http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/20/rogers-htc-one-x-now-available/
I see that the offer expires April 30th. Should I take that to mean that the phone releases after that date or? ?
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is the rogers one xl the same as the att one in terms of lte frequency?
gordongartrell said:
Here's the link: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/htc-one-x-pre-order
I can't find a link to pre-order the phone for existing customers though.
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if you go to the top and just click on the htc one link it says existing customers reserve.
shinji21 said:
is the rogers one xl the same as the att one in terms of lte frequency?
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i want to know this as well. also, does anybody know if it's 16gb like the U.S. one?
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is the rogers one xl the same as the att one in terms of lte frequency?
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Yup. The Rogers version and the AT&T versions are exactly the same. Except for the bloatware of course.
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Same ...
I reserved mine two days ago, and am #3 in Canada on the list. Woohoo, although, I wanted to be #1. Damn, two other people were faster than me.
Yes, I'm an existing customer ... have been for years.
Yes, the Rogers and AT&T units are effectively the same, using the same frequencies.
The Rogers/AT&T versions will have 16GB internal storage.
Peter
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[email protected] said:
I see that the offer expires April 30th. Should I take that to mean that the phone releases after that date or? ?
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The Rogers press release clearly says it will be available in April, although, it does not give a specific date.
Peter
P.S. On-The-Go-Solutions in the US NOW has stock on the International version, HTC ONE X, with 32GB storage. They began having stock yesterday, and still have stock. I spoke with them this morning. Here's the link:
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_ONE_X
the phone is set to be release april 20th, according to mobilesyrup
Is this really the HTC One XL though?
or the X?
No where on the Roger's site does it say it supports LTE, and I assume that if it had LTE it would be marketing that.
If that's the case, wouldn't it just be the HTC One X with the quad core Terga 3 instead of the new dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor?
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Okay did some more research...
Looks like Redboards mention that they're bringing in new LTE devices, and it includes the HTC One X on that list.
Since Rogers uses AWS as their LTE network, it makes sense they're bringing in the AT&T version of the HTC One X (which is essentially the International version of HTC One XL but different LTE band)...
I guess it's the Snapdragon processor then... now then it makes me wonder, what's the battery life going to be compared to the international version of the HTC One X, which I hear isn't good at all...
I know the 3G bands are the same, but my question is... Are the LTE bands compatible between Rogers and ATT?
HTC One X dummy phones are now on display in Rogers stores in Canada.
Does the XL version support cdma 2000 and gsm ?
does anyone know whether there will be physical rogers branding on the XL?
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I know the 3G bands are the same, but my question is... Are the LTE bands compatible between Rogers and ATT?
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David, whenever you hear Rogers, you hear AT&T, and vice-versa.
They use the same bands, the same brands, the same everything, except for a couple of specific exceptions.
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David, whenever you hear Rogers, you hear AT&T, and vice-versa.
They use the same bands, the same brands, the same everything, except for a couple of specific exceptions.
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This has been true with 2G and 3G, however Telus, Bell and Rogers are using their Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum for LTE but plan to move to into the 700 MHz bands once Canadian regulators begin auctioning it off next year.
So right now as it stands, AT&T is using 700MHz for LTE and Rogers is using 1700/2100/2600MHz for their LTE.
Source: http://gigaom.com/broadband/canada-gets-two-new-lte-networks-thanks-to-rogers/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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David, whenever you hear Rogers, you hear AT&T, and vice-versa.
They use the same bands, the same brands, the same everything, except for a couple of specific exceptions.
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Red5 said:
This has been true with 2G and 3G, however Telus, Bell and Rogers are using their Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum for LTE but plan to move to into the 700 MHz bands once Canadian regulators begin auctioning it off next year.
So right now as it stands, AT&T is using 700MHz for LTE and Rogers is using 1700/2100/2600MHz for their LTE.
Source: http://gigaom.com/broadband/canada-gets-two-new-lte-networks-thanks-to-rogers/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Red: But from the wikipedia page, it says ATT is Band 4 as Rogers, so I am guessing ATT is 700/1700/2100, while Rogers is 1700/2100/2600?
Which means that most probably Rogers XL will support bands 1700/2100 which will work for ATT?
Thanks a lot to both of you!
Don't know how true it is, but I read that the One X is coming to Rogers, meaning no LTE. Not the One XL which has LTE for ATT.
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Red: But from the wikipedia page, it says ATT is Band 4 as Rogers, so I am guessing ATT is 700/1700/2100, while Rogers is 1700/2100/2600?
Which means that most probably Rogers XL will support bands 1700/2100 which will work for ATT?
Thanks a lot to both of you!
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AT&T just has band 4, which is 700. They do have a few licenses in remote areas for 1700/2100. WHat it looks like to me, from the sources I posted earlier, Rogers is only using 1700/2100 and just recently 2600. They do hope to get 700 next year once it goes on sale.
I guess the 1700/2100 would be comparable between both.
Ahh, all the mistakes ...
First, the Rogers and AT&T units are effectively the same. They use the same bands, which is 700/1700/2100 for LTE. Yes, the 700 band is not yet in use in Canada, but the phone will be capable of using it. Here's a cut & paste from Rogers site:
HTC One X features a large 4.7” Super LCD display with brilliant HD 720p resolution. Now the same clarity and vivid colour you expect from an HDTV can be found on your smartphone. You’ll be glad you have this amazing clear picture as you browse the web, stream HD video, and play the latest games over Rogers blazingly fast LTE network with download speeds up to 75Mbps.
Here's another cut & paste from HTC's site in Canada referring to the Rogers unit:
LTE CAT3: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
Two, it appears that Rogers is calling it the ONE X even though it's the same as the ONE XL. I don't think Rogers wants the "L" in their advertising, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE FULLY CAPABLE OF LTE.
Three, the Rogers unit will be white. Whether they get the grey version remains to be seen.
Four, oh, sorry, there is no four.
Five, hmm, there isn't a five, either.
Six, okay, if you're still reading ... STOP, and move on.
Seven, Bye!
Peter
PeterHTC said:
First, the Rogers and AT&T units are effectively the same. They use the same bands, which is 700/1700/2100 for LTE. Yes, the 700 band is not yet in use in Canada, but the phone will be capable of using it. Here's a cut & paste from Rogers site:
HTC One X features a large 4.7” Super LCD display with brilliant HD 720p resolution. Now the same clarity and vivid colour you expect from an HDTV can be found on your smartphone. You’ll be glad you have this amazing clear picture as you browse the web, stream HD video, and play the latest games over Rogers blazingly fast LTE network with download speeds up to 75Mbps.
Here's another cut & paste from HTC's site in Canada referring to the Rogers unit:
LTE CAT3: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
Two, it appears that Rogers is calling it the ONE X even though it's the same as the ONE XL. I don't think Rogers wants the "L" in their advertising, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE FULLY CAPABLE OF LTE.
Three, the Rogers unit will be white. Whether they get the grey version remains to be seen.
Four, oh, sorry, there is no four.
Five, hmm, there isn't a five, either.
Six, okay, if you're still reading ... STOP, and move on.
Seven, Bye!
Peter
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Thanks for the clear explanation. The One X name threw me off there...
The phone can't get here soon enough!
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Don't know how true it is, but I read that the One X is coming to Rogers, meaning no LTE. Not the One XL which has LTE for ATT.
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It's the One XL, but since we're in North America, it's just branded as the One X here. Rest assured, it's definitely the dual-core Snapdragon S4 model with LTE and 16GB of RAM.
Although all this information's available on the internet, I've got a couple friends who work in the Marketing and Mobile Device Management departments at Rogers, and they've confirmed this.
Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
Check out my thread on getting this phone to work on WIND (similar to T-Mobile, but in Canada). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323
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Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
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There's a ton of posts on the One X forum where people got it working using EDGE for data. Folks on this forum are trying to get the XL working for 3G data on Wind. If they do, it'll work on T-Mobile U.S. also.
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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There's a huge conversation going on about what's published and what the radio's capable of. There's a hack for the G-Note that folks are going to try and make work on the One X (assuming the h/w supports the bands). With the hack, the G-Note lost a bunch of signal strength and battery life so it's far from perfect.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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Hardware-wise it has.
If you go to HTC USA website you see that it does. The Tegra 3 based international version doesn't, but Rogers/AT&T version does. There is another thread where someone purchased the Rogers version and tried to use it on WIND (which uses the same band as tmobile usa), and got no data (phone is unlocked, but no edge no 3G). If the problem is due to the lack of WIND/tmobile 3G bands, he would have at least get EDGE data. He contacted HTC Canada and HTC verified that the phone hardware indeed support those band, and the issue has to do with Rogers implementation of the software.
The same happened with AT&T Galaxy Note. It supports tmobile 3G band, but was disabled in software. People here are able to open up those bands by flashing new radio on it.
It is still not know whether the AT&T One X has T-Mobile 3G bands disabled in software or not, and if it does, whether it can be easily re-enabled. But the hardware support is there.
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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no
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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No, it's locked to AT&T man.
cmaxwe said:
I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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As long as you purchase an unlock code and unlock the phone then it will give you edge + voice on Tmobile.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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This sucks. I'm on Tmobile and was holding out for the AT&T One X to use on Tmobile. Didnt want the One S because of the small screen. May have to go with the Galaxy Nexus for 400.00.
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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1900 hasn't been refarmed in my area but that would be the only option for somebody to use the One X on 3g/4g.
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Yes...most definitely. Once the AT&T version is officially released, you'll likely see numerous posts on how to unlock. There are some threads already starting if you search...
Here is an unlock site the says they can unlock the ONE X (AT&T Version) phone already. It costs in the neighborhood of $15, but that is a small price to pay to carrier unlock. If you live in a TMobile area that has reassigned their HSPA+ to the same 1900MHz Band AT&T uses it should be well worth being able to grab a tmobile sim for back up data or switching over completely. From what I have read, TMobile will be moving most of their markets HSPA+ to the 1900 MHz band in the not too distant future so this could be win win. I am going to give this a shot on May 4th when my phone is supposed to show up, I will post back with my success or failure.
Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Sorry, that's a negative.
There are several variations of the Snapdragon S4. Some with LTE, some without.
In this case, the One X LTE has the S4 MSM8960 with LTE. The One S has the S4 MSM8260A, without LTE.
What exactly is WCDMA AWS band? Because on the HTC website it says the One XL has that. I thought that is both bands for tmobile 4G.
I've seen mixed information about how well TMobs One S will run on AT&T. So I have a couple questions to clarify...
1) I understand that it won't support LTE bands, but is AT&T HSPA+ supported?
2) What's the fastest down speed I could expect on AT&T?
3) Would I have any less coverage area by using the TMob One S on AT&T than the unlocked int'l version?
Thanks a lot!
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I've seen mixed information about how well TMobs One S will run on AT&T. So I have a couple questions to clarify...
1) I understand that it won't support LTE bands, but is AT&T HSPA+ supported?
2) What's the fastest down speed I could expect on AT&T?
3) Would I have any less coverage area by using the TMob One S on AT&T than the unlocked int'l version?
Thanks a lot!
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Right it does not support lte but it does fully support att HSPA.
Theoretical max is 21.1mbps.... I see a average of about 4 and a max of about 9 in the DC area. Which, I might add, is better than my wife's galaxy nexus.
You actually get better coverage with unlocked tmob one s than the unlocked Intl version... the Intl version does not support att hspa bands.
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Right it does not support lte but it does fully support att HSPA.
Theoretical max is 21.1mbps.... I see a average of about 4 and a max of about 9 in the DC area. Which, I might add, is better than my wife's galaxy nexus.
You actually get better coverage with unlocked tmob one s than the unlocked Intl version... the Intl version does not support att hspa bands.
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I really appreciate it. I wound up finally finding a good, more recent thread right before you made your reply, but maybe this will help someone else down the road as well. I'm trying to decide between One X and One S on Att so this was a huge help!
Has anyone unlocked and used the HTC One X on T-Mobile? Does the 3G/4G work?
Are you talking about AWS band support on the One X, or the deployment of T-Mobile's 3G/4G network on the 1900 MHz band?
The AT&T version of the One X does not support the AWS band used by T-Mobile for HSPA+ (3G/4G) data. Some have theorized that the One X has AWS support in hardware, but its just not supported in software. As was the case for some other AT&T phones like the Note and a couple others (flashing a different radio enable AWS support). But nobody has gotten this working on the One X. Some folks have speculated that it might be possible if/when we get S-Off.
But also, T-Mobile has started deploying 3G/4G on the 1900 MHz band in some markets: http://androidandme.com/2012/09/carriers/t-mobile-one-city-closer-to-nationwide-4g-hspa-for-unlocked-and-att-phones/
If you are in one of those markets, you may get 3G/4G data speeds on the AT&T One X.
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Some folks have speculated that it might be possible if/when we get S-Off.
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Sadly it doesn't look like we're getting S-Off anytime soon. :crying:
Thanks Though!