Hello.
I've been reading alot in this topic, and i would like to know wether its possible or not for me .
I bought Nokia Lumia 800, and got the newest update. Im really new at W7 phones, since ive always used iPhone. Been JB'ing alot etc, but this is very different and i dont want to brick my lumia.
So my question is; is it possible to follow the guide, and install this rom on my Lumia 800, with the newest update?
Thanks!
- Kreutzer1.
You say "this ROM" but don't mention any ROM... kinda confused. You can install official ROMs on the Lumias, I assume, and you can certainly send update CABs. However, custom ROMs are not yet supported on the Lumia.
Your subject line asks about changing themes. Creatinga custom theme requires at least registry access, and for a full theme it requires filesystem access too. So far, nobody has managed to get either one on the Lumia phones.
On the other hand, they just came out. Give it a little time - they're among the most popular WP7 phones and I'm sure there will be hacks for them soon enough.
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Thanks for your reply.
I apologize, i was supposed to link this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271118&page=148
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i am thinking to buy the Lumia 710 when its available in India, but before buying i want to ask some questions. I am a WP n00b and have only used once and that too for few minutes since WP are not that famous in India and i really liked it a lot.
Now my first question is-
1) What are the customization that we can do in WP like changing themes, changing the way the phone looks bla bla bla
2) is there any Custom ROMS available like in Android
3) Can we send files via bluetooth by hacking
4) How far will my Lumia 710 be upgraded, i mean until which version of windows i can expect the device to be upgraded
5) is the GPU powerful enough to run future games when more phones will be released with more powerful GPU
Hope someone will answer these questions and please forgive me if i am asking som ultra-n00b ques
1) Apart from changing the colour of the tiles, there isn't really any other way that you can customize WP7. There is a way on unlocked phones to theme the tiles which has recently been released here but it is pretty useless until live tiles work.
2) There are custom roms for HTC devices but none as so far for the Nokia devices.
3) Not as far as I know.
4) It is pretty much guaranteed that you will receive all of the upcoming WP7 updates, I'm not too sure about how Microsoft is going to support older devices when WP8 is released.
5) As there is a guideline which manufacturers have to follow when producing WP7s, pretty much all of the phones are similar power-wise. We'll have to wait for the Apollo update, which is rumoured to bring dual-core support to windows phone and see what games are released then.
there are a lot of limitations so should i buy the Nokia Lumia 710 or the Xperia Play, please dont suggest me ANY other android phones
anyone please?
After using WP7 for more than 6 months and using Android earlier I recommend you to for WP7 smooth stable and beautiful design good features and battery life go for Samsung Omnia W which is due to release next week in India it has secondary camera as well
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thanks but i doubt i will ever buy a mobile phone other than Nokia/Sony/Apple
souvikroy1111 said:
thanks but i doubt i will ever buy a mobile phone other than Nokia/Sony/Apple
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maybe you're looking on technical support you've come to accustomed with...
anyway, i've used all kind of phones, and now that i tried this lumia 710 for two days it already move my razr into a backup handphone... LoL
simple, effective, beautifully done... couldn't asked for more
the razr will be my backup phone as games and multimedia powerhouse
I personally didnt like the nokia lumia 710 that much because I got use to a big screen from the hd2, sensation but overall the phone works great & the screen rotation is the fastest I seen on a phone.
lumia 710 is very good. vote 5 star/ 5 star. I like it....
Massive necropost there, lbshock, in the most "truly useless" sense of the word.
However, to avoid people getting confused when they read this 6-month-old thread, custom ROMs are now totally possible on the Lumia 710.
I have been a symbian fanboy and I found windows phone very interesting.
I decided to buy a windowsphone.
What I found after following windowsphone for sometime is that this os has some restrictions.
some of those restrictions like bt file sharing,usb mass storage mode etc can be lifted if you can unlock your phone completely.
I decided to buy 2nd gen phones like lumia 800 so that I can unlock them using chevron labs.but there seems to be no more new tokens.
but as of now there is no way to jailbreak 2nd gen phones.
So I decided to go for samsung focus.
what I fear now is will it be upgraded to windowsphone 8 or not?
will there be any method coming in the future to unlock 2nd gen phones?
I like to mod and install unsigned apps .
please suggest me friends what to do?
Well, there are no promises in hacking. It seems you have done your research so you kinda answered your own questions as much as anyone else could. Nobody knows what devices will get WP8 since MS hasnt stated anything one way or the other offcially. Basically if you want to mod to the fullest extent you need a first gen htc or samsung, to a lesser extent a second gen samsung should do fine. If you want to be sure to get WP8 wait untill MS says what will and what won't get it.
So far, all Windows phones have gotten all of the signifficant updates. We'll see how long this holds true, but the (admittedly short) history of the OS says that even though some devices may be a bit later than others, everybody gets the major updates. Microsoft seems to have committed to this pretty strongly. My guess is that they'll ship updates for all phones sold within a two-year period of the update coming out, since that's where people will be in contracts (I know some places do three-year contracts, but at the rate tech advances, three years is a long time).
The Focus was still on sale just a few months ago. I fully expect it to get updates through at least Windows Phone 8.5 (late 2013, by the current twice-annual-significant-update schedule). No guarantees, of course, but that's my guess.
Additionally, you should be able to send updates via CAB files even if the phone falls out of official support. The firmware will get out of date, which might make some features of the new OSes less valuable (for example, Mango added the managed Compass API, but a firmware update was needed to make it usable). Bugfixes and major features will probably keep on coming, though. If nothing else, the Samsung gen1 phones have unlockable bootloaders, so you can install custom ROMs. The fact that you can run WP7 build 8107 on the HD2 - a phone that wasn't supposed to run WP7 at all - suggests that the Focus will probably be viable for quite some time.
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
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It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
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thanks mate you have been so helpful to me.
btw how to stop updation process just after mango so that kk2 fw wont be installed on my phone?
will kk2 be shown as separate update or does it come with mango?
I think most the chefs turn the auto update off. I could be wrong, but my phone has not auto updated. I am using Nextgen ROM.
Updates are installed in order. After each one, the Zune software will check for more updates. You can cancel the update process at any time except when the phone is actually being flashed. There's a cancel button on the Zune software, or you can even just pull the USB cable. Since the updating process involve multiple reboots of the phone, and each one takes some time, it should be pretty easy to catch if you're paying attention.
KK2 is usually, though not always, pushed with 8107. It should not be pushed with 7720, which came out many months before KK2. 7720 is the first release Mango build. I recommend stopping after 7720, though 7740 may also be OK.
subraj said:
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
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Currently both Rogers and ATT have not pushed the KK2 firmware to the Focus, only the Omnia 7 has had the newest firmware pushed to it so you should be fine. If you plan on installing a custom ROM I DO suggest fully updating to 8107 via Zune to get the most upto date radio and then flashing the custom ROM to get the best battery/signal ect. (I suggest starting with the Rogers 7004 firmware since it updates all the way to 8107 via Zune where as the ATT one does not, as long as you have a v1.3 Focus it will flash fine on an ATT phone)
EDIT: also if you want a nice clean starting point to start you modding on your focus perhaps you might want to try my ROM posted in my sig below --v
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hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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I don't think that Nokia is getting exclusive features from microsoft. And there might be ways to port the nokia software but you never know. So if you're using your phone for navigation I would suggest you buying the nokia as this would give you a legal and good offline navi. Otherwise I'd go for the samsung for freedom reasons.
Hey guys
So uhh I've been recently thinking about installing custom rom on my titan since I will be getting a Lumia 920 no matter what. My titan is still a virgin lol so its basically untouched, no hspl or dev-unlock. Since the fate of current WP7 devices will stick to the current kernel and not get WP8 officially, might as well reasses my options with this phone. It has served me well for nearly a year now but now WP8 phones have been announced, I think its time to unlock more potential from this phone. So how do you benefit from using a custom rom? I'd really love to get nokia apps, and system homebrew apps which adds more functionality to it, but the risks of losing sms and game progress, is it really worth it?
im looking for a list of phones that can dual boot Android and Windows phone 7 or 8.
currently i have an HD2 that is capable of this and while i like this phone, im interested in seeing what other phones have this capability as well and how they compare to HD2.
The reason im asking here is because i have had some trouble finding an updated list of the phones that have this ability. Now i could search through each phones thread 1 by 1 figure this out, but it would be nice to also be able to compare hardware at the same time to see how they all match up.
Any help in finding a list that can do this would be appreciated.
HTC
I heard a while back that HTC was creating a dual-bootable phone running Android (Probably KitKat as of today) and Windows Phone OS.
As nice as that sounds, I highly doubt that will ever materialize, or if there will ever be a phone in existence that dual boots from factory.
I think the toshiba TG01 also has similar capabilities as the HD2, but that is all I know.
this is the best list I found in google: http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/dual-boot/ which is xda blog lol
thanks for the responses guys. when researching this subject i realized that my search results were mainly coming up as info regarding how microsoft could be interested in making it easier to dual boot phones in the future. while this is nice, it doesn't help me now.
whether factory or through a custom flash, im simply interested in a phone that could do more than just one mobile OS. according to the link above, at least there's a few phones that have this cabability.
my goal is to upgrade from my HD2 to newer hardware, while improving all the functions and capability that i now have.
at least now we have a rough draft of a few devices that have this rare ability.
Hello all!
I've always been exclusively Android and never even thought about trying iOS.
But when MS put out WindowsPhone 8 I was extremely curious.
Now I'm about to grab an 8X off of eBay just to try it out!
Some things to know:
I'm on Verizon
I may want to "hack" this thing (I used to flash ROMs and kernels all day with my old Galaxy Nexus)
I have a lot of Google stuff i.e. Play Music, Drive etc..
Things I need to know:
Will this phone get WP 8.1?
Are there problems with the 8.1 Developer Preview once installed? (with the LTE or Beats Audio functionality or anything)
Are there benefits from unlocking these phones like free tethering and whatnot?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
I don't know much about this phone. I just got one as well.
But it seems to me that it's the complete opposite of a galaxy nexus : everything is blocked, impossible to flash downgrades, community is therefore not very interested in a phone that HTC didn't intend for "hack"
On the other hand I think it will officially get 8.1. And its a really nice phone I think (I use a nexus 4 as my daily one).
And for Google stuff use a Google phone (no gmail app on wp)
I have one branded and blocked. Kind of discouraging when you've easily flashed thousand of ROMs on other devices..
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I don't know much about this phone. I just got one as well.
But it seems to me that it's the complete opposite of a galaxy nexus : everything is blocked, impossible to flash downgrades, community is therefore not very interested in a phone that HTC didn't intend for "hack"
On the other hand I think it will officially get 8.1. And its a really nice phone I think (I use a nexus 4 as my daily one).
And for Google stuff use a Google phone (no gmail app on wp)
I have one branded and blocked. Kind of discouraging when you've easily flashed thousand of ROMs on other devices..
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Hey thanks for replying!
But yeah I assumed most Windows Phones would be locked up. Especially compared to a stock Android phone like a Nexus.
I just thing it would be cool to try out. I don't ever get much facetime with anything WP related.
Would make for an interesting change! I'll keep my Moto X around for sure though.
As someone with the TMO branded device, It is a nice phone. The Developer Preview for 8.1 has known issues with configuring CDMA devices. (it will be fixed in the final release).
As far as Windows Phone goes, it is perfectly hackable, it just comes down to sheer volume....Most people with a Windows Phone have a Lumia, so there are more people working on that. There are a couple of ways to load custom/other firmware for some variants of the 8x. (Most people have been posting in the WP8 General forum)
Also, HTC and Microsoft have both announced that the phone will be getting an official update to Windows Phone 8.1.
Hope that helps!