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[Q] Anyone with TMOB Sensation UNLOCKED, does it show any 3G using AT&T SIM?

I am pretty sure it will only be 2G but just wanted to check...

ekerbuddyeker said:
I am pretty sure it will only be 2G but just wanted to check...
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they will NEVER release a T-Mobile branded phone that will work on both 3G networks before the merger is complete. There is a HTC Sensation that will be released in Canada that will have the same bands as AT&T so you might want to check that one.

nccu_eagles said:
they will NEVER release a T-Mobile branded phone that will work on both 3G networks before the merger is complete. There is a HTC Sensation that will be released in Canada that will have the same bands as AT&T so you might want to check that one.
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Well the Samsung Vibrant works on AT&T 3G...

aNYthing24 said:
Well the Samsung Vibrant works on AT&T 3G...
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vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g

nccu_eagles said:
vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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Well i have 3g speeds on Att with my vibrant ... Guess the speed test are lying to me
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If you are in an area that supports AT&T's 1900MHz frequency for 3G, you may me able to get 3G speeds on AT&T with an unlocked Sensation 4G. At least according to the box the phone supports the 1900MHz frequency. No one has reported using an unlocked Sensation 4G on AT&T's network yet, as far as I know.

Yes it
nccu_eagles said:
vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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The vibrant definitely gets 3g on at&t. I have an unlocked vibrant in loui
sville and it almost never goes to edge. Google it and see the bands for the vibrant. Its a well known fact.

How to utilize 3G bands and not 4G....

Hey guys!
Is there a way we can disable the 4G connection and only use 3G? Any help that you guys can as provide will be greatly appreciated!

There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G

Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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4G LTE = LTE (our phone doesn't support it)
4G = 3G + extra stuff to be better... but still techically 4G as it's AT&T's 4th generation of technology
3G = 3G
But I don't think that there's a way you can disable "4G" and only use 3G... you can disable 3G/4G and only use 2G though.

ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.

matt99017d said:
my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
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Well it's both really .
But our phone is about as fast as you can get on AT&T's network without using LTE. The OG Atrix also was "4G" but it was only 14.x mb/sec while our A2's radio supports up to 21.x mb/sec (or something around there). The iPhone X's only support 3G.

extide said:
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.

cowenby said:
Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
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LTE has higher bandwidth, and is less populated. HSPA+ can go up to 21mbit, yes, (which is less than LTE) BUT most AT&T HSPA+ deployments are 7mbit or 14mbit.
HSPA+ users typically see ~4-5mbit or so, maybe up to 7mbit on a 14.4mbit cell, but LTE users typically can see 9-11mbit+.
The best speedtest I have ever gotten on my phone was in the 5mbit range. SLC only has 7mbit HSPA+ from what I can tell, and since AT&T is going to LTE, it appears they wont be upgrading the HSPA+ network any more.

you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.

mtnlion said:
you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.

Yeah, "4G" is actually HSPA+, which AT&T actually was going to call 3G+. The 4G crap came around because T-Mobile marketed it that way and if AT&T stuck with 3G+ they took the risk of people thinking T-Mobile was faster and losing customers. LTE was what they planned to call 4G.

extide said:
Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
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Yeah, i'm in Orlando and normally getting 2-4 mbps...
I visited Boston a few Weeks ago and was getting 13!!!!!
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 2 with AT&T 4G

Their hspa+ is like 3.5 g its def better then reg 3g
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I feel as if their labeling of 4g was a bit deceiving as well but its understandable if it was meant to keep up with TMobile because of all the confusion between 4g and 4g lte.
The good news is that I don't believe our 4g is as battery-consuming as 4g lte, its probably about the same as regular 3g.
If you're wanting to limit it to 2g though there is a way to do it even though the menu is left out from our 'Settings'. Use anycut to get to network settings directly and choose GSM only.

At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.

Ajfink said:
At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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kwiggington said:
i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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That's pretty good. Max I've seen is 11mbit down.
I didn't believe it at first so I reran the speedtest a couple times to make sure.

Mine has topped out around 9Mbps, sadly.
It's not throughput that's bad on a decent 3G network, a lot of time's it's the latency. Meh. Whatever. Long live LTE.

I ran just ran the speedtest.net app and I have 7.20 mbps down and 1.13 up here in Atlanta. Thats even better than basic dsl albiet cable beats it easily....

T-mobile 4G LTE on Unlocked i727 when available?

Ok well i know that it is possible to get T-Mo's "4g" HSPA+ on this device. However, i have not found a clear answer as to when t mobiles 46 lte launches, will an unlocked at&t i727 be able to work on this t-mobile 4g lte. I am stuck between whether i should buy the t989 or an unlocked i727 and use either one on t mobile and this may affect my decison.
Thanks.

I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........

This thread is relevant to my interests. T-mobile LTE will be Band 4, so does that mean the i727 won't work? Or does it have that band and they just aren't advertised? ATT does have some Band 4 holdings, so it's reasonable that they would want the i727 to work on LTE in those areas too.

If you get into Service Mode (*#2263#) and look at LTE bands, it's shown there. Don't know if it means that the phone is able to work with it, but might be.

mahanddeem said:
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
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I know these arent lte speeds but after I switched from my junk Mytouch Q to this and flashed Tmobile radios, for my area this isnt bad

Jack_R1 said:
If you get into Service Mode (*#2263#) and look at LTE bands, it's shown there. Don't know if it means that the phone is able to work with it, but might be.
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FYI - This only works on Touchwiz ROMs.

if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket will allow lte usage, on bands 700 and 1700, so with the correct radio (i757m modem from bell) u SHOULD be able to access it
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jssingh said:
FYI - This only works on Touchwiz ROMs.
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It doesn't matter in this thread, since it's for reference only. If he won't be able to try it himself because he's not using TouchWiz - no biggie. But thanks for reminding me.

icenight89 said:
if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket MAY allow lte usage, depending on the lte band they use. It'll probably be 1700 AWS though, which is an lte band I don't believe the skyrocket supports, only 700.
So basically, neither. But if ur a gambling man, at least with the skyrocket u stand a chance
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I thought the reason AT&T included the 1700 AWS band was b/c they were planning on turning that spectrum into LTE if the acquisition was successful. If so, wouldn't that mean that the 1700 band on the Skyrocket would support LTE Band 4?

icenight89 said:
if and when tmobile launches lte a t989 won't be able to use it anyway, no lte radio, the fastest that phone will ever achieve is h+ (fake 4g) speeds.
an unlocked skyrocket MAY allow lte usage, depending on the lte band they use. It'll probably be 1700 AWS though, which is an lte band I don't believe the skyrocket supports, only 700.
So basically, neither. But if ur a gambling man, at least with the skyrocket u stand a chance
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according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices and this http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364 skyrocket supports 1700

vincom said:
according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices and this http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364 skyrocket supports 1700
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was under the impression 1700 for skyrocket was only for hspa, read it somewhere, I stand corrected

Just saw this very recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119406
If I'm not mistaken, the Note has the exact same radio setup as the Skyrocket (AWS and 700Mhz LTE). So, it's looking promising for our phones to work on LTE, too.

Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone got the unlocked i727 to successfully lock onto the T-mobile LTE network. I believe I read somewhere that someone had done it successfully but wanted to confirm since T-mobile has refarmed most areas by this time.

ne0tekk1 said:
Just wanted to bump this to see if anyone got the unlocked i727 to successfully lock onto the T-mobile LTE network. I believe I read somewhere that someone had done it successfully but wanted to confirm since T-mobile has refarmed most areas by this time.
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Did you search first? There is an active discussion going on right now in this same forum.
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Here's my skyrocket on T-Mobile LTE

mahanddeem said:
Here's my skyrocket on T-Mobile LTE
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Which Radio/Rom are you using?

Stock UCMC1 JB deodexed
I757m JB radio

mahanddeem said:
I never heard before about "T Mobile LTE !!!" ... T mobile is using HSPA 42 in its best markets ... If you're in a good coverage area from T mobile or you only want to use it , I would say just buy the T mobile S2 and be done with it ... At&t SR even if unlocked and T mobile radio installed in it would not have the full speed for T mobile or aka 4G (may get 3 or 4 mbps DL max) ........
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Not true. I did it ... get 12 mpbs DL regularly on 4G. You'll need to try different radios but it's very possible.

Aimless Rambler said:
Not true. I did it ... get 12 mpbs DL regularly on 4G. You'll need to try different radios but it's very possible.
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Yes..I'm sorry...I didn't know that at the time I replied..They have LTE and ironically we skyrocket owners can access it and the T-Mobile s2 owners are left being lol...

3g on ATT with Galaxy Relay?

So, my phone is rooted and unlocked.I pop in my sim card, put in access point info that was in my old phone that got 3g (desire z/g2) and I only get edge. Am I missing a step? Did Tmobile block att bands for 3g use in the USA?

I figured it out. Network mode was set to GSM. When it was switched to GSM/WCDMA 4g came in great. Not sure why that would be, as ATT uses GSM only, but there you go for anyone that's searching. :good:

gbmannc said:
I figured it out. Network mode was set to GSM. When it was switched to GSM/WCDMA 4g came in great. Not sure why that would be, as ATT uses GSM only, but there you go for anyone that's searching. :good:
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Do you mean 3G came in when you switched to GSM/WCDMA? Its my understanding this phone, despite its name, can't actually get 4G but rather a somewhat faster version of 3G when 4G is switched on (online it seems to have the unofficial title of 3.5G).

As i understand it what the phone companies call 4g is not quite actually 4g. Its 2 channels of 3g which gives a net speed in the 4g range. But 4g lte is actually a 4g connection, which the relay doesn't have.

croogrog said:
As i understand it what the phone companies call 4g is not quite actually 4g. Its 2 channels of 3g which gives a net speed in the 4g range. But 4g lte is actually a 4g connection, which the relay doesn't have.
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Meaning the Relay 4G won't be able to access AT&T's 4G connection.
I'm more concerned with it being able to access AT&T's 3G connection. There isn't enough 4G LTE coverage for me to really be concerned with a phone that can't access it. In 2 years times, YEAH, but for now, no, I just want decent 3G.

EpicMikeNC said:
Meaning the Relay 4G won't be able to access AT&T's 4G connection.
I'm more concerned with it being able to access AT&T's 3G connection. There isn't enough 4G LTE coverage for me to really be concerned with a phone that can't access it. In 2 years times, YEAH, but for now, no, I just want decent 3G.
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It shouldn't have a problem, as long as it's unlocked and you've set up your APN properly. I've moved my T-Mobile service to an LTE-capable LG Optimus F3, and put an H2O Wireless SIM into the Relay (H2O is an MVNO that uses AT&T's network). AT&T's HSPA+ works fine on my Relay.
The labeling of HSPA+ as "4G" was pure marketing BS; T-Mobile started with that, and AT&T followed suit. I suppose that dual-carrier HSPA+ reaches into 4G territory from a speed standpoint, but I've never seen DC-HSPA+ outside of T-Mobile's network.

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It shouldn't have a problem, as long as it's unlocked and you've set up your APN properly. I've moved my T-Mobile service to an LTE-capable LG Optimus F3, and put an H2O Wireless SIM into the Relay (H2O is an MVNO that uses AT&T's network). AT&T's HSPA+ works fine on my Relay.
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I've seen H20 at Best Buy, for some reason I thought it was an MVNO of T-Mobile. I was going to go with the AT&T GoPhone.
The labeling of HSPA+ as "4G" was pure marketing BS; T-Mobile started with that, and AT&T followed suit. I suppose that dual-carrier HSPA+ reaches into 4G territory from a speed standpoint, but I've never seen DC-HSPA+ outside of T-Mobile's network.
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I've read about T-Mobile's marketing "trick" but I didn't realize AT&T did something similar.
Well like I said, once I get this phone I should be fine for a good 2 years just using 3G and data. That should give the market time to catch up in the 4G department, by which time I'll be ready to move on to another phone anyway. Thanks for the info. :good:

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I've seen H20 at Best Buy, for some reason I thought it was an MVNO of T-Mobile. I was going to go with the AT&T GoPhone.
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Yes, "H+" (aka 42Mbps 3G) works fine on the Relay with AT&T Go Phone. It's what my wife is using, and it works fine. Faster than my 21Mbps HTC One X on Go Phone.

scotte9999 said:
Yes, "H+" (aka 42Mbps 3G) works fine on the Relay with AT&T Go Phone. It's what my wife is using, and it works fine. Faster than my 21Mbps HTC One X on Go Phone.
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LOL :laugh: Ebay, my friend. Cheap and new for less than $250. I'm buying myself one for Christmas, I urge you to do the same. :highfive:

EpicMikeNC said:
LOL :laugh: Ebay, my friend. Cheap and new for less than $250. I'm buying myself one for Christmas, I urge you to do the same. :highfive:
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Yeah, I bought my wife's for $140 as a manufacturer refurb.
No way do I want to swap my HOX for a Relay, just saying her 3G is markedly faster than mine.

scotte9999 said:
Yeah, I bought my wife's for $140 as a manufacturer refurb.
No way do I want to swap my HOX for a Relay, just saying her 3G is markedly faster than mine.
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lol alright cool, understood. Well I'm ready to go to the Relay 4G. Love my Epic but its time. GSM here I come.
And I see you're from San Diego. I was there briefly just to catch a plane, but I always wanted to go back to visit. If you live there and 3G on GoPhone works just fine, I should be good. :good:

[Q] Will the Verizon HTC ONE M8 works on AT&T?

Hi there,
I just got my verizon htc one m8 but I was wondering will this phone works with at&t sim card? Can I receive AT&T 4G LTE signals?
Any helps are welcomed.
Thanks in advance.

No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man

p2kmafia said:
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
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Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE

shojus said:
Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
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sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??

denpad2010 said:
sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.

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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.

shojus said:
HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.

zacwilliam said:
Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
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All in where ya live I guess and which provider you have. Sometimes my HSPA+ is quicker than my T-Mobile Lte...

I'm thinking about using an upgrade on a flip phone I have on Verizon to get this phone.
How hard would it be to get it to work on Straight Talk and since they use AT&T's network, would I be able to get HSPA+ too?
Thanks in advance!
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hspa and hspa+
hspa is 3g 850mhz 1.5mbps tops and hspa+ is "4g" 1900mhz 5-20mpbs tops which is really like a 3.9g theres a story behind this but im only answering the question which is which so pretty much this device is ready for either bands just check who's got those bands and you are ready to go ohh by the way no LTE if it isnt with verizon peace im out im batmaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Because Verizon’s 4G LTE devices use SIM cards, that means many of them (the global-ready ones, anyway) are compatible with the regular 3G/2G GSM bands used everywhere else in the world (no LTE, however). When traveling, simply pop in a prepaid SIM card, configure the APN settings with the network you’ll be using the phone on, and boom. You’re up and running on 3G. Same goes for AT&T in the US (again, no LTE because of incompatible bands).

It does get AT&T LTE, I have a GoPhone account with AT&T and get LTE with my M8. Only in some areas, get about 70% hspa, and LTE the rest, just depends on your location and the AT&T LTE bands used in your area, but the M8 does get LTE