Ok well i know that it is possible to get T-Mo's "4g" HSPA+ on this device. However, i have not found a clear answer as to when t mobiles 46 lte launches, will an unlocked at&t i727 be able to work on this t-mobile 4g lte. I am stuck between whether i should buy the t989 or an unlocked i727 and use either one on t mobile and this may affect my decison.
Thanks.
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
This thread is relevant to my interests. T-mobile LTE will be Band 4, so does that mean the i727 won't work? Or does it have that band and they just aren't advertised? ATT does have some Band 4 holdings, so it's reasonable that they would want the i727 to work on LTE in those areas too.
If you get into Service Mode (*#2263#) and look at LTE bands, it's shown there. Don't know if it means that the phone is able to work with it, but might be.
mahanddeem said:
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
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I know these arent lte speeds but after I switched from my junk Mytouch Q to this and flashed Tmobile radios, for my area this isnt bad
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If you get into Service Mode (*#2263#) and look at LTE bands, it's shown there. Don't know if it means that the phone is able to work with it, but might be.
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FYI - This only works on Touchwiz ROMs.
if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket will allow lte usage, on bands 700 and 1700, so with the correct radio (i757m modem from bell) u SHOULD be able to access it
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FYI - This only works on Touchwiz ROMs.
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It doesn't matter in this thread, since it's for reference only. If he won't be able to try it himself because he's not using TouchWiz - no biggie. But thanks for reminding me.
icenight89 said:
if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket MAY allow lte usage, depending on the lte band they use. It'll probably be 1700 AWS though, which is an lte band I don't believe the skyrocket supports, only 700.
So basically, neither. But if ur a gambling man, at least with the skyrocket u stand a chance
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I thought the reason AT&T included the 1700 AWS band was b/c they were planning on turning that spectrum into LTE if the acquisition was successful. If so, wouldn't that mean that the 1700 band on the Skyrocket would support LTE Band 4?
icenight89 said:
if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket MAY allow lte usage, depending on the lte band they use. It'll probably be 1700 AWS though, which is an lte band I don't believe the skyrocket supports, only 700.
So basically, neither. But if ur a gambling man, at least with the skyrocket u stand a chance
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according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices and this http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364 skyrocket supports 1700
vincom said:
according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices and this http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364 skyrocket supports 1700
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was under the impression 1700 for skyrocket was only for hspa, read it somewhere, I stand corrected
Just saw this very recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119406
If I'm not mistaken, the Note has the exact same radio setup as the Skyrocket (AWS and 700Mhz LTE). So, it's looking promising for our phones to work on LTE, too.
Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone got the unlocked i727 to successfully lock onto the T-mobile LTE network. I believe I read somewhere that someone had done it successfully but wanted to confirm since T-mobile has refarmed most areas by this time.
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Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone got the unlocked i727 to successfully lock onto the T-mobile LTE network. I believe I read somewhere that someone had done it successfully but wanted to confirm since T-mobile has refarmed most areas by this time.
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Did you search first? There is an active discussion going on right now in this same forum.
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Here's my skyrocket on T-Mobile LTE
mahanddeem said:
Here's my skyrocket on T-Mobile LTE
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Which Radio/Rom are you using?
Stock UCMC1 JB deodexed
I757m JB radio
mahanddeem said:
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
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Not true. I did it ... get 12 mpbs DL regularly on 4G. You'll need to try different radios but it's very possible.
Aimless Rambler said:
Not true. I did it ... get 12 mpbs DL regularly on 4G. You'll need to try different radios but it's very possible.
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Yes..I'm sorry...I didn't know that at the time I replied..They have LTE and ironically we skyrocket owners can access it and the T-Mobile s2 owners are left being lol...
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Does anyone know if the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked to work on AT&T 3G like the Vibrant was???
Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
stevm said:
Once unlocked works on all NA gsm carriers
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On AT&T's 3G band!?
stevm said:
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I doubt it, once unlocked it will work on all GSM carriers is true, but it is specifically built for T-Mobile frequency, AT&T has different frequency.
Similar to the situation we have in canada, Rogers Fido Bell Telus work on similar frequencies but Wind and Mobilicity work differently.
As Galaxy S 4G is meant for T-mobile, it will work 2g only with AT&T and for that sake with 4 major canadian providers too...
I would suggest to check what phones arw im at&t and check their specs and bands. Once you do that you will know wether it will work in at&t or not.
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Does anyone know if the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked to work on AT&T 3G like the Vibrant was???
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Yes, I can confirm that it does indeed have UTMS band 1900, just like the Vibrant. I'm using it right now on AT&T and I do get 3G...now if only I could figure out how to enable 4G.
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Yes, I can confirm that it does indeed have UTMS band 1900, just like the Vibrant. I'm using it right now on AT&T and I do get 3G...now if only I could figure out how to enable 4G.
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I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
thats becuase at&t dosnt have 4g yeat eventhough they have 4g phones
Why not just get the vibrant instead of all it works on is 3g. It has much much more roms than this phone ever will especially with the release of the g2x and galaxy s2.
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joedeveloper said:
I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
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Why wouldn't 4G work? It's on the same bands, and if you have all the APN info, shouldn't it work?
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Why wouldn't 4G work? It's on the same bands, and if you have all the APN info, shouldn't it work?
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Because AT&T hasn't made any tower upgrades to increase speed.
Technically, you are on 4G, but receive 3G speeds.
With T-Mo, you WILL get 4G speeds (10mbps+), because they have the necessary tower upgrades to make that possible.
joedeveloper said:
I can confirm that it works on AT&T 3G as well. You in fact get faster 3G speeds in some areas because AT&T has some different coverage than tmobile.
I unlocked the SGS4G for my Father In Law who is on AT&T, and it immediately connected to AT&T 3G. 4mbps/3mbps
It won't work on 4G though.
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Anyone know where I can find a detailed (and updated) map showing which frequency is being used in specific areas? I'm [] this close to switch to AT&T and wouldn't mind using this until the iPhone refresh. But if I'm in 850MHZ area, I'll either trade it or sell it, as I originally intended to do.
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Anyone know where I can find a detailed (and updated) map showing which frequency is being used in specific areas? I'm [] this close to switch to AT&T and wouldn't mind using this until the iPhone refresh. But if I'm in 850MHZ area, I'll either trade it or sell it, as I originally intended to do.
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I'd skip out on switching to AT&T- they're terrible.
The 3G upload speeds are a joke, and coverage (at least in my area) is terrible. And don't even get me started on their Tech Support department.
As for the map though, I don't know of any public ones available.
Longcat14 said:
Because AT&T hasn't made any tower upgrades to increase speed.
Technically, you are on 4G, but receive 3G speeds.
With T-Mo, you WILL get 4G speeds (10mbps+), because they have the necessary tower upgrades to make that possible.
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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With the upload thing, I may be wrong, but it's probably because they don't have HSUPA on.
And on the download thing with your iPhone, remember, your iPhone can take advantage of both 850MHz and 1900MHz, the GS4G can only take advantage of 1900MHz, so there will most likely be some variation in speeds.
Ahh, I never even knew that it was only 1900mhz compatible on 3G D:
So, does that in turn mean that my phone will not work on AT&T's "4G"? Because that's the main point of me getting this phone over the Nexus S.
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What kind of upload speeds should you be getting then?
I'm getting less than 50kbps upload....
(In AT&T Full 3G Coverage Area)
My download is always around 2MBPS, which is strange, because my iPhone 4 got around 4MBPS in the same location...
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Here in Vegas and surrounding henderson areas my Father in law was getting 4.5mpbs down and 2 up so it's fairly consistent but we have good ATT coverage here as well as Tmobile (which I'm on 4G).
joedeveloper said:
Here in Vegas and surrounding henderson areas my Father in law was getting 4.5mpbs down and 2 up so it's fairly consistent but we have good ATT coverage here as well as Tmobile (which I'm on 4G).
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I'd love to get speeds like that, but I'm in NY.
Worst.Network.Congestion.Ever
oooh and quick question, do you have a thread which has instructions to remove the "Pink" boot or shutdown screens?
Thankyou
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I'd love to get speeds like that, but I'm in NY.
Worst.Network.Congestion.Ever
oooh and quick question, do you have a thread which has instructions to remove the "Pink" boot or shutdown screens?
Thankyou
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Pretty straight forward if you are used to ADB or any other file managing software.
To disable shutdown just rename
/system/media/video/shutdown
to be like /system/media/video/shutdownbackup
For the startup screen look here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...t-software-not-suck/page__p__36615#entry36615
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Pretty straight forward if you are used to ADB or any other file managing software.
To disable shutdown just rename
/system/media/video/shutdown
to be like /system/media/video/shutdownbackup
For the startup screen look here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...t-software-not-suck/page__p__36615#entry36615
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Perfect...Took some time to get it working (this is my first time using ADB), but looks great.
Thank you!
I was stalking the T-Mo SGSII forums when I saw this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095
According to that, their phone has an LTE radio... which means even the radios between our phones are the same..
I did some research, and I learned that our Skyrocket is a pentaband phone.
HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100.
And having 6 LTE bands....
This is probably the best radio made by Qualcomm... ever.
But I thought the Exynos chip could not support LTE? Only the Snapdragon..
Both phones have snapdragon processors.
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Wait.. whaaa? This is the first I've heard of this, but doing a check on phonearena, it looks like it has supports the 1700 band. Has anyone tried this phone on T-Mo?
Lately, I've been thinking of selling the phone and going T-Mo b/c their plans are so cheap.
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Wait.. whaaa? This is the first I've heard of this, but doing a check on phonearena, it looks like it has supports the 1700 band. Has anyone tried this phone on T-Mo?
Lately, I've been thinking of selling the phone and going T-Mo b/c their plans are so cheap.
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This is the info I got from phonearena. Most gsm bands are the same from the Tmobile sgs2 and the a&t skyrocket.does this mean if I unlocked my skyrocket I could use t mobile pre paid internet and voice plans.I currently have a AT&T 50$ unlimited pay as you go, but can't get Web (internet because it's a smartphone) has anyone tried using there skyrocket on Tmobile hspa+ network?
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Yes, our T-Mobile Galaxy S II people are trying to see if we can activate the LTE radio on our device by flashing your modem.
If you are interested you can try flashing our modem to see if your phone can use AWS (1700) on T-Mobile / Mobilicity / Wind.
Our modem is here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11883-odin-tmo-sgsii-modem-collection-team-kang12142011/
Note that after flashing our modem your phone will lose LTE. After you are done testing you can flash back your own modem which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384865
513263337 said:
Yes, our T-Mobile Galaxy S II people are trying to see if we can activate the LTE radio on our device by flashing your modem.
If you are interested you can try flashing our modem to see if your phone can use AWS (1700) on T-Mobile / Mobilicity / Wind.
Our modem is here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11883-odin-tmo-sgsii-modem-collection-team-kang12142011/
Note that after flashing our modem your phone will lose LTE. After you are done testing you can flash back your own modem which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384865
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My skyrocket is locked to AT&T so I cant test. :/
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Someone on the original thread was able to flash a T-Mobile radio and get Wind 3g signal (which is AWS) so looks like the radios are the same... anyone else want to try flashing a T-Mobile radio to see if T-Mobile 3g/4g (idk what they call it ) or Wind Home zone/Mobilicity 3G (non-roaming) works?
I've been following both threads and it sounds like Telus/TMobile radios does work on our LTE device? I'm travelling to Orlando later this month and would love to use their 3g data prepaid plan instead of 2g data.
It sounds like all I have to do is flash the Telus radio before I leave and I should be able to use Tmobile's 3g network? Then when I get back, flash it back to the Rogers radio so I get LTE back? Does that sound right? Thanks!
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I've been following both threads and it sounds like Telus/TMobile radios does work on our LTE device? I'm travelling to Orlando later this month and would love to use their 3g data prepaid plan instead of 2g data.
It sounds like all I have to do is flash the Telus radio before I leave and I should be able to use Tmobile's 3g network? Then when I get back, flash it back to the Rogers radio so I get LTE back? Does that sound right? Thanks!
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Sounds about right.
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Im actually glad members of the SR forum are aware of what we are trying to do over at the tgs2 forum. I have an unlocked tmg2 and been looking for someone in chicago with att lte to test it out and i was going to start a nee thread. But posted on here instead
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If anyone in Vancouver has a telus Galaxy s2 x wants to try with my Rogers LTE sim, send me a pm
What radio do I need to flash for t-mobile hspa?
TPC has radio thread in dev forum and da_g has posted t989 radio plus mr.x has radio thread over at t989 dev forum so you can install them after flashing rom.
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What radio do I need to flash for t-mobile hspa?
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It is indeed amazing. Flashed juggernaught and the T-Mobile radio. Getting 4g with no issues.
Plus it even thinks my phone is the T-Mobile version. Wifi calling might even be supported!
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I've been doing some research... the MDM9200 (modem in the Skyrocket) has LTE (Band 17 and Band 4, I also found a device with Band 13 but not sure if it's included in the SkyRocket) and it has HSPA+ Release 8, which means DC-HSPA. This means the by flashing a Telus/T-Mobile radio, you could theoretically get the same speeds that the SGH-T989(D) gets. I also found an MDM9200 device that states it has HSPA+ 850/900/1700/1900/2100 so that means that this modem can handle a LOT of bands, it just depends on which radio you flash.
Alright so I got my Skyrocket and flashed the latest T-Mobile Modem. AWS HSPA+ works perfectly fine, voice quality is actually much better than it was on my Hercules. I restored my setup from my Hercules and just changed the TDJ kernel to Da_G (waiting for them to make a kernel for the Skyrocket).
So that settles that once and for all. This phone has HSPA+ 850/1700/1900/2100 (and it's DC-HSPA so the max 42mbps is enabled if you flash a T-Mobile/Telus radio). It also has LTE 1700/700 with the 700 being band 17. I'm really hoping Wind gets the lower B or C block so I won't have to switch phones if/when they deploy LTE.
The Skyrocket has everything the Hercules has, with just MDM9200 over the MDM8200 in the Hercules. If you google online, the MDM9200 is like the MDM8200 just with LTE on top.
Once again, this phone is in fact amazing lol
Guess I should change my username if i could lol "SGS2LTE"
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Alright so I got my Skyrocket and flashed the latest T-Mobile Modem. AWS HSPA+ works perfectly fine, voice quality is actually much better than it was on my Hercules. I restored my setup from my Hercules and just changed the TDJ kernel to Da_G (waiting for them to make a kernel for the Skyrocket).
So that settles that once and for all. This phone has HSPA+ 850/1700/1900/2100 (and it's DC-HSPA so the max 42mbps is enabled if you flash a T-Mobile/Telus radio). It also has LTE 1700/700 with the 700 being band 17. I'm really hoping Wind gets the lower B or C block so I won't have to switch phones if/when they deploy LTE.
The Skyrocket has everything the Hercules has, with just MDM9200 over the MDM8200 in the Hercules. If you google online, the MDM9200 is like the MDM8200 just with LTE on top.
Once again, this phone is in fact amazing lol
Guess I should change my username if i could lol "SGS2LTE"
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glad to hear it worked out man, lot of people shy away from the skyrocket because they think it won't work!
I do not know if this is allowed and if it is not sorry but it is not a best of thread. I have been having trouble getting good speeds since the switch and have tried numerous combinations but get crappy speeds like .11 mbs down and .12 up
I was wondering what works for you and what speeds are you getting.
Like I said this is by no means a best of thread I just thought this would help others like me who are having trouble getting good speeds on our phones.
Any downloads to the radios not listed in the radios thread would be appreciated.
And if this thread is off limits I am sorry. Just thought I would help us newbies out!!!!!!
Thank you
Jeff
catchjeff said:
I do not know if this is allowed and if it is not sorry but it is not a best of thread. I have been having trouble getting good speeds since the switch and have tried numerous combinations but get crappy speeds like .11 mbs down and .12 up
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What gives me a little pause here is that those settings and radio combinations will yield different results based on where you are located. Do you know anyone in your area with an HSPA+ phone who can run speed tests to compare your speeds against? It could just be that you're in an area with bad backhaul.
two important bits of info are missing what network type is your phone connected with (g e 3g h h+), and what radio are you using?
lart2150 said:
two important bits of info are missing what network type is your phone connected with (g e 3g h h+), and what radio are you using?
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Radios I have used:
Blaze_4G_LB7_ICS
ULCD2
I727-UCMC-NO-CSC-NO-RIL
UCLK4-NO-RIL
UCLL3-NO-RIL
SGH-T989_UVMC6
SGH-T989D_TLMC4
TMO-SGH-T879-UVLG3
TMO_SGH-T909-UVLH1
I AM USING cm10 STABLE
NETWORK TYPE IS hsdpa:8
Hope that helps
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A good first step is to find some friend with a good t mobile hasp+ phone (like galaxy s2 T-Mobile or galaxy nexus for instance) ...See what speeds they're getting on T-Mobile data...If they're not getting good speeds on their phones, you'll never get good speeds obviously...Remember you're using a phone which was made to be used with AT&T....And from my observation most of those who use the SR with T-Mobile they get similar issues like the ones you're describing , t-mobile switched to the 1900mhz spectrum in some areas that would probably help a little, but obviously that's not something that you can do anything about...
If you really need tmobile service, it's best to trade your SR with a tmobile galaxy s2 , at least that I would do if I was in your situation,I don't like buggy phones or services...
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
It's a long thread but covers this issue pretty well. As far as I can tell there is no hardware-based reason a Skyrocket can't work on Tmobile as well as a dedicated tmobile S2.
I have been using a skyrocket on tmobile for a few months. I couldn't get better than 2G speed until I flashed a new radio and twiddled the apn settings. I get pretty consistent 4G now.
This is what I get using T769UVLH5 radio from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895400
Be sure to thank him:good:
I know you're getting different answers here but if you took an at & t skyrocket it means you have bands 850/1900Mhz for 3g ( don't even think about 4g lte at this point) while tmobl works on 900/1700/2100 3g bands. This means your phone is physically not capable of locking on those bands because it doesn't have them. All it's probably doing is sticking to the old EDGE network since it is a quad band edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
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I do not believe that is the case. The skyrocket radio software limits the available bands. Loading a tmobile radio enables the required frequencies.
i727 freq's:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Frequecy Source: GSMARENA
i727 freq's:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Thank you vinocm
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From what I've gathered the skyrocket has the same radios as the Hercules, it just has the added lte hardware. I am on 4.2.2 slim using the le1 radio. Still get random no signal dropouts but not as bad as the others. Think my ril and csc files are wrong so it looks like I have to flash a stock ROM to get them back. Anyone using a stock Hercules ROM?
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Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
It's a long thread but covers this issue pretty well. As far as I can tell there is no hardware-based reason a Skyrocket can't work on Tmobile as well as a dedicated tmobile S2.
I have been using a skyrocket on tmobile for a few months. I couldn't get better than 2G speed until I flashed a new radio and twiddled the apn settings. I get pretty consistent 4G now.
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I don't think our channel can do dual channel h+ where the T989 can.
for the others our phone has a penta-band radio it is physically cappable of talking to t-mobile on it's 3g,h,h+ networks just not with the att or rogers radios.
Okay, so heres the deal. I currently have a Skyrocket running CM 10.1 with the UVMC6 radio on Net10 T-Mobile SIM. I my home town of West Bend, WI I get H+ and decent speeds of about 6Mbps down. When I'm in Milwaukee, WI I occasionally get "DC" (Dual Carrier?) with some pretty impressive downspeeds of 20Mbps. I have LTE enabled on my phone but I have never gotten a 4G or LTE indication when in Milwaukee. Which I believe is a T-Mobile LTE area. So my question is if I switch to AT&T SIM on Net10, will I get 4G LTE speeds? It is not specifically indicated on Net10's site that I will, but they sell LTE phones.
Thanks!
It all depends on what net 10 (or whatever) are providing...I doubt those MVNO networks offer LTE from the patent networks at this moment, though I might be mistaken...That 20 mbps you get is HSPA+(DC is HSPA+21 x 2 = HSPA+42)...They sell LTE phones doesn't mean anything, most modern phones nowadays are LTE phones....
However, if you join T-Mobile(T-Mobile proper that is ) and in an area which is one of the official LTE launch cities, you can connect to it using the stock SR radio...
To know the type of network you're connected to, go to settings/About device(or phone)/Status
saleenman95 said:
Okay, so heres the deal. I currently have a Skyrocket running CM 10.1 with the UVMC6 radio on Net10 T-Mobile SIM. I my home town of West Bend, WI I get H+ and decent speeds of about 6Mbps down. When I'm in Milwaukee, WI I occasionally get "DC" (Dual Carrier?) with some pretty impressive downspeeds of 20Mbps. I have LTE enabled on my phone but I have never gotten a 4G or LTE indication when in Milwaukee. Which I believe is a T-Mobile LTE area. So my question is if I switch to AT&T SIM on Net10, will I get 4G LTE speeds? It is not specifically indicated on Net10's site that I will, but they sell LTE phones.
Thanks!
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Here's your answer after a google search for "net 10 lte".
http://prepaidcellforum.com/threads/does-net10-have-4g-lte-coverage.235/
lingowistico said:
Here's your answer after a google search for "net 10 lte".
http://prepaidcellforum.com/threads/does-net10-have-4g-lte-coverage.235/
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I saw that too, I just wanted more than one opinion, and quite frankly I trust the people on this site more than any other.
mahanddeem said:
It all depends on what net 10 (or whatever) are providing...I doubt those MVNO networks offer LTE from the patent networks at this moment, though I might be mistaken...That 20 mbps you get is HSPA+(DC is HSPA+21 x 2 = HSPA+42)...They sell LTE phones doesn't mean anything, most modern phones nowadays are LTE phones....
However, if you join T-Mobile(T-Mobile proper that is ) and in an area which is one of the official LTE launch cities, you can connect to it using the stock SR radio...
To know the type of network you're connected to, go to settings/About device(or phone)/Status
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Thanks! I was wondering how I could be getting speeds that fast without LTE. Also, is HSPA+ is rated for 42Mbps then how fast is LTE rated for and is the 20Mbps down that I am getting relatively high for cellular speeds these days?
It depends on tons of factors...HSPA+ at 20mbps is faster than the LTE I get....The only real plus to the LTE is the excellent low ping latency...
saleenman95 said:
I saw that too, I just wanted more than one opinion, and quite frankly I trust the people on this site more than any other.
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You shouldn't trust any people or site more than what your carrier tells you. If I were you I would've just called / emailed net ten and asked them directly :good:
lingowistico said:
You shouldn't trust any people or site more than what your carrier tells you. If I were you I would've just called / emailed net ten and asked them directly :good:
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hahahaha....if you know how to turn your phone on by yourself than you know more than the customer service people at net10/straight talk. They only know how to read off their script cards. They have tried telling me that my phone is incapable of mms when i was having problems with the stock apn they provided. I wouldnt trust any infomation they tell you.
Those MVNO networks and their customer rep suck big time to be helpful at all....
I use my Skyrocket on Net10 AT&T SIM and the best I have ever gotten is HSPA+ 21.6 even in an LTE area... Net10 SIMs don't allow connecting to LTE networks.
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acejavelin said:
I use my Skyrocket on Net10 AT&T SIM and the best I have ever gotten is HSPA+ 21.6 even in an LTE area... Net10 SIMs don't allow connecting to LTE networks.
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More like Net Ten doesn't offer LTE.
ATT LTE on NET10!
lingowistico said:
More like Net Ten doesn't offer LTE.
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They do now as of September 2013...I believe you have to get a new simm for $5 from their website to enable ATT LTE
Straight talk is now offering att lte as well.just ordered my new sim for that.will see how it goes.
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Well I got my SIM in the mail yesterday and did the transfer. Checked all the APN settings, but I don't have LTE. Yet my friend standing right next to me with an S4 on att is getting LTE. Hmmm.
saleenman95 said:
Well I got my SIM in the mail yesterday and did the transfer. Checked all the APN settings, but I don't have LTE. Yet my friend standing right next to me with an S4 on att is getting LTE. Hmmm.
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If the frequencies are the same as Rogers / AT&T then there's no reason for you to not have it. Try doing more troubleshooting.
lingowistico said:
If the frequencies are the same as Rogers / AT&T then there's no reason for you to not have it. Try doing more troubleshooting.
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That's what I figured, I mean it's an ATT phone after-all so if should work with their LTE. But after some troubleshooting I discovered that my phone will not enable LTE for whatever reason. I will go into the settings menu and select GSM/WCDMA/LTE and it just auto switches back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I am currently running CM 10.1.3 RC2 with UCMC1 radio, so I will try re-flashing that radio to see if it helps, but I don't know what else would cause this.
saleenman95 said:
That's what I figured, I mean it's an ATT phone after-all so if should work with their LTE. But after some troubleshooting I discovered that my phone will not enable LTE for whatever reason. I will go into the settings menu and select GSM/WCDMA/LTE and it just auto switches back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I am currently running CM 10.1.3 RC2 with UCMC1 radio, so I will try re-flashing that radio to see if it helps, but I don't know what else would cause this.
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Try Rogers RUXUMA7 radio, I think that the UCMC1 radio has some kind of lock which prevents you from switching modes.
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Try Rogers RUXUMA7 radio, I think that the UCMC1 radio has some kind of lock which prevents you from switching modes.
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Well I don't know what happened, but it just out of the blue started showing 4G and LTE. So now it works and I'm getting 25Mbps down!
Rogers radio is working better at keeping lte enabled for me. I am on an older net10 sim and after calling customer service they updated my account and its working although my lte ping times are very similar to hspa... I'm on slim 4.3 build 1
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saleenman95 said:
That's what I figured, I mean it's an ATT phone after-all so if should work with their LTE. But after some troubleshooting I discovered that my phone will not enable LTE for whatever reason. I will go into the settings menu and select GSM/WCDMA/LTE and it just auto switches back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I am currently running CM 10.1.3 RC2 with UCMC1 radio, so I will try re-flashing that radio to see if it helps, but I don't know what else would cause this.
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I have the exact same problem. 20 minutes on the phone with Net10 today and they said I would have to contact the manufacture(Samsung) to get LTE. Made no sense.
Go to network operator, scan and pick att from the list. Then try changing the mode to lte/gsm/wcdma and it should stick. Was happening to me too but this fixed it
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Hi there,
I just got my verizon htc one m8 but I was wondering will this phone works with at&t sim card? Can I receive AT&T 4G LTE signals?
Any helps are welcomed.
Thanks in advance.
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
p2kmafia said:
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
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Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
shojus said:
Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
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sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
denpad2010 said:
sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
zacwilliam said:
As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
shojus said:
HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
zacwilliam said:
Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
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All in where ya live I guess and which provider you have. Sometimes my HSPA+ is quicker than my T-Mobile Lte...
I'm thinking about using an upgrade on a flip phone I have on Verizon to get this phone.
How hard would it be to get it to work on Straight Talk and since they use AT&T's network, would I be able to get HSPA+ too?
Thanks in advance!
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hspa and hspa+
hspa is 3g 850mhz 1.5mbps tops and hspa+ is "4g" 1900mhz 5-20mpbs tops which is really like a 3.9g theres a story behind this but im only answering the question which is which so pretty much this device is ready for either bands just check who's got those bands and you are ready to go ohh by the way no LTE if it isnt with verizon peace im out im batmaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Because Verizon’s 4G LTE devices use SIM cards, that means many of them (the global-ready ones, anyway) are compatible with the regular 3G/2G GSM bands used everywhere else in the world (no LTE, however). When traveling, simply pop in a prepaid SIM card, configure the APN settings with the network you’ll be using the phone on, and boom. You’re up and running on 3G. Same goes for AT&T in the US (again, no LTE because of incompatible bands).
It does get AT&T LTE, I have a GoPhone account with AT&T and get LTE with my M8. Only in some areas, get about 70% hspa, and LTE the rest, just depends on your location and the AT&T LTE bands used in your area, but the M8 does get LTE