the customization that we can do in WP like changing themes, changing the way the phone looks bla bla bla
2) is there any Custom ROMS available like in Android
3) Can we send files via bluetooth by hacking
4) How far will my Lumia 710 be upgraded, i mean until which version of windows i can expect the device to be upgraded
5) is the GPU powerful enough to run future games when more phones will be released with more powerful GPU
Hope someone will answer these questions and please forgive me if i am asking som ultra-n00b ques
1) Apart from changing the colour of the tiles, there isn't really any other way that you can customize WP7. There is a way on unlocked phones to theme the tiles which has recently been released here but it is pretty useless until live tiles work.
2) There are custom roms for HTC devices but none as so far for the Nokia devices.
3) Not as far as I know.
4) It is pretty much guaranteed that you will receive all of the upcoming WP7 updates, I'm not too sure about how Microsoft is going to support older devices when WP8 is released.
5) As there is a guideline which manufacturers have to follow when producing WP7s, pretty much all of the phones are similar power-wise. We'll have to wait for the Apollo update, which is rumoured to bring dual-core support to windows phone and see what games are released then.
there are a lot of limitations so should i buy the Nokia Lumia 710 or the Xperia Play, please dont suggest me ANY other android phones
anyone please?
After using WP7 for more than 6 months and using Android earlier I recommend you to for WP7 smooth stable and beautiful design good features and battery life go for Samsung Omnia W which is due to release next week in India it has secondary camera as well
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thanks but i doubt i will ever buy a mobile phone other than Nokia/Sony/Apple
souvikroy1111 said:
thanks but i doubt i will ever buy a mobile phone other than Nokia/Sony/Apple
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maybe you're looking on technical support you've come to accustomed with...
anyway, i've used all kind of phones, and now that i tried this lumia 710 for two days it already move my razr into a backup handphone... LoL
simple, effective, beautifully done... couldn't asked for more
the razr will be my backup phone as games and multimedia powerhouse
I personally didnt like the nokia lumia 710 that much because I got use to a big screen from the hd2, sensation but overall the phone works great & the screen rotation is the fastest I seen on a phone.
lumia 710 is very good. vote 5 star/ 5 star. I like it....
Massive necropost there, lbshock, in the most "truly useless" sense of the word.
However, to avoid people getting confused when they read this 6-month-old thread, custom ROMs are now totally possible on the Lumia 710.
Hello.
I've been reading alot in this topic, and i would like to know wether its possible or not for me .
I bought Nokia Lumia 800, and got the newest update. Im really new at W7 phones, since ive always used iPhone. Been JB'ing alot etc, but this is very different and i dont want to brick my lumia.
So my question is; is it possible to follow the guide, and install this rom on my Lumia 800, with the newest update?
Thanks!
- Kreutzer1.
You say "this ROM" but don't mention any ROM... kinda confused. You can install official ROMs on the Lumias, I assume, and you can certainly send update CABs. However, custom ROMs are not yet supported on the Lumia.
Your subject line asks about changing themes. Creatinga custom theme requires at least registry access, and for a full theme it requires filesystem access too. So far, nobody has managed to get either one on the Lumia phones.
On the other hand, they just came out. Give it a little time - they're among the most popular WP7 phones and I'm sure there will be hacks for them soon enough.
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Thanks for your reply.
I apologize, i was supposed to link this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271118&page=148
I have been a symbian fanboy and I found windows phone very interesting.
I decided to buy a windowsphone.
What I found after following windowsphone for sometime is that this os has some restrictions.
some of those restrictions like bt file sharing,usb mass storage mode etc can be lifted if you can unlock your phone completely.
I decided to buy 2nd gen phones like lumia 800 so that I can unlock them using chevron labs.but there seems to be no more new tokens.
but as of now there is no way to jailbreak 2nd gen phones.
So I decided to go for samsung focus.
what I fear now is will it be upgraded to windowsphone 8 or not?
will there be any method coming in the future to unlock 2nd gen phones?
I like to mod and install unsigned apps .
please suggest me friends what to do?
Well, there are no promises in hacking. It seems you have done your research so you kinda answered your own questions as much as anyone else could. Nobody knows what devices will get WP8 since MS hasnt stated anything one way or the other offcially. Basically if you want to mod to the fullest extent you need a first gen htc or samsung, to a lesser extent a second gen samsung should do fine. If you want to be sure to get WP8 wait untill MS says what will and what won't get it.
So far, all Windows phones have gotten all of the signifficant updates. We'll see how long this holds true, but the (admittedly short) history of the OS says that even though some devices may be a bit later than others, everybody gets the major updates. Microsoft seems to have committed to this pretty strongly. My guess is that they'll ship updates for all phones sold within a two-year period of the update coming out, since that's where people will be in contracts (I know some places do three-year contracts, but at the rate tech advances, three years is a long time).
The Focus was still on sale just a few months ago. I fully expect it to get updates through at least Windows Phone 8.5 (late 2013, by the current twice-annual-significant-update schedule). No guarantees, of course, but that's my guess.
Additionally, you should be able to send updates via CAB files even if the phone falls out of official support. The firmware will get out of date, which might make some features of the new OSes less valuable (for example, Mango added the managed Compass API, but a firmware update was needed to make it usable). Bugfixes and major features will probably keep on coming, though. If nothing else, the Samsung gen1 phones have unlockable bootloaders, so you can install custom ROMs. The fact that you can run WP7 build 8107 on the HD2 - a phone that wasn't supposed to run WP7 at all - suggests that the Focus will probably be viable for quite some time.
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
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It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
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thanks mate you have been so helpful to me.
btw how to stop updation process just after mango so that kk2 fw wont be installed on my phone?
will kk2 be shown as separate update or does it come with mango?
I think most the chefs turn the auto update off. I could be wrong, but my phone has not auto updated. I am using Nextgen ROM.
Updates are installed in order. After each one, the Zune software will check for more updates. You can cancel the update process at any time except when the phone is actually being flashed. There's a cancel button on the Zune software, or you can even just pull the USB cable. Since the updating process involve multiple reboots of the phone, and each one takes some time, it should be pretty easy to catch if you're paying attention.
KK2 is usually, though not always, pushed with 8107. It should not be pushed with 7720, which came out many months before KK2. 7720 is the first release Mango build. I recommend stopping after 7720, though 7740 may also be OK.
subraj said:
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
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Currently both Rogers and ATT have not pushed the KK2 firmware to the Focus, only the Omnia 7 has had the newest firmware pushed to it so you should be fine. If you plan on installing a custom ROM I DO suggest fully updating to 8107 via Zune to get the most upto date radio and then flashing the custom ROM to get the best battery/signal ect. (I suggest starting with the Rogers 7004 firmware since it updates all the way to 8107 via Zune where as the ATT one does not, as long as you have a v1.3 Focus it will flash fine on an ATT phone)
EDIT: also if you want a nice clean starting point to start you modding on your focus perhaps you might want to try my ROM posted in my sig below --v
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hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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I don't think that Nokia is getting exclusive features from microsoft. And there might be ways to port the nokia software but you never know. So if you're using your phone for navigation I would suggest you buying the nokia as this would give you a legal and good offline navi. Otherwise I'd go for the samsung for freedom reasons.
I have until 12AM tonight to decide if I accept a 7 Pro / HTC Arrive for £120.
The offer is tempting however having researched WM7 I just don't know if I should wait and get a cheap TP2 with 6.5 instead.
It seems everything I loved about WM6.5 is gone in WM7 which appears to be more like an iOS interface and locked out of many apps. I know there is some improvement in Mango but this just seems to be more of an enhancement over the original canvas.
Currently using a TP1 but the keys have worn out.
Any contributions would be appreciated.
matt09 said:
I have until 12AM tonight to decide if I accept a 7 Pro / HTC Arrive for £120.
The offer is tempting however having researched WM7 I just don't know if I should wait and get a cheap TP2 with 6.5 instead.
It seems everything I loved about WM6.5 is gone in WM7 which appears to be more like an iOS interface and locked out of many apps. I know there is some improvement in Mango but this just seems to be more of an enhancement over the original canvas.
Currently using a TP1 but the keys have worn out.
Any contributions would be appreciated.
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What do you use your phone for? What would you want to use your phone for?
How much does the apps matter to you? What apps do you 'need'?
Are you into Music subscriptions? Are you into Xbox games?
I don't use an Xbox and am not interested in music subscriptions.
I don't tend to use it for internet much either, mainly calls and texts but I have alot of rare apps relating to hobbies like tone signal generators and other stuff, it seems all of these would be gone.
Is it true that the phone can still not be accessed as a drive and has to go through web software still as this really puts me off the device.
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I don't use an Xbox and am not interested in music subscriptions.
I don't tend to use it for internet much either, mainly calls and texts but I have alot of rare apps relating to hobbies like tone signal generators and other stuff, it seems all of these would be gone.
Is it true that the phone can still not be accessed as a drive and has to go through web software still as this really puts me off the device.
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I think in that case 6.5 is mostly a better choice. However the Gen1 phones have gone to a stage full unlock where you could use the root tools to edit registry, custom ROMs, use file explorers, advanced config tool etc - that lets you use your phone to side load apps, more or less as an usb drive too. However, I am not very sure if all your apps can come with you. The kernel is different and I am pretty sure there will be limitations to it.
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
matt09 said:
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
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i personally have an htc 7 pro which is the arrive. and i can say after 10/11 month of use, its a really good phone. i have all the apps that i need, and WP7 is just the future, and dont look back on wm6.5. or do you still run you PC on a win95??? just look in the future, there are coming all the apps that you need for wp7 in the future, but the new ones arent coming to wm6.5.
and the future for wp7 holds a new system, which is about to come later this year. i mea nthe wp8. and all thing tend that its an update that all users of wp7 get. sooner or later
matt09 said:
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
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Not at the moment. The system is pretty much locked down and secured. Even if someone is able to have custom ROMs on most WP7.5 phones, I think they might prefer making custom WP7.5 ROMs. It might be hard to find a ROM chef willing to port a WM6.5 to WP7.5 hardware!
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Not at the moment. The system is pretty much locked down and secured
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Ok thanks that pretty much settles it then, i just wish it was possible to upgrade the TP2 hardware there seems to be no equivalent other than the expensive Droid phones
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Ok thanks that pretty much settles it then, i just wish it was possible to upgrade the TP2 hardware there seems to be no equivalent other than the expensive Droid phones
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Could you not keep your old phone as your toy for hobbies and get a new WP7 phone? You never know you might like it! Plus in a few months or even a year while you continue your hobbies on the old phone, someone might be able to think of having 6.5 on WP7 (to me I will still be surprised if anyone wants to go back!)?
I am saying this with a huge stone on my heart and bitting a few too many bullets but ---
IF you think one of the droid boys can let you use your old hobby apps on those phones, get a droid.
I have the 7 Pro and I have to say it really is a great phone. I wouldnt go back to TP2 or similar anymore.