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AT&T HTC One X not One XL

I am confused as I am sure a lot of others are but the HTC One XL is not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is still called the HTC One X. As shown on GSMArena and on the HTC Site. The HTC One X with Tegra(International-non LTE), The HTC One XL SnapDragon(International-LTE) and The HTC AT&T One X.
The AT&T One X has very different LTE bands and international LTE
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
The HTC One X (international) non-LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-4320.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
The HTC One XL (international) LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 1800 / 2600
Am I the only one confused??? These are from what I am reading, 3 totally types of the HTC One X, so it should be 3 different forums, right??

sans bands, the HTC One X on AT&T and the HTC One XL International are the same device. hardware, and software wise, thus, for development purposes have been lumped into the same category.
I'm not 100% how radios work though, so we may need a separate AT&T forum for AT&T development, in the case that radios are hard wired to accept only certain bands. I assume that the radios can be attenuated to receive different signal however.
Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong.

This will serve as the home for both the One XL (international Snapdragon S4 device) and AT&T One X. They are largely the same, although we'll need to switch out radios and such for different carriers. It should be very easy.

x3phyr said:
sans bands, the HTC One X on AT&T and the HTC One XL International are the same device. hardware, and software wise, thus, for development purposes have been lumped into the same category.
I'm not 100% how radios work though, so we may need a separate AT&T forum for AT&T development, in the case that radios are hard wired to accept only certain bands. I assume that the radios can be attenuated to receive different signal however.
Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Your post sounds as correct as what Ive been led to believe. The only difference is the radios for the different bands, which should be easy enough to swap around. All other development should be the exact same. Even though AT&T is calling their phone the One X, its essentially the One XL.

Red5 said:
Your post sounds as correct as what Ive been led to believe. The only difference is the radios for the different bands, which should be easy enough to swap around. All other development should be the exact same. Even though AT&T is calling their phone the One X, its essentially the One XL.
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Not only is it essentially the One XL, it is the One XL. Both have codename Evita in the bootloader.
It's like the Desire HD and Inspire 4G. You should be able to swap radios in S-OFF, but you will likely get poorer reception as AT&T will have custom tweaks on the radio files for their network, that will not be in international radio images.

Slightly confusing, it's somewhat hard to discern bands with HTC. I know i did a lot of searching to see if the HTC Raider [Rogers] had AWS so it could be used on Wind/Mobilicity. On the Box it says LTE 1700/2100 which was a toss up as to if it would also fall under AWS. After much deliberation and searching it concluded that no it did not, thus me buying the Amaze 4G, which was a sure thing.
For all these models, im going to assume Rogers is going to get the AT&T Version? Looking at the speccs am I right to assume it only has the 2100 freq and not AWS? Or am I totally off and it has full fledged AWS?.
Edit: Upon further review both bands are on there for HSDPA. Lets pray that is in the final product.
I got to play with the HTC One S prototype the other day via my stores HTC rep. It's fluid and the new camera system is just fantastic. It's ultra slim and looks great. It'd look even better in white, but all he had was a grey one.

Radioslave said:
Slightly confusing, it's somewhat hard to discern bands with HTC. I know i did a lot of searching to see if the HTC Raider [Rogers] had AWS so it could be used on Wind/Mobilicity. On the Box it says LTE 1700/2100 which was a toss up as to if it would also fall under AWS. After much deliberation and searching it concluded that no it did not, thus me buying the Amaze 4G, which was a sure thing.
For all these models, im going to assume Rogers is going to get the AT&T Version? Looking at the speccs am I right to assume it only has the 2100 freq and not AWS? Or am I totally off and it has full fledged AWS?.
Edit: Upon further review both bands are on there for HSDPA. Lets pray that is in the final product.
I got to play with the HTC One S prototype the other day via my stores HTC rep. It's fluid and the new camera system is just fantastic. It's ultra slim and looks great. It'd look even better in white, but all he had was a grey one.
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So the One X on AT&T will have AWS and 2100mhz. AWS = 1700, which is why will all have hope it'll work in T-mobile and others that use AWS for 3/4G service.

ge3kswag said:
So the One X on AT&T will have AWS and 2100mhz. AWS = 1700, which is why will all have hope it'll work in T-mobile and others that use AWS for 3/4G service.
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Fantastic, lets hope the Rogers version is the same as the AT&T version, which it usually is.

ge3kswag said:
So the One X on AT&T will have AWS and 2100mhz. AWS = 1700, which is why will all have hope it'll work in T-mobile and others that use AWS for 3/4G service.
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AT&T is getting the One XL. Here are the bands from the HTC Asia spec page. It won't support AWS and only supports the 700MHz spectrum via LTE.
HSPA/WCDMA:
•ATT: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
•ATT: B4/B17
•Asia/AUS: 1800/2600 MHz
http://www.htc.com/asia/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs

ge3kswag said:
I am confused as I am sure a lot of others are but the HTC One XL is not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is still called the HTC One X. As shown on GSMArena and on the HTC Site. The HTC One X with Tegra(International-non LTE), The HTC One XL SnapDragon(International-LTE) and The HTC AT&T One X.
The AT&T One X has very different LTE bands and international LTE
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
The HTC One X (international) non-LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-4320.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
The HTC One XL (international) LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
2G/Edge Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G/WCDMA Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 1800 / 2600
Am I the only one confused??? These are from what I am reading, 3 totally types of the HTC One X, so it should be 3 different forums, right??
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Same thing. The One XL and AT&T One X have different supported radio bands, but they will run the same radio firmware if S-OFF. No more, no less.
Both the One XL and the AT&T One X have codename Evita, which means HTC considers both to be identical for development, and as such we should too.

Ahh, the confusion continues, if only people would read ...
Please have a look at one of my previous posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24936626#post24936626
So, as you can see, the Rogers unit will also simply be called the ONE X, even though it's LTE, and it will operate on LTE frequencies 700/1700. Although it does not specifically state 2100 on the Rogers site, this frequency is usually used for uploading and NOT downloading. The download frequencies are often the ones that people want to see.
Peter
Addendum: I should be getting my Rogers unit (#2 on the list in Canada for their pre-orders), either tomorrow or Thursday. Rogers generally starts shipping their pre-order units 1-2 days before they officially go on sale, which appears to be this Friday, April 20.

Since they are the same hardware the modem/radio's can be swapped if we get s-off so you can effectively use the international on ATT or T-Mobile and have 32gigs vs 16 and FM tuner. The AT&T version will have support for AWS and 2100mhz. This is stated on the US HTC One X page and Gsmarena.
BarryH_GEG said:
AT&T is getting the One XL. Here are the bands from the HTC Asia spec page. It won't support AWS and only supports the 700MHz spectrum via LTE.
HSPA/WCDMA:
•ATT: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
•ATT: B4/B17
•Asia/AUS: 1800/2600 MHz
http://www.htc.com/asia/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
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They are not the same as one the AT&T version is 16gigs and has no FM tuner. So, as I have stated, if it is unlocked and can get s-off we can then put the radio from the AT&T version into the unlocked international version and have 32gigs, FM Tuner and it will then work on AT&T or T-Mobile.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Same thing. The One XL and AT&T One X have different supported radio bands, but they will run the same radio firmware if S-OFF. No more, no less.
Both the One XL and the AT&T One X have codename Evita, which means HTC considers both to be identical for development, and as such we should too.
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PeterHTC said:
So, as you can see, the Rogers unit will also simply be called the ONE X, even though it's LTE, and it will operate on LTE frequencies 700/1700.
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The link I posted from HTC Asia lists the same LTE bands for AT&T's One XL (B4=1700, B17=700). AT&T's referring to it as the "One X" and dropping the "L" also. It also mentions HSPA 2100.

BarryH_GEG said:
The link I posted from HTC Asia lists the same LTE bands for AT&T's One XL (B4=1700, B17=700). AT&T's referring to it as the "One X" and dropping the "L" also. It also mentions HSPA 2100.
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The AT&T model is as follows
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
LTE - 700/AWS(1700)
WCDMA(HSPA) - 2100/1900/AWS(1700)/850
EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900
From this we can say that unlocked it will work with on T-Mobile's 4G network. This is confirmed by the bands being on the phone but default.

ge3kswag said:
They are not the same as one the AT&T version is 16gigs and has no FM tuner. So, as I have stated, if it is unlocked and can get s-off we can then put the radio from the AT&T version into the unlocked international version and have 32gigs, FM Tuner and it will then work on AT&T or T-Mobile.
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I know for sure that:
1. Putting an HTC One XL/AT&T One X radio image onto an HTC One X will brick your phone, S-OFF or not.
2. The international unlocked variant only supports running on AT&T, T-Mobile uses AWS and so as such only EDGE will work with the international variant on T-Mobile USA.
3. Software will not magically make it possible for you to gain an LTE chipset and the associated radio hardware. Read more. Radio images are mostly pointless to change in the first place and I would strongly suggest to stay with your carrier's radio images as they will have tweaked the radio firmware to best work on their network.

ge3kswag said:
From this we can say that unlocked it will work with on T-Mobile's 4G network. This is confirmed by the bands being on the phone but default.
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This conflicts with the HTC Asia site which lists the AT&T phone's WCDMA bands as 850/1900/2100 MHz. And when you think about it, why would AT&T want to deploy a device that could so easily be used on a competitor’s network? The T-Mobile G2X was documented as being quad-band and when it shipped it wasn't. Someone needs to test the AT&T One X on T-Mobile before declaring victory. Everyone thought the same thing about the G-Note and it too used a Qualcomm chip. This is what Engadget had to say.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/psa-atandts-galaxy-note-does-not-support-aws-for-hspa/
There was a hack found but the signal is weak and it drains the battery faster than stock. So it might be possible to hack the One X if it doesn't work out-of-the-box.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/galaxy-note-gains-tmobile-hspa-access/

1. This is untrue, the chipset is the same and only radio is different so with s-off this is possible.
2. This is obvious without the radio swap as i have already stated.
3. This international One XL is already LTE capable, so not sure what you are referring too, maybe you should read up a little more. Example, T-Mobile SGS2 and ATT SkyRocket. So again, maybe read up a little more.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
I know for sure that:
1. Putting an HTC One XL/AT&T One X radio image onto an HTC One X will brick your phone, S-OFF or not.
2. The international unlocked variant only supports running on AT&T, T-Mobile uses AWS and so as such only EDGE will work with the international variant on T-Mobile USA.
3. Software will not magically make it possible for you to gain an LTE chipset and the associated radio hardware. Read more. Radio images are mostly pointless to change in the first place and I would strongly suggest to stay with your carrier's radio images as they will have tweaked the radio firmware to best work on their network.
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Lets remember, the HTC Asia site is showing the international S4 version of the One X not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is on the HTC US page AT&T branded, as i have posted by link a few times. It clearly states it will carry AWS bands. This is an HTC site so I don't think to doubt it.
BarryH_GEG said:
This conflicts with the HTC Asia site which lists the AT&T phone's WCDMA bands as 850/1900/2100 MHz. And when you think about it, why would AT&T want to deploy a device that could so easily be used on a competitor’s network? The T-Mobile G2X was documented as being quad-band and when it shipped it wasn't. Someone needs to test the AT&T One X on T-Mobile before declaring victory. Everyone thought the same thing about the G-Note and it too used a Qualcomm chip. This is what Engadget had to say.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/psa-atandts-galaxy-note-does-not-support-aws-for-hspa/
There was a hack found but the signal is weak and it drains the battery faster than stock. So it might be possible to hack the One X if it doesn't work out-of-the-box.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/galaxy-note-gains-tmobile-hspa-access/
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ge3kswag said:
Lets remember, the HTC Asia site is showing the international S4 version of the One X not the AT&T version. The AT&T version is on the HTC US page AT&T branded, as i have posted by link a few times. It clearly states it will carry AWS bands. This is an HTC site so I don't think to doubt it.
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Did you look at the HTC Asia link for the One XL? It specifically breaks out AT&T (by name) and Asia/Australia listing the bands for both. Since they're both official sites maintained by HTC one of them is wrong. Until the phone comes out and is in people's hands we won't know which one.

I agree, it is all nothing but speculation and it's all we can do until the phone comes out. Right now all we can do is hope and wish.

Use XL on T-Mobile USA?

Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.

Check out my thread on getting this phone to work on WIND (similar to T-Mobile, but in Canada). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323

madhad said:
Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
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There's a ton of posts on the One X forum where people got it working using EDGE for data. Folks on this forum are trying to get the XL working for 3G data on Wind. If they do, it'll work on T-Mobile U.S. also.

The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.

Red5 said:
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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There's a huge conversation going on about what's published and what the radio's capable of. There's a hack for the G-Note that folks are going to try and make work on the One X (assuming the h/w supports the bands). With the hack, the G-Note lost a bunch of signal strength and battery life so it's far from perfect.

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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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Hardware-wise it has.
If you go to HTC USA website you see that it does. The Tegra 3 based international version doesn't, but Rogers/AT&T version does. There is another thread where someone purchased the Rogers version and tried to use it on WIND (which uses the same band as tmobile usa), and got no data (phone is unlocked, but no edge no 3G). If the problem is due to the lack of WIND/tmobile 3G bands, he would have at least get EDGE data. He contacted HTC Canada and HTC verified that the phone hardware indeed support those band, and the issue has to do with Rogers implementation of the software.
The same happened with AT&T Galaxy Note. It supports tmobile 3G band, but was disabled in software. People here are able to open up those bands by flashing new radio on it.
It is still not know whether the AT&T One X has T-Mobile 3G bands disabled in software or not, and if it does, whether it can be easily re-enabled. But the hardware support is there.

So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?

k87 said:
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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no
10char

I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.

k87 said:
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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No, it's locked to AT&T man.

cmaxwe said:
I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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As long as you purchase an unlock code and unlock the phone then it will give you edge + voice on Tmobile.

cmaxwe said:
I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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This sucks. I'm on Tmobile and was holding out for the AT&T One X to use on Tmobile. Didnt want the One S because of the small screen. May have to go with the Galaxy Nexus for 400.00.
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?

methodz said:
Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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1900 hasn't been refarmed in my area but that would be the only option for somebody to use the One X on 3g/4g.
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?

madhad said:
Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Yes...most definitely. Once the AT&T version is officially released, you'll likely see numerous posts on how to unlock. There are some threads already starting if you search...

Here is an unlock site the says they can unlock the ONE X (AT&T Version) phone already. It costs in the neighborhood of $15, but that is a small price to pay to carrier unlock. If you live in a TMobile area that has reassigned their HSPA+ to the same 1900MHz Band AT&T uses it should be well worth being able to grab a tmobile sim for back up data or switching over completely. From what I have read, TMobile will be moving most of their markets HSPA+ to the 1900 MHz band in the not too distant future so this could be win win. I am going to give this a shot on May 4th when my phone is supposed to show up, I will post back with my success or failure.

Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.

mesasone said:
Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Sorry, that's a negative.
There are several variations of the Snapdragon S4. Some with LTE, some without.
In this case, the One X LTE has the S4 MSM8960 with LTE. The One S has the S4 MSM8260A, without LTE.

What exactly is WCDMA AWS band? Because on the HTC website it says the One XL has that. I thought that is both bands for tmobile 4G.

Wil US T-Mo One S work on AT&T?

I have AT&T service in the US and was interested in purchasing a US T-Mobile gradient blue One S to use with it. Will there be any issues with 3G/4G? Does the US T-Mobile One S support AT&T's data network fully?

Yes but I believe you will only get Edge Data.

EDGE is not 3G though, right?
Anyway, to quote Amazon.com's One S Page:
It runs on T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+ networks (850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)).
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That would mean it should work on AT&T's 3G network, right? 850/1900Mhz?
Bah, this is all so confusing.

EDGE is not 3G
You won't get 3G/4G speeds on AT&T with this phone.

Yes, what he said ^^ No 3G or 4G

On GSMArena Review their is written that it is at&t friendly as it has 850/1900 MHz Bands

hskharkunwar said:
On GSMArena Review their is written that it is at&t friendly as it has 850/1900 MHz Bands
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There's more than one version of the One S. The international One S will work on AT&T just fine.

Both the box it comes in and the specs on the T-Mo support site says the T-Mo One S supports:
Network
3G/4G Capable
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Band I (UMTS2100), Band II (1900), Band IV(1700/2100), Band V (850)
So I think it would get high speeds on AT&T.

I got this same question.. so if I buy this phone on US t mobile it will work with at&t 3G..?? If so I will be buying it right now..!!
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Just so you guys know, I bought an One S for use on Wind (Canadian network) and cannot find any site online that can sim unlock it.

ekolb123 said:
Just so you guys know, I bought an One S for use on Wind (Canadian network) and cannot find any site online that can sim unlock it.
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Which version of the one S do you have Tmobile or international?

US T-Mobile version, which i assume is what you guys are talking about.

Well according to videos and specs sheets t mobile HTC one s can run 3g/h on at&t (
And so, that means I will be getting HTC one s instead of att HTC one x because firstly att unlocked the bootloader and secondly there will be much more development for the htc one s because the att HTC one x is different to the international
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renehd2 said:
Well according to videos and specs sheets t mobile HTC one s can run 3g/h on at&t (
And so, that means I will be getting HTC one s instead of att HTC one x because firstly att unlocked the bootloader and secondly there will be much more development for the htc one s because the att HTC one x is different to the international
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You mean AT&T locked the bootloader...
I'm pretty sure GSM is voice/text/2G only and has not much to do with higher speed data. Somebody had posted a picture of the T-mobile One S box, which lists the bands it operates on.. which included UMTS 850 & 1900 as well as GSM 850 & 1900 (plus all the other T-mobile bands, obviously)
Whereas, as far as I can tell, the international One S does NOT have UMTS/HSDPA 1900 but does have GSM 1900

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You mean AT&T locked the bootloader...
I'm pretty sure GSM is voice/text/2G only and has not much to do with higher speed data. Somebody had posted a picture of the T-mobile One S box, which lists the bands it operates on.. which included UMTS 850 & 1900 as well as GSM 850 & 1900 (plus all the other T-mobile bands, obviously)
Whereas, as far as I can tell, the international One S does NOT have UMTS/HSDPA 1900 but does have GSM 1900
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Yeah I meant locked, well I have seen several videos where t mobile htc one s is getting 3G /H with at&t man, and as far as I know it has the same bands like the like the international one but, with the plud of the tmobile bands, but correct me if I'm wrong please
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renehd2 said:
Yeah I meant locked, well I have seen several videos where t mobile htc one s is getting 3G /H with at&t man, and as far as I know it has the same bands like the like the international one but, with the plud of the tmobile bands, but correct me if I'm wrong please
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Yea. Got my international one S yesterday and I rarely get more than 3 bars and is often switching between H and 3G. Haven't run an official speed test yet but data seems to be a little slower than with my A8182 Desire (including page processing)
Also lists compatible bands on the package and does not show 1900 under UMTS/WCDMA HSDPA, only GSM

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Also lists compatible bands on the package and does not show 1900 under UMTS/WCDMA HSDPA, only GSM
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I noticed the same. I just assumed that 1900 is 1900.
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile US One S unlocked and working on ATT. It seems as fast as the one x I had before it. The only strange thing is that when I run a speed test, it says 9kbps down and 1Mbit up. Pings are 150ms.
Browsing the web, downloading apps are much faster than 9kbps. Not sure why it says 9kbps.
**Update**
Ok, so I tried a different speedtest, and I am getting results I would expect.
3.5Mbit Down
1.1Mbit UP
Again, this is the T-Mobile US version of the One S that I manually unlocked.

mycomputerisjunk said:
I noticed the same. I just assumed that 1900 is 1900.
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile US One S unlocked and working on ATT. It seems as fast as the one x I had before it. The only strange thing is that when I run a speed test, it says 9kbps down and 1Mbit up. Pings are 150ms.
Browsing the web, downloading apps are much faster than 9kbps. Not sure why it says 9kbps.
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Ok, so I tried a different speedtest, and I am getting results I would expect.
3.5Mbit Down
1.1Mbit UP
Again, this is the T-Mobile US version of the One S that I manually unlocked.
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So you are confirming that tmous htc one s works with 3g att bands..?
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renehd2 said:
So you are confirming that tmous htc one s works with 3g att bands..?
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Yes.
My phone shows, H, 3G, and 2G in my area.
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ECEXCURSION said:
I have AT&T service in the US and was interested in purchasing a US T-Mobile gradient blue One S to use with it. Will there be any issues with 3G/4G? Does the US T-Mobile One S support AT&T's data network fully?
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Where were you purchasing it from? I signed up for a tmobile contract and paid the $189 for the phone then I think I will pay the $200 ETF in a few weeks. Which would be slightly cheaper than purchasing the phone outright or the international version.

mycomputerisjunk said:
I noticed the same. I just assumed that 1900 is 1900.
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile US One S unlocked and working on ATT. It seems as fast as the one x I had before it. The only strange thing is that when I run a speed test, it says 9kbps down and 1Mbit up. Pings are 150ms.
Browsing the web, downloading apps are much faster than 9kbps. Not sure why it says 9kbps.
**Update**
Ok, so I tried a different speedtest, and I am getting results I would expect.
3.5Mbit Down
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Again, this is the T-Mobile US version of the One S that I manually unlocked.
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What speed test did you get more accurate results with? I'd like to see what I get..
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[Q] Where can I buy a 32 gb One X with the S4 processor?

Hi,
I am looking for a One X with the S4 processor, but it needs to be at least 32gb.
I"m in the US.
Can someone please point me to names of stores where I can order online?
I'm thinking of places in Singapore or Hong Kong or Australia which actually have these devices for worldwide shipping?
Thanks!

I know the Australian version has 32 gb but if I'm not mistaken, the LTE won't work on AT&T because it's a different band.
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here's a question, if you were to flash an AT&T radio would the Australian phone get LTE in the US?

The 32 GB LTE One X are called the One XL. Operates on different LTE bands from what you have in the US. You can check out the bands in the specs for the AT&T One X here and the One XL here.
No, flashing radios doesn't change the bands it detects, bands should be based on hardware (I think). I've flashed the AT&T 2.09 radio and I'm using the Telus 1.91 radio now on my XL and I still have my LTE.

paulk_ said:
The 32 GB LTE One X are called the One XL. Operates on different LTE bands from what you have in the US. You can check out the bands in the specs for the AT&T One X here and the One XL here.
No, flashing radios doesn't change the bands it detects, bands should be based on hardware (I think). I've flashed the AT&T 2.09 radio and I'm using the Telus 1.91 radio now on my XL and I still have my LTE.
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well that's a bummer.

Do you guys know of the URLs of the web stores that would sell the one XL 32gb version? I do not need LTE because 1) HSPA+ is already super fast, faster than Comcast 2) LTE drains the battery to the point that it's no longer worth it

lamenramen said:
Do you guys know of the URLs of the web stores that would sell the one XL 32gb version? I do not need LTE because 1) HSPA+ is already super fast, faster than Comcast 2) LTE drains the battery to the point that it's no longer worth it
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Just an FYI, even though LTE does drain the battery faster than wifi, because it's built in to the S4, it really doesn't kill it that much. I still average over a day with 3-4 hrs screen on time using LTE which is better than any other phone I've ever used. The fastest speeds I've ever seen on HSPA+ were around 5-6 mbps whereas on LTE I can get over 30. It sucks that there's only 16gb in this thing but I'd rather have that and LTE than 32gb and no LTE.
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Agreed.
Guys, any idea about availability of 32 GB One XL?
Where can we find one?
Can't really find them on eBay in EU, most online stores (like Expansys) don't carry them.

Telcos in Singapore carry One XL with 32gig capacity. you may want to try your luck at ebay.com.sg

LTE is not a power hog anymore.
Yes hspda+ is veryfast. But LTE is sillyfast!
I rang up 45mbit the other day. You definitely notice a difference(not that hspda+ isn't fast enough). Browser and apps just fly. Enjoyable luxury.
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[Q] Is it a Pentaband?

Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know

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Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know
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It's not pentaband, but the chip DOES support both 850 Mhz and 1700 Mhz (strange, I know). I believe it's actually quadband WCDMA which means it'll work on Wind/Mobilicity (I have the Telus version too and use it on Wind currently and Rogers prior). It won't work in Europe though, if you travel a lot because I believe they use 900 Mhz out there, which is the band this phone doesn't support.
I've attached proof that it does work on Wind with data, but I don't know how to prove I'm using the Telus model... Just trust me I guess?

AFAIK: Only TMOUS' One S is pentaband.

Check the first table here for frequencies supported on different versions: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7

Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:

Dark lord me said:
Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:
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Yeah contrary to belief, the Canadian One S is NOT the "international" version, but rather the T-Mobile version.
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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PJ40110 should be written inside the SIM cover thing. It was on mine. I did a lot of digging around to find out whether or not my phone supported AWS. I really hated being with Rogers so I switched to Wind, but I wanted to make sure my dream phone would work before I switched.

I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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rubbamade said:
I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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This is misleading information as it is more correctly quadband WCDMA. Pentaband WCDMA would include 900 Mhz as well, which the T-Mobile One S does not have.

Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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Mr.Mischief said:
Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.

ShensMobile said:
I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.
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Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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ShensMobile said:
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.

ShensMobile said:
I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.
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You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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Mr.Mischief said:
You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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I'm not sure that is exactly the phone he has/had as I was going to buy it from him until he told me it is the silver/blue version. The canadagsm site only lists black as available as far as I can tell. MBP did not say that's where he got it, somebody else posted that link inferring it is the same one. Personally, I am betting it is only a physically unbranded T-mobile US version running an unbranded ROM

I'll PM the new owner later and ask him to check the box.
Edit: PM sent.
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Whatever it is...it works on WIND
Hi Peops,
Greetings from Can-eh-da!
Thanks to a few postings I saw up in here, and a sweet pre-Christmas deal going on at Wind Mobile, I decided to take a $25 non-refundable SIM card bet on the information posted on these forums, specifically that unlocked HTC One-S phones with the PJ40110 model number *may* work on WIND because it supports AWS.
Using thread #13 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378&page=2, I found out I might have a ONe-S that works on Wind...I was right!
Hope this helps someone the way I was helped!
Tske care, eh!
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