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I'm currently deployed in Afghanistan and ordered the 6200 to work with GPRS out here, sadly enough that's the only reliable data connection available. I googled at&t and T-Mobile frequency bands but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at.
Could someone please let me know which carrier I'll be able to use this on with 3G when I return home next year? Thanks!
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As long as it is sim unlocked then it should (technically) work with either one on 3G since AT&T uses the 850/1900MHz frequency and T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100MHz. The model you have (P6200) is listed for 900/1900/2100MHz frequencies for 3G.
It will work on both of them under 2G for sure since it is quad-band GSM.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p6200_galaxy_tab_7_0_plus-4208.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
This is just a guess based on what little I know about these things so I can't guarantee this.
scottypimpin636 said:
I'm currently deployed in Afghanistan and ordered the 6200 to work with GPRS out here, sadly enough that's the only reliable data connection available. I googled at&t and T-Mobile frequency bands but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at.
Could someone please let me know which carrier I'll be able to use this on with 3G when I return home next year? Thanks!
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That's exactly what I'm confused about. If T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 does that mean the device only needs to support 2100 or both?
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It will only works on att, I have the same unlocked phone, tried tmo and only getting edge. Yea, mine comes with phone ability and unlocked
Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
Check out my thread on getting this phone to work on WIND (similar to T-Mobile, but in Canada). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323
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Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
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There's a ton of posts on the One X forum where people got it working using EDGE for data. Folks on this forum are trying to get the XL working for 3G data on Wind. If they do, it'll work on T-Mobile U.S. also.
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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There's a huge conversation going on about what's published and what the radio's capable of. There's a hack for the G-Note that folks are going to try and make work on the One X (assuming the h/w supports the bands). With the hack, the G-Note lost a bunch of signal strength and battery life so it's far from perfect.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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Hardware-wise it has.
If you go to HTC USA website you see that it does. The Tegra 3 based international version doesn't, but Rogers/AT&T version does. There is another thread where someone purchased the Rogers version and tried to use it on WIND (which uses the same band as tmobile usa), and got no data (phone is unlocked, but no edge no 3G). If the problem is due to the lack of WIND/tmobile 3G bands, he would have at least get EDGE data. He contacted HTC Canada and HTC verified that the phone hardware indeed support those band, and the issue has to do with Rogers implementation of the software.
The same happened with AT&T Galaxy Note. It supports tmobile 3G band, but was disabled in software. People here are able to open up those bands by flashing new radio on it.
It is still not know whether the AT&T One X has T-Mobile 3G bands disabled in software or not, and if it does, whether it can be easily re-enabled. But the hardware support is there.
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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No, it's locked to AT&T man.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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As long as you purchase an unlock code and unlock the phone then it will give you edge + voice on Tmobile.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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This sucks. I'm on Tmobile and was holding out for the AT&T One X to use on Tmobile. Didnt want the One S because of the small screen. May have to go with the Galaxy Nexus for 400.00.
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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1900 hasn't been refarmed in my area but that would be the only option for somebody to use the One X on 3g/4g.
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Yes...most definitely. Once the AT&T version is officially released, you'll likely see numerous posts on how to unlock. There are some threads already starting if you search...
Here is an unlock site the says they can unlock the ONE X (AT&T Version) phone already. It costs in the neighborhood of $15, but that is a small price to pay to carrier unlock. If you live in a TMobile area that has reassigned their HSPA+ to the same 1900MHz Band AT&T uses it should be well worth being able to grab a tmobile sim for back up data or switching over completely. From what I have read, TMobile will be moving most of their markets HSPA+ to the 1900 MHz band in the not too distant future so this could be win win. I am going to give this a shot on May 4th when my phone is supposed to show up, I will post back with my success or failure.
Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Sorry, that's a negative.
There are several variations of the Snapdragon S4. Some with LTE, some without.
In this case, the One X LTE has the S4 MSM8960 with LTE. The One S has the S4 MSM8260A, without LTE.
What exactly is WCDMA AWS band? Because on the HTC website it says the One XL has that. I thought that is both bands for tmobile 4G.
The Tmobile version looks like it has the 850/1900 bands to work on ATT's network? Does it in practice?
I know one problem might be the micro sim card idk if att uses those at all. I guesse u could probably just cut a regular one
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I agree the att one x will have the same awesome krait prossecor and it might have the same internals maybe making it possible to flash one s roms with the art one x. Because the att one x and international one x won't be able to flash each others Roms
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ATT uses micro sim, that's not an issue.
Frankly I find these LTE just getting to be ridiculously big. The HTC One S is the perfect size imo.
According to the FCC document for the t-mobile version, it's supports WCDMA 850 (ATT), 1700 (T-mobile) and 1900 (ATT,T-mobile). So I should fine on ATT's network as long as I put in the correct APN right?
Also looking for clarification on this...
It probably will, but it has to be unlocked and for that to happen, we need S-Off which could very well be a few months away. Why don't you buy the international, unlocked version outright? You also get your choice of colors (red/black as well instead of just blue/grey).
Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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Lol u mean unlocking phone to use it on att requires s off? NOOO. DOESN'T NEED TO BE S OFF. Just get unlock key and done.
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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so do you know if the t-mobile version has both 850/1900 bands? or just one of them?
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
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I unlocked it through ebay. just search in ebay "htc one s unlock" its about 8USD. you pay and then you leave a message with your IMEI number
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I live in India where I can't get it
Can I try Cellunlocker.net
There it is for $10
I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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ATT uses 1900, in some markets, ATT uses the mixture of both, 850 has better penetration in urban areas (tall buildings ...)
I'm interested in the phone, but i'm going to be using it on ATT. Can somebody that has the device tell us what is the FCC ID?
Quick trip to Phone Scoop website, i can see that there are two FCC ID's associated with the phone. NM8PJ40110 passed the tests using ATT WCDMA bands (band II 1900 and band V 850) and T-Mobile bands (band IV 1700/2100). NM8PJ40100 passed only ATT bands. Both doesn't show any reference to any test on WCDMA 2100 (band I), which probably means that the phone doesn't support the international 3G band.
In short, theoretically, the T-Mobile's version of HTC One S should work on ATT 3G bands (WCDMA band II and WCDMA band V), however, the phone would not support ATT LTE.
Since the hardware is there (FCC website proves it, unless if the official T-Mobile USA version got pushed with different FCC ID that i do not know), the phone should work on ATT 3G, but nothing prevents T-Mobile to disable the ATT 3G radios in their ROM. I think that S-OFF would give opportunity to enable the ATT radios (if they are blocked)
We will see ...
Take care,
From my experience, the ATT radio is not blocked and works fine.
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Ok well i know that it is possible to get T-Mo's "4g" HSPA+ on this device. However, i have not found a clear answer as to when t mobiles 46 lte launches, will an unlocked at&t i727 be able to work on this t-mobile 4g lte. I am stuck between whether i should buy the t989 or an unlocked i727 and use either one on t mobile and this may affect my decison.
Thanks.
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
This thread is relevant to my interests. T-mobile LTE will be Band 4, so does that mean the i727 won't work? Or does it have that band and they just aren't advertised? ATT does have some Band 4 holdings, so it's reasonable that they would want the i727 to work on LTE in those areas too.
If you get into Service Mode (*#2263#) and look at LTE bands, it's shown there. Don't know if it means that the phone is able to work with it, but might be.
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I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
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I know these arent lte speeds but after I switched from my junk Mytouch Q to this and flashed Tmobile radios, for my area this isnt bad
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If you get into Service Mode (*#2263#) and look at LTE bands, it's shown there. Don't know if it means that the phone is able to work with it, but might be.
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FYI - This only works on Touchwiz ROMs.
if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket will allow lte usage, on bands 700 and 1700, so with the correct radio (i757m modem from bell) u SHOULD be able to access it
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FYI - This only works on Touchwiz ROMs.
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It doesn't matter in this thread, since it's for reference only. If he won't be able to try it himself because he's not using TouchWiz - no biggie. But thanks for reminding me.
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if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket MAY allow lte usage, depending on the lte band they use. It'll probably be 1700 AWS though, which is an lte band I don't believe the skyrocket supports, only 700.
So basically, neither. But if ur a gambling man, at least with the skyrocket u stand a chance
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I thought the reason AT&T included the 1700 AWS band was b/c they were planning on turning that spectrum into LTE if the acquisition was successful. If so, wouldn't that mean that the 1700 band on the Skyrocket would support LTE Band 4?
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if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket MAY allow lte usage, depending on the lte band they use. It'll probably be 1700 AWS though, which is an lte band I don't believe the skyrocket supports, only 700.
So basically, neither. But if ur a gambling man, at least with the skyrocket u stand a chance
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according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices and this http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364 skyrocket supports 1700
vincom said:
according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices and this http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364 skyrocket supports 1700
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was under the impression 1700 for skyrocket was only for hspa, read it somewhere, I stand corrected
Just saw this very recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119406
If I'm not mistaken, the Note has the exact same radio setup as the Skyrocket (AWS and 700Mhz LTE). So, it's looking promising for our phones to work on LTE, too.
Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone got the unlocked i727 to successfully lock onto the T-mobile LTE network. I believe I read somewhere that someone had done it successfully but wanted to confirm since T-mobile has refarmed most areas by this time.
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Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone got the unlocked i727 to successfully lock onto the T-mobile LTE network. I believe I read somewhere that someone had done it successfully but wanted to confirm since T-mobile has refarmed most areas by this time.
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Did you search first? There is an active discussion going on right now in this same forum.
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Here's my skyrocket on T-Mobile LTE
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Here's my skyrocket on T-Mobile LTE
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Which Radio/Rom are you using?
Stock UCMC1 JB deodexed
I757m JB radio
mahanddeem said:
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
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Not true. I did it ... get 12 mpbs DL regularly on 4G. You'll need to try different radios but it's very possible.
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Not true. I did it ... get 12 mpbs DL regularly on 4G. You'll need to try different radios but it's very possible.
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Yes..I'm sorry...I didn't know that at the time I replied..They have LTE and ironically we skyrocket owners can access it and the T-Mobile s2 owners are left being lol...
I posted this in the wrong One X subforum initially, so here I go again.
If I were to buy an unlocked AT&T One X to use on T-Mobile, would I be able to pick up T-Mobile's LTE after they roll it out in 2013?
Is the only difference between the AT&T version of the phone and the international version that the AT&T version has a dual core chip and has LTE? Are there any other differences I should consider before purchasing?
What is the theoretical max speed of the HSPA+ of the chip on the AT&T phone? Is it the 42Mbps? (I live in a T-Mobile 42mbps market, so once they refarm to 1900MHz I'm wondering what I'll get at that time, before T-Mobile rolls out LTE)
Is there anything you think I should be aware of before I buy an unlocked AT&T One X to use on T-Mobile?
1. If the band frequencies match then yes it may be possible
2 and 3. Google it, you spent more time on this post then it would take to research it
4. You won't be able to root it unless you get luck with a one x with 1.85
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TechieGeek said:
I posted this in the wrong One X subforum initially, so here I go again.
If I were to buy an unlocked AT&T One X to use on T-Mobile, would I be able to pick up T-Mobile's LTE after they roll it out in 2013?
Is the only difference between the AT&T version of the phone and the international version that the AT&T version has a dual core chip and has LTE? Are there any other differences I should consider before purchasing?
What is the theoretical max speed of the HSPA+ of the chip on the AT&T phone? Is it the 42Mbps? (I live in a T-Mobile 42mbps market, so once they refarm to 1900MHz I'm wondering what I'll get at that time, before T-Mobile rolls out LTE)
Is there anything you think I should be aware of before I buy an unlocked AT&T One X to use on T-Mobile?
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Why not just wait? Or buy an International edition? Until they transition their bands you will only get EDGE on your phone. And then most likely it won't work on LTE when they roll it out even assuming you are in the first LTE rollout.