Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
Check out my thread on getting this phone to work on WIND (similar to T-Mobile, but in Canada). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323
madhad said:
Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
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There's a ton of posts on the One X forum where people got it working using EDGE for data. Folks on this forum are trying to get the XL working for 3G data on Wind. If they do, it'll work on T-Mobile U.S. also.
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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There's a huge conversation going on about what's published and what the radio's capable of. There's a hack for the G-Note that folks are going to try and make work on the One X (assuming the h/w supports the bands). With the hack, the G-Note lost a bunch of signal strength and battery life so it's far from perfect.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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Hardware-wise it has.
If you go to HTC USA website you see that it does. The Tegra 3 based international version doesn't, but Rogers/AT&T version does. There is another thread where someone purchased the Rogers version and tried to use it on WIND (which uses the same band as tmobile usa), and got no data (phone is unlocked, but no edge no 3G). If the problem is due to the lack of WIND/tmobile 3G bands, he would have at least get EDGE data. He contacted HTC Canada and HTC verified that the phone hardware indeed support those band, and the issue has to do with Rogers implementation of the software.
The same happened with AT&T Galaxy Note. It supports tmobile 3G band, but was disabled in software. People here are able to open up those bands by flashing new radio on it.
It is still not know whether the AT&T One X has T-Mobile 3G bands disabled in software or not, and if it does, whether it can be easily re-enabled. But the hardware support is there.
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
k87 said:
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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No, it's locked to AT&T man.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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As long as you purchase an unlock code and unlock the phone then it will give you edge + voice on Tmobile.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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This sucks. I'm on Tmobile and was holding out for the AT&T One X to use on Tmobile. Didnt want the One S because of the small screen. May have to go with the Galaxy Nexus for 400.00.
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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1900 hasn't been refarmed in my area but that would be the only option for somebody to use the One X on 3g/4g.
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Yes...most definitely. Once the AT&T version is officially released, you'll likely see numerous posts on how to unlock. There are some threads already starting if you search...
Here is an unlock site the says they can unlock the ONE X (AT&T Version) phone already. It costs in the neighborhood of $15, but that is a small price to pay to carrier unlock. If you live in a TMobile area that has reassigned their HSPA+ to the same 1900MHz Band AT&T uses it should be well worth being able to grab a tmobile sim for back up data or switching over completely. From what I have read, TMobile will be moving most of their markets HSPA+ to the 1900 MHz band in the not too distant future so this could be win win. I am going to give this a shot on May 4th when my phone is supposed to show up, I will post back with my success or failure.
Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Sorry, that's a negative.
There are several variations of the Snapdragon S4. Some with LTE, some without.
In this case, the One X LTE has the S4 MSM8960 with LTE. The One S has the S4 MSM8260A, without LTE.
What exactly is WCDMA AWS band? Because on the HTC website it says the One XL has that. I thought that is both bands for tmobile 4G.
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Hey NSers.
I bought a Nexus S just about the week it came out from Best Buy, but I've decided to move on to another phone. I had thought that purchasing it from Best Buy meant that it shipped unlocked, with no specific carrier, but I just tried an AT&T SIM card in the phone, and it gets no service.
I called T-Mobile, but the woman I spoke to informed me that they couldn't request an unlock code because it's not a phone they actually support.
So I'm wondering how I can unlock it.
Right now, its bootloader is unlocked and it's rooted, if that makes any difference (I'm hoping there will be something easy I can do that doesn't involve contacting either Google or Samsung).
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
your nexus s IS unlocked as of google phones.
the problem is that the nexus s does not support (hardware) AT&T cellular bands.
there is a specific model of the nexus s (I9020A if i'm not wrong) that support those AT&T bands.. sorry.
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your nexus s IS unlocked as of google phones.
the problem is that the nexus s does not support (hardware) AT&T cellular bands.
there is a specific model of the nexus s (I9020A if i'm not wrong) that support those AT&T bands.. sorry.
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Oh, really? I thought it supported AT&T GSM bands, but not the 3G bands.
And no worries. It's an i9020T, so maybe it's unlocked but still works only with TMo. Darn.
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Oh, really? I thought it supported AT&T GSM bands, but not the 3G bands.
And no worries. It's an i9020T, so maybe it's unlocked but still works only with TMo. Darn.
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I think he meant to say it does not support at&t 3g bands. It should work on any GSM carrier, but may not work on 3g.
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OuncE718 said:
I think he meant to say it does not support at&t 3g bands. It should work on any GSM carrier, but may not work on 3g.
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Right. But if I put in an AT&T SIM, it should work with AT&T's GSM frequencies, right? I'm really not looking forward to calling Samsung tomorrow.
I should go to best buy and ask if you can swap it for a i9020A.
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I should go to best buy and ask if you can swap it for a i9020A.
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I9029A isn't sold in best buy. I'd go to AT&T and get a new sim card. Your phone should work just fine on AT&T, u just won't have 3G.
I've had a similar experience with the Canadian carriers, however if the carrier supports GSM bands it will work (like previously said) it's when the carrier only supports HSDPA (like Koodo in Canada does) then you need the specific Nexus S (i9020A in your case).
You could also try adding the APN to see if that will allow you to connect (Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names (APN)) - the details can be found on the forums / your carriers website.
Works for me.
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Right. But if I put in an AT&T SIM, it should work with AT&T's GSM frequencies, right?
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Works for me. I live in NYC, and I picked up a Nexus S at Best Buy over the Easter break as a quick temp phone till I got my Captivate fixed.
No 3g, but it certainly works on Edge. Makes calls, data works, syncs with google apps, etc.
Maybe you're just in a poor reception spot for ATT...
Thanks for the advice. Will retry. I'd wanted to confirm AT&T would work before I put it on eBay.
So the International Version has no 4G support that has been established; however, their could be a possible way to still get 4G. I have seen with the SG2 International and The SG2 Tmo if you flash the modem of the tmo one onto the international they got 4G on Tmo. I have also read that i think it was the nexus or galaxy note or something had a locked band that they unlocked.... I heard that a radio probably wont change anything but does anyone else have any ideas?
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Don't like waiting and I travel a lot.
Personally I think you should just wait you gaffe the s2 so it's not like you dying from a crappy phone and that way you would know it works properly I'm not sure about the one s but I know on my HTC sensation there is a extra antenna for the 4 g and we can't even buy a extra battery cover unless it had that antenna or we loose 4g
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I already HAVE the one s I came from the amaze for the record. Interesting thoughts.
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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So say its all over and theirs no changing it. Those of us who had no idea that it wouldn't work is their any way would could minupulate HTC or Tmo into giving us a version that will suport it. You could play the "It says hspa+ on your website"
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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So people wouldn't buy one to use it for a carrier it wasn't meant to be on? If the band is only in the T-Mobile version and people are on T-Mobile, their only choice is to buy it from T-Mobile if they want 3G.
T-Mobile probably doesn't want people buying their flagship off contract.
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The Tmobile version looks like it has the 850/1900 bands to work on ATT's network? Does it in practice?
I know one problem might be the micro sim card idk if att uses those at all. I guesse u could probably just cut a regular one
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I agree the att one x will have the same awesome krait prossecor and it might have the same internals maybe making it possible to flash one s roms with the art one x. Because the att one x and international one x won't be able to flash each others Roms
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ATT uses micro sim, that's not an issue.
Frankly I find these LTE just getting to be ridiculously big. The HTC One S is the perfect size imo.
According to the FCC document for the t-mobile version, it's supports WCDMA 850 (ATT), 1700 (T-mobile) and 1900 (ATT,T-mobile). So I should fine on ATT's network as long as I put in the correct APN right?
Also looking for clarification on this...
It probably will, but it has to be unlocked and for that to happen, we need S-Off which could very well be a few months away. Why don't you buy the international, unlocked version outright? You also get your choice of colors (red/black as well instead of just blue/grey).
Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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Lol u mean unlocking phone to use it on att requires s off? NOOO. DOESN'T NEED TO BE S OFF. Just get unlock key and done.
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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so do you know if the t-mobile version has both 850/1900 bands? or just one of them?
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
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I unlocked it through ebay. just search in ebay "htc one s unlock" its about 8USD. you pay and then you leave a message with your IMEI number
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I live in India where I can't get it
Can I try Cellunlocker.net
There it is for $10
I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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ATT uses 1900, in some markets, ATT uses the mixture of both, 850 has better penetration in urban areas (tall buildings ...)
I'm interested in the phone, but i'm going to be using it on ATT. Can somebody that has the device tell us what is the FCC ID?
Quick trip to Phone Scoop website, i can see that there are two FCC ID's associated with the phone. NM8PJ40110 passed the tests using ATT WCDMA bands (band II 1900 and band V 850) and T-Mobile bands (band IV 1700/2100). NM8PJ40100 passed only ATT bands. Both doesn't show any reference to any test on WCDMA 2100 (band I), which probably means that the phone doesn't support the international 3G band.
In short, theoretically, the T-Mobile's version of HTC One S should work on ATT 3G bands (WCDMA band II and WCDMA band V), however, the phone would not support ATT LTE.
Since the hardware is there (FCC website proves it, unless if the official T-Mobile USA version got pushed with different FCC ID that i do not know), the phone should work on ATT 3G, but nothing prevents T-Mobile to disable the ATT 3G radios in their ROM. I think that S-OFF would give opportunity to enable the ATT radios (if they are blocked)
We will see ...
Take care,
From my experience, the ATT radio is not blocked and works fine.
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Anyone know of this is real. I didn't think they made a Pentaband one s. I will probably contact them tomorrow. It's also in black.
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
I've bought from SNtraders in the passt
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
Doubt it, but if it is, I'd love to know. I'd be all in for that one.
As far as I know the HTC One S international version does not have the 1900 3G band for at&t, only the Tmobile version does(pentaband) & this is because tmobile is currently in the process of refarming their network to add the 1900 3G band which has always been the 3G frequency used by at&t in the U.S. This means if you get the tmobile branded One S it will definitely work with the at&t 3G just like the HTC Amaze 4G would also, hope this helps
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As far as I know the HTC One S international version does not have the 1900 3G band for at&t, only the Tmobile version does(pentaband) & this is because tmobile is currently in the process of refarming their network to add the 1900 3G band which has always been the 3G frequency used by at&t in the U.S. This means if you get the tmobile branded One S it will definitely work with the at&t 3G just like the HTC Amaze 4G would also, hope this helps
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that's correct. using a us tmobile htc one s on ATT right now
however, one issue I have run into is that sometimes data doesnt work. It remains "connected" constantly, but then up/down data is always cutting.. dont know if its a software or hardware problem
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Doubt it, but if it is, I'd love to know. I'd be all in for that one.
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As would I..
what speeds would the hox get on t-mobile? I'm sure my phone isn't sim unlocked, but my at&t Motorola atrix HD gets at least HSPAP on any sim card and it isn't sim unlocked either.
I'm currently using a net10 sim and it gets LTE but they throttle speed after like 5gigs or so to something under 3g (it's a bit faster than edge so can't describe it) but tmo doesn't throttle speeds as far as I know, unless I'm wrong.
There's a thread dedicated to speed tests done with T-Mobile on this phone somewhere in the general section I believe.
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what speeds would the hox get on t-mobile?
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Completely depends on your specific location. T-Mobile is adding the HSPA 1900 MHz band to their network in select markets. Your location is listed as Houston, which is on the list of those markets: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5736
So the AT&T One X (or any version of the EVITA with HSPA 1900 MHz support) should work on HSPA in your area. Although coverage may be spotty, and if you move out of the coverage area, you will drop down to EDGE speeds.
Outside the HSPA 1900 coverage areas, T-Mobile uses the AWS band for HSPA/3G, which the AT&T One X is not compatible. Some have theorized that the phone has "hidden" support for AWS (as some other phones release by AT&T at the time did, presumably in preparation for the failed AT&T/T-Mob merger). And that the support for AWS could be made to work once s-off was achieved. But this has never materialized.
Here is the thread discussing data speeds on T-Mob that timmaaa mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079059
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I'm sure my phone isn't sim unlocked, but my at&t Motorola atrix HD gets at least HSPAP on any sim card and it isn't sim unlocked either.
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I don't know what is going on with your Atrix HD (and don't follow that phone at all), but as far as I know, the AT&T version of the One X/EVITA would need to be SIM unlocked in order to work on T-Mobile. The only instance I am aware of a SIM locked AT&T One X working on "another" carrier is on Straight Talk (using the AT&T SIM option), which is just using AT&T's network.
guess I'll browse eBay for a quick/cheap unlock code, but thanks for the information.
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guess I'll browse eBay for a quick/cheap unlock code, but thanks for the information.
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I think folks on here have had good luck with cellunlocker.net (although I can't vouch for them personally).
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guess I'll browse eBay for a quick/cheap unlock code, but thanks for the information.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395697
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I have my hox on metropcs and it works as far as data, mms, calling, etc with the stock settings as all i did was take it to the store and they put the micro in, but my data signal changes between 3g, h+, and lte. Any theory as to why?
It will change based on signal strength.
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